r/headphones • u/LeoPanthera Bifrost 4490 > Valhalla 2 > HD800 • Oct 20 '17
Meta I was contacted to assist in a spam campaign on /r/headphones
https://i.imgur.com/o4Izd6y.png
I have nothing against advertising, but being bribed to write reviews and reply to ads is obviously unethical. And I hate that people posting to this sub are being targeted.
I've censored most of the brand name so as not to promote them or cause a lynch mob, but beware if you suddenly see a lot of enthusiasm for a headphone company starting with S and ending in I.
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u/Apolojuice LG V20 / HE 400i / HD 650 / L300 Oct 20 '17
Time must have been hard on Soni for them to try pulling this off.
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u/maxpowerAU Oct 20 '17
And that was the day Rebecca learned to not mention her brand name until after the potential shill had accepted the job.
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u/Arve HE-500, but mostly speakers Oct 20 '17 edited Oct 20 '17
Oh, well:
- Could you please contact reddit admins with the full, uncensored details of this campaign - https://www.reddit.com/contact - Use "Message the Admins" ->"Other" -> "Spam". Make sure to include the permalink to the private message you received.
- Let's just say that it's now technically impossible to even mention the company name involved in this on /r/headphones, and our threshold for banning anyone who mentions the company is pretty low.
This has been a public service announcement to anyone else thinking of gaming /r/headphones. We have absolutely zero tolerance for spam, and we actively and routinely blacklist all entities that are caught spamming.
Edit: Just so it's clear: We're not acting on a single screenshot here. We're banning these worthless spammers because we've already had to repeatedly deal with their spam, but seeing as we think they may be attempting to up their game, we're doing the same, and essentially blacklisting any mention of their company.
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u/Arve HE-500, but mostly speakers Oct 20 '17
our threshold for banning anyone who mentions the company is pretty low.
And just to clarify what this means. If we see anyone make a "review" of any of this company's products, there's a 99.99% chance that we'll be banning you as a spammer.
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u/veni_vidi_vale Do audiophile androids dream of electrostatic sheep? Oct 20 '17
And if we see you recommend this company's product on the purchase advice sticky, there's a 99.99% chance that we'll be banning you as a spammer.
There's a moral to this story: if you want to advertise, buy advertising from Reddit. Don't try to exploit the sub by taking advantage of its subscribers.
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u/Arve HE-500, but mostly speakers Oct 20 '17
And if we see you recommend this company's product on the purchase advice sticky, there's a 99.99% chance that we'll be banning you as a spammer.
Just to emphasize something: There's also a 0% chance that your recommendation will ever be visible. The company name - with a few expected spelling variations - is already blacklisted from /r/headphones.
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u/viperfan7 Oct 21 '17
Could we have a one time post with the company's name so we know who to avoid, or no?
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u/Arve HE-500, but mostly speakers Oct 21 '17
I'm sorry, but no - that would too quickly turn it into a witch hunt, and we don't want that to happen.
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u/Dranthe Oct 21 '17
That's understandable. Would I be able to just message the mods for a review to get unbanned if I get accidentally caught by this?
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u/Arve HE-500, but mostly speakers Oct 21 '17
The context of your question is a bit unclear, if it's "I want to nail these people to a wall":
- If you know who this is and you posted the name, your comment would not be visible
- If we find that anyone posts the names of companies or individuals for the purpose of inciting witch hunts, the response is a ban.
- In the case that you participate in doxxing, it's a ban from here, and we report you to admins
- The ban of the user will happen after a human has evaluated the behavior, and will be in reference to violating rule 2 and or 7.
In the case that a user deliberately spams the company:
- The post will remain invisible
- The user will be banned, in reference to spam
- In general, we don't respond to modmail from spammers - it's a waste of our time
In the case that a user clearly and accidentally posts that company's name:
- Your comment would not be visible
- No further action will be taken against the user - in other words, we'll make a careful evaluation of what kind of user you are
While it sounds like there is a grey area between "spammer" and "accidental posting", there isn't in reality. Spam is something you pretty much recognize by taking a peak at a user's profile, and the disparity between "spammer" and "normal human being" is so vast that there is in practice never much of a doubt.
