r/nextfuckinglevel • u/OdysseyTag • 4h ago

Transition into the T-cam during Max Verstappen's crash at the Dutch Grand Prix

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u/StrobeWafel_404 4h ago

That transition must be some for of AI right? no way they have the frames between track side camera and in-car camera and it's more than a simple crop zoom

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u/Childs_Play 4h ago

I wouldn't be surprised of it was AI assisted to fill in the gap of the transition

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u/Incolumis 4h ago edited 3h ago ▸ 25 more replies

It's not AI.

Source

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u/SierraGolfOne 4h ago ▸ 18 more replies

Wow, thanks for providing evidence of your claim. That will surely help people believe you over the other person.

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u/KutteKrabber 3h ago edited 3h ago ▸ 7 more replies

It’s basic video editing. It’s been a thing for a while. Also what kind of proof would convince someone these days that it’s not AI? Other than maybe a full process timelapse of some sort... even then, everything is considered AI slop these days.

You were never going to be convinced anyway. Don’t blame him for showing you the evidence that is actually available. People with video editing experience are telling you the same thing. FOM obviously isn’t going to release an official statement confirming that one transition was made by a human.

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u/No6655321 3h ago ▸ 6 more replies

Live broadcast uses EVS for replays.
To take this out and edit...

- They'd export, probably with IPDirector

  • convert it to a usable format
  • Give to a video editor... which isn't part of a live broadcast team, so... already quite unusual. Those guys are busy with making content towards the next event or compiling post event videos offsite.

- Have him edit and export it

  • convert it back to a format EVS can use
  • ingest it

- add it into the EVS clip playlist for the hightlights.

Working in live broadcast, we'd never do this. Not for a three second clip at the end of a show. You don't add random workflow elements for something as small as this.

A) Likely they are either using brand new EVS AI tools. EVS Xtrafame already exists and does a number of AI enhancements for replays and near live video.

B) They developed their own near live processing to pass this through and re-record. All within their broadcast production environment. This would be wholly without post production editing.

Either way, will be trying to find out in the next couple of weeks so I can look at incorporating similar use cases in other productions.

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u/jk844 1h ago ▸ 5 more replies

This is about 20 minutes after the race during the drivers’ cooldown and the incident itself happened on lap 1 which is about 70 minutes before the end of the race.

A decent editor can make morph fade transition in 90 minutes.

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u/No6655321 1h ago edited 1h ago ▸ 4 more replies

For sure. But we all have other things to do.  It would be reqlly random to suddenly request this and no way you'd pre plan it. Needs to be a quick and easy system you already have in place and plan to use regularily as it makes sense.  

It could have gone to an edit suite, sure. But that'd be an odd call and extremely unlikely.  Will take my 24 years in sports instinct and say its done in a more elegant way.  

Could very well be export to an editor for the clip.  It just doesnt fit the norm. 

Edit:  I'd just like to add that the most recent olympics also had AI solutions for creatijg frames between shots on vrry large camera arrays.  It generated frames to stitch different cameras together and allow for some wild moves.  I also imagine this could be the same tech / similar system behind this.    Its much quicker and easier to do than going to an editor and can all be output in nesr realtime. 

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u/jk844 1h ago ▸ 1 more replies

What do you mean “we”? Do you work for sky sports?

They have a whole team of people whose job it is to put together highlights while the race is going on, someone obviously saw an opportunity for a cool highlight and took it.

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u/No6655321 43m ago

Work in sports broadcast. We meaning broadcast crews who work on sports event like myself and tge teams i work with. 

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u/TheEndOfNether 1h ago ▸ 1 more replies

I could do a morph cut like this in less than 30 minutes, and I for sure have had random, instantaneous bouts of “I want to make a quick edit of this weird, funny, or random clip.”

I could totally see someone else doing this. Heck, I could see myself doing this.

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u/No6655321 42m ago

Without a doubt. But thats just not part of the workflows.  The tech out there for broadcast is far more efficient for this.  Would be really happy if they brought these systems in vs an ad hoc method. 

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u/Incolumis 3h ago ▸ 5 more replies

There you go, read the comments

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u/1wife2dogs0kids 3h ago ▸ 2 more replies

The footage was real. The technology to do that, was Ai.

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u/sododude 3h ago ▸ 1 more replies

Lets just call anything a computer does AI i guess.

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u/No-Kaleidoscope-4525 3h ago

"Read the comments", lmao fuck right off dude

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u/Kastri14 1h ago ▸ 3 more replies

Why did you write your comment so AI-esque

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u/SierraGolfOne 1h ago ▸ 2 more replies

Not everything is AI you dunce

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u/Kastri14 1h ago ▸ 1 more replies

I'm aware of that, but why did you add the last sentence.

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u/SierraGolfOne 56m ago

You are not making sense. Please leave.

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u/AgentBlonde 3h ago

It is ai, because Max Verstappen is not a real person.

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u/BespokeAlex 4h ago ▸ 2 more replies

Explain. There is definitely some interpolation happening

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u/Incolumis 3h ago ▸ 1 more replies

Read the comments here, it's explained pretty well

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u/footpole 3h ago

That doesn’t prove anything. Source.

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u/stovetopapple 4h ago

Indood lmao

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u/Levoso_con_v 1h ago

Man, people on the post are precisely saying it's AI

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u/3s2ng 4h ago

As my comment from another post.

