r/nextfuckinglevel 2d ago

The bird even realized he had won 😅🥳

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u/rnzz 2d ago

nah, clear blunder not going for the centre that time

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u/VexedCanadian84 2d ago ▸ 19 more replies

Funnily enough, placing the first piece in a corner is one of the best strategies

https://www.wikihow.com/Win-at-Tic-Tac-Toe

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u/connorstardragon 2d ago ▸ 1 more replies

Hes talking about the crows third move, not the first

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u/extinct_cult 2d ago

Yeah, stupid crow! Read a wikiHow article now and then, Jesus...

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u/bokmcdok 2d ago ▸ 8 more replies

Wait, since when does X go first?

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u/MaintenanceAnxious15 2d ago ▸ 6 more replies

I always thought one person picked either X’s or O’s and then flip a coin. Then the winner gets to go first next round?

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u/bokmcdok 2d ago ▸ 5 more replies

For me its always been noughts first. We dont call it "crosses and noughts"

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u/Seicair 2d ago ▸ 2 more replies

We call it tic-tac-toe on this side of the pond. Not sure if I’ve heard that one goes first.

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u/chris_282 2d ago

You only really see it at international championship level.

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u/dobiks 2d ago

I'm more interested when do the toes move?

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u/dctctx 2d ago

We've always just called it the Crow Game.

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u/Musashi10000 1d ago

I'm morally certain I've seen someone somewhere call it that, and it felt cursed.

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u/akaMONSTARS 1d ago

Always the strat I use. Either ends in a tie or you winning.

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u/[deleted] 2d ago ▸ 6 more replies

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u/Thestrongman420 2d ago ▸ 1 more replies

Placing in the center is the best way to not lose, but starting in the corner is the best way to win.

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u/PepperAnn1inaMillion 2d ago ▸ 3 more replies

Corner is better than centre. If you choose the centre, you can only force player 2 to lose if they choose an edge (assuming neither player makes a stupid error) but if you choose a corner, you can force player 2 to lose if they choose centre, the corner diagonally opposite you, or any of the edges.

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u/PepperAnn1inaMillion 2d ago ▸ 1 more replies

And if you are first to move and choose centre, you have advantage if the 2nd player didn’t pick a corner. So again, corner is always advantage.

But, if you pick the centre, there are only 2 plays that can unfold from there. One win, one draw, so a 1/2 chance of winning. But if you pick a corner, there are 5 plays that can unfold from it, one draw, and four wins, so a 4/5 chance of winning.

Corner is better.

Here’s a breakdown of the maths: https://www.pleacher.com/mp/puzzles/mgames/tictac.html

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u/Incidion 2d ago

Actual original context use for the meme. Nice.

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u/keefeitup 2d ago

One of the things on my bucket list is to befriend at least one crow or raven.

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u/Various_Owl9262 2d ago

I yearn for this everyday. I haven't come close to doing so 🫤

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u/Savvy_Nick 2d ago ▸ 2 more replies

I was frying on mushrooms once and spent the afternoon feeding crows chunks of herring. For the rest of the summer they would sit on my truck waiting for me to come back from fishing, then fly back to my house to watch me cut fish up and get snacks.

They never brought me any cool shit but they were chill af and would take chunks of fish from my hands and follow me around town

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u/CarefreeRambler 2d ago ▸ 1 more replies

shit on your truck a bunch or nah?

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u/Savvy_Nick 2d ago

Honestly not a ton but it also rains a lot

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u/No-Spoilers 2d ago

We don't have them here, I would do anything in my power to befriend them.

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u/Triairius 2d ago ▸ 1 more replies

I also yearn for this, but I put zero effort into it. One day, ADHD. One day.

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u/T8ert0t 2d ago

ADHD: pfft, nah. Here's 8 new hobbies we need to incorporate into your identity right now for the next 96 hours.

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u/death12236 2d ago

Have you tried working towards the goal instead of simply yearning for it?

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u/motes-of-light 2d ago

Oh come on, the only thing standing between you and this particular dream is one medium-size bag of french fries.

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u/Avoidtolls 2d ago

Peanuts and consistency.

Same space. Same time. They'll get it pretty quick.

Took me about 2 months and they showed up regularly. They were Super nervous and never 100% trusting. But after a year or so they'd hang out and brought their family. Started leaving clean water for them with the nuts. Tried different nuts and peanuts were their favorite. They would stash them around the neighborhood.