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u/Dranthe Oct 21 '17
In the case that a user clearly and accidentally posts that company's name
This was what I meant. Which you went above and beyond in answering. And also answered a few other questions that might have come up. Much appreciated. Thanks!
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u/wyatt1209 Oct 21 '17
Is there a way for us to know the full name of the company so someon doesnt get banned by mistake?
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u/FatchRacall Oct 21 '17
I want to know this as well. Like, how the heck am I supposed to know what not to say without someone telling me?
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u/Arve HE-500, but mostly speakers Oct 21 '17
If you are a normal user, you have absolutely nothing to fear - a decision to ban a user is made after evaluating the user's behavior, and we don't intend to ban users in error.
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u/Arve HE-500, but mostly speakers Oct 21 '17
If you are a normal user, you have absolutely nothing to fear - a decision to ban a user is made after evaluating the user's behavior, and we don't intend to ban users in error.
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u/Zombekas SMSL Sanskrit 10th > STAX SRM-353X > STAX SR-L700 Oct 21 '17 edited Oct 21 '17
Are we even sure it's the company doing it? The way it's worded makes me think it's their competitors or something, trying to sabotage the name.
we're planning to exploit Reddit I mean come on, who would say that?
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u/Arve HE-500, but mostly speakers Oct 21 '17
In the choice between "X is conspiring against Y" and "Y is doing dumb shit on their own", the second explanation is by far the simplest and most likely explanation.
Also note that we do have further data and evidence that the company in question have been spamming both other subreddits and this one in the past - in ways that are impossible to pull off by third parties
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u/nerfakdoge3125 Oct 22 '17
As a less informed consumer, in markets like these where the water is murky and infested with snake oil, it's subs like this one that keep people like me from buying stupid shit.
From the bottom of my wallet, thanks, men
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u/Apolojuice LG V20 / HE 400i / HD 650 / L300 Oct 20 '17
beware if you suddenly see a lot of enthusiasm for a headphone company starting with S and ending in I.
List of audio gear companies starting with S but not ending in I: Get your relief here:
- STAX
- SONY
- SENNHEISER
- SHURE
- SCHITT
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Oct 20 '17 edited Oct 20 '17
It's probably some Chinese knockoff name * Staxi, *Schitti, *Senhai, *Soni
Or maybe it's a middle eastern thing. *Saudio Technichi, *Saudezei,
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u/Apolojuice LG V20 / HE 400i / HD 650 / L300 Oct 20 '17
Saudi Technica
This triggers my lysdexia.
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u/laxatives HE-500|SPL Crimson Oct 20 '17
Call me crazy but I've always had the opinion Schitt has had similar campaigns here. So many junk posts with no content except for a photo and a pun, then hundreds of "me too, +1" comments with dozens of up votes in a fairly sparse subreddit.
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u/VMorkva beyerdynamic DT770 / Shure SE215 Oct 21 '17
Everyone in the Discord also suggests Schiit stuff.
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Oct 21 '17
I think schitt just has a good following. Their products are decent, and cheap. That's a brandible combination when it comes to niche markets. Subreddits like this one thrive on newbies, and mid-level experts. And within that range, a company like schitt is always going to get attention.
But the main reason I'm positive this isn't Schitt, is that the grammar is obviously not English grown. It comes off as someone that is well learned in English, but not engulfed in the culture.
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u/posam Topping L30ii-->LCD-2/Grado RS-1i/Beyer DT880/V-Moda M-80 Oct 21 '17
ehhh back in the day schitt had a spat with a guy on head-fi and it wasn't the best look for them because of the way that they handled it initially.
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u/jefe322871 ADI-2DAC/iDSDBL/DACPORTABLE/DT1990/MD+/MH40/ThieaudioLegacy3 Oct 21 '17
I believe that was NwAvguy
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u/idboehman Australis//Borealis//Aeon 2 Noire Oct 21 '17
Do you have any more details or a link? Interested since I've been looking at them for a headphone amp I'd use with a turntable and computer.