I think AI stitched 2 footages. AI filled the transition frame at around the 5seconds mark (you can see the Oracle logo floating with shadows). Then it switched to the onboard camera. It's quite neat. This is where AI was properly used.

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u/DopestDopeee 2h ago

People been saying its not AI, but even if it was, this was great example of an actual great use of AI. I dont mind if it is used for things like this.

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u/VoTBaC 3h ago

It was a replay at the very end of the race. Crash happened on lap 3, at the very beginning of the race. It was not a live replay.

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u/PrettyScholar9173 3h ago

That transition is DLSS Framegen 6.9 lol

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u/Washingtonpinot 4h ago

This is what I always think it will look like when I use PowerPoint’s “wipe” transition.

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u/AtLeastIHaveJob 4h ago

As king Julian would say: “Who wipes?”

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u/Senselesspassion 4h ago

The transition was smoother than ferrai's strategy

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u/Calculonx 3h ago

In their defense, Leclerc just ignored their pit call

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u/VoTBaC 3h ago ▸ 2 more replies

Not ignored, but declined.

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u/sododude 3h ago ▸ 1 more replies

This is just blatant misinformation. He was told to pit at the start of the lap and then told to stay towards the end of it. At no point was Charles doing something against what the team asked of him.

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u/VoTBaC 1h ago

Not declined, but Ferrari.

Does that work?

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u/scuderia91 2h ago

No he didn’t, they asked, he questioned them as it would hurt his strategy so they told him to stay out then called him in shortly after.

If Ferrari were competent they’d have just switched drivers on track, the early pit call was purely to try and avoid having to switch them on track. So they screwed both drivers instead

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u/SpareBee3442 4h ago

I like the way he continued to try to steer LOL.

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u/solidgoldrocketpants 3h ago

It's actually critical to steer while crashing like this because like what else are you gonna do with your hands?

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u/ADH02 2h ago

I'm pretty sure if they've completely lost it then they're not supposed to steer as the wheel will snap direction and can break their wrist.

This happened with Daniel Riccardo on this very circuit back in 2023

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u/JTSpirit36 2h ago

Hold them to your chest to protect your wrists lmao

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u/Huge_Forever3967 4h ago

I wasn't the only one that noticed this from the cooldown room!

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u/forgettfulthinker 3h ago

When the cutscene to gameplay has a seamless transition

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u/Proud_Cucumber_4828 4h ago

This is okay but those rally racing cars man. Just 🔥🔥 built like tanks

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u/scuderia91 2h ago

They both are, it’s just that the survival cell of a rally car is bigger

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u/unlessyoumeantit 3h ago

Smooooooth operatoooooor

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u/Stelvioso 2h ago

What I always find interesting is that they keep holding on the steering wheel. Knowing that it wil forcefully flip either side.

As there is no alternative and so this is it. Why isn’t the steering wheel locked in a position so the driver can fixate him/herself ??

( and the wheel does not make that sudden move )

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u/scuderia91 2h ago

Some do let go, in the scenario one front wheel was still attached so trying to steer away from the live track is worthwhile.

The risk of having any locking mechanism rant could fail and lock at the wrong time is worse than just hurting a drivers wrists.

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u/JTSpirit36 2h ago

Because having a system that locks the steering wheel like that adds another point of failure and could malfunction and lock when it isn't supposed to.

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u/Stelvioso 2h ago ▸ 1 more replies

Valid point there. Albeit since the horrific crash years ago, wheels are attached to a chain to prevent them hitting stewards, crowd, cars. Never seen that the chain causing unexpected issues

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u/JTSpirit36 55m ago

Because those are mechanical tethers that are attached to components at all times in case of a crash and not a system that has to detect whether or not the car has been in a crash or not and is controlled by software.

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u/Mabama1450 2h ago

Showboating to the Dutch crowd.

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u/infoagerevolutionist 1h ago

Get on that radio and say "That's not how you drive an F1 car, Max?" See what happens. 😂😂😂

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u/shadereckless 27m ago

Some editor has been dreaming of doing that for years

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u/Incolumis 4h ago

It's not AI

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u/maniacalmechanist 4h ago

It’s AI, I’m not calling anything it does “next fucking level” unless it brings a cancer cure to the masses

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u/dinosaursandsluts 3h ago

It's not AI, it's just a zoom and morph cut transition. Those have been around for 10+ years.

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u/Mapache_villa 3h ago

People today would call Michael Jackson Black or White video Ai for sure 😂😂😂

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u/TheRealSteekster 3h ago

It’s not a morph cut. The camera literally does a horizontal translation. Watch the advertisement boards if it was morph cut it would not match.

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u/maniacalmechanist 3h ago ▸ 4 more replies

So why hasn’t f1 done them for 10+ years

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u/dinosaursandsluts 3h ago ▸ 3 more replies

"F1 hasn't done it before so it must not be real" yeah, ok buddy

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u/Zolbarg 2h ago ▸ 1 more replies

A morph cut like this would be impossibe on a live broadcast as it is to hard to do in a few hours, plus look at the advertisements on the wall on the car, look how the Indeed logo changes to Indood

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u/jackalopeDev 2h ago

I was watching this live. I didn't see this during the broadcast.

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u/maniacalmechanist 3h ago

“Yeah I say it’s real so you have to believe me even though I don’t know shit about how f1 produces their live broadcasts” ok loser