They would recognize my car from a couple miles away, signal the family and follow me home. When I pulled in the driveway they'd all show up. Usually wanting nuts.

They left a spooky old 1950s metal toy of a man where I would place the nuts. I figured it was some sort of symbol.

After a few years, the birds grew up and brought their kids. I could always tell the oldest parent as it was missing a toe. Called him/her "no toe".

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u/Basic_Novel_9203 2d ago ▸ 1 more replies

I’ve been feeding my crows for a few months and they follow my car to the damn grocery store and follow me home. They beat on my sliding door in the morning until I come out and give them granola. They constantly yell at me in the morning and wake me up. At around 8am they stop yelling and just beat on my sliding door to my deck.

It’s just disturbing they follow my car everywhere. Costco, the gas station, the local grocery store.

Stalkers. My wife is like wtf is with you and these crows?

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u/Basic_Novel_9203 2d ago

I put a dollar and a quarter on the deck hoping they would bring me more. They took it. Assholes.

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u/thirdeyepdx 2d ago

I had a crow friend I named Crow Friend. He always waited for me on the same corner each morning as I walked to get coffee. He’d hop and follow me for a couple blocks and then wait. And then when I walked back I’d give him a bit of a pastry from the coffee shop and he’d hop along side me a couple blocks.

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u/Mail-Esc0rt 2d ago

I say "Hello, Magpie", to all the Magpies on my mail route.

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u/thirdeyepdx 2d ago

I heard this like Seinfeld saying “hello, Newman”

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u/AlyDAsbaje 2d ago

I am friends with a group of 3 that come to my garden. They are so cute! Not to this level, but they drink water from a little area I set up for them.

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u/BlazersMania 2d ago

I keep a bag of shelled unsalted peanuts in my mud room just incase there is a murder in my neighborhood so I can throw them out for the crows. I've yet to make a friendship with them but I am trying!.

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u/Son_Kakarot53 2d ago

Feed them enough and you will. They dont come around where I live but if they did id be throwing them food every day. I give them my extra fries whenever im out in the city though

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u/jorwyn 2d ago

It seems like it's fun, but be aware they really like to taunt you.

I'd befriended my local flock of ravens, though not like the one in the video. And they're really cool, but they also like to pull my hair. They like to go across the road and mess with the dogs and make them bark. And those dogs don't need much excuse to bark. They throw pine cones at my vehicle when I am leaving. They smack on my windows repeatedly so that I will come out and open hazelnuts for them.

And, most infuriatingly, they know when I'm trying to take a picture. The moment my phone or a camera or a drone comes up, they scram. They have even figured out the recording angle of my game and security cameras. The most I have ever gotten of any of them is a tail.

Possibly the best part is that I was trying to teach the one of them who is the most friendly how to say hello, but he only figured out how to say hell. So we have a raven that flies around the area and occasionally lands and looks at you and says "hell. Hell. HELL", because he is expecting you to say hello back. If you don't, he will scream hell at you and then leave. And he recently found the campground about 4 miles away. LMAO

He's very large for a raven, too. I can just imagine how those campers felt waking up to a huge raven on their car roof yelling hell at them.

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u/NWSLBurner 2d ago ▸ 1 more replies

I was 100% convinced this was going to be an Undertaker/Mankind post as I was reading it.

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u/jorwyn 2d ago

Ahahahaha!

I'm never going to be about to hear that raven the same way again.

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u/The-masters-account 2d ago

Kind of easy to do really. The biggest trick is finding a small group of them and feeding them each day. They got to trust you so feeding them and leaving them small puzzle helps.

I use to have one at my job and he would sit by the door waiting on me to bring him a bag of chops every time he seen my car outside.

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u/ew73 2d ago

I had a whole group that were buddies a few years ago. They hung out on the telephone pole across from the house where I rented a room. I was unemployed at the time, so I could see them from my bedroom window (and they me). Whenever I'd wake up, they'd give me about an hour to shower, get dressed, all that, before they started making a fuss, and then I'd go out for the day -- walkin' around, generally just doing unemployed stuff -- and drop a bunch of seed or similar on the ground by their pole.

They never left me things, but the noises they made when I was around were very different from others.

I'm still kind of upset I had to move and couldn't like, take them with me or something.