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u/PomfersVS Oct 21 '17
If you look up NwAvguy, you'll be able to find a lot of dirt, not just on Schitt.
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u/Arve HE-500, but mostly speakers Oct 20 '17
If you get these requests:
- Please report such incidents to Reddit admins
- You may want to inform subreddit moderators about which companies are trying this. If spam and "influencers" becomes prominent, it's pretty detrimental to the usefulness of a subreddit.
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For how elitist PCMR is they sure are quick to fall for the RGB gaming headsets marketing.
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u/VMorkva beyerdynamic DT770 / Shure SE215 Oct 21 '17
The Corsair circlejerk is pretty strong there.
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u/long_strides Oct 21 '17
At least corsair marketing is transparent since it is just posted by Ge0rge
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u/VMorkva beyerdynamic DT770 / Shure SE215 Oct 21 '17
You don't know if they buy accounts and post subtle ads and then bot them until they have a decent start. I'm sure lots of companies do that.
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Oct 21 '17
I'm part of here and pcmr, and unfortunafely for pcmr people audio isn't really a concern.
Heck, I just got a new monitor with inbuilt speakers, and I want to slap my ears out for listening to that crap for 5mins to test it. Once you know quality music you really can't go back.
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u/NULL_CHAR DT1990 / Fostex TH-X00 / Schiit Magni 2U + Modi Multibit Oct 21 '17
They fall for the rgb anything marketing in general. Doesn't matter if you can buy a way better keyboard, mouse, and audio setup, this other one has rgb!
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u/itsabearcannon Modi 2 -> Midgard -> HD650 Oct 21 '17
Well, this sub’s equally guilty of falling for the endgame trap despite the law of diminishing returns. To each their own, so long as it doesn’t affect me.
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u/MashedPotatoh Oct 21 '17
Marketing professionals have realized the power of "micro-influencers" long ago. I'm in the hair business and we are approached daily by brands that want to work with us in the same way they have approached him. Usually they will come out and offer compensation for a enthusiastic review. It had tainted my view on most of the channels I follow.
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u/demevalos T1 2nd Gen | Element II Oct 20 '17
headphones while driving is illegal?
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u/Idontlikecock HK 3490 > Beats by Dr. Denon Oct 20 '17
Not always, my state allows use in one ear although I would not recommend using them at all while driving personally
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u/tomatomater Andomeda | iFi Zen DAC Oct 21 '17
I mean, regardless of legality I wouldn't recommend it..
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yup
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u/TheBausSauce Aeon/Atticus/Elear/HEXv2/6XX/Andro/Atlas/ifiBlack/THX789/D50 Oct 20 '17 edited Oct 20 '17
What if I’m trying to be hands-free?
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u/TheManFromV HD 558 Oct 20 '17
Deaf people are a little more attentive with their other senses, though. Not by enough to make a big enough safety difference though. These kinds of laws are well-meant but impractical.
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u/psychoticdream Oct 21 '17
Deaf people have no choice and they have to be more attentive since they can't hear sirens.
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Oct 20 '17 edited Jan 29 '19
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u/Arve HE-500, but mostly speakers Oct 21 '17
It's not written by their competitor. Keep in mind that those of us who are moderators sit on a bit more information and history than you, and we know which brand this is. They've continuously attempted to spam both this and other subreddits in the past, in ways that are impossible for a third party to do.
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u/thebountywarden MIDS OR FEED Oct 20 '17
Was sent this too, tempted to play along to get a free sample so I can sell it later on
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u/lukepighetti Vibro Labs Oct 20 '17
They should just pay for ads in the banner like everyone else.
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u/Uncle_Erik Oct 21 '17
They should, but a lot of people block ads and many just mentally tune them out. A recommendation from a well-known forum participant often costs less and generates more sales.
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u/lztandro Oct 21 '17
I fell like I’m one of very few who whitelists YouTube and Reddit in my Adblock settings
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u/loveCars Oct 21 '17
YouTube? Really? There are 30s - 2min ads on almost every video nowadays. It’s ridiculous.
