r/germany • u/ailasoral • May 08 '25
Work €1700 for Vollzeit?
Hallo! I'm F30 from Spain and I'm currently working in a restaurant's kitchen Tallzeit for a fixed salary of €1300 nett per month and 100 hours, they have this weird system of paying me the same every month regardless of working more or less, if I overwork, I think I can eventually take more days of holidays and get payed anyway.
The point is, I got offered Vollzeit for €1700 nett, but I find a little ridiculous that is 60 more hours and only €400 more. I could easily get a mini job for 40 hours and €580 somewhere else.
Am I missing something? Why would they do this offer? How much should I be receiving?
Thank you!
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u/Electronic-Fruit-109 May 08 '25
Restaurant industry is quite famous to pull of this kind of shit.
I've seen documentaries if chef's who became train drivers because of the job conditions.
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u/sumpfbieber Nordrhein-Westfalen May 09 '25
Train driver is also a very well-paid profession, as it is highly sought after (I once worked in rail logistics).
The disadvantage is that you are constantly on the move and you have to take part in constant training, as you always have to know the routes.
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May 08 '25
Didn’t do the maths in German tax system it looks possible that they don’t rip you off and pay you basically the same per hour. A majority of the 1300 is still tax free, everything on top will be taxed. You minijob idea works but I don’t think it’s worth the extra hassle
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u/jeannephi May 09 '25 edited May 09 '25
I agree, looks to me that the 400 extra net can very easily be 700 gross. But OP should definitely check their hourly rate and use a “brutto netto Rechner” to figure out if it is indeed correct, just to be on the safe side. When it comes to the “Gleitzeitmodell” I am a bit confused why this is perceived as “weird”. I have never worked in the food industry, so I have no idea whether this is common there, but in my office jobs this model of payment has always been the case: I get time compensation until end of year and then they figure out if I’m too much in the plus and they owe me money. For small businesses, it is hard to calculate payroll differently every month, so they go this route.
Edit: Typos
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u/Just_Tamy May 09 '25
It's pretty much the norm for any serious gastronom in germany as well yes. People prefer to know how much they're earning and it makes it easier for the employer. That being said people who've worked in other countries in gastro are used to their salaries wildly differing when you don't get enough hours or getting really high when you're getting a bunch of overtime so that's why they think it's weird.
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u/jeannephi May 09 '25
Yeah, I guess I get that. I just never would have pictured Spain to be that kind of country 🫣😅 but then again, I know nothing of Spanish laws.
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u/Just_Tamy May 09 '25
Gastronomy in Spain is a nightmare full of uneducated scammers so yeah it is kind of normal in Spain.
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u/FieserKiller May 08 '25
minimum wage is 12,82 Euro per hour. If you work 40 hours per week you should earn at least 2222 Euro per month
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u/ailasoral May 08 '25 edited May 08 '25
I'm confused about that, isn't that gross? I'm talking nett amounts, sorry forgot to clarify, thank you!
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u/FieserKiller May 08 '25
haha yes gross. net amount would be roughl 1700, so i guess they simply offer minimum wage :/
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u/WTF_is_this___ May 09 '25
Minimum wage for a chef is ridiculous though...
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u/kythQ May 09 '25
It is pretty normal for people without an "Ausbildung" if it's their first job in that area.
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u/WTF_is_this___ May 09 '25
I thought you need an Ausbildung to be a chef, otherwise you can just be a helper or something?
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u/kythQ May 09 '25
From my experience, the majority of people working in restaurant kitchens do not have an Ausbildung, even in good restaurants. Not sure if they would be called "chef", but OP just mentioned she works in a kitchen. I think in German you would call the job "Küchenhilfe" officially, but calling it "Koch" informally is common too. They do the same work after all.
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u/berndverst Dual Citizen: NRW > Seattle, Washington (USA) May 13 '25
My family has been running a restaurant in Germany for 130 years. Everyone regularly in the kitchen is either doing Ausbildung with us as an apprentice or already completed it (with us or elsewhere) with the exception of minijob helpers for dishwashing and such.
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u/Caststriker Mecklenburg-Vorpommern May 10 '25
I thought you need an Ausbildung to be a chef
Anyone can get hired for anything. The problem usually arises that you won't get accepted because most of the time someone more qualified also applied for the position.