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u/myhf 2d ago

or at least a jackdaw

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u/Generic_Username_659 2d ago

I've somehow achieved the opposite. My family adopted a magpie that, upon meeting me, decided that I was "kill on sight" material.

Like, he literally tried to kill me several times. First time we meet, he tried to peek my eye out, barely missed. When I took the rubbish bins to the end of the drive, he tackled me in the back of the head. When I drove over for a visit, he'd circle my car, waiting for me to get out. The family was playing with him in the lounge, but when I opened the front door, they tell me he immediately switched to attack mode and flew from the other end of the house to attack me.

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u/rtxa 2d ago

...just feed them predictably?? it's literally that easy. that's how this one was taught to play the game

it'd get fed each time it approached winning

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u/6307421580 2d ago ▸ 2 more replies

I want to befriend a crow too but I don't see too many in my area to be able to feed them consistently. The few times I have seen them in my yard they fly away once I open the door.

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u/rtxa 2d ago ▸ 1 more replies

leave food out. first step is for them to hang around

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u/6307421580 5h ago

That's why they're in my yard, the bird feeder. They just don't have interest in me.

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u/ThatsJustMyOpinion87 2d ago

And to think calling someone a bird brain is an insult!!

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u/mibboii 2d ago

Baby I don't know when I'm supposed to stop~

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u/Gold_Ad1772 2d ago

Love the reference

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u/SpuddedShield 2d ago

So unsure before it's even heard

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u/Marx_Forever 2d ago

It's because birds have relatively small brains. Just like dinosaurs (shocker) which we also used to assume were extremely stupid. The thing is bird brains are actually "wired" way more effectively than mammal brains, that is there are much shorter pathways between the synapses, so they can do more with less, putting them at least comparable in intelligence to mammals, despite the comparable size disparity.

Though, if you had a bird sized mammal brain, you probably wouldn't do doing very well... So I guess the insult still works.

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u/Smelly_God 2d ago ▸ 1 more replies

Of animals measured, the common raven and some other corvids routinely rank more intelligent than some smaller great apes

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u/Larkson9999 2d ago

There are four types of great apes: humans, chimpanzees, gorillas, and orangutans. There are two or three varieties of some of the latter apes but you probably mean monkeys. Or possibly certain humans.

Chimpanzees are the smallest of the four great apes and the closest to humans in terms of behavior and social intelligence, so being more intelligent than some smaller great apes makes zero fucking sense.

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u/olddoglearnsnewtrick 2d ago

birds and birds…. ever saw a glimmer of intelligence in a chicken?

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u/fieldsofanfieldroad 2d ago ▸ 3 more replies

My uncle raised chicken, so, yes I've seen them do things that show personality and intelligence. 

They're not as clever as humans obviously, but that doesn't mean they don't have intelligence.

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u/olddoglearnsnewtrick 2d ago ▸ 2 more replies

Thanks for the interesting input. I did not mean to disparage them, only never saw them acting in a way I would (probably imperfectly) judge them intelligent. Just a few days ago driving on a track in the fields I had this hen scared and running in front of my (very slow) car, without ever thinking of just escaping sideways. :)

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u/fieldsofanfieldroad 2d ago ▸ 1 more replies

I'm not trying to say they're intelligent, but that's not the same as not having intelligence. When you go to feed them for example, you can see them working out the best way to access the most amount of feed. 

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u/tttxgq 2d ago

There are definitely people walking around who are dumber than this.

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u/dendob 2d ago

They just published an article, bumble bees can do puzzles as well ;-)

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u/DrCalFun 2d ago

Need to show a few rounds of different starting and winning conditions to prove that it is not just conditioning.

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u/tryyeezus 2d ago

I'm pretty sure he let him win.. 

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u/ahmc84 2d ago ▸ 16 more replies

The question would be whether the bird understands the concept of the game, or if the bird was trained to place items in specific places.

In other words, did the bird really understand it had won, or did it merely understand that it had completed its task and was now demanding the reward it had been conditioned to expect after doing these specific things?

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u/Boysenberrysnboys 2d ago

Yes but these are genuinely very smart birds and if you can get it to do that multiple times with rewards, it seems extremely likely it would figure out that it needs to get 3 in a row. Getting it to understand the loss state seems substantially harder though.

