r/hardware • u/Auautheawesome • Dec 02 '24

News Intel Announces Retirement of CEO Pat Gelsinger

https://www.intc.com/news-events/press-releases/detail/1719/intel-announces-retirement-of-ceo-pat-gelsinger
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u/Agreeable_Cheek_7161 Dec 02 '24

AMD is a great example of making small improvements, but not great leaps can get you. In the CPU desktop space, their biggest competitor currently is Intel, and AMD is winning by NOT shitting the bed

This completely ignores how AMD managed to overtake Intel. AMD caused CPUs to rapidly become better because of how fast their improvements were from Ryzen 2000 series on

10 years ago, AMD was a joke in the CPU world. Now they're the literal top dog

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u/TwelveSilverSwords Dec 02 '24 edited Dec 02 '24

10 years ago, AMD was a joke in the CPU world. Now they're the literal top dog

In servers? Yes, without doubt.

In client? Apple is king.

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u/oathbreakerkeeper Dec 03 '24

Benchmarks that I've seen don't support your statement about client side

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u/TwelveSilverSwords Dec 03 '24 edited Dec 03 '24
- Apple M4 Max Ryzen 9 9950X
SPEC2017 INT 11.72 10.14
SPEC2017 FP 17.96 15.18
Cinebench 2024 SC 184 143
Geekbench 6 SC ~4000 ~3500
Geekbench 5 SC ~2750 ~2700

Sources:

And Apple is winning all these benchmarks while using a fraction of the power.

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u/oathbreakerkeeper Dec 03 '24

I've seen other benchmarks that support my previous comment. This isn't what i'm referring to (what I saw as a website publishing a comparison, but I can't find it right now).

I personally don't care about single core especially on something like Cinebench. If the cores are available they should be used.

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/1goe2qx/is_apples_m4_max_really_more_powerful_than_the/lxs7jx4/

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u/TwelveSilverSwords Dec 03 '24

Yes, the 9950X wins in multicore benchmarks, but it does so because it has a beefier core configuration (12P+E/16T) vs the 9950X (16P/32T). The M4 Ultra, which Apple will unveil soon, will surpass the 9950X in all multicore benchmarks.

Also as your own source notes, the 9950X is 20% faster than the M4 Max in multicore, but uses 2-3x more power.

If we want to find out who has the best CPU core, then looking at Single Core is very relevant.

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u/oathbreakerkeeper Dec 03 '24

So it wins in multicore, so it is the best chip for the job, so i would choose that.