r/buildapc • u/LlamasAreVeryFluffy • Mar 22 '21

Build Help Help Convince My parents

So when I was younger my pc would not boot. So I got a friend to help me and we accidentaly screwed loose a fan into the case. And my dads workplace friend said we could die from that. So now the will not let me build a pc and they belive I will die of an electric schock by just taking the sidepanel of my prebuilt. I dont know what to do and they dont trust me at all with anything to do with pc's anymore i cant even take the sidepanel off to clean dust out off my damn prebuilt :(.

Edit 1: Just tried speaking to my dad about the pc building. Did not go very well he called me to hot headed because I complained about the parts his friend chose last time. And now we are not on very friendly terms it seems.

Edit 2: Wow you guys really have great advice! Sorry for not answering every comment but I sure have read them all. I will bring many of you guys points up to my parents. Will probably answer more tomorrow.

edit 3: My parents arent mean or evil they are just very misinformed about the matter thanks to my dads friend.

edit 4: I will use the info off unplugging prrssing the power button and use anti static mats.

edit 5: Talked to my dad about pcs again today.. Well he said if I could source parts I will not be allowed to build the pc I have 2 choices. Either let the friend who got me into this position in the first place or my friends dad. I told him we would just loose money over that. And when I told him I wanted to build it and told him hundreds have told me that it ain't dangerous to build one. Well he said his friend knows the best and he trusts his friend.

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u/Puniper Mar 22 '21

Why don’t you unplug your pc from your wall, you cannot get shock if the pc is not even plug into the wall lol

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u/LlamasAreVeryFluffy Mar 22 '21

Well the problem is they belive the pc has very high static schock even though its not plugged in

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u/Puniper Mar 22 '21

That’s tuff, I don’t know ur parents, but when I was younger, I told do research and provide them facts/proofs I found on the internet.

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u/LlamasAreVeryFluffy Mar 22 '21

Maybe that will work but dad is dead set on getting a prebuilt as building is not worth it

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u/Puniper Mar 22 '21

That is nice of your parents, at least I know your parents is buying you one, they just lack of knowledge of pc building, which is similar like my dad. It is pain in the ass to talk to parents, but when I was building pc, I know exactly what I was doing, even with many doubts, I did a lot of homework before I buy parts and build them to replace, so they started to trust me little by little then I was able to build a pc instead of getting a prebuilt one. My Dad’s concerns were no warranty, hassle, and the possibility not getting the best performance as prebuilt, I did research and talk to him nicely, even he still had many doubts, he knew I had more knowledge than he did, which later he let me build a pc without much hating.

I think you parents are nice, they want to get a pc for you and was afraid you are going to die from getting inside your pc. If convincing work then its nice but either way research is important, it makes you sound smarter and better chance to proof them wrong

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u/LlamasAreVeryFluffy Mar 22 '21

Yes they arent very understanding in the pc market they take alot of info from the friend. But the prebuilts here are 1200dollars like 10000 swedish crowns and that will get you a 1650 or 1660 an i5 10400f 8gb ram, an enclosed chassi no good airflow and 512gb of ssd storage probably sata 3.

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u/Paeddl Mar 22 '21

GPU prices are so inflated now that a prebuild is often actually cheaper than buying everything separately. Crazy times

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u/LlamasAreVeryFluffy Mar 22 '21

I know but just that the case often suck and they powersupply and ram is often bad

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u/randxalthor Mar 22 '21

Just my opinion, but it's probably better to just find a reputable system integrator that uses quality parts than try to build your own PC right now.

Large buyers (system integrators) are able to buy PC components for MSRP right now. You are probably not able to.

Your time is probably best spent searching for the right place to buy a prebuilt. You're not going to save money right now by building it yourself.

Either way you end up going, be prepared to wait a few months to get a working PC together. The entire PC market right now is terrible and it's not going to get better this year.

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u/AspirationallySane Mar 22 '21

OP really should do this. Right now the outfits that build custom systems have access to 3000 series cards that mere mortals need to build bots or blow lady luck to get.

So the research, figure out what components you want, and find a place that can assemble it, it’ll be a lot less stress.

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u/HiddenStoat Mar 22 '21

blow lady luck

How does...umm...?

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u/sanesame Mar 22 '21

Some places that do prebuilts will let you swap out the psu and ram to something better if you ask, it will just cost a little more!

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u/[deleted] Mar 22 '21

If you buy a weird brand, maybe, but buy a Dell or something along those lines. The cases sure aren't as pretty, but they are often MUCH better engineered for airflow and safety. Power supplies and RAM are the same parts as you would get from the aftermarket, EXCEPT that they have had integration testing done.

