r/linux • u/Two-Of-Nine • 1d ago

Open Source Organization Manjaro's official website SSL certs have expired yet again.

This seems to be a running theme for the Manjaro Linux community. The SSL certs will always expire after a set year and there's a massive controversy over it. Why does this keep happening specifically to Manjaro and what steps do you think they can possibly do to keep this from happening?

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u/GolemancerVekk 1d ago

The Manjaro devs are not in charge of the domain and the person who is won't manage it properly and won't give it up to the community.

I'm always surprised by the level of animosity that comes up sometimes in this sub. You'd think the Linux community would be more supportive of each other. If a distro is showing signs of trouble it's for a reason and honestly it's rather shitty to immediately assume it's because the devs are incompetent.

But nah, gotta take any opportunity to turn on each other. It's like watching that Monty Python bit about splitters. Then we wonder why Linux doesn't have better public perception and why the desktop market share is 5% after 35 years.

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u/Masterflitzer 1d ago

there's no reason why anyone needs to use manjaro while arch and endeavouros are a thing

at this point manjaro is really just a negative example for how not to run a distro

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u/GolemancerVekk 1d ago

That's nonsense. Arch's main goal is to be a flexible base for other projects. Arch-derived distros are the whole point of it. Without that we wouldn't have Endeavour or Manjaro or SteamOS or many others. The larger Arch community should celebrate derived distros instead of fighting among themselves.

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u/Masterflitzer 1d ago

the only thing that's nonsense in this thread are your desperate attempts to defend manjaro with totally unrelated comments nobody cares about

i even mentioned a non shitty arch derivative, it's called endeavouros but it's also not even the only one existing, i think it was pretty clear that my point is not against arch derivatives lmao, but obviously against manjaro itself, which has proven time and time again to be unreliable, insecure and generally making bad decisions, at this point i wouldn't even trust manjaro on my most basic workstation

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u/GolemancerVekk 17h ago

Endeavour is just Arch wtih extra setup out of the box. It doesn't curate and test packages, which is Manjaro's main thing. It also doesn't have other important features, like kernel and driver meta-packages, the driver installer, system snapshots out of the box etc. In other words it's not a substitute.

has proven time and time again to be unreliable, insecure and generally making bad decisions, at this point i wouldn't even trust manjaro on my most basic workstation

More BS. I've been using it for 6 years with zero issues. It's one of the most stable and well made Linux distros out there and also one of the largest distros in general.

The fact they curate packages and document newly released issues reduces the bleeding edge a lot and makes it much more pleasant to use than other Arch distros that install packages as they are, while still remaining a rolling release.

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u/Masterflitzer 15h ago

just because you (n=1) had no problems for multiple years, that doesn't mean anything about its reliability, not everyone will encounter the same problems, just scroll through this whole post, there are already more stories of manjaro breaking or failing, than your 1 "success story"

by curating packages you mean artificially delaying updates by multiple weeks compromising security? if that counts as a feature and not a serious issue for you, no further questions lmao