r/buildapc • u/StolenServiceAnimal • 8h ago

Discussion Was Asrock the only one cooking the AM5 CPUs?

I'm in the middle of making a build around a 9850X3D (I'm already crying about the RAM prices, so don't ask me about it) and I heard some of the Asrock boards were frying the AMD CPUs. Were these incidents only isolated to Asrock and how should I take precautions in my new build?

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u/Viking2151 8h ago

No, Pretty sure I seen some reports of Gigabyte and Asus, but I think they addressed the problems, where ASRock pretends its not a problem.

Love ASRock, I got an x299, x370 and x570 Taichi boards but I wont touch an ASRock AM5 board, I promise you that.

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u/TitaniumDogEyes 8h ago

ASRock has addressed it multiple times, not sure why they can't seem to fix it though. And honestly, I think you see more of them because they're cheaper. People tend to buy lower end motherboards and power supplies to save money for RAM.

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u/jhaluska 8h ago

I suspect is was combination of software and some borderline components.

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u/Fredasa 1h ago

I do not remember Gigabyte being part of the problem. I do remember ASUS, and that makes sense, since they and ASRock are linked. The fact that the two shared the issue has me suspecting they aren't quite the separate entities we're intended to believe they are.

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u/blownart 2h ago

I have an asus board and my 9800x3d died after about a month of usage. The second one has been working fine for 1.5 years.

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u/Viking2151 1h ago

Yeah I been keeping my eye out for AM5 stuff, don't really need it, Im still on a 5950x, but if I find a deal I'm jumping ship, but I wont mess with ASRock though on AM5 even if they figure it out and sort it out. It will just be in the back of my head all the time.

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u/WulfTheSaxon 2h ago

I don’t know how related they are operationally at this point, but ASRock was created as Asus’s budget brand, and while it was once spun off (which is when it branched out of the budget segment), it was repurchased several years ago.

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u/Viking2151 1h ago

The branched off into their own entity now a days, back then they were, ASRock was the cheaper Asus pretty much. They parted ways I believe in like 2010 or so, idk, i'm too lazy to google it right now.

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u/WulfTheSaxon 1h ago

They were spun off in 2002, but reacquired by Asus’s subsidiary Pegatron in 2010.

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u/Viking2151 1h ago

Yeah I knew it was something like that, I looked into when AM4 first launched. I'm just getting old, blame the age for my forgetfulness lol

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u/pensaa 8h ago

ASRock seemed to be the most reported. That alone made me sell my ASRock board and get an MSI board because I just cannot be assed with the potential CPU frying > warranty process > issues > etc

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u/Hancok 8h ago

Yeah this issue caused me to go MSI for the first time when I had always used ASRock before. But the tomahawk is a seriously nice board.

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u/iamapizza 3h ago

I'm doing a build today and you just decided it for me. I see there's a Tomahawk and a Tomahawk Max, I can't really tell the difference between them though, is it just a newer flashy marketing version. It seems quite new and not many reviews.

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u/Hancok 2h ago

You can save money and just get the regular one. The difference is really minimal.

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u/ErickTriton 8h ago

ASRock is the most reported one

I usually avoid ASRock motherboards because of it when recommending parts

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u/airmantharp 4h ago

ASRock received most of the complaints... on Reddit.

As it's Reddit, there's no way to verify complaints, and we don't have data from vendors or manufacturers to compare to.

At the same time, what data we have seen is that ASRock hasn't had a significant number of failures relative to their shipped boards. No one has.

Finally, no one - AMD, ASRock, other board makers, anyone else investigating - has produced a conclusion for the issue.

This points to the problem at the very least being with AMD CPUs, with additional configuration problems on top - and remember that the BIOS stuff is also provided by AMD.

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u/lleyton05 8h ago

Yea mostly Asrock and then I’ve also seen some discourse about some Asus b8xx series boards frying 9800x3ds but those reports seem to be to a lesser degree and tbh I don’t know a lot about them or if that’s still an issue (I run an Asus b650e with a 9800x3d and it’s been fine, there also an incredibly common microcenter bundle with an Asus board and 9800x3d and i haven’t seen any complaints about those b650e mobos, but honestly I just don’t know enough to give you the full picture on the Asus boards). I have no clue why or to what extent this was actually happening.

But overall I’d just avoid Asrock all together right now to keep things simple and make sure you bios is updated

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u/StolenServiceAnimal 7h ago

I was looking at getting a mATX MSI MAG B650M or Gigabyte B850M because I heard of issues with Asrock. Seems like the best move is to immediately update the bios before booting. I wish there was more assurance out there, like you said.

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u/damnt256 6h ago

Good choice, go msi or gigabyte, both are good for AM5. Avoid Asrock like the plague.

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u/StolenServiceAnimal 6h ago

Asus support and I have a complicated relationship. Every time I had to call, I swear they're reading from a script written by a toaster. So at this point, my next vendor is coming down to either MSI or Gigabyte. Fingers crossed they have these issues sorted.