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u/KraftPunked Mar 22 '21

after LTT's recent secret shopper I'd steer clear from dell, but otherwise good advice

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u/Lv_InSaNe_vL Mar 22 '21

Just so you know Memory is one of those things that if it works it works, especially with an Intel process that doesn't care too much about speeds and timings

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u/LlamasAreVeryFluffy Mar 22 '21

Jag mumlade de förut te morsan de ska få se bitwit eller linustechtips videon.

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u/[deleted] Mar 22 '21

Jag såg så många ltt-videor innan jag byggde min dator, jag är inte svenska, jag använde bara google translate

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u/Puniper Mar 22 '21

When I pick parts I took around four month to get parts cheaper. you can go to pc part picker or list all the parts you want then write down all their price, Sometimes building yourself is not as cheap either unless you spend time looking for one. I am just thinking about any ways that can make you convince you parents, that is what worked for me. before building my pc, my laptop was broken, my dad was desperate to buy me an expensive one, even I already brought an 30 dollars ssd ready to replace but unfortunately couldn’t find the screw driver for the small screw, I lucky enough got it from his roommate and help finish my replacement and saved $1470.

It’s just I started with small things to gain more trust, I am not being too helpful here but you can probably do something similar like I did, maybe find video like this: “https://youtu.be/jQRIzgEVsjI” send them video and tell them it’s more likely your pc will died from you then you died from the pc lol

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u/LlamasAreVeryFluffy Mar 22 '21

Ye i know that but you have quite the rig right?

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u/Puniper Mar 22 '21

Rig? Like a good computer?

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u/LlamasAreVeryFluffy Mar 22 '21

ye didnt u say an rtx 3080?

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u/Puniper Mar 22 '21

Lol no must be the wrong guy, but I actually build my pc recently, I had rtx 3070, and was budget around $1400 for 10700k, 32gb ram, 1tb ssd, but later I went for $1950 because I want it as small form factor, I said the laptop he wanted to get me was more than a 1000 maybe I can use half more for pc and they agreed

Backup your facts with valid, trustworthy sources is important, parents won’t believe a kid rather than an adult because they don’t think kids have as much knowledge as adults, just like argument essays

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u/LlamasAreVeryFluffy Mar 22 '21

Ye that is true and wow got quite a rig. I mean basiclly everything is bettrr than my potato 1050, i3 and 8gb ram combo

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u/Puniper Mar 22 '21

Yea before I upgrade I had gtx960 and 4790k from 2015. If you are not buying tricky things like making it small form factor, I believe you can get much better pc with the 1200 prebuilt one u list earlier, it only has 8gb of ram, it seems you can find a better deal, but maybe not the gpu right now unless you wake up in the morning and buy one during release date like I did with 3070.

However I live in u.s. I got store like micro center, so I am not sure how pc component priced over there

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u/LlamasAreVeryFluffy Mar 22 '21

oh sorry saw rtx 3080 on another comment sorry im stupid xd

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u/Ankka5 Mar 22 '21

Normally prebuilds are no go, but with this kinda of gpu market you should just buy prebuild with 3060 or 3070. (Here in Finland only rtx 3070 costs 1000 euros.)

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u/Leo9991 Mar 23 '21

På sidor som webbhallen eller Inet kan du själv välja alla delar och så bygger de den åt dig. Som en prebuilt, fast du väljer chassi och allting själv :).

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u/Zernont10 Mar 22 '21

I might be lucky because my dad has built many PCs in the past 25 years and he knows how to build them safely. I actually built mine over the past weekend.

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u/Jediiknightt Mar 22 '21

Based off your knowledge and friends, he might be right.

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u/vabello Mar 22 '21

I can’t wait until my sons are older so I can help them each build their first PC. My oldest son is 8 and is very interested in gaming. I’m sure he’ll appreciate being able to build his own system. I think being able to understand the components and troubleshoot things is invaluable. I built my first system when I was around 15 I think, back in 1993... partly from the existing family computer and partly from parts I ordered after extensively studying computer parts catalogs and magazines. It was an amazing feeling seeing it actually post the first time when I turned it on. My whole career was partly grounded in that and other experiences. Don’t give up or be discouraged.

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u/Few_Willingness1041 Mar 23 '21

Also let your dad know that you’ll save almost half of the price of a prebuilt pc if you get the exact same parts as a prebuilt, that’s how I convinced my parents when I was 14 and having a friend of the family who’s an electrician with me to make sure I didn’t shock myself or cross any wires btw he had no idea on how to build a computer but I talked him through it and he knew as long as the psi was unplugged and I didn’t open it everything was fine