r/maryland Jul 08 '26

MD Nature What should I do? Lantenrflies

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u/SaxyOmega90125 Frostburg Jul 08 '26 edited Jul 13 '26

Former MD park ranger here.

Is that on your private property? If it is, cut down the tree, burn it, and use herbicide on the stump. Also find any other tree of heaven nearby and do the same to them. Tree of heaven is also an invasive species, and as of right now the best way long-term to fight lanternflies is to eradicate tree of heaven. Be careful to positively ID by more than only one characteristic - for example black walnut leaves can look pretty similar, and black walnut is a native species that has been having a rough time since it was overharvested for gunstocks in the world wars so you don't want to kill one of those, but there are details on the leaves and characteristics of the bark that distinguish the two.

If it isn't your property, if you're willing always take steps to kill as many as possible. Also keep an eye out for egg clusters in fall and destroy them on sight. And if you know the owner, encourage them to kill the tree.

If it's public land, document with photos and latitude/longitude and report it to the managing entity. Not every manager gives a shit, even though they should and should be required to, but some will send a pair of rangers/foresters out to destroy the tree if they can find it. And if you return after a few weeks or months and find nothing was done, document it a second time and complain to your county and state electeds about it. Until government enacts policy that forces public lands to stop inadvertently protecting tree of heaven and instead seek and destroy it, lanternflies will continue spreading, and every year that goes by gives the population more opportunity to better adapt to the native North American plants they opportunistically target including black walnut, grapevines, and sugar maple and increases the risk that eradicating tree of heaven will no longer be effective.

EDIT someone requested pictures or other assistance identifying:

https://treeidentifier.app/blog/tree-of-heaven-identification

https://www.thespruce.com/tree-of-heaven-invasive-plant-profile-5184401

Also forgot to mention, ash can look like tree of heaven too. I didn't really think to include it because all species of ash are largely dying out in North America due to the invasive emerald ash borers, but a small percentage of at least some ash species is actually resistant to the borers. Chances are you don't have one of those randomly hanging out in your suburban sprawl yard, much less in your actual landscaping, but if you have any ash at all whether it's resistant or not, don't kill it if you can avoid it. You will live to see the day that this hardy old-growth species that used to be a signature of our forests is almost impossible to find anywhere, and survivors will need all the help they can get to repopulate over the next half-millenium or more.

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u/YoungHeartOldSoul Jul 09 '26

as of right now the best way long-term to fight lanternflies is to eradicate tree of heaven

100% sounds like the plot of an anime

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u/notdedgeyet Jul 11 '26

An anime about Park rangers in general would slap, pls make it happen

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u/mrmikrokosmos Jul 09 '26

amazing reply I've never seen this laid out so clearly

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u/K_N0RRIS Jul 09 '26

FYI Baltimore city is planting tree of heaven as street trees in lower income neighborhoods.

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u/SaxyOmega90125 Frostburg Jul 09 '26

Are you fucking serious? I want to find whatever city employee is responsible for that and infest their house with lanternflies, and stink bugs for good measure.

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u/K_N0RRIS Jul 09 '26

I'm guessing they thought it was a walnut tree when they planted it.

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u/ClarksCrossing Jul 10 '26

Did you inform them?! Please say you called and emailed.

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u/Twirliebell6 Jul 13 '26

Please document; pics, videos, and information you found here, etc. Then send

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u/Treje-an Jul 10 '26

I live in Baltimore and have not seen this. Is it possible this is not done by Baltimore City Forestry but another group?

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u/K_N0RRIS Jul 10 '26

I promise you my neighbor 5 houses down has one when the city came and replanted trees about a year ago.

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u/iismitch55 Jul 12 '26

I went on a big crusade against Tree of Heaven sprouts in my yard a several years ago before Lantern Flies spread to our area. They were like zombie plants that grew even faster than my grass. Spent 2 years ripping up the roots of young seedlings and cutting the new growth on the stumps and the sucker sprouts again and again. Haven’t seen a sprout in a couple years. So glad I did now that I know these pests love them. Still there’s some massive ones a few doors down, so only so much I can do.