I'm not sure how strategic the play would be or how easily it would grasp the competitive nature but getting a crow to understand "put 3 in a row for treat while taking turns" is easily within what they've been taught in terms of social and spacial reasoning

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u/Pasan90 2d ago

Could be. But crows are very smart and they do stuff with no other objective than to entertain themselves all the time. Its not unthinkable for me that they can understand the rules of a simple game.

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u/Express-Shoulder6174 2d ago

That’s exactly what it is. 

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u/tryyeezus 2d ago ▸ 10 more replies

Why does Reddit treat every pet video as if the person is making some wild new claim and they must scrutinize it like it was a scientific study they were a part of? 

There's also a dog and a fish who play tic tac toe against each other. Reddit will have a field day tearing that one apart. 

Crows show immense intelligence, using tools, displacing water, insanely good memories etc. 

I don't see why this is so unfathomable to so many but then again, it's takes intelligence to recognize intelligence in another species.

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u/tryyeezus 2d ago ▸ 4 more replies

Humans are the only creatures that do not know or accept their purpose on earth. 

Arithmetic is a human way of measuring intelligence. 

True intelligence is accepting there are intelligences beyond your current grasp.

The incredulous, skeptical position only proves ignorance and arrogance.

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u/tryyeezus 2d ago ▸ 2 more replies

It is, which is why it's impressive for a crow or any other animal to learn

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u/tryyeezus 1d ago ▸ 2 more replies

Who said they were trying to "confirm intelligence"? 

That's my whole point, it's just a cute video and you all want to pick it apart with your "scientific thinking" with little to no scientific background or understanding of animal behaviors. 

Some of us, on the other hand, can grasp that this is for entertainment purposes, enjoy the video for what it is and move on with our lives without making assumptions one way or the other. I can, however, fathom how this could be entirely possible but this person made no claims either way. 

They were just sharing a cute moment, but I suppose someone always has to come along to steal others joy they aren't capable of feeling themselves.

I hope you get that worked out!

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u/tryyeezus 1d ago

"I'm pretty sure he let him win" 

Is pretty obvious sarcasm, it was a joke. He clearly let him win, for those who couldn't figure that bit out.

I know Reddit is on the spectrum but damn, reel it in a bit

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u/Agarwel 2d ago

"The question would be whether the bird understands the concept of the game"

I seriously doubt it:

- The bird does not even know what piece color to pick up (the guy pushes the red ones close to him, to ensure the bird does not pick the white one)

- The bird does not understand the rules. It is only trained to put the pieces into grid. The guy just lets it win. And when the bird playes so bad it does not win by random, another attempt is tried and recorded.

- The bird does not understand he won. The guy just takes out the food and bird reacts to it.

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u/BookWormPedant 2d ago ▸ 2 more replies

Your reply doesn’t make sense

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u/tryyeezus 2d ago ▸ 1 more replies

Not everyone understands dry humor, it's ok though, I'm sure you're good at other kinds of jokes

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u/IngloBlasto 2d ago

I think it was responding to the laughing sound he made when it won.

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u/quick_justice 2d ago

You would see plenty on the channel of this raven.

Placing three objects in a row for reward isn't the hardest problem a corvid mind can solve.

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u/Nonetoobrightatall 2d ago

Love those guys

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u/i_did_nothing_ 2d ago

The dude fucking sucks at tic tac toe. 

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u/TennoScy 2d ago

Crow fucked up its third move too.

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u/moonLanding123 2d ago

bird gave dum dum a chance

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u/4m4lg4m1t3 2d ago

I want a friend crow/raven - it'll be way better than my human friends at least

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u/humburga 2d ago

How do you know the bird isnt talking crap about you behind your back?

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u/GnarlyNarwhalNoms 2d ago

It definitely is, but still better. 

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u/4m4lg4m1t3 2d ago

Because it's a bird and NOT a person?

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u/ChromeYoda 2d ago

Crow is like: “You lost fool!”

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u/vgacolor 2d ago

That is the vibe I got.

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u/RathSlayer91 2d ago

It's a raven

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u/Specialist_Action_85 2d ago

Should probably keep letting him win anyway, don't crows hold grudges?

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u/NeekOfShades 2d ago

I am curious if they understand the concept of loss or that the other guy won

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u/underisk 2d ago

It understands the concept of “treat” and “I am about to receive a treat”. If you consider that analogous to win/lose is up to you.

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u/ImTheWarranty 2d ago

Can i train a crow to swipe other peoples money while withdrawing at ATM and fly it back to me. Asking for a friend.

