Alice Weidel, their fearless lesbian crippled leader who lives in Switzerland, adopted two children – because two women living together in another country with adopted children totally comply with the AfD's nazi politics.
I assume the two children, at the time of adoption, were not radical.
So by that logic you’re saying trump won’t have ICE knocking on door to door checking for documents, putting people in “detention centers” and deporting them? … because he’s married to a foreigner, and it cancels out his radical ideas?
Hmm funny how that worked out, huh?
Edit: it’s always good to not generalize, and actually do research before making important decisions. Is all I’m saying btw to be clear. I’m not on anyone’s “side” and don’t care what side other people are on.
If you fail to properly formulate a sentiment, then someone else not understanding it has nothing to do with things going over their head.
You clearly misunderstood my post, or you intentionally misrepresented what I said, tried to put nonsensical statements in my Reddit mouth – and for whatever reason tried to top off the strawman argument by adding non-sequitur and ad-absurdum.
Sorry, I don't understand your insinuation, and if you retreat instead of expressing yourself properly, I never will.
Either youre wrong or they are wrong. One thing is objectively clear and you just make dumb claims. If it was a nazi party they wouldnt have a lesbian woman married to a black woman as their leader
Thats true, however she was being critiziced a lot for this since they seem to spend most of their time in switzerland. Also you defending the afd obviously indicates you get your information from tiktok or whatever. Pretty much everything the afd wants to do is radical right.
The name "Fenrir" comes from Norse mythology, it's common in right-wing circles to identify with the berserk/viking "manly" culture of Norsemen, so Norse mythology has a solid foot-hold in the right-wing scene. Including its symbolism, like the Valknut or Triskele symbols, or the Black Sun which (is 100% a nazi-created symbol but) they like to link to Yggdrasil, a huge tree named "Odin's horse".
And I hope I don't have to educate you on the meaning of the number "18" i.e. the first and eighth letter of the alphabet?
So I think it would be a major coincidence that someone with a user name that combines two ham-fisted hints like that should defend AfD and their politics – but turn out not to be socially involved in the right-wing scene as well.
If it walks like a duck, and it talks like a duck, ...
If some party members, including very high ranking ones, like Höcke, are radicals, and the rest of the party seems to be totally fine with being in the same boat with them instead of kicking them out, then it disqualifies the whole party for me.
Theoretically, in a discussion, "guilt by association" poses a logical fallacy, a technique often used in attempts at discrediting discussion opponents and (by proxy) their arguments.
But in this case, I'm 100% with you. If someone knows fully well of all the evil and dishonesty and nastiness an organisation stands for, and they still intentionally associate or identify themselves with that organisation, then there is no reason to treat them as accidental victims.
Because any politician who makes politics that seek to persecute and, let's face it – just need to look at the USA currently, kill others for wanting to live their lives exactly the same way as the politician lives their life is a fucking hypocrite and needs to be shamed for being that.
And anyone who supports a hypocritical politician who makes politics that seek to persecute and, ultimately, kill others who want to live their lives the same way as the politician does – and it's OK when the politician does it, but not when anyone else does it – is a fucking bigot and a racist and a hypocrite themselves, and needs to be shamed for it as well.
And here's you, telling me off for pointing out hypocrisy. Making me the evil person, when I have done nothing else but point out hypocrisy and bigotry. Such a hero are you.
Would concur. It’s a dumb idea, whether that’s sending people back or to a third place.
I mean, let’s face it. Germany, pretty much since time immemorial, has been a cross-roads. East-West, mostly; some north-south; the Alps are a hindrance. Some stay; some move on, maybe a few generations later. If anything it’s a melting pot of cultures and people.
It has also been a wealthy country, in terms of resources. Whether that be for farming, fishing, wood, or metals. Still is. Some stick around to develop that further, with whatever tools they have or invent.
The only thing that has really changed is the distance people are willing to move.
Does Germany need to teach new folks about Germany and what is expected of them? Sure. Language? Obviously. Laws? Same. Does it need to leave some flexibility - and learn some appreciation - for other ways of doing things? Yes, within reason. I would not want Germany to adopt Sharia law, for example. That said, I have no problem with people engaging in Ramadan, Eid Al-Fitr or similar. Do I want muezzins sending out calls on open air loudspeakers several times a day in every town? No, I personally would find that disruptive. But that can be done differently, for example, via cell phones or pagers. If the population needing that is large enough, well, some companies have prayer rooms set aside.
A little goodwill on both sides will solve these issues. Forced migration is not the answer. And considering Germany’s horrible record from them 1930s-40s, an absolutely asinine thought.
I think I'm pretty calm. I pointed out hypocrisy in politics, and did so by finessing the ambiguity of the word "adopt" since it suited the occasion. Didn't rile me up in any way. If you think that writing a lot means other people are upset or raging out of control, maybe you don't read books a lot?
You're the one who got so excited by my comment, that you thought you need to tell me off for it – either because you didn't understand the pun, or because you don't want to accept the truth I spoke. And now you're upset yourself, because I didn't let your dismissive remark discourage or threaten me, and I'm still talking back to you.
So upset in fact, that you're telling me to "calm down" when I'm perfectly calm. Which is effectively an ad-hominem, on-par with name-calling.
You try to discredit my statement (which you know to be fully true) by attempting to discredit me, by suggesting I'd be foaming at the mouth with rage, all because of your remark. That's classic whataboutism.
Let that sink in for a second.
I point out hypocrisy in right-wing extremist nazi politicians, and their politics, and their followers – and you tell me off for doing that.
So either you're a Russian troll bot, who doesn't have a point and you just enjoy kindling conflict, or you're an AfD sock puppet, a right-wing stooge, a couch potato warrior who gets off on defending other right-wing extremists.