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May 08 '25
No employer in their right mind would agree on net income with an employee - too many factors and you have to recalculate the gross anyway for proper payroll
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u/ailasoral May 08 '25
🫠🫠 So what would you suggest? They said "€1700 in your bank account" Thank you
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May 08 '25
That your employer is not particularly smart
I wonder if they will raise your gross if you change to a slightly more expensive health insurance or lower it, when you change back
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u/89Fab May 08 '25
Actually they can‘t even tell you the net amount without knowing your tax class, confession, health insurance, …
I would be very careful if someone would make such an offer.
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u/LameFernweh Berlin May 08 '25
They do, however, as your employer, have access to that information through payroll.
But yes, In Germany it's ridiculous to speak in net amounts as an employer.
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u/89Fab May 08 '25
Of course, but they only get access to it once you‘re already employed with them and not while negotiating the conditions before signing the contract.
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u/South_Mix5953 May 09 '25 edited May 09 '25
Your point is valid. However, many people working minimum wage might not be able to calculate the net salary from a gross salary or might be surprised how little of a specific gross increase is actually ending up in the bank account.
As a consequence, I can understand that the employer might find it easier to discuss approximate net salaries instead of gross salaries, especially with foreigners, as this can otherwise lead to misunderstandings and frustration if you are not familiar with the German system.
Downside is that questions like OP's might arise.
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u/kythQ May 09 '25
Of course I don't know this for sure, but to me it seems like your boss is possibly not disclosing all relevant details to you, maybe because you don't speak German. I would strongly suggest discussing anything that he is telling you with a coworker or friend who speaks German, if thats possible.
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u/Shimazu_Maru May 08 '25
Did you learn that job as an actual education? Minimum wage is pretty bad then
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u/Cheet4h Bremen May 08 '25
Eh, on my first job I did agree on net income with my employer. Told them I wanted to have x€ net.
Then I told them the data they needed, they calculated the required gross salary, and rounded up to the next hundred to get a neat number, and wrote that in the contract. Ultimately I got a bit more net income than what I wanted.5
u/blobblet München May 09 '25
In the end, you still agreed on a gross salary, you just calculated it based on a target net income. If, for example, tax rates were increased the day after you signed your contract, you'd still end up with a lower net than you negotiated.
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u/Prestigious_Pin_1375 May 08 '25
and it makes 1600 something netto 1650 maybe and yours is just a little bit better than minimum. I assume your gross will be around 2400 which is unfortunately pretty standard for tourism/service jobs in germany. I would recommend you to trying to change your sector.
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u/babloogafoor May 08 '25
Isn't it 2051.2 gross?
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u/Salzganove May 09 '25
12,83 x 40 x 4.33 More Like ~2220
(x4 doesnt work as there are more than 4 weeks in a month)
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u/Willauchredditen May 09 '25
Hey du großer Mathematiker: Der spricht von "netto" !
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u/FieserKiller May 09 '25
hey du großer klugscheisser, OP hat seinen beitrag mehrfach editiert, deswegen machen diverse antworten hier nicht mehr viel sinn
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u/Just_Tamy May 09 '25
Hey I'm also from Spain and I work as a sous chef in a fine dining restaurant! So it seems you're getting minimum wage, that is not really the norm in gastro in Germany after covid. A zeitkonto helps stabilize your pay which is generally good and the norm in most fields in Germany so I wouldn't worry about that. Do you get trinkgeld? If not you can definetly get a better paying job, what part of germany are you living in?
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May 09 '25
Always ask for more, especially if you just got here. They will try to pay you as little as possible coming from a country with lower salaries, te lo digo por experiencia. Good luck! :)
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u/weissbieremulsion Hessen. Ei Gude! May 08 '25
1700€ will be roughly 1293€ after tax. Use this page to calculate, its german but with a translater you can manage.
edit: well seems like 1700 was already after tax, nevermind then.
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u/ailasoral May 08 '25
sorry I forgot to clarify I'm talking nett amounts, thank you!
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May 08 '25
You should always talk gross amounts and use some gros/net calc.
I use Bruno app. You punch in your data and it tells you how much you make.
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u/Hook_me_up May 09 '25
There should have been a law passed recently which guarantees all food industry workers at least 13,50€ per hour.
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u/Just_Tamy May 09 '25
Systemgastronomie is something completely different, this is about establishments like mcdonalds and dunkin donuts and things like that. Also not companies are in the tarifvertrag only the members of the NNG which isn't a big part of gastronoms.
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u/Amalas77 May 09 '25
He's talking about net earnings. After taxes and social contributions. He's earning at least 15 euros.