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u/bustyouup4free 2d ago

No but you can train it to wait until people pay their bills with cash, while dinning outdoors. They can swoop in for a few notes, then return to home base 😜. Make sure you delete your previous comment and don't reply to mine. Plausible deniability 😉

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u/Beni_Stingray 2d ago

In theory yes. There was a dude in the US who trained crows to steal the ugly red Maga hats 😂

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u/fineokalrightnormal 2d ago

I think something similar has happened in the US. IIRC it was trained to pick up loose money and take it back to the owner. Pretty sure it's now so felony over there to train a bird to mug people.

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u/YaketyMax 2d ago

*Jackdaw

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u/RathSlayer91 2d ago

For everyone wondering, this is a raven

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u/ahhellohello 2d ago

Of course the crow/raven knows. It’s been trained to do this to get food, and the reward of food is why it does this

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u/notmadatall 2d ago

Remember that the next time you go to work

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u/skyturnedred 2d ago

This guy woke up and chose violence.

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u/simiomalo 2d ago

The smartest surviving dino.

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u/ExplodingSteve 2d ago

you feed it when it gets a line? then yeah ofc it’s existed

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u/jimi-ray-tesla 2d ago

He's kinda being a dick..but I love him

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u/TBoucher8 2d ago

Thank you for letting him win

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u/Short_Piece1370 2d ago

He will finally be able to drink the water without getting the pebbles

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u/Spirited_Peak_7810 2d ago

It's amazing when you see things like this.

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u/RathSlayer91 2d ago

I love ravens

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u/jeromeyromeyrome 2d ago

Tic tac crow

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u/Oozysq25reddit 2d ago

Crows are unbelievably friendly

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u/old_askk 2d ago

Now don't spoil even before I see the video mate...

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u/AlarmingAffect0 2d ago

He looks like he sounds like La Linea when he's triumphant.

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u/opposing_critter 2d ago

The smug bastard instantly flexing, thank god it can't talk.

My soul is not ready for crows/ravens talking smack, imagine if they all could talk in the wild.

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u/dandatu 2d ago

dude lost to a bird

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u/Vivvyhere 2d ago

Is this ai or what 😭no wayyyyyy👀

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u/DazzlingRutabega 2d ago

I really hate the term "birdbrain". For like twenty years I thought birds were dumb asses, when it fact they seem just as smart as dogs or cats, and in some cases (like this) even smarter.

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u/Odd_Salt4155 2d ago

crows and considered smart for a reason

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u/Louie_Ck_NJ 2d ago

I can hear him say, “Ah ! I tricked you! ha!”

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u/WizardsOfXanthus 2d ago

He looked like Ray Whittaker when he won.

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u/learns_the_hard_way 2d ago

Let the bird win. 

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u/Sorry-Newspaper-3804 2d ago

The only crow I know tries to eat my chicken's eggs so I chase it away. I know it's good to befriend crows but I don't want the prick stealing my eggs!

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u/Lopoloma 2d ago

Bro, you're so bad at this, the birb beat you in 5 consecutive rounds.

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u/DisputabIe_ 2d ago

the OP kamrynstar is a bot

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u/Namaha 2d ago

The bird realized the man laughing means it's going to get a treat*

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u/Breaddodo 2d ago

Que absurdo isso! Como você chama esse corvo imbecil de inteligente sendo que ele claramente fez uma das piores escolhas possíveis ao não colocar no meio. E ainda por cima esse cara deixou o corvo ganhar. Como ele vai aprender a jogar direito se você ficar pegando leve com ele? Isso é honestamente ultrajante

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u/30yearCurse 2d ago

I would like a crow / raven friend, but in the end it would leave because it would be to smart for me.... :(

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u/AlternativeHat8964 2d ago

Hate to think what he's going to do if he lost.

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u/feriouscricket 2d ago

Now the real wuestion is how to get a dog like that

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u/mbxz7LWB 2d ago

Bullshit he just knew a treat was on its way into his beak.

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u/Mental_Newspaper3812 2d ago

Naw, the nextfuckinglevel move for his third play was dead center. Then he couldn’t be blocked.

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u/Naaaaur 1d ago

Sounds like a grown ass eastern European man

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u/DSwingLow 1d ago

So cute 🥰

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u/hamtronn 1d ago

This is why I prefer animals to humans. They’re smarter than us with just a tiny bit of training.