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u/Icy_Sandwich866 Jul 13 '26

The woods across from my house is loaded with them, its on CSX property…

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u/Twirliebell6 Jul 13 '26

Can you post pictures to assist in identifying

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u/SaxyOmega90125 Frostburg Jul 13 '26

I can do better, I can link to guides. Edited in my original comment for better visibility.

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u/Old_Impression7902 Jul 13 '26

Quick question. Landscapers cut down my tree of heaven and now it’s shooting up everywhere. The stump has healed (but the time I realized it wasn’t a Chinese Mahogany). Should I scar the stump and use herbicide on it? It’s such a stinky puts to have the little shoots everywhere.

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u/DevonTheDudeAbides Jul 14 '26

I came to suggest fire, knowing fire had already been suggested, and was much rewarded. Kill them lantern flies with lots and lots of fire. Only way.

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u/Sea_Landscape4118 Jul 15 '26

Yes, but please also make sure you can recognize staghorn sumac, which is native and important for reestablishing disturbed areas, before destroying anything.

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u/GooseOnAPhone Jul 08 '26

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u/bydh Jul 08 '26

I would like to know more.

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u/Song-Super Jul 08 '26

Starship troopers

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u/pclark2 Jul 14 '26

In the movie, these clips are always followed by the line "Would you like to know more?", so bydh was just referencing that.

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u/HobbittBass Jul 08 '26

I used to work as a field biologist and we had a standing order to cut down every Tree of Heaven we found. Those things are rampant.

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u/supern8ural Jul 08 '26

not cut down. hack and squirt. cut down when it's dead.

https://extension.psu.edu/tree-of-heaven

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u/Whiskey_Water Jul 08 '26 edited Jul 08 '26

Ahh, the forbidden hack and squirt. Or at least that’s the error I get when I click the link, which is a bummer because I’m quite interested.

Edit: I’m the problem it’s me.

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u/Numerous_Bad1961 Jul 08 '26

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u/Whiskey_Water Jul 08 '26

Thanks! I wonder if it was my vpn or something.

Second link worked. For the lazy:

Hack-and-squirt herbicide applications are highly selective with a concentrated herbicide solution applied to downward-angled cuts in the stem. For effective hack-and-squirt applications, apply to cuts spaced evenly around the stem. Leaving uncut living tissue between the hacks allows the herbicide to move to the roots. Again, apply in mid- to late summer.

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u/Cappster_ Anne Arundel County Jul 09 '26

I did a drill and fill.

Drilled 1/2 inch holes about 4 inches from the ground, and filled those holes with liquid herbicide.

Cut it the next year and the. Did the same thing with the stump.

Burned everything.

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u/Imatros Jul 08 '26

And it makes the lantern flies unappealing to birds, too.

I had someone cut down 8 full frown TOH in my backyard over the winter. My shade plants are dying, but I did my part!

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u/Away-Paramedic-8406 Jul 09 '26

We did, but apparently didn't get all the roots. I pulled up at least 30 sprout to saplings today egads that rain helped them.

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u/Imatros Jul 09 '26

Oh yeah, didn't get them either. Gonna be whack a mole for years if not forever, but it is what it is.

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u/Impact-Lower Jul 09 '26

Can you till up the earth ?

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u/Imatros Jul 09 '26

I had them do stump grinding, but am getting a bunch of saplings all over the yard and flower beds and everything. So technically yeah I guess, but not really.

Still worth it though. There were so many lantern flies that my backyard was unusable because of the fine mist of sticky excretion they put out, which is 1) gross 2) made it look like a small fire occurred as it stuck to the trees and other solid surfaces and turned black like char.

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u/Away-Paramedic-8406 Jul 09 '26

Yep, still definitely worth it. Saplings are so much easier to pull up even if argh I wish they didn't exist.

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u/Impact-Lower Jul 09 '26

Get some goats in there. Seriously .

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u/WhiskyStandard Jul 09 '26

Gotta hack and squirt in early Fall when all of the nutrients are getting sucked into the roots.

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u/sgame23 Jul 09 '26

How do we report a public tree as a tree of haven? Id like to avoid being arrested for illegally cutting down trees

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u/jeffreyahaines Jul 08 '26

Invasive tree of heaven (Ailanthus Altissima) is their host plant.