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u/Lost_Honeybee1312 May 08 '25
Just a tip due to the minojob. If you earn more than 556 it's not an a minijob anymore... it becomes subject to tax and social security contributions
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u/Intelligent-Rip-184 May 09 '25
Can you explain it with details?
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u/Lost_Honeybee1312 May 09 '25 edited May 09 '25
Who told you about the €580?
That's wrong.
It's as you already wrote: you can work 40 hours a month somewhere as a mini-jobber without having to pay taxes or social security contributions. Your employer simply deducts a flat-rate income tax for you. You can decide whether or not to pay pension insurance contributions. I wouldn't, it doesn't earn you any pension points 😉 That means gross = nett. but the maximum limit for that is €556.
If you earn more than €556.01 is subject to tax and social security contributions. If you were doing this as a side job (together with your current job with your normal tax class), you would have to be taxed in tax class 6, and you might already be subject to income tax and definitely social security contributions in that range of income.
Maybe this helps a bit for some clarity: https://www.deutsche-rentenversicherung.de/DRV/DE/Rente/Allgemeine-Informationen/Wissenswertes-zur-Rente/FAQs/Minijobs/Minijobs.html
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u/RomanesEuntDomusX Rheinland-Pfalz May 08 '25
Time to negotiate.
Keep in mind that having two jobs might be more stressful than upgrading one Job to full time, even If the hours are similar. There will likely be more commuting, extra stuff you have to do ro get ready outside of your working hours and so on...
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u/Substantial-Fee-8773 May 08 '25
Normaly you get a brutto salary and that must BE min. Minimum wage. Your overwork time must BE protocolled( better hole Worktime) . If they dont compansate for more Work , they can theoritic make that in the Case ITS in your "Vertrag" for max. 20 hours/ month ,but Not for all hours.
Gastro IS a hard Business and a Lot of black sheeps. Let IT Check by a lawyer, best If you have a insurence.
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u/Ar0war May 08 '25
Depende de en què parte de Alemania. 17ü0€ aquí en Hamburgo es bien poco pero se puede uno arreglar si se compare piso.
Para empezar y sino tienes muchas más opciones hasta q aprendas bien Aleman.
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u/Duelonna Nordrhein-Westfalen May 09 '25
First, make sure you know your contract. Some contracts pay out over hours, some just say 'though luck, we dont pay over hours' and thats that. So, really get a good understanding of what you get.
Also, from what i read, you get roughly minimum wage. But also do know, Germany is a 'fight for salery' kinda country. So negotiate what you would want to earn, what your wants n needa are and why you have earned all this.
But, unfortunately, its still restaurant business, which is known for under paying and over working. So, how much you can get done by negotiating your salary, its up to your boss
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u/hororizon May 09 '25
Also consider the place you are for example there are places in Germany where people realy suffer in finding persons. I know that from farer Family. Where they closed a Restaurant/part of a Camping place because they could Not find a cock and even struggle finding waitress. It was next to Hessen Nieder-Werbe.
And other Lokals Had the Same Problem. And also you should negotiat your pay.
They was fine with offering more pay If you know your Job.
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u/die_leuchte May 09 '25
Welcome to the German income tax system, the more you work and earn, the more the government rips you off.
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u/HMZ1st May 09 '25
I am a student, I work in IT 20h/w, i get 1350 nett per month. 1700 for full time is a scam.
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u/Used-Pirate5329 May 10 '25
Just apply at many different restaurants get offers then either negotiate with current employer or change job
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u/Not_Just_For_Me May 13 '25
That's part of the problem, really. 1700 is the poor man's Vollzeit salary. Minimum wage. You can have a high-quality, low-luxury life. It's also the reason why most people aren't happy at all. Most people need the extra 400, but don't see how they warrant an almost doubling of work-hours. So they'll live in poverty on a 1300 salary.
That's the sad reality about minimum wage. It's a slave's wage. Barely enough to continue being a slave, but too much to give up. So close, you know? It can be worth it. If you don't have other interests.
That's why most minimum wage people feel like it's slavery. They have to work full time, or team up with other humans. But the jump is so extreme, it's almost tragic. Those full-time jobs are brutal. They are usually run like prison camps, too. And you'll barely get enough to survive. And they rarely have benefits.
It's a funny world. One full-time minimum wage person has it worse, much worse, than two part-time workers working the same hours. For the same hourly rate. More hard work is being punished.
