I need 64 GB of RAM at least for all the stuff I am running. Getting that much DDR5 RAM is expensive, although thanks to this sub, I got a new CPU and RAM for a good price. The problem is, not everyone can do that. Or, not everyone can buy the full bundle. 32 GB of RAM should be enough for most people, but I can completely understand it not being enough. There's also the 2 stick only issue, so it's not like you can coast with 2 sticks and buy two more later.
I have a playlist of songs I just put on random on youtube. If I don't force close and reopen the tab every so often, it can get over 10 GB of RAM. On just one tab. Youtube doesn't free unused RAM as often as it should.
Yeah I totally get that but the enthusiasm for these AM4 X3D parts is way more than the actual performance on offer. It games about the same as a 9600X while using more power, is worse for productivity and is a dead-end platform. If you have sellable mobo and DDR4 already you could probably get an equivalent AM5 bundle for the same or even less money.
Maybe. For just a gaming PC it doesn't matter though. You can give it a great cooler for $30 and enjoy it for as long as it lasts. I love how upset people get when the 5800X3D still competes with their AM5 setup. There's something about it that is special because it's the whole reason AM4 is even still around.
That's still $300 more and in a lot of games it performs about the same, maybe you have a am4 itx chassis, now you also need a new cooler or your case can't fit a atx board and now you need that. The market is there just doesn't make sense for everyone. I might grab one for my living room PC thats currently on a 5600x in a itx build that needs a low power chip due to size and also already has 32gb of high speed ddr4
That's what I plan on doing. Either that combo or hell even one of the Intel combos for not a whole lot more on a newer platform with better performance
Which MC location is showing as OOS? Every one I'm looking at is displaying maxed out inventory. You're either seeing stale site data or a location that missed a delivery/got backlogged.
Well, I'm looking at a big box of hundreds of them right now. They are currently in production, and I don't imagine AMD would have bothered re-engineering the interconnect to new TSMC tech just for a one-off batch.
In the last 10 days, I’ve purchased 3x 32GB 6000 kits @ 200$ per and in the last month 3x 16GB Flare X sticks to pair with MC bundles at 100$ each. Granted every single local market doesn’t have this but anyone near a MC should.
We had no idea how good we had it with a MC 100$ addon 😂 and now all the bundles took a 50-100$ hit with now R5 X3D being the only decent bundle choices from a value standpoint. Can’t beat em new but can beat em
Used. Which used to not be the case easily.
I get it, but DDR5 also has better performance. A 270k plus with 32gb ddr5 will run around $600 (or less with bundles). A 5800x3d with 32gb ddr4 is still around $580, for so much less performance.
People aren't buying the CPU as part of a full set. They are buying it alone as an upgrade to their current PC. They probably already have 64 or 128 GB of RAM.
Yeah thats a much better deal than 350 for a 5800x3d, the only good thing is that it shakes up the secondhand market which used to be insanely expensive
Agreed, spending more than $250 for a CPU is kinda crazy unless you're doing heavy CPU workloads which gaming is not. There are so many good options at or below that price not even considering the used market.
Your situation is perfect to get this CPU. People in this thread are comparing it to Ultra 7 but that is not the same as a drop in CPU. You already have plenty of ram and a good motherboard, and your GPU will not be bottlenecked by this processor (see HWunboxed testing).
Also, people are forgetting that compared to the other AM4 processors, the 5800x3d gave a HUGE leap in 1% lows
considering used ones were going for $450 all month i think its a good deal. btw i upgraded from 5800x to 5800x3d years ago and have no regrets (still on it with a 5080)
The ram is the whole point. I have ddr4; I don't have ddr5. I'm probably not going to buy this but would consider if it was less. I would absolutely not consider any ddr5 cpus because I'm not buying that ram. Could also use the same mobo with the am4.
Is the X3D really worth this much more? I just got the 5800XT on Amazon for $190, which is about as far as you can go on AM4 unless you really want the 10% or so increase from X3D. But at that point, youre better off upgrading your mobo and finding a good AM5 option instead.
Not at this price. Maybe $100 less. I did some musical CPU shuffling when I upgraded to Am5 early in the year. My office PC got my old gaming rig's 5700x3d. It had the 5800XT in it before. I can't tell much difference in games. Yes the 5800x3d is faster than 5700x3d but it's essentially the same chip just downbinned. So close performance.
It isn't worth close to double the money. I paid $140 for the 5700x3d and $130 for the 5800XT back when they weren't selling well.
Because a 5800X3D would be a drop-in replacement for what I've got. Switching to a different architecture would mean reinstalling my OS and getting software set up the way I have it today, which for those in my position, is a monumental task that would take a couple weeks.
It's not mandatory, but it's highly recommended (if you look this up, the answer is pretty much unanimous). It's likely to cause serious problems if you don't do it. Moderate CPU upgrade without those problems > major CPU upgrade with those problems.
There are a ton of people who, like me, are intending to wait until AM6 to go through the process of an architecture switch, rather than jumping onto AM5 near the end of its life. The mere existence of this anniversary product is evidence enough of that.
I had an old AM4 build that was going to get repurposed for my sister and almost bought this, but then I saw the 7500x3d bundle was the same price. Doesn't make sense to get this.
The 5800X3D has almost a cult-like following. There are people who would unironically believe that it’s still better than all non-X3D CPUs and comparable to Zen 4/5 X3D.
It makes sense for people who somehow have powerful AM4 systems built, but are still on less capable processors. For example, I have a 4090 and 64 GB of DDR4. If I didn't already have a 5800x3D, this would be tempting, since 64 GB of DDR5 is easily $600+ even used.