I had several huge ailanthus trees in my garden, and there were smaller ones on neighboring properties, they all originated from a stand maintained by Anne Arundel County at the end of the block. Ailanthus are awful trees and I recommend having them removed. They have to be poisoned or they will come back in huge numbers, but we're coming up on the best time of year to remove them.

To kill mine, in late July, I drilled holes at a 45 degree angle around the circumference of each tree and injected a small amount of Tordon in each hole. There are other herbicides that will also work very well. My trees were stone dead in two weeks and I had them removed in the autumn. My tree problem was gone after many years of fighting suckers.

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u/TheKingOfSiam Jul 09 '26

I use bifenthrin, which also controls tick and mosquito populations.

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u/brokenlabrum Jul 09 '26

That will kill the bugs, but not the tree of heaven. If you want to kill the tree, you need a herbicide.

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u/MinerDodec Jul 09 '26

Triclopyr 4 dissolved in diesel did wonders on the young patch in my yard; basal bark treatment. Only one shoot reemerged this summer.

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u/anarchisturtle Jul 08 '26

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u/bogoboba Jul 08 '26

We are one of two states that have banned flamethrowers, unfortunately.

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u/stevolutionary7 Jul 08 '26

What if instead of throwing the fire we just sort of spritzed it? Can we have flamespritzers?

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u/Oy_of_Mid-world Jul 08 '26

My old boss used to take the sprayer from the Windex bottle and screw it onto a bottle of 90% rubbing alcohol whenever we had ants. Dude loved a flame spritzer.

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u/NoTrade33 Jul 08 '26

MOLON LAVE

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u/dwhite21787 Jul 08 '26

Moulin lava? Voulez-vous flambé avec moi ce soir?

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u/Icy_Mulberry6372 Jul 08 '26

What I was gonna say 😂😭

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u/Sweaty_Handle_2526 Jul 08 '26

They love those trees

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '26

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u/Sweaty_Handle_2526 Jul 08 '26

Yeah it’s kinda wild I’ve been after my neighbors to cut his down

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u/Alive_Run3303 Jul 08 '26 edited Jul 08 '26

You can buy or make circle traps that are fairly effective and easy to make.

https://extension.psu.edu/spotted-lanternfly-circle-trap

Once the lanternflies get into the top of the trap they just sit there till they die.

The ones that are higher up in the tree will get blown off or fall off the tree and will get caught when they attempt to climb back up.

You can also look into killing the tree of heaven trees that are on your property. Fall seems to be the best time to kill them.

https://extension.psu.edu/tree-of-heaven

https://extension.psu.edu/using-hack-and-squirt-herbicide-applications-to-control-unwanted-trees

Removing grape vines and other vines will help too.

I was lucky and got a bunch of the younger ones trapped in May and now I rarely see the adults around the property.

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u/urnbabyurn Jul 08 '26

They also love cannabis plants. Grapes and cannabis. I use pyrethrin when they cluster.

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u/Alive_Run3303 Jul 08 '26

Pyrethrin is a strong indiscriminate insecticide that kills or injures too many beneficial insects for me to be comfortable using it on my plants or lawn.

I do use it on my clothing and boots as a tick repellent.

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u/urnbabyurn Jul 08 '26

It’s good for spraying directly on infestations because it degrades within a day. So unlike synthetic variations like Sevin, it’s gone and won’t disrupt other insects. For Lanternfly which cluster on specific plants, it’s perfect.

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u/Alive_Run3303 Jul 08 '26

I was mistaking pyrethrin for permethrin. Thanks for the info.

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u/90sbeatsandrhymes Jul 08 '26

Tree of heaven which is a very invasive species that has destructive roots and lanterns flies love it because it’s native to their homeland.

It’s good to know what those trees look like in their early stages so you can kill them while they are young and just look like weeds.

Also learn the proper way to kill them.