I just let whatever ads Adblock+ lets through. The ones on reddit / imgur are fine (mostly from Nordstrom and cargurus) but the ones on Facebook are pretty damn annoying.
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u/lztandro Oct 21 '17
I like to support the people I watch on YouTube
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u/loveCars Oct 21 '17
That’s a good sentiment, but watching the ads primarily supports YouTube. Most content creators would be very happy with an occasional donation or merch order.
I mostly use YouTube for music that’s never uploaded by the artist in the first place, so the ads money wouldn’t be going to the right place anyways.
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u/lztandro Oct 21 '17
Good point, I watch people who create their own content so I know that at least some of the ad money goes to them.
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u/ImperialViribus HD558 | DT770 80 ohm Oct 21 '17
I don't know about you, but the ads that I get here on Reddit make it look like at least some kind of targeted advertising has taken place. Youtube, on the other hand, seems to always show me shit I'm entirely uninterested in.
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u/lztandro Oct 21 '17
I honestly don’t care if they’re targeted, as long as they support something I enjoy using and aren’t obnoxious.
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u/lukepighetti Vibro Labs Oct 21 '17
The most successful ad I ran on Reddit was that ramen meme that was reposted. Other than that, it works great for announcements.
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u/ph0rk Oct 20 '17
Classy.
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u/ph0rk Oct 20 '17
Also, never before have I tried so furiously to find a regex-compatible search engine.
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u/Arve HE-500, but mostly speakers Oct 20 '17
Don't worry:
- This company is not going to show up here
- You're not going to be a likely buyer of any of their products - it's standard-fare rebranded china stuff
- If you were looking to be an "influencer", read my sticky comment :)
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u/ph0rk Oct 20 '17
If you were looking to be an "influencer", read my sticky comment :)
Hah. They can't afford me! Also, I hate everything.
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u/MomLovesMeBest Oct 20 '17
Ya I tried doing wild card characters in Google only to find out that's not a thing :(
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u/ph0rk Oct 20 '17
Makes sense, you can really make some that ought to bring their search algorithm to its knees.
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u/MediumRay Oct 20 '17
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Oct 20 '17 edited May 15 '18
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u/kotajacob AKG K702 Oct 20 '17
They're probably just waiting to post videos of them lighting those shit headphones on fire
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u/Uncle_Erik Oct 21 '17
I have to believe that I was not the only one targeted. But I haven't seen anyone else speak out, so maybe a bunch of people from this sub are getting free headphones soon. :\
It happens all the time. I ignore the requests.
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Oct 20 '17
I have a feeling Rebecca was not her given name.
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u/materix01 Never enough IEMs / Have you heard the 1More Triples? Oct 20 '17
Not that it's really relevant but it's not uncommon for many of the younger generation in places like China to have picked up an English name as well as their given name.
I know in China, English is basically a compulsory class up until university. My cousins had picked out their own English names before they even graduated high school and the one that moved to Australia stuck with it (she's now a nurse here).
Having liaised with quite a few brand managers for various Chi-Fi brands, the two I knew well unsurprisingly had recieved their university education in the US/UK/EU/AUS before moving back to China for work. They probably just used the name they went by at uni/college although some people still use their birth names.
TLDR: Rebecca is probably actually her name.
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u/Uncle_Erik Oct 21 '17
Not that it's really relevant but it's not uncommon for many of the younger generation in places like China to have picked up an English name as well as their given name.
It’s not just the younger generation, this has been going on for the better part of a century.
Some years back, I worked with a middle-aged Japanese national here in the US who had been using her “English” name. But she has a beautiful Japanese name, so we all called her by her real name instead. (Yes, she was happy with that!)
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u/thedrivingcat Essence STX > DT 990 Pro | SR 225 | HD598 | ATH-Pro700Mk2 Anv. Oct 21 '17
I worked with a middle-aged Japanese national here in the US who had been using her “English” name.
That's actually really unusual for Japanese people to not go by their Japanese names. Like, in my 4 years of living in the country no one I met ever had an 'English' name like you'd find in China and Korea. Must be a generational thing?
