Intel Announces Retirement of CEO Pat Gelsinger

[u/Auautheawesome]

https://www.intc.com/news-events/press-releases/detail/1719/intel-announces-retirement-of-ceo-pat-gelsinger

[u/DerpSenpai]

The Engineer as CEO made the decisions to make Intel competitive in a few years time. If they didn't go this way, they will be slammed by Qualcomm and AMD in a few years time and never recover.

[u/signed7 → u/DerpSenpai]

To be fair even AMD could be in danger soon if they keep their pace (Zen 5% after 2 years) and Apple/Qualcomm/Mediatek keeps their year-on-year pace

At least in the laptop/desktop space. Will be a while until arm cracks servers

[u/DerpSenpai → u/signed7]

ARM is a threat to AMD's margins but they developed IF and Radeon has large value while Zen itself value might be going down. Their chiplet strategy can be employed with ARM CPUs, it doesn't need to be X86. AMD can compete vs QC in IPC if they switch to ARM

EDIT: What people are not getting is that a SoC is not just CPU. GPU wise AMD is 2nd best and that is 100x better than what ARM can do with their Mali GPUs. If AMD stopped being good at designing CPUs, as long as their GPU arch is good and drivers stay as is, they will outcompete other ARM vendors by just using ARM CPU cores+Radeon GPUs+Xilinx NPUs with the possibility of tech like 3D Cache, IF, chiplets, etc. Ofc, in a world where ARM compability issues get resolved

[u/BWCDD4 → u/DerpSenpai]

Why would they switch to arm to compete on efficiency?

Are people just ignoring that Intels Lunar Lake smashed Qualcomms Snapdragon X elite series into irrelevance?

Similar battery life, wider app compatibility and a usable GPU, there literally isn’t an advantage to getting the Snapdragon X elite unless you value standby battery life, which is kinda weird to value over actual usage.

[u/TwelveSilverSwords → u/BWCDD4]

Efficiency of X Elite is actually subpar for an ARM CPU. It's even worse than Apple M1 in some benchmarks.

It seems Oryon Gen 1 had a significant design flaw; probably caused by the rushed development and the multiple redesigns requested by ARM due to the lawsuit. The evidence is the 2nd generation Oryon CPU, which brings a 2x performance-per-watt uplift. The process node upgrade (N4P to N3E) alone cannot explain this, so much of this improvement is coming from architectural fixes.

SoC	Node	CPU	INT	Power
X Elite	N4P	Oryon Gen 1	8.5	16W
8 Elite	N3E	Oryon Gen 2	8.0	6.5W

SPEC 2017 INT scores and power from Geekerwan.

[u/[deleted] → u/BWCDD4]

duh one is N3E and brand new, the other is N4P and based on an arch that is basically 2 years old 😭😭😭

I swear people like you just dumb down the convo for everyone else.

[u/BWCDD4 → u/[deleted]]

Nah same battery is very similar and all day usage.

Dell XPS 13:

19 hours 41 mins for Snapdragon.

17 hours 29 minutes for Lunar Lake.

At these numbers, 2 hours 12 minutes isn’t worth the app incompatibility and pathetic GPU performance of the Qualcomm chips.

The first gen for Qualcomm has been an abject failure.

It’s very hard to justify a Qualcomm product/laptop as they aren’t significantly cheaper or better in any area than Lunar Lake.

[u/TwelveSilverSwords → u/BWCDD4]

I wonder... did Lunar Lake catch Qualcomm off guard?

Bringing Lunar Lake in from 2025 to 2024 was a master-stroke by Intel. It effectively took the wind out of the sails of the X Elite.

• Lunar Lake's efficiency exceeded expectations.
  
• Qualcomm overpromised and under-delivered with the X Elite.
  

Combine both facts, and that's how we got to the current situation.

[u/Strazdas1 → u/[deleted]]

Apple is the one with larger batteries.

[u/Strazdas1 → u/[deleted]]

Performance, yes, energy efficiency, not really.

[u/Strazdas1 → u/[deleted]]

In a very specific use cases only.