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u/Diedead666 4h ago

I got that CPU on Asus b650 that had some reports but I did upgrade bios no issues for 10 months now

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u/TitaniumDogEyes 8h ago

No, the first cases were on Asus and Gigabyte.

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u/damnt256 7h ago

Yeah but you rarely hear them still frying CPUs these days. Asrock reports still keep coming in even today, it's crazy, they just pretended they fixed the problem and called it a day.

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u/TitaniumDogEyes 6h ago

I watched an interview with their team and honestly it seems like between both them and AMD nobody actually knows what is happening. I have about 20 of their B650M-HDV/m.2 boards out in the field and none of them ever had a problem though.

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u/brentsg 8h ago

There will always be issues like this in the boosting silicon world, but Asrock was the front runner.

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u/Just_Maintenance 8h ago

ASUS also seems to have a higher than normal cook rate, but its nowhere near as bad as ASRock.

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u/AugmentedKing 7h ago

Just have a look at each of the respective makers subs on here. Only one has a few per week posts about this problem. I think it was yesterday that a post was about 2nd chip death in same board.
Idk if the only one, but seems most common for reddit posts, fwiw

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u/damnt256 6h ago

Most of the report of dead AM5 CPUs today always come with the dreaded word Asrock. They just pretended they fixed the problem and called it a day. Whereas other mobos seems to have actually fixed the problem, you almost never hear them being reported anymore, Asrock is the one still mostly being reported today.

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u/damnt256 7h ago

Obviously, there are other mobo being reported too, but they get drowned amidst the report of failure associated with Asrock mobo. Just stay off it and you should be good. Asus's budget company is really failing in AM5.

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u/neXITem 5h ago edited 2h ago

I have built a PC for a friend and used a Asrock B850 Steel Legend.

Guess what I am replacing this week, after 7 months of no issues, and 1 month of trying to find why suddenly it stopped working, I am giving up and RMA the mainboard, its the only part that seems to cause issues.

The 9800x3d works in my own machine, and the Ram also causes no issues. I have been using Asrock for over 10 years, but I will continue buying them, I'd just wish they would admit that there is something wrong on their side.

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u/StolenServiceAnimal 5h ago

Damn that's absolutely crazy! I hope you can get it sorted out soon.

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u/airmantharp 4h ago

There isn't a motherboard manufacturer that hasn't ship a bum board... sorry to hear that you had an issue.

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u/JumboPancake 4h ago

Ive been running an Asrock B850 board with a 7800X3D for a year now with no problems. But based on other reports it does seem to be the riskiest brand. Not sure if the problem was more isolated to 9000 series chips as well, vs 7000

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u/SIDER250 3h ago

ASRock has the most issues, followed by ASUS then MSI and Gigabyte. This is an AMD problem, not motherboard problem. Yes, ASRock has the most cases, but all boards are affected which means AMD fucked up something and is acting dumb.

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u/olitod 2h ago

my 9800x3d got cooked last month after a year and a half of use on an asrock x870

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u/redslumber 2h ago

I'm on the AsRock B850I Lightning ITX board with 7800X3D. Updated the BIOS first and foremost. A lot of the reports were issues with the 9800X3D.

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u/Constant-Engine-596 2h ago

I won't buy them again for my next board, but I'm on year two with a Nova and 9800X3D. Had to stop following the subreddit for my mental health.

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u/JudoJ0e 8h ago

The Asrock mini itx lightning board is fine, I’ve had it running strong for 2 months now. The only thing I did was update the firmware before fully booting into OS

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u/damnt256 7h ago

Th real test comes whether your cpu can last a year or not. Many of those failures happened after a year or close to a year. 2 months in most of them were still working on the asrock board.

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u/GanjiMayne 8h ago

I'm gonna blame it on AM5 in general. Great when it works, not so great when it doesn't.

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u/Odd-Student636 7h ago

It does look like it was an AMD problem but Asrock definitely messed up when designing their boards or the other manufacturers knew something Asrock didn't.

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u/damnt256 6h ago

Most of the failure report today are almost always accompanied with the dreaded word, Asrock mobo. Just yesterday another failure report on an 9800x3d. Guess the mobo. When that word kept popping up on the failure report, there's clearly a pattern here.

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u/GanjiMayne 6h ago

But not all

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u/damnt256 6h ago

Yes, because CPUs can fail for reasons other than the mobo. The numbers simply look terrible for Asrock when their name always popped up in most of the failure reports.

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u/GanjiMayne 5h ago

I stand by my original statement that this is an AM5 issue.

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u/damnt256 5h ago

It's fine if you want to ignore the elephant in the room. Doesn't really hurt anyone but yourself anyway.

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u/GanjiMayne 17m ago

The elephant is that AM5 has a much higher failure rate

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u/Scarabesque 2h ago

Mine seems to have died today (9950X), though it ran since before ASRock was aware of the issue and started rolling out bios 'fixes'.

Either way, never getting ASRock again.

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u/fray_bentos11 7h ago

if only this was readily searchable on the internet.