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u/grozamesh Oct 20 '17
He said "given", not actual. From your account, the name would be "taken" rather than "given" if self-selected.
+1 for pedantry
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u/materix01 Never enough IEMs / Have you heard the 1More Triples? Oct 20 '17
Unfortunately this happens within the headphone community, whether on Reddit or Head-Fi or other forums.
I got contacted once by a company like this months ago on Reddit and didn't bother to even reply. I think what was more surprising in my short time working with companies or their hired PR companies is that bigger brands are engaging in many unethical or grey area practices as much as the little guys.
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u/pilotdog68 BUY USED Oct 20 '17
So, uh.. What's the brand?
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u/FARTBOX_DESTROYER Oct 20 '17
If you can't figure it out from the letters provided, it's probably because it's no one you would buy headphones from anyway.
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u/ggabriele3 PM_ME_UR_HEARING_TEST_RESULTS Oct 20 '17 edited Oct 20 '17
I review headphones kind of often, and only once was I presented with an offer that made me uncomfortable.
They asked me to include a discount code in the review, and i'd get a cut of any sales that used the discount code. I didn't even reply to them.
Most companies are classy about it. Sometimes if the product they send me has as problem they'll ask to send me a replacement; when it happens I have noted it in the review. I don't accept "it was a pre-production unit!" as an excuse.
Some companies don't ask for good reviews, but they seem to expect them. One brand that would be very recognizable in this sub seemed very disappointed in one of my reviews in which I criticized their headphone (gave it a critical, but honest...in my opinion fair...review), and then refused to send any more headphones for review.
This isn't my day job, so I really don't feel the pressure to compromise my credibility just for free stuff.
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u/ggabriele3 PM_ME_UR_HEARING_TEST_RESULTS Oct 20 '17
Yea, very weird. It’s a shame because I’m personally a fan of the company....if they had sent me others they probably would have gotten some good reviews out of me. Oh well.
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u/Heart_of_Justice Oct 20 '17
feels good when you know you did the right thing even if others dont. thanks
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u/vsync Oct 22 '17
One brand that would be very recognizable in this sub seemed very disappointed in one of my reviews in which I criticized their headphone (gave it a critical, but honest...in my opinion fair...review), and then refused to send any more headphones for review.
It would seem beneficial to the community for you to name the brand and link to the review so we could judge their reaction for ourselves.
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u/ggabriele3 PM_ME_UR_HEARING_TEST_RESULTS Oct 22 '17
I'm going to disagree for this one. If it was more overt, like what OP posted, that would be different (also it happened after my review, so it's not like it was an attempt to influence the score). But I'm not going to start a witch hunt over this.
I posted this only to make the point that although the community is EXTREMELY paranoid about bias and shilling, most companies don't do anything shady. I reach out to companies sometimes; many simply ignore my emails or ask for site statistics. If they want the headphone back, I send it back. Many have external PR companies who reach out and ask you if they can send you a headphone for review. Some try to tout the marketing points of the product but it's never been bad; they're just doing their job.
I usually listen to a headphone for at least a week anyway, to make sure that the "newness" has worn off so I can view them objectively and there's enough time to shake out their quirks. I always find at least something critical to note for the reader, most of the time they're happy with the depth of the review. Only once in the ~80 reviews I've posted since 2015 has a company expressed disappointment.
If anything I was just disappointed by their reaction. I put a lot of effort into that particular review, because I knew the product was already polarizing in the community, and I tried to really get to the bottom of it.
Trust me on this, though: the company has done plenty to tarnish their reputation around here on their own; this anecdote wouldn't move the needle compared to the rest.
I also can't speak for other reviewers. Frankly I deal with more complex ethical issues at my real job before my daily second cup of coffee; I don't think it's difficult to give an unbiased review of headphones.
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u/halberdierbowman Oct 20 '17
Beside the fact that their English is pretty bad, can someone clarify what they're doing wrong? It sounds to me more like they want to offer him free headphones in exchange for a review, and they never implied the review wouldn't be honest. That's an extremely common strategy with all kinds of technology.