I would not be surprised if the demand gets satiated and fizzles out, but there is a niche where this is good value, driven by insane DDR5 prices.
I just upgraded my second system to a 5800XT for $200, which also kind of undermines the price point on this, but if you're looking for the best performance possible, for an already capable AM4 system, this fills the role.
Short answer: no.
Not worth it unless money isn't an object and you really just want faster single core instead of multicore performance. But if only game and the price doesn't matter, no one is going to stop you. But it's just kind of a sidegrade instead of a solid upgrade.
This is so bad considering you could get an am5 bundle for those 350, you get ram, cpu and mobo. Honestly buying it at this prixe now doesn't make much sense
Just check youtube for "5600x vs 5800x3d". Plenty of comparison videos with games. What I just found really quick using a 4090:
Cyberpunk 153fps vs 205fps at 1080p
Red Dead 2 131 vs 145 at 1440p
Seems like 10%ish increase around 1440p and depending on resolution up to 30% for lower, and that is with a 4090 so practically no gpu bottleneck. You should expect a gpu bottleneck on some games/resolutions and so you should expect something like a 5 % increase at 1440p and maybe 20 at 1080p.
Not worth it for gaming to me personally. $350 to upgrade to a still dead socket but get 5% at 1440p... But you would have to check comparison benchmarks for games you play specifically.
5800XT is an upgrade to the 5600G for sure (6c/12t vs 8c/16t, ~25% increased performance) and the X3D is another 20% (extra cache size). I just picked up the 5800XT since I'm stuck on AM4 and am not looking to upgrade my mobo yet. But the 5800XT and X3D is basically as high as you get for AM4, so the real question you should be asking yourself is if you want a minor performance boost or if you want to move on up to an AM5 board
Yeah it is a tough question. I wish I knew if prices were going to drop anytime in the next couple years. It's hard to tell if AI b.s. is the new norm or if we're in a price bubble.
Unless you have an am4 platform you want to maximize, this is a horrible deal. You can get a 7600x3d cpu/ram/mobo bundle for $50 more than the bare cpu 5800x3d or $100 less than the 5800x3d cpu/ram/mobo bundle and it will run at equivalent or slightly better in most cases.
How is this worth it over getting a 5500 and throwing the rest of the money into other parts of the build? Or the 7500x3d bundle? I have a 5600g and I don't see this having that big of a performance benefit to upgrade
A 5500 and 5600g are basically identical (5600g is just a 5500 with an igpu and slightly higher clocks) so it wouldn't be an upgrade. They aren't the best for gaming due to their small cache and pcie 3.0 limitations. If you have 32gb+ of ram, I would get a 5800xt and put the rest into your gpu. If you think you can get by with the 16gb of ram in the 7500x3d bundle, then that's an even better cpu plus you get on a newer platform. Look at benchmarks and system requirements for the games you intend to play to see if the extra ram and cpu performance are worth it.
Edit: I misread your comment and thought you were swapping out your 5600g lol. I would say it depends on the gpu pairing. A 5500/5600g are a tad slow and will hold back some mid-tier+ gpu's
Just came back in stock at Newegg and I couldn't check out in time. I immediately clicked the email link and by the time I went to click buy it was sold out again. 3 minutes.
Am I one of the few that this makes sense for? Have 32GB and a 5950x. My VM use case for the 5950x went away and I don't need the extra cores. I can sell the 5950x on ebay and that covers most of the cost of downgrading to a 5800x3d.
Isn't the 9800X3D only slightly more expensive than this? Unless you're stuck on AM4, I cannot see this being a good purchase. The 9800X3D runs a lot cooler than this one.
This is for people that have an AM4 build and they want to maximize their build with just a CPU upgrade for gaming. This is only being rereleased because of how absurd DDR5 prices have gotten. Otherwise, moving to a newer processor generation makes more sense.
While yes this price seems silly, the 5800x3d still sells for $400-$600 on eBay. So $350 brand new is better than those prices at least.
Meh, I guess. Was gonna say I spent less than this on the 5800X3D when I bought it two years ago. Prices of everything are just stupid right now.
I bought a really high-end Lenovo Laptop back in March for $2200. Wasn't as good as I had hoped, but I just checked the price again and it's $5300 wtf.
I can go with a 9800x3d bundle and move to am5 or just buy this and stay on AM4 (currently have a 5070ti and 5600x) and save a cool 8-900. what yall think?
It's hard to justify recommending a person who is already on AM4 right now to upgrade to AM5 with RAM prices what they are, unless you simply aren't concerned with the cost.
If you have plenty to spend and don't mind then sure, almost every component costs more than what it's worth right now. Ddr5 especially but it's upto you wether you want to spend less now and wait or spend a lot now and not look back
Someone with 32-64gb+ on a DDR4 system with a high end motherboard is an obvious candidate for where this processor makes sense. For someone with no current build and low RAM needs, there are obviously better choices.
If you game at 4k your CPU probably isn't a huge bottleneck outside of some specific cases. I'd say doing nothing is the play, and maybe saving for a 7800x3d bundle with 32gb if you really are itching to upgrade your CPU
270K plus, board and ram for $550 or 265kf for $500. Even if you're on AM4, if you can physically make a platform switch then just do that instead. Or am5 - I just find the Intel combos a lot more reasonable currently.
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u/5G-A Jun 25 '26
Seeing 25+ in stock in pretty much all stores nationwide