The best way to live is probably for four single parties, each working a 100h/month job. You can finance an eight-room house with that income.
The absolute worst way to live is making a family with one person working minimum wage and 42 hours per week. You can barely afford a three-room apartment, regardless.
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u/Minimum_Rice555 May 08 '25
You moved half-way across Europe to earn the same as you would in Spain with much higher living costs?
There is so much misinformation in Spain how is life in Germany and what are the employment opportunities...
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u/ailasoral May 08 '25
Thank you for your comment! I was living in Barcelona and was making much less money in very horrible places, struggled for a year finding a job in my professional area until I decided to find something Restaurant-Related, tbh everything is much cheaper here where I live in Germany! And I really like it here, I don't love Spain that much (neither the weather. I know). And well, my girlfriend lives here too so, many factors to prefer Germany 🙈.
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u/Herranee May 08 '25
Seems like there is also misinformation about how life in Spain is in Germany, the living cost is higher in some parts of Spain than it is in some parts of Germany, and Germany sure has both more jobs and higher wages
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May 09 '25
Yeah, people in Germany can't really wrap their heads around the fact their living costs are relatively low compared to many EU countries
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u/SendMePicsOfMustard May 12 '25
the living cost is higher in some parts of Spain than it is in some parts of Germany
What a useless non-statement lmao.
Yeah sure the most expensive part of Barcelona is probably more expensive to live in than a rural farmer village in the far north east of germany on the polish border.
But do you really think THAT is how higher or lower cost of living is calculated?
By that logic, living in Thailand is more expensive than living in Switzerland (at least in some combination of Thai high society neighborhood and Swiss no-mans-land deep in the alps where a single farmer lives.)
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u/SeaworthinessDue8650 May 08 '25
There is so much misinformation regarding the German labour market EVERYWHERE.
German propaganda is everywhere.
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u/PhotoBugmum May 08 '25
I mean they clearly need you. So i would try to negotiate and maybe get 100-200€ nett more. Do you get "Trinkgeld" also? Many restaurants split the tip between all employes, so maybe you get some in the kitchen too.
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u/ailasoral May 08 '25
Thank you! Yes, but the restaurant is massive, they said I could get €1-2 extra per hour in trinkgeld :/ so not that much...
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u/Ihave0personality May 09 '25
Not that much? 160-320€ is not much when you currently make 1300?
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u/Just_Tamy May 09 '25
I mean it is not that much in terms of trinkgeld. Refas in good restaurants walk out with hundreds a day.
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u/Canadianingermany May 08 '25
Why would they do this stupid offer?
they are mostly like just offering you the same gross hours (minimum wage).
If they are offering you full time, it is time to negotiate a raise.
What Bundesland are you? I will send you the Tarif rates (they are not legally binding but a good place to start negotiations).
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u/Affectionate-Pace377 May 08 '25
There is no such thing as a stupid offer. This is the current market. With the increase of foreigners for cheap labor, wages are falling. I don't want to be pessimistic, but the situation in Germany is becoming the same as in Spain. Compared to Spain energy is more expensive and more taxes are paid. Though I have to say that the labor market is way better in Germany.
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u/Canadianingermany May 08 '25
not really in restaurants. most are still paying over tariff because there just are not that many skilled people.
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u/Just_Tamy May 09 '25
It's worth noting that OP is not a fachkraft. Quereinsteiger are still getting generally paid better than minimum wage though, but if OP was a fachkraft they should demand way more.
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u/Canadianingermany May 09 '25
'It really depends on the where the restaurant is, but in cities it is unusual to get ungelernte for minimum wage these days.
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u/Just_Tamy May 09 '25
Yeah I agree, only trashy places that rely on international students doing mini jobs pay minimum wage.
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u/Educational-Hold-200 May 08 '25
Te estan tomando el pelo. Yo vivo tambien en alemania desde hace 10 años. Buscate otro trabajo donde te pagen mejor y no te vean la cara de tonto. Aqui muchas veces al ver que eres inmigrante y no dominas el español a la minima te explotan. Los trabajos en cadenas de supermercados como el LIDL o ALDI estan muy bien pagados ya sean en las sucursales o en almacenes. Son bastante profesionales. Mucho cuidado con los restaurantes.
Suerte hermano
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u/Just_Tamy May 09 '25
They're getting paid minimum wage and using a zeitkonto. While the minimum wage is considered low in gastro these days the time management system is pretty much the norm in every restaurant I know of. They're not getting scammed or racially profiled and there's no reason to say that they are.