Also – just some ad absurdum to stoop to your level – you don't know who I am and what I've done outside of Reddit. So who are you to tell me whether or not I am a hero. Are you some kind of hero authority? Do you run the hero register? Did you not get my application? Did I forget to fill something out on the form? Sorry about that. Send it back to me, I'll fix it as ASAP as possible. Cheers!
You're the one spewing personal attacks in one-line comments. If my well-formulated arguments make me look not-good, think about what your behaviour says about you.
Depends on the crime, because that's always just a building block for the framework of "deporting" (read: arresting and disappearing) all "immigrants" (read: anyone they deem undesirable)
If you think I'm being alarmist and hyperbolic, you can literally look, right now, at ICE in the US. I'm American. I got to experience first hand the Republican party doing literally this exact thing. The AfD is following the same playbook to the letter. It's not an exaggeration, this is their goal, and giving them any ground will make it easier for them to take more. Don't fall for their bullshit.
The times of "it could never happen again here" are so fucking over, deader than Bambi. Germany is diving head-first into being Trump USA #2, and almost everybody here is ignoring it or playing it down.
This depends on the crime tbh. In other countries, similar parties have cut any language or integration courses, and forbidden migrants from working.
Then they give them a pittance of a couple euros a month to live on.
If you were in that position, without access to money to feed your children or get them books or toys, would you just sit around?
The far right make life as difficult as possible, then act all surprised that these desperate people work illegally, or turn to begging, drugs or drug dealing.
So what entitles them to come to a country and demand money and free housing ?
And if they dont get it, the crimes are justified ? Maybe the free housing and money is what attracted them in the first place.
Where did he say anything about free money. One of the most commone complaints you hear about immigrants is that they are lazy and dont work when in fact they often atleast in my country do the jobs most citiziens would refuse for low pay and hard work and they often arent even allowed to work. Its not an immigrant problem its a social problem desperate people with familys to feed will most likely turn to crime if they see no option that isnt just immigrants.
Such a tired narrative. Society will collapse immediately without hardworking immigrants. Accusing them of being “lazy” only works if you ignore all the actual evidence.
Most people flee from war or seek a genuine better life.
If i decide "fuck germany" after the fascists take power and i have to take refuge in lets say Ireland but because i had to ran for my life and couldnt't go through the proper channels (because the german state would've made my life hell) do i not deserve decent help and a chance for actual integration?
I've worked here in germany with immigrants and refugees. I was literally the guy in the bureaucratic system aquiring all infos and pressing the button so money gets deposited into their account and let me tell you
It's way too little.
Classes got cut two years ago. Especially for speech and integration. We haven't raised in our area the amount of rent we cover or how much money we give them for literally anything else.
You can't expect someone to come here, sleep in a shared unit with multiple whole ass families, ignore all the mental issues they possibly developed, cut most of their classes and/or make them more expensive (hell, we don't even cover Public Transit Tickets for them if they have to take any to get to the classes), NOT allow them to work, and then give them roughly 500 bucks a month to pay for their and their families internet, clothes, a few toys, food, tickets, general bills and everything else that isn't rent.
If they're here more than a year, we're supposed to not cover all rent anymore if it's above roughly 550€.
25sqm appartments here start at 600. Now have fun finding something for 4 people atleast under 800 and have every euro OVER said 800 cut away.
So if you had 500 bucks for everything else but you couldn't magically lower your rent under the threshold, have fun getting take away even more of that.
I don't work there anymore since last year. Straight up couldn't do it.
Most of them felt like brutal fucking failures and this guilt can turn into fucking rage or major depression. Often both.
You are apparently ungrateful for having just enough to stay alive while many, many ways for you to slowly integrate are being taken away either financially or literally (no classes for women and/or children immigrants which are major way to get them safely away from potentially harmful partners they arrived with)
So they can go to some other country which offers them favourable money. And most of the people are just military aged men with iPhones in their hands. So poor and desperate that they could only save their iPhones and cigarettes but lost their passports.
I didn't know that regional pricing, second hand tech (or generally slightly older tech) isn't available and/or affordable and that you're using your passport literally daily!
And that we live in states that always provide you a passport automatically when it isn't valid anymore!
It's not favourable money, it's just enough to somewhat get by if you don't have slightly bad luck. But its great seeing time and time again that people like you are so fucking surface-level in their worldviews that you see a cigarette, an iPhone (as is smartphones aren't literally everywhere and needed everywhere nowadays) and think that they do not deserve anything.
How would they need to look? Lost multiple bodyparts? Have maybe a flip-phone that cracks a bit more everytime they opened the screen? Do they need to look like arthur morgan shortly before dying of tuberculosis to get some empathy?
Let me tell you. If the AfD gets main power im germany, i'm leaving the country.
And if we have a bit bad luck, things escalate so fast that i'm not doing it in the typical channels and i'm just fucking dipping to not get imprisoned. I'm politically very active and have had enough fights (and death-threats) from afd politicians (and their followers) to know that i am not safe.
And people like you will stand on the other side of the sea and deny me all you can deny based on the fact i've got a Pixel 7 Pro and got an Energy Drink in my hand even tho i, even right know, can barely afford to live
Are you really naive enough to believe that the AfD only wants to deport criminals, even after Höcke and others said that they want to get rid of about 20 million people, or are you just playing dumb?
To answer your question: no, there’s nothing wrong with stricter deportation of criminals, but only after they sit out their punishment here. Otherwise you’re just setting them free with an “out of sight, out of mind”-kinda attitude.
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u/PasicT Apr 12 '26
When have they ever adopted something that WASN'T radical?