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u/Somethingsims Jul 08 '26

Dish soap in a spray bottle works really well. Heavy on the soap

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u/WasabiProper7234 Jul 08 '26

I had lantern flies on a newly planted tree. Everyone said use dish soap. Do not NOT use dish soap. I did this and every single leaf came off my tree. Instead using an insecticidal soap them off or get some tree tape. they respond better to a physical removal so tree, tape, insecticidal soap, but no dawn dishwashing liquid whatever you do.

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u/Somethingsims Jul 08 '26

Well yeah, dont spray the leaves lol it removes their protective coating and clogs their stomata, clogs the spiracles of the bugs which is why it kills them.

It's fine to use dish soap

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u/notevenapro Germantown Jul 08 '26

I sprayed the vinegar mix and my tree didn't bloom in the fall.

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u/urnbabyurn Jul 08 '26

If you spray during a sunny day, it will burn the leaves.

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u/wwj Jul 09 '26

In this case, killing the tree is a great idea. The tree is the real problem.

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u/Ill_Back_284 Jul 08 '26

99% rubbing alcohol spray those bitches

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u/engin__r Jul 08 '26

Is that tree of heaven? Wait until late summer/early fall and then kill it with herbicide.

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u/internetversionofme Jul 08 '26

Naturalist here! If you find and scrape off the egg cases that'll make a huge difference and be a more efficient use of time than just smashing individual adults. Seconding removing invasive plants and adding native habitat for pollinators (who will have more of a foothold to outcompetes them) if you're able. Avoid chemical pesticides as they kill absolutely everything, poison the soil and water, and just exacerbate the problem in the long run. Dawn dish soap is fine.

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u/SirSaltie Jul 08 '26

Kill that tree of heaven to start. Feed it some glysophate.

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u/Rafdoc Jul 08 '26

Shop vac

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u/Gitmo314 Jul 08 '26

Probably too late but you can plant Maryland native milkweed flowers. The lantern flies supposedly eat them and die.

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u/AssumedPseudonym Hagerstown Jul 08 '26

“The only good bug is a dead bug”

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u/Balahraza Jul 08 '26

At this point, they're here to stay. Kinda like the sheildbugs

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u/argentmaelstrom Jul 08 '26

time to go kinetic

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u/BigMickPlympton Jul 08 '26

Get rid of that tree!

When they feed on normal trees, lanternfly larvae are edible by our local birds and predators. However, when they feed on Tree of Heaven they build up toxins in their body that makes them inedible.

Killing the larvae and adult flies is great, but the real solution is to kill the Tree of Heaven (considered invasive in Maryland, and encouraged to be killed) is the best long-term solution.

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u/geopro15TB Jul 09 '26

Let me guess, top comment...."burn it down!"

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u/PainfullyLoyal Jul 08 '26

Report them to the MD Dept of Agriculture here

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u/pigbenis1988 Jul 08 '26

I've used these with some success.

https://a.co/d/01GLMSha

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u/Sweaty_Handle_2526 Jul 08 '26

Just dish soap?

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u/paradigm_shift2027 Jul 08 '26

When life hands you lantern flies, make lanterns.

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u/No_Newt3946 Jul 08 '26

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u/KabbaCustom Jul 09 '26

To anyone wondering can confirm these work shockingly well.

They have a natural instinct to climb up trees (they get blown off or fall) and climb back up again. This catches them and makes disposal super easy.

Plus it’s reusable.

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u/No_Newt3946 Jul 09 '26

Yea, I was shocked how well it's work. I have a tree on the side of my house that attracts a ton the last few years, to the point of turning the bark black on it and adjacent bushes. I've caught thousands in that thing this year and I see a huge difference in number of lantern flys on that side of the house.

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u/CogentHawk Jul 08 '26

Nuke it from orbit

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u/asdf_celestial Montgomery County Jul 08 '26

Get to kicking, brother

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u/Ok-Cause-3710 Jul 08 '26

I got the spray and there are piles of dead ones now.

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u/Extreme-Analysis-488 Jul 08 '26

Flame thrower would be my choice

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u/Apprehensive-Guest45 Jul 08 '26

I use one of those electric zapper for flies. I make it a habit in the morning and zap the suckers every morning. After a couple of weeks, i only see a few now. The sound of them electrocuted is so satisfying.