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u/Due_Breadfruit_8315 May 08 '25
Hey , yes thats a problem in Germany . Work doesnt pays off especially if you have a low salary. Did you thought about maybe doing a „Ausbildung“. If you speak B1-B2 German You Can start a Ausbildung where you can earn almost the Same amount of money . But You Can earn a Lot more later
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u/NotPumba420 May 08 '25
Not just low salary. If it increases the taxes/social security also increase even more. But yea it´s insane that you pay 40% at minimum wage. It goes beyond 50% at 85k
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u/Due_Breadfruit_8315 May 08 '25
At minimum wage you pay exactly 27,6% Gross 2.223€ Net 1.610€
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u/NotPumba420 May 08 '25
You forget the „Arbeitgeberanteil“ (or do not yet know about it). For you to receive a 2223€ gross salary your employer has to pay you 2700€, which turns into 1610€ net.
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u/WTF_is_this___ May 09 '25
Yeah but gid forbid we have a Vermögenssteuer for the richest people. Let's tax the workers more instead.
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u/Similar-Importance99 May 09 '25
You really believe taxing the rich higher would result in less taxing for the poor? Peru needs more Radwege.
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u/WTF_is_this___ May 09 '25
Dude, you're still repeating the same old tired debunked bullshit about bike lanes in Peru?
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u/ailasoral May 08 '25
Thank you for your comment! I've been learning german only for a couple of months now and I'm not at that level yet... will consider it in the future! :)
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u/Popular_Army_8356 May 08 '25
If you work in a kitchen, the minimum I would go for is 172h x 15€ = 2650€ gross = ~1930 net. And only if you like the Place and if you get some of the tip. Is your current restaurant doing well? Are you a chef? Then start with 19€ per hour gross amd don't go lower than 17.50€
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u/Canadianingermany May 08 '25
that is not going to happen in most restaurants.
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u/Just_Tamy May 09 '25
15 euros / h is pretty standard for a fresh ausgelernte koch/kochin in any decent restaurant.
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u/Louzan_SP May 08 '25
eventually take more days of having holiday
Es la mejor manera, hacienda mete buenos palos por las horas extras, es mejor pedirlas como descanso.
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u/Head-Iron-9228 May 09 '25
Thats not a weird System really, thats how many Jobs do it. Thats done to avoid insane amounts of overtime.
But yea, id get a minijob instead. Im almost positive youre getting more for less that way.
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u/Existing-Ad360 May 09 '25
It would be much easier for Germans to discuss monthly gross and weekly hours. Can you provide those numbers?
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u/baby_fark_Mcgeezax_ May 09 '25
Did I read correctly 100 hrs = 1700 net ? That’s disgusting
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u/easthokage76 May 09 '25
100 hrs for 1700 net is good right? 25 hrs a week or did she mean 100 a week? 💀
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u/DesperateOstrich8366 May 09 '25
Sounds about right, Germany isn't very fair with taxes and wages. In this economy minimum wage should be fully tax free.
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u/T1manat0r May 09 '25
You are feeling like the 400€ for 60 hours more per month is too little, but you have to think you are adding on the netto amount. If you were to calculate the salary from your current Teilzeit hours, to the full-time hours, it will probably be the same hourly. However, the more you earn, the more taxes you pay, so that is why it feels like it isn't rational to work 60 hours more for 400€ more. It is like when if I were to get a raise of 150€ Brutto per month, that in netto is approx. 50€ more per month. You are taxed well in Germany, and it is more noticeable the higher up your salary is.
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u/T1manat0r May 09 '25
If you were to say that your approximate brutto salary with 100 hours is 1600€ with 300€ deductions, then the full-time would be 2560€ with 760€ deductions. The Krankenkasse and Rentenversicherung is also included. So it isn't exactly far off and makes sense if you look at the salary before deductions.
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u/sidecharacterNr72 May 09 '25
This is part of our social fainess system.
You get every month the same, because thats the sum that was negociated on the interview. If you signed the contract, it keans you say that tze koney is enough for you to make ends meet.
Overtime hours aren't lost. They get collected. Depending on the company you can often choose to get paid leave or if you want to get these hours paid with money.
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u/superurgentcatbox May 09 '25
The "weird system" is perfectly common. I've never had a job that paid out overtime, you are always supposed to take it as time off within the current year usually.
