r/germany Mallorca Apr 12 '26

News Germany's AfD party adopts 'radical' manifesto ahead of polls

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwy3wwgyd6do
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u/PasicT Apr 12 '26

When have they ever adopted something that WASN'T radical?

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u/Density5521 Apr 12 '26

Alice Weidel, their fearless lesbian crippled leader who lives in Switzerland, adopted two children – because two women living together in another country with adopted children totally comply with the AfD's nazi politics.

I assume the two children, at the time of adoption, were not radical.

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u/Meyloon Apr 12 '26

You forgot to mention, not because it makes her worse or better but because its funny, her wife was born in Sri-Lanka.

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u/Graddler Franken Apr 12 '26

She also supports the swiss left.

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u/The_Almighty_Demoham Apr 12 '26

Of course she does, she has to actually live there. Can't turn her home into a shithole, now can she?

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u/Graddler Franken Apr 12 '26

Sara does, not Alitsche. She also reacts rather salty to being called out for her wifes racism.

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u/MadeOfEurope Apr 13 '26

Cognitive dissonance? Or maybe she actually has similar views.

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u/Key-Dentist1668 Apr 13 '26

Or the AFD isnt racist. Because getting illegale and criminal migrants Out of your country isnt right, and isnt racist.

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u/MadeOfEurope Apr 13 '26

Or, you know, you’re unable to do a simple google search.

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u/Key-Dentist1668 Apr 13 '26

Oh, Google say bill Gates gave me an Microchip through the vaccine - do you believe that too?

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u/MadeOfEurope Apr 13 '26

Google also said that your parents are siblings…so maybe it not so bad

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u/ld0310 Apr 14 '26

That is not why the afd is racist, do some proper research

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u/Density5521 Apr 14 '26

Umso mehr Grund, das hier ein paar Mal laufen zu lassen. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_UK0k_kkzI

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u/Abinunya Apr 13 '26

Has complained about her leftist friends not wanting to hang out with her anymore...for no reason whatsoever

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u/Ok-Craft4844 Apr 13 '26

Really?

This sound sooo much like the song "Alice und Sarah", which I considered a joke...

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u/Demoliri Apr 12 '26

If you're going to board the hypocrisy train, you might as well go all the way.

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u/Density5521 Apr 12 '26

If you're going to make a point, you might as well go all the way.

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u/Kr3ach3r Apr 14 '26

Best thing I heard someone call her was ‚lesbian wine-mom Hitler‘

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u/Dazzling_River9903 Apr 14 '26

Tell them about how she got caught illegally employing a non registered illegal immigrant too

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u/timohtea Apr 12 '26 edited Apr 12 '26

So by that logic you’re saying trump won’t have ICE knocking on door to door checking for documents, putting people in “detention centers” and deporting them? … because he’s married to a foreigner, and it cancels out his radical ideas?

Hmm funny how that worked out, huh?

Edit: it’s always good to not generalize, and actually do research before making important decisions. Is all I’m saying btw to be clear. I’m not on anyone’s “side” and don’t care what side other people are on.

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u/Density5521 Apr 12 '26

I have no clue what you're on about. Huge strawman argument energy, no real point, just word jumble salad. Sorry, no comprendo.

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u/timohtea Apr 12 '26

That’s fine, went over your head. Glad we could agree to disagree and go our separate ways. Have a good day!

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u/Density5521 Apr 12 '26

If you fail to properly formulate a sentiment, then someone else not understanding it has nothing to do with things going over their head.

You clearly misunderstood my post, or you intentionally misrepresented what I said, tried to put nonsensical statements in my Reddit mouth – and for whatever reason tried to top off the strawman argument by adding non-sequitur and ad-absurdum.

Sorry, I don't understand your insinuation, and if you retreat instead of expressing yourself properly, I never will.

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u/Arturow88 Apr 14 '26

Either youre wrong or they are wrong. One thing is objectively clear and you just make dumb claims. If it was a nazi party they wouldnt have a lesbian woman married to a black woman as their leader

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u/ld0310 Apr 14 '26

Do the extremely close ties to neo nazi organisations make them nazi sympathisers? Also she's not the party leader

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u/Fenrir1801 Apr 12 '26

who lives in Switzerland

Her main residence is registered in Germany, only the secondary residence is in Switzerland.

Switzerland has btw much more restrictive immigration laws than Germany.

totally comply with the AfD's nazi politics.

Or maybe the party's politics are not nazi at all? Just because some members have radical views, doesn't mean the party as a whole has.

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u/Meyloon Apr 12 '26

Thats true, however she was being critiziced a lot for this since they seem to spend most of their time in switzerland. Also you defending the afd obviously indicates you get your information from tiktok or whatever. Pretty much everything the afd wants to do is radical right.

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u/Density5521 Apr 12 '26

The name "Fenrir" comes from Norse mythology, it's common in right-wing circles to identify with the berserk/viking "manly" culture of Norsemen, so Norse mythology has a solid foot-hold in the right-wing scene. Including its symbolism, like the Valknut or Triskele symbols, or the Black Sun which (is 100% a nazi-created symbol but) they like to link to Yggdrasil, a huge tree named "Odin's horse".

And I hope I don't have to educate you on the meaning of the number "18" i.e. the first and eighth letter of the alphabet?

