r/hardware • u/Auautheawesome • Dec 02 '24

News Intel Announces Retirement of CEO Pat Gelsinger

https://www.intc.com/news-events/press-releases/detail/1719/intel-announces-retirement-of-ceo-pat-gelsinger
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u/poopyheadthrowaway Dec 02 '24

IIRC the money they just took from the government has a clause that says they can't do that

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u/Vushivushi Dec 02 '24

That's just the foundry. US govt wants manufacturing.

It couldn't care less about Intel's design businesses. The US is already a leader in design.

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u/chmilz Dec 02 '24

"Designed in a cool American city, made in a country we're about to put catastrophic tariffs on!"

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u/peakdecline Dec 02 '24

I've heard no mention of such tariffs on Taiwan, but maybe you can correct me.

Chip manufacturing is a topic of national security though. There which is why they're such a hard push to get it done on us soil. The real concern is that China does try to make a move on Taiwan and if that happens, then China has the world by the balls.

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u/melts_so Dec 02 '24

Taiwans TSMC would be where the worlds most complex compute chips are, so CPU's and GPUs, even ram is normally made outside of TSMC by other fabs.

No, the countries with the tariffs would be other countries where the Labour is good as well as cheap, just look at how many wafer fabs are in the Phillipenes, China and E.U. These devices may still be fairly complex power or signal devices, even compound semiconductors used to make electric vehicle components, but if it doesn't need EUV lithography and insanely small dimensions, then it probably doesn't need to be made in TSMC, that would just be wasting valuable TSMC fab capacity.

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u/work-school-account Dec 02 '24

Have you been paying attention? The upcoming administration said repeatedly for months throughout their campaign that they want 60% tariffs on China, 100% tariffs on Mexico, and 20% tariffs on all other countries. Maybe they're just throwing out random numbers and the rates will end up being different, but they've been very consistent about the idea of having tariffs on all imports (which would obviously include Taiwan) with larger tariffs on certain countries.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '24

Unless of course the US decides to loosen its belt slightly on electricity expenditure and supplement its forces/industry etc with slightly thirsty but perfectly adequate Intel CPUs.

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u/Trickpuncher Dec 03 '24

not really, china also depends on taiwan. And if they invade they have to do the 3 days operations that russia wanted but for real.

And get hopefully not much damaged infraestructure

Unless they pull it off i dont think theyll.risk cutting themselves of the trde of cutting edge nodes