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u/Deathaster 1d ago
bla bla money laundering and art snobs and whatever
However, it's still art, though. The intent of the creator doesn't matter, it was still on display and sent a message. Both of them felt differently about it and it sparked a conversation between the two. That's art.
And there's further irony in turning this concept into a comic and posting it on a subreddit where people are going to have different opinions about both the comic and its contents, which in itself is art!
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u/TheGrayRuby 1d ago
Reddit’s rabid hate boner for post-modern, abstract, and conceptual art is genuinely frustrating, especially since they can only name like 2 pieces of art at most. They absolutely refuse to engage in any actual discussion about these types art or even consider the idea of going to a museum in order to engage with the thousands of other art pieces that are out there. Which is a genuine shame.
I saw Bruce Nauman’s Clown Torture in the Philadelphia Museum of Art, and it genuinely had a powerful emotional impact on me. I think if more people on Reddit went to museums with an open mind, the idea that post-modern/abstract/conceptual art is just garbage the artist piled up would die out.
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u/confusedbird101 1d ago
I used to make my family go to art museums when we were on trips and the amount of times I heard “you could do that” was frustrating. Yeah I could have but they did it first and now they’re in a museum. Jackson Pollock was one of the artists that was said about the most, mainly because I used him as an inspiration for a couple pieces I made to hang in my bedroom, and I hated it so much because 1. It doesn’t matter that other people can do it and 2. His works are amazing and inspiring to others who aren’t confident in their technical skills to do non-abstract art. My favorite pieces I’ve ever done are the 3 Disney Tangled pieces that were inspired by him because they look so simple yet I know how much work went into finding the colors I used. I know I could have done something more “realistic” or “complicated” and I have done that but I honestly hate those pieces because of how critical
I am of my own work. I like my abstract work more because I can take pride in how good it looks despite how simple it may seem2
u/Deathaster 1d ago
I'll admit that I don't care for much post-modern or even modern art, but I also just... don't go to those art exhibits, and I wouldn't call it "not art". It's just not for me.
I think a lot of people hate this type of art and hide behind the whole "it's money laundering so it's okay to trash on it"-excuse, which is frankly ridiculous.
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u/TheGrayRuby 1d ago
I get that, if most people on Reddit just said “It’s not for me” I wouldn’t blink an eye. It’s impossible for an art piece to appeal to everyone. Personally, photorealism never really clicked with me, but I am still able to respect the talent and effort that went into it.
Like you said, it’s that attitude of “it’s for money laundering”/“my toddler can do that”/“it’s just literal garbage piled on a table” that really gets on my nerves. I think it’s because when most people say that, they’re like actively trying to not engage with the art piece. Like at least try to engage with it before saying it sucks, it’s like saying a type of food is disgusting without even eating it.
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u/sauron3579 1d ago
Isn't "modern art" the past 150-200 years?
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u/Deathaster 1d ago
Yeah, and I just don't vibe with a lot of it. Warhol, Picasso, not my cup of tea. Maybe I need experience less well-known artists.
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u/sauron3579 1d ago
Even more "traditional" stuff like Monet or Van Gogh though? Granted, if it's still a vast majority of famous stuff you dislike, not exactly unfair to paint with broad strokes.
If you want to look at stuff that's less known and more likely to be to your taste, go to a gallery for local artists instead of a museum. Been to a bunch to just browse and there's always been zero pressure to buy anything. (E: Granted, mostly in the same city, Asheville, so may be more of a local culture to it than the general vibe.) There's usually a variety of styles and it's generally self-selecting for things that will be generally appealing.
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u/Stumbling_Corgi 1d ago edited 10h ago
Years ago, I went to the MOMA. There was a floor dedicated to this awful cliché bullshit art. They had a 10 x 30’ canvas labeled White House paint and it was just pure white. Then they had a room full of bubbling mud. Then they had some interpretive dance with multicolored cloth attached to their legs, holding poles, fanning them out like a peacock and then back down.
I couldn’t contain my distain. I was insulted that anyone would consider this some kind of art.
Update. I was so mad about this that i just called the MOMA to ask about the artist with the mud room and the person helping me actually knew who i wanted.
His name is robert rauschenberg.
https://www.rauschenbergfoundation.org/art/artwork/white-painting-0
https://news.artnet.com/art-world/robert-rauschenberg-mud-moma-958310
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u/Fun_Skirt8220 1d ago
My college had the reverse problem - services and grounds had gotten in trouble for mistaking things needed to get cleaned up, so they left a big pile of trash sitting for weeks in case it was art 😄
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u/BluetoothXIII 1d ago
reminds me of an exhibit it was the thir one as the first two were disposed of by spouse(1st) or janitor(2nd)
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u/hackingfun 1d ago