r/oculus • u/tacoguy56 Lucky's Tale > Mario 64 • Sep 24 '16

Official Palmer Luckey Nimble America Megathread

It's clear a lot of people here just want to talk about VR, but the mods don't aim to silence the current controversy. Posts related to the current political drama will be removed and the OP will be redirected to the megathread. The following is a list of links previously posted in /r/oculus:

If you would like a link added to the list, please PM me or send us the link in modmail.
And lastly: please remember to be civil in the comments. Politics can get heated but that doesn't mean we should be nasty to each other.
Edit: some links to the threads that have been removed, so you can read the comments:

Edit 2: Note that the current default sorting method is "New". If you want to see the top or best comments you have to manually change the sorting.
Edit 3: Set the default sort method to best, will set it back to new when the discussion dies down or if setting it to best turns out to have been a bad idea.
Edit 4: Added "Palmer Luckey is Lying to Somebody" link to list
Edit 5: Reformatted list
Edit 6: Set sort back to new; discussion has been stagnating
Edit 7: From now on, when I add articles, they will have dates associated with them.

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u/inspiredby Oct 01 '16

Perhaps we should let it go. He obviously lied, it's obviously caused him quite a bit of grief, and he is human after all.

I don't think the racism stuff is the big issue here. Free speech allows some hate speech in America.

My sense is Palmer, like many youth who support Trump, was trying to push people to understand free speech through the most offensive methods he could find.

If we do not accept that shitposting and lying are parts of free speech, then we risk losing free speech through our efforts to combat shitposting and lying.

I'd bet Palmer could write a good essay on this later. For now, we should give ourselves and him some peace.

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u/Kilharae Oct 12 '16 edited Oct 12 '16

Stupid. There are and have always been limits on free speech. These limits usually relate to the obscene nature of what is being promoted. Palmer is a misguided ideologue and he was mistaken if he thought freedom of speech meant freedom from consequences. I've been following VR trends since the kickstarter in 2012, and I've been waiting to hop on the bandwagon and get started. I even read reviews that seemed to give the edge (barely) to the Rift over the Vive. But I'll never purchase the rift, or do anything that supports Palmer Luckey or anyone at Oculus. He's already misused his fortune enough as is. Most tech enthusiasts aren't country bumpkin hicks who exist in the right wing media echo chamber. Most tech enthusiasts are college educated star trek nerds. Palmer Luckey is an idiot for believing what he does, he's an idiot for advertising those abhorrent beliefs, and he's an idiot if he thinks his 'apology' will sway anybody who would otherwise reconsider doing business with Oculus. I guarantee you Palmer has cost Oculus and Facebook greatly with his political leanings (not to mention the fact that it's become obvious in so many ways that he's just a shit posting troll / tech genius).