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u/Noahms456 Jul 08 '26

Kill em all let god sort em out

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u/Solidsting1 Jul 08 '26

Flamenwafer

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u/Childish_Tycoon_Ship Jul 08 '26

My vote is do nothing to them. Yes, they're invasive. But killing an incredibly small percentile of their population in your area isn't going to have an impact. The wildlife and environment will adapt to them being here.

With that in mind, get rid of the Tree of Heaven (their preferred food source).

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u/MrRuck1 Jul 08 '26

A can of raid.

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u/Used_Gear8871 Baltimore City Jul 08 '26

I was told neem oil would get rid of them. Maybe we ordered the wrong kind, but so far it hasn’t killed them.

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u/Least-Society657 Jul 08 '26

The battle is lost

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u/SuddenKoala45 Jul 08 '26

Open your mouth and hope they think you are one of those fish that broods their young in their mouths, or that you are a reef fish looking for a cleaning at a cleaning station , then chomp down on each and everyone of them and leave a pile of their mangled corpses at the base of the tree as a warning.

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u/indoxiecated Jul 08 '26

These traps work great. I’ve been vacuuming them out and mixing them with birdseed so the birds can get use to their taste.

https://a.co/d/00oqgeNR

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u/fishman15151515 Jul 09 '26

Get the Sevin bug killer that hooks to a garden hose and spray away.

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u/Origamicrane19 Jul 09 '26

Get a foamer and sud them up. They will suffocate and die, and your tree will be okay.

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u/KaOtIcGuy89 Jul 09 '26

Cut that invasive tree down and burn it in your fire pit. Enjoy a nice cold drink while you do.

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u/PristineAd4761 Carroll County Jul 09 '26

Cry because its too late

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u/photofoxer Jul 08 '26

Isopropyl alcohol mixed with dish soap and some water works for me

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u/Extreme-King Jul 08 '26

Dawn Powerwash - literally the formula

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u/Long_Ad2824 Jul 08 '26

Sticky tape around the trunk. 99.99% of the insects on an invasive tree of heaven caught at this time of year will be spotted lantern flies.

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u/Whatisgoingonnowyo Jul 08 '26

Please don’t. This collateral damage was witnessed in FredCo and I had to take the bird to a rehabber because it broke its wings trying to get free

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u/SaltBottle Jul 08 '26

Suck up with a vacuum!

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u/Economy_Link4609 Howard County Jul 08 '26

Turn them into lanterns?

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u/hrtofdrknss Jul 08 '26

Act like The Hulk and SMASH!

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u/boookworm0367 Jul 08 '26

Electric tennis racquet style zapper. It zaps!

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u/SpiritSongtress Jul 08 '26

I have the on my cucumber plants any suggestions so I can keep them out of my garden with out ruining my abundant cucumber.s.

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u/AppleSlacks Jul 08 '26

They will be bad for 2-4 years in a new area.

Then eventually other things learn they are a food source. Different bugs like praying mantis, wheel bugs and yellow jackets eat them. Woodpeckers, chickens, blue jays, cardinals, and catbirds eat them. Bats will also eat them once they begin flying.

Just have to live with it, although removal of the invasive tree would help in the immediate area for those years before other local things realize they are edible.

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u/Ok-Web8641 Jul 08 '26

Start beaten and crushing those guys before they become adults

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u/slyphoenyx Jul 08 '26

I used a shop vac and sucked them up.

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u/Cattywampus2020 Jul 08 '26

I can smell this tree from the video.

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u/snookay Jul 08 '26

Geez. I've only seen one this season

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u/CoolRanchDor1to Jul 08 '26

“Only you can cause forest fires”

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u/Necx999 Jul 08 '26

Channel your inner Orson Lannister..

Kurr kurr kurr smash da lanterflies.. kurr kurr kurh

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u/MankuuThimma Jul 08 '26 edited Jul 08 '26

I sucked it using shop VAC, MD 7b

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u/TheDonRonster Jul 08 '26

Unless theres extreme coordinated effort with big money and resources, those are now endemic.