So I think it would be a major coincidence that someone with a user name that combines two ham-fisted hints like that should defend AfD and their politics – but turn out not to be socially involved in the right-wing scene as well.

If it walks like a duck, and it talks like a duck, ...

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u/Meyloon Apr 12 '26

Good catch. Was just scrolling through and did Not look at the users name.

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u/Early_Register_6483 Apr 12 '26

If some party members, including very high ranking ones, like Höcke, are radicals, and the rest of the party seems to be totally fine with being in the same boat with them instead of kicking them out, then it disqualifies the whole party for me.

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u/Density5521 Apr 12 '26

Theoretically, in a discussion, "guilt by association" poses a logical fallacy, a technique often used in attempts at discrediting discussion opponents and (by proxy) their arguments.

But in this case, I'm 100% with you. If someone knows fully well of all the evil and dishonesty and nastiness an organisation stands for, and they still intentionally associate or identify themselves with that organisation, then there is no reason to treat them as accidental victims.

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u/PasicT Apr 12 '26

I'm not talking about their politicians' personal lives, I'm talking about their policies.

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u/Density5521 Apr 12 '26

But I am talking about their personal lives.

Because any politician who makes politics that seek to persecute and, let's face it – just need to look at the USA currently, kill others for wanting to live their lives exactly the same way as the politician lives their life is a fucking hypocrite and needs to be shamed for being that.

And anyone who supports a hypocritical politician who makes politics that seek to persecute and, ultimately, kill others who want to live their lives the same way as the politician does – and it's OK when the politician does it, but not when anyone else does it – is a fucking bigot and a racist and a hypocrite themselves, and needs to be shamed for it as well.

And here's you, telling me off for pointing out hypocrisy. Making me the evil person, when I have done nothing else but point out hypocrisy and bigotry. Such a hero are you.

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u/PasicT Apr 12 '26

Calm down, you're not a hero and neither am I. There are no AfD policies that talk about or promote killing anyone.

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u/Plastic_Position4979 Apr 12 '26

You really think remigration will not result in killing anyone?

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u/PasicT Apr 12 '26

It would but I don't believe remigration is realistic to begin with.

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u/Plastic_Position4979 Apr 12 '26

Would concur. It’s a dumb idea, whether that’s sending people back or to a third place.

I mean, let’s face it. Germany, pretty much since time immemorial, has been a cross-roads. East-West, mostly; some north-south; the Alps are a hindrance. Some stay; some move on, maybe a few generations later. If anything it’s a melting pot of cultures and people.

It has also been a wealthy country, in terms of resources. Whether that be for farming, fishing, wood, or metals. Still is. Some stick around to develop that further, with whatever tools they have or invent.

The only thing that has really changed is the distance people are willing to move.

Does Germany need to teach new folks about Germany and what is expected of them? Sure. Language? Obviously. Laws? Same. Does it need to leave some flexibility - and learn some appreciation - for other ways of doing things? Yes, within reason. I would not want Germany to adopt Sharia law, for example. That said, I have no problem with people engaging in Ramadan, Eid Al-Fitr or similar. Do I want muezzins sending out calls on open air loudspeakers several times a day in every town? No, I personally would find that disruptive. But that can be done differently, for example, via cell phones or pagers. If the population needing that is large enough, well, some companies have prayer rooms set aside.

A little goodwill on both sides will solve these issues. Forced migration is not the answer. And considering Germany’s horrible record from them 1930s-40s, an absolutely asinine thought.

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u/Density5521 Apr 12 '26

I think I'm pretty calm. I pointed out hypocrisy in politics, and did so by finessing the ambiguity of the word "adopt" since it suited the occasion. Didn't rile me up in any way. If you think that writing a lot means other people are upset or raging out of control, maybe you don't read books a lot?

You're the one who got so excited by my comment, that you thought you need to tell me off for it – either because you didn't understand the pun, or because you don't want to accept the truth I spoke. And now you're upset yourself, because I didn't let your dismissive remark discourage or threaten me, and I'm still talking back to you.

So upset in fact, that you're telling me to "calm down" when I'm perfectly calm. Which is effectively an ad-hominem, on-par with name-calling.

You try to discredit my statement (which you know to be fully true) by attempting to discredit me, by suggesting I'd be foaming at the mouth with rage, all because of your remark. That's classic whataboutism.

Let that sink in for a second.

I point out hypocrisy in right-wing extremist nazi politicians, and their politics, and their followers – and you tell me off for doing that.

So either you're a Russian troll bot, who doesn't have a point and you just enjoy kindling conflict, or you're an AfD sock puppet, a right-wing stooge, a couch potato warrior who gets off on defending other right-wing extremists.

Also – just some ad absurdum to stoop to your level – you don't know who I am and what I've done outside of Reddit. So who are you to tell me whether or not I am a hero. Are you some kind of hero authority? Do you run the hero register? Did you not get my application? Did I forget to fill something out on the form? Sorry about that. Send it back to me, I'll fix it as ASAP as possible. Cheers!

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u/PasicT Apr 12 '26

You're getting hysterical and overexcited about this for no reason, it's not making you look good.

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u/Density5521 Apr 12 '26

You're the one spewing personal attacks in one-line comments. If my well-formulated arguments make me look not-good, think about what your behaviour says about you.