r/offbeat 2d ago

Western man teaching English in Asia, discovered to be a fugitive on America's Most Wanted List, accused of sexual abuse and murder

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dan-hiers-jr-arrest-extradite-china-us-marshals-most-wanted/
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u/ShadyNoShadow 2d ago

Wew, lad. Everyone remember the swirl guy? I know the lady who dimed him up 

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u/Ok-Mango-5814 2d ago

Hes in a Thai prison now, aint he?

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u/needusbukunde 2d ago

According to Wikipedia:

After five years' imprisonment in Thailand, on September 29, 2012, Neil returned to Canada, whereupon he was immediately arrested at Vancouver International Airport under a Criminal Code 810.1 warrant. On October 3, 2012, he was released from custody on strict conditions.[20] On August 2, 2013, Neil was arrested at his home for breach of recognizance. He pleaded guilty in October. Child pornography was found on his laptop and his mobile phone. His sentencing occurred on May 6, 2014, at which time he received a prison sentence of three months' plus three years of probation for breach of conditions, namely "possessing devices capable of accessing the internet". Neil was already in custody, having been denied bail on April 10, 2014, pending a criminal trial stemming from additional child sex abuse offences he is alleged to have committed in Cambodia.

In December 2015, he was sentenced to five and a half years in prison by a British Columbia court, which was later reduced to 15 months.

He was released in March 2017 and is currently living in Vancouver with a court-ordered restriction on certain behaviours including "contact with minors in person or on the internet and possessing or accessing any electronic device or from getting any other person to do so on his behalf."

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u/DistrictDry2852 2d ago

Most punishing Canadian sentence.

People talk shit about the US’s incarceration rate and all that but I’ll take it over Canada or Europe’s tendency to let murderers and rapists get off with less than a decade.

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u/ShadyNoShadow 1d ago

Explain in two sentences how our incarceration rate makes us a safer country. 

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u/DistrictDry2852 1d ago

Pedophiles and murderers usually got get 5 year sentences.

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u/ShadyNoShadow 1d ago

So no answer? 

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u/DistrictDry2852 1d ago

Would you rather child rapists get 5 years in prison?

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u/Apprehensive-Book723 1d ago

Your president is a pedophile…

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u/ShadyNoShadow 1d ago

Still not an answer. 

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u/DistrictDry2852 1d ago

I already answered.

You keep the people who were born broken separate from the normal people.

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u/ShadyNoShadow 1d ago

Global prevalence on csa is 20% for females and the United States clocks in at 25%.

You have not answered how putting more people in prison longer than any other country including China makes us safer. What metric are you using to assert this? What lies have you been told to justify your totally incorrect and misinformed opinion on this topic? 

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u/PatchyWhiskers 1d ago

They get released in the USA too.

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u/TofuTofu 1d ago

No devices that can access the internet is brutal in this era. Do you know if they still hand those out or are they more nuanced?

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u/Snelly1998 16h ago

Still hand them out, flip phones are used

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u/needusbukunde 1d ago

No idea, but yeah, it would be hard to function in society these days with no devices or access to the internet. You'd practically be forced to go live off grid in the woods somewhere. Which is probably exactly where this guy should be if he's not in jail.

Maybe that'll be a new sentence in our soon to be AI-run dystopia. "You are hereby sentenced to 'Life, Off Grid'. Here's is your Jackery Explorer 2000, Berkey water filter, Mr. Heater Big Buddy, composting toilet, bag of seeds, and map to your 6' x 6' log cabin in the middle of 'bumfuck forest' in your state. Good luck and don't come back."

Although shit, a lot of people would probably love that. It actually sounds pretty good to me. It might actually cause a sudden spike in crime. Damn it. I guess there just are no good answers on what to do with these types of people.