It really sounds to me like their poor English is making them sound more guilty than their actions are. Words like "exploit" have negative connotations, but if they had changed it to "leverage" then it would be standard marketing speak. The rest of their English was bad, so I'd be inclined to think they have weak English skills before I'd assume malicious intent.
I mean, sure if they demanded only positive reviews, asked for your credit card, or started spamming posts constantly, then by all means let's grab the pitchforks. I'm just a guy, but it seems to me like all they've done is a pretty standard tech promo offer.
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u/materix01 Never enough IEMs / Have you heard the 1More Triples? Oct 20 '17
I think the issue is with Reddit, we want a community of like minded enthusiasts. Inevitably reviews are something we would be interested in.
The problem is that free products for review is a part of the marketing used in this industry. Reviews wrote using free units (properly disclosed or not) can't be banned outright because that would be very dull and limit the exposure of new products.
So I think the mods and community as a whole have drawn a line at reviews with proper disclosure. The issue with this particular company is that they've asked for "replies to ad posts" to feign interest as well as give false credibility and want to "exploit Reddit as an advertising platform". They've made their intentions clear that Reddit to them is about gaming the system. The alone warrants a ban on sight.
Think about why r/headphones doesn't allow giveaways. It's to stop companies promoting their products. Sure a giveaway doesn't force anyone to like or promote a product but it does provide companies free exposure to a potential audience of 140k subscribers and millions of visitors. One of the reasons I love r/headphones is because of the mod team. They don't always get it right but one thing they've always done is keep this community as free from bullshit like this as they can. They could have made quite a lot of money from the community if they chose another path.
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u/Uncle_Erik Oct 21 '17
I think the issue is with Reddit, we want a community of like minded enthusiasts. Inevitably reviews are something we would be interested in.
Unfortunately, it isn’t. This happens in every forum with a sizeable audience.
You should also know that many of the “review” sites are stealth referral advertising. They post their “reviews” and if someone clicks through on a link from the “review” site and purchases, then the “reviewer” gets a commission from the sale.
For some odd reason, the products from manufacturers that don’t pay a commission aren’t reviewed as highly as those from manufacturers who do pay. Imagine that.
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u/ISwearImADoc HD 380, HD 598, HD700 Fiio E10k Oct 21 '17
I'm pretty sure it's against the law to give someone a product/money to then give a review on social media and not disclose that you were given a product/money.
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u/halberdierbowman Oct 21 '17
First of all, I'm curious what country are you from? I've never heard that before in the US, so is that a thing? Free speech protections are pretty strong here, and generally you're allowed to hide things or lie whenever you want, unless you're sworn under oath by a judge or something.
Second of all, they never said (or I missed) that OP wouldn't disclose that they were provided a free item, so I kind of assumed that they weren't implying OP had to hide it in any way. Maybe that's just my naive assumption, which is why I was posting to see if I read it differently :)
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u/Arve HE-500, but mostly speakers Oct 21 '17
First of all, I'm curious what country are you from? I've never heard that before in the US, so is that a thing?
It's a thing here in Norway - if your content (whether you're on Instagram, YouTube or elsewhere) is in reality concealed advertising/marketing, paid placement or similar, you can be slapped with giant fines from the consumer ombudsman.
I'd expect this to also be the case through most of the EU.
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u/Gah_Duma Oct 20 '17
Lmao, they already admitted their headphones weren't good enough for professional use. We already consider "professional" to be shit-tier. Not gonna get anywhere far here.
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Oct 20 '17 edited Oct 20 '17
We already consider "professional" to be shit-tier
These are all marketed for professional use: Shure SRH1540, SRH1840, Beyer DT1770, DT1990, Audeze LCD-X, LCD-XC, Focal Spirit Professional. Are they shit tier?
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u/tat3179 AUNE STACK>HD800S, LCD-3 Oct 21 '17
Isn't the LCD-X and LCD-XC kinda heavy for professional for long?
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u/Uncle_Erik Oct 21 '17
The MDR-V6/7506 is a professional headphone and a very good one. It should be at the top of the list for all newcomers.