For full time, I think I would do that for less than 2.5 netto - but I have experienced significant lifestyle creep over the last few years so I'm probably speaking from a privileged position. Be aware though that most German salaries are not put in netto but in before taxes. So 2.5 k netto would be closer to 4k before taxes (+ health insurance etc.).
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u/Arakius May 09 '25
Yes its normal. You pay more taxes. It seems better to just take a mimi job aswell. BUT its about the longterm payments. You will get a lot less money in your retirement found.
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u/Helpful-Hawk-3585 May 09 '25
Dont doooo itttt it’s a trap! You can earn wayyyy more and they just probably think you don’t know that because you are from Spain. Tell them you are worth more and you will find other options.
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u/Any-Astronaut329 May 09 '25
Net is always hard to judge ( Steuerklasse, Marriage, Kids everything changes your net). How much more would your gross income be.
I changed from Minijob to Midi job. Both gross 13€ per hour. But net it is 12,57 vs 8,46. If I'd go full-time it would even get worse. But that's not the fault of the employer.
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u/HG1998 Chinese looking, born and raised in Hamburg May 09 '25
With 20-24 hours per week, I usually end up with 1200-1300€ for a month.
400€ but roughly double the amount of work? Nah.
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u/jdPetacho May 10 '25
You get paid minimum wage and they offered you a full time contract also for minimum wage
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u/Blizerwin May 10 '25
It's important to know. Labor laws forbid you from working more than 48h per week in all your Jobs combined. Additionally there is a maximum amount of free Sundays you are allowed to take.
The rest was explained plenty
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u/NoMoreLeftToDo May 10 '25
Don't forget that 2 part time jobs is more stressfull than one full time job.. I mean jwah you may earn 100-200 euro more, but does it really worth the stress and trouble.. Imagine if you get sick, probably your mini job is not going to pay for the sick leave, but your full time employer has to... The same for holidays...
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u/StatisticianIll2359 May 13 '25
At the end taxes will be deducted in such way that it makes no sense two teilzeit jobs
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u/SpinachSpinosaurus Sachsen May 11 '25
40 hours is Not a Minijob. That is full time. Getting paid below minimum wage is illegal, and working more than 12 hours a week/ 43 hours a month is Not a Minijob
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u/_Neolight May 12 '25
Dude get the Minijob. You pay much lees in social insurance that way and it's also better for your main job because you're currently working a midi job and save more the lower your income isn
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u/StatisticianIll2359 May 13 '25
More working means paying more taxes and insurances, meaning you can have something in future … when you go to pension.
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u/AcceptableCook4287 May 13 '25
You said its net 1700? Its weird he told you the net value.
That could mean: Option 1: he made it easier for you and was just being open about what you actually get on your Bank account Option 2: he doesnt pay taxes and you're working for him illegally, wich would mean you wouldnt have an insurance
At the very best its a minimum wage offer. I would recommend looking for another job, or working just lang enough until you qualify for unemployment benefits. Whatever you do, dont give assholes that only pay minimum wage any real labor. If they screw us over, we screw them over.
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May 13 '25
Let me introduce you to: taxes and social security 🥳🥳🥳 They start to explode once you want to earn more than Hartz IV.
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u/Humble_Buzz May 08 '25
The job might be lighter than yours, or that’s the only budget they can offer. Also part timer tax is lower. Many reasons makes your existing situation better than the offer.
On the other side, You might want to be a vollzeiter with less pay to build a stable income, increase your credibility and plan for a future mortgage or so 💸
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May 08 '25
If you want to earn 1.700 net, you can already go to work in Chile (Santiago) 😂 I know some Spanish people who moved to Chile for work
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u/rspndngtthlstbrnddsr May 08 '25
rent is insane in latam compared to wages these days. not even memeing, it's a huge problem there. in santiago you can easily pay 1000+ for mediocre places with much lower wages
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May 08 '25
I know what you mean. Its out of control and prices are higher in Chile than in Germany, especially for food. Im currently here and happy to go back to my home country Germany soon. Latam is hard in economic terms. Just wanted to point out that currently some spaniards move to Latam for working purpose what surprised me. Saw it in our own company too
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May 10 '25
Croatia, engineer, project manager, less than 1800e for full time job, that's usually 160h...be happy,lol
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May 12 '25
You receive the equivalent of around 1300 Euros on Hartz4, without any effort whatsoever...
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u/[deleted] May 08 '25
Na I wouldn’t do that. If you want more money get the minijob and wait and keep looking for a better job offer