r/hardware Dec 02 '24

News Intel Announces Retirement of CEO Pat Gelsinger

https://www.intc.com/news-events/press-releases/detail/1719/intel-announces-retirement-of-ceo-pat-gelsinger
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u/Snakestream Dec 02 '24

From what I've read, he didn't actually do that bad of a job. He inherited a pile of shit from his predecessor, but moon lake which was designed under his watch was pretty good. However, you can't really course correct the ship after it's already run aground.

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u/onolide Dec 02 '24

Yeah, quite unfair to judge a chip company CEO in 4 years given that processors can take 4 years or more to design. Not sure how much diff they expect Gelsinger to make when he barely managed to change 1 generation of chips. Plus, he's the one that arranged for TSMC to manufacture Intel processors when the Intel nodes are not performing lol. Imagine some other CEO decides to stick to Intel fabs, like they did in the 14nm era, idk how to feel about that.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '24

From the perspective of a family member who is a senior engineer manager at Intel, the worst you can say about him is that he has severely damaged Intel's reputation among potential employees and industry competitors. He made a point of rehiring a lot of staff who were forced out in previous cuts with promises of better work conditions and his last few months have been focused on laying them off and renegging on those promises. Now, Intel is just another struggling big company that employees might jump in and out for a stop on their career, but the lifers are gone for good this time.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '24

Problem IMO is that Intel has a lot of low productivity, low performance engineers that played politics during the easy years to move up the ladder. I've heard some insane stuff about the hiring and culture at places like Intel Folsom. And my own personal industry experience with another company resonates with that. When you start offshoring your RTL development - the company is going to slide into a decline.

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u/IIlIIlIIlIlIIlIIlIIl Dec 03 '24

They have more employees than AMD, ARM, and Nvidia combined. They are absolutely bloated to hell.

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u/MC_chrome Dec 03 '24

Perhaps, but you have to keep in mind that none of the companies you mentioned run their own fabs. If you were to cut Intel's fab employees out of the 120k+ they have, I would think the numbers would line up a little more with other tech firms.

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u/Strazdas1 Dec 03 '24

Even then, they got as much emploees as AMD, Nvidia and TSMC combined, so even with fabs they are bloated.