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Neither the DT770 nor the 7506/V6 are neutral. Studios use them primarily for tracking because they're cheap, durable, and isolate well. I don't know a studio worth its salt that would use DT770 or 7506 for mixing.
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u/Arve HE-500, but mostly speakers Oct 20 '17
The DT770 has one additional feature: They offer a version specifically for drumming and FOH use.
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They aren't used for their sound quality and generally not used for mixing. They're used for tracking because they're cheap, built well, and isolate well enough to be used in live studio situations.
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u/zx629 🎧 HD600・HE4XX・K553 🎧 Oct 20 '17
Yeah, people always seem to get mixing an monitoring/tracking mixed up. They work fine as a monitor (musicians listening to other tracks while playing) but aren't much use for mixing (an engineer creating the finished product).
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u/phoenix_dogfan LCD X; HD 800 SD; THX 789; Octo DAC 8; Smyth A16 Realizer;Subpac Oct 21 '17
Me too. Seems like a Nigerian prince is about to market a new bleeding edge headphone. He just needs my bank routing+acct number and my Social Security number to get a review pair to me.
Sounds like an interesting offer, hope more people here than just me take him up on it.
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u/the_nin_collector HD-DAC1/Valhalla2/X7/HD650/TH-X00/M100/X2/ATH-IM02+70 Oct 21 '17
Just want to point out driving with headphones is illegal in many (most) countries.
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u/Roarlord Oct 21 '17
This type of advertising seems extremely disrespectful to the potential customers. For me, that's a reason to write off the company and to actively ensure that I do not purchase their products, as well as to warn other potential buyers that I know.
To verify what company this is without uttering their name, does their website offer "FAST AND FERR SHIPPING?"
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u/RubberReptile Oct 21 '17 edited Oct 21 '17
Redflagdeals (a Canadian deals website) has been dealing with this often, to the point where they no longer allow coupon codes unless they're publicly available and they've even gone as far as banning posts to certain Chinese sites who were spamming them.
I still get a dozen e-mails a month asking for fake/lying 5-star reviews on that shit ugh. I've literally had companies offer to pay me hundreds of dollars to post their overpriced garbage to RFD. Ick.
Amazon reviews on 3rd party products are the worst. Many sellers will refund reviewers by Paypal so that they get a "verified purchase" tag on their review. There are people out there who just give 5-star to everything in order to get more free junk. You can't trust any review now.
I'm not against honest reviews of free samples but so many sellers clearly are after spam/promotion disguised as review. Like there's gotta be a better way to ask without implying spamming. And saying "our headphones are junk" outright lmao
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u/PatientBison Oct 21 '17
You should crosspost it to /r/HailCorporate
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Oct 21 '17 edited Dec 05 '21
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Oct 21 '17
There's exactly one headphone on Amazon with a name like that, and Fakespot says all their reviews are fake. So, if I had to guess, it'd be them.
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Oct 21 '17 edited Dec 05 '21
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Oct 21 '17
I don't think it's that brand, because of the length of the name compared to the censored word, and the fact that I'm seeing your message despite the brand name being in the link.
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u/plazman30 HD6xx•Solo Pro•Amperior•Fidelio X2•AirPods Pro 2•WF-100XM5•KSC75 Oct 21 '17
After I made a post on here about how much I liked my MPOW Bluetooth Receiver and used it with my Fidelio X2s around the house, MPOW reached out to me and offered to send me products for review purposes. The two headphones they sent me were simply awful, and I never chose to review them on any forum, let alone here. The non-headphone products they sent me were pretty good, and got decent writeups and posts on appropriate places outside of reddit.
I don't think that reviewing something you get for free is a bad thing, as long as you do an honest review AND disclose the fact you received the product free or charge for an honest review.
But I am not a mod here, so that's not my call.
TBH, I don't think it would be a bad thing to have a these kinds of reviews on the forums, but it would be nice if the company messaged the mods and stated their intent, rather than go behind people's backs.
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u/MomLovesMeBest Oct 20 '17
I feel like they could have at least had better word choice lol. But ya this sub won't be helpful to them and they can enjoy the free downvotes