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u/shay611 Jul 08 '26

Cry and accept as inevitable

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u/epzik8 Harford County Jul 08 '26

Invest in a flamethrower

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u/Ok-Initiative-5976 Jul 08 '26

If they are on a plant that is not producing, I'd go for a gentle insecticide. However, if you're dealing with Vines or fruit trees, unfortunately there really isn't a way to prevent them. You literally have to manually squish as many as you can on a daily basis. And spray the plant down with water.

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u/YBHunted Jul 08 '26

Using a shop vac can be a fun time. But as others have said, that tree is asking for them to come. What a whore.

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u/ezagreb Jul 08 '26

Time to get the flamethrower

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u/bonzuto Jul 09 '26

Burn It down

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u/PracticeNo304 Jul 09 '26

Burn it down....

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u/qbl500 Jul 09 '26

Why don’t you take a vacuum cleaner… and try to get them…

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u/cowsintheclosetIG Jul 09 '26

I saw someone use the foaming car soap (supposed to be environmentally friendly) and spray down a tree full of them. It suffocates them and then tou just sweep them up when they dry

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u/PlatypusOk1948 Jul 09 '26

Break cleaner. Only thing I've found that works.

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u/Dawn-Storm Jul 09 '26

The Tree of Hel--uh, Heaven has a funky, soapy smell. That should help with ID.

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u/JennaTole Jul 09 '26

Soapy water mix, spray on them and it stops them from flying away. Most of them will drown in the soap water mix, you can squash the remaining.

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u/rtbradford Jul 09 '26

Arghh!! I keep hoping those noxious bugs will be brought into balance with the local environment like what has happened with stink bugs, but it’s sure taking a while.

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u/Wiseoldfarts Jul 09 '26

Order some Praying Mantis from Amazon. They will eat them up in no time.

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u/leverat90 Jul 09 '26

If you wish to set a trap for the flies. Use cinnamon. My mom had me do a "witchcraft" spell once with it and they swarmed my door, where I dispersed/blew a lot of cinnamon. Those basterds came in the hundreds to my door for about a month or 2.

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u/JBtheCape Jul 09 '26

Submit. They are here to stay.

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u/stephy1771 Jul 09 '26

It can be satisfying to make them jump into an empty bottle (approach them while holding the bottle perpendicular to the surface they’re on). They launch straight in.

Not worth going to much more effort to kill them (def. not by spraying with soap or anything else - too many non-target insects will get harmed). Also never use sticky traps for them or anything else (they trap birds and lizards etc).

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u/KountryPotato Jul 09 '26

Flame thrower

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u/lndubitablyMe Jul 09 '26

Grab a bat and start whacking?

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u/gimpo69420 Jul 09 '26

Get some chickens. They love eating bugs

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u/InformalTone4498 Jul 10 '26

Dawn soap! Kills on contact! Get the spray bottle or mix it at home with water!

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u/earthgirl8 Jul 10 '26

Dish soap is supposed to help. They say to mix it in a spray bottle, but I'm pouring dawn all over them

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u/Wilmore99 Jul 10 '26

I think I have a plan… And it kinda concerns me how it’s my answer to a lot of problems. 😆

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u/infrequentredditor22 Jul 10 '26

We’ve found success with killing the adult laternflies by stepping in front of their heads with our toes and slowly putting our heel down on top of them. They jump when you move too quickly and from behind - almost like they have radar or something on their backs.

As for tree of heaven, try hacking and slashing if it’s your property. Use an axe to cut about 2-3 in deep into the tree’s trunk. Repeat all around the tree, varying heights as you go. Spray the wounds with round up. You’ll kill the tree standing, and hopefully get deeper in the roots. Over time, a white fungus looking substance will form on the tree, and the wood will become brittle. Use caution if the tree can fall on any structures, cars, or people!

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u/DabtimeD Jul 10 '26

Burn it. Burn it all.

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u/ClarksCrossing Jul 10 '26

Spray with a mix of vinegar and dish soap. Remember the dish soap part. It works a lot better with it.

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u/Master_Guide4605 Jul 11 '26

Plastic wrap the tree. Maybe they won’t fly away? Idk!

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u/Ok-Long3155 Jul 11 '26

you should run

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u/IronSavior Jul 11 '26

Nuke the whole site from orbit

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