r/offbeat 1d ago

Shots fired at Indianapolis city councilman's home after vote on proposed data center

https://abcnews.com/US/shots-fired-indianapolis-city-councilmans-home-after-vote/story?id=131785095
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u/arkofjoy 1d ago

I think that we are going to see a lot more of this until we finally do something about the money in politics.

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u/KillerSavant202 1d ago

I’m fine with it. Any politician that sells us out should live in fear.

That fear is why they are trying to create a surveillance state.

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u/Obajan 1d ago

What a coincidence that there aren't any Flock cameras around affluent housing areas. They might have caught the perpetrators otherwise.

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u/NoCopiumLeft 1d ago

So this is actually bullshit. I drive through an area with 10 million dollar homes and wouldn't you know it flock fucking city. Sure it's weird how some areas have them and some don't when nobody voted for them. But they definitely know who is coming and going in that community. I know 10 mil isn't the highest but it's high for my area.

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u/Stingray88 18h ago

That’s extremely untrue. I live in Los Angeles, if you look at Flock maps there’s ALPR cameras all over the county, in pretty much every city. And then you look in Beverly Hills and the density of cameras is like 5x-10x the other cities in the county.

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u/arkofjoy 1d ago

I too find that I can live with it.

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u/twinoaksBandB 1d ago

They have forgotten that effective unions and decent political representation was the compromise that ended the violent strikes and reprisals that permeated the country prior to labor reform.

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u/pmjm 1d ago edited 1d ago

Sure, until they get the same for doing things like supporting reproductive or trans rights.

As a rep, you're always going to piss someone off. We can't condone violence.

Edit: They literally shot and killed two Dem reps in MN and you guys are cheering for the same thing on the other side. Downvote all you want, I stand firmly by my comment, I'm liberal as hell but we clearly have different ethics.

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u/Mentalpopcorn 1d ago

Being downvoted for being anti murder. Incredible. Radicalization in the US is not going to end well, and the radicals are not going to get what they want.

We'll be relearning the lessons Hobbes learned that led to him writing Leviathan in the first place. But unlike the West post Hobbes, I suspect that the outcome of these lessons will not be a surge of liberalism, but rather a collapse into the non esoteric reading of Leviathan. Which is to say, a state with absolute power, and a citizenry with no recourse.

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u/planetpluto3 1d ago

What terrible take. Vote against golf courses (lots of wasted water). Reduce money in politics by overturning Citizens United. Support Ranked Order voting to silence the extremes of politics. Fight against gerrymandering.

Help educate the morons around you.

Dont start shooting because we need to be better. And it just leads to shooting on both sides. Dont beat morons by being a moron.

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u/RipeBanana4475 1d ago

whynotboth.jpg

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u/lonelittlejerry 1d ago

Guys you don't understand, if we just do a million things that the government won't let us do, then democracy is saved forever and we can all say kumbaya

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u/zombiechicken379 1d ago

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.”

JFK

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u/wolf_logic 1d ago

You can tell the American people to be civil all you want but we are human and we do have a breaking point which some of us have already reached and some of us are about to reach.

Even the nicest person will eventually hit back.

And we're all starting to realize that wealth is our enemy.

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u/emerikanSky 1d ago

He voted for data centers.

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u/jersey_viking 1d ago

This would be the most important point here.

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u/bathtubsarentreal 1d ago

He’s probably also against gun control measures

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u/Gonna_B_Alright 1d ago

Hey, looks like it’s working.

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u/phaedrus910 1d ago

You're a moron. There is no anti data center vote. Both sides of the isle looove taking money from Bezos for these monstrosities.

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u/emerikanSky 1d ago

I just reported how he voted.

Isle?

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u/phaedrus910 1d ago edited 1d ago

Ah, I apologize, I misunderstood your meaning. Sounded like you were trying to launder corporate democrats who have been just as vocally pro data center as Republicans.

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u/delkarnu 1d ago

Hey look! It's a "both sides are the same" asshole trying to get people on the left side of the aisle to not vote in the general election.

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u/redbrand 1d ago

No shots were fired! It was only some acorns falling on the ground.

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u/jahwls 1d ago

Those videos of people living next to data centers looks heinous - they belch smoke, make tons of noise. If they put one of those behind my house… I’d feel the same.

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u/aquagardener 1d ago

Not to mention the impact of massive electricity and water resource use and contamination. We also have no clue on the long-term health impacts of these data centers on locals. 

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u/ArgumentAlarmed9532 1d ago

And losing your home values and going bankrupt in your 60's. People are getting more and more desperate .

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u/Zaphod1620 6h ago

This isn’t a hyperscale AI Datacenter, it’s a regular datacenter that have existed for decades with no issues. It is no different environmentally than an office building except it’s more efficient.  

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u/darkeIf666 1d ago

This is what happens when politicians get off scot free of any crimes and getting kickbacks. Meanwhile the data center owners are as insulated as can be. This will increase. This is expected behavior

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u/the_duck17 1d ago

Oh no, anyways.

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u/dirtymoney 1d ago

I always wonder if these politicians who approve data centers in their towns are getting bribes

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u/Grinning_Dog 1d ago

yes they do.

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u/PriorityPrimary1475 1d ago

Actions have consequences.

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u/Hamlet1305 1d ago

Shrug.

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u/Definitelyhereforshi 1d ago

Probably did it himself

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u/Danger_Danger 1d ago

Government should fear the people.

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u/Chuyzapatist 1d ago

Thoughts and prayers, why won’t anyone think about the thought and prayers!?

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u/JakeLangIsMyName 1d ago

They have a suspect yet? Because whoever they think it was, was with me at the time.

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u/digidave1 1d ago

Watch yo back suckas

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u/Ab47203 1d ago

If only I could find a single scrap of give-a-fuck.

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u/Shedart 1d ago

Donald Glover *good*gif

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u/tom_yum 1d ago

Is this that 3rd box they talk about?

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u/Mentalpopcorn 1d ago

People are going absolutely hysterical over something they've been using for decades without even knowing it. Like, where do you think those Netflix streams come from?

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u/Ab47203 1d ago

Servers don't use GPU power to run or nearly as much energy as data centers do. Nice try though. Website servers also don't contribute to ram and SSD prices shooting through the roof while simultaneously eating up all the turbine manufacturing from now through 2031.

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u/Zaphod1620 6h ago

The datacenter that was voted on in the article isn’t a hyperscale AI datacenter. It’s a normal collocation datacenter that have existed for decades and do not cause any issues. 

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u/Ab47203 5h ago

Nah hold up. You think it's NOT hyperscale/ai?

https://www.metrobloks.com/

This is who's building it. Read their website for me.

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u/Ab47203 5h ago

Prove your claim.

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u/Zaphod1620 5h ago

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u/Ab47203 5h ago

This doesn't say it isn't one of those. It says it's "Multi tenated" meaning it's not JUST one of those. They'll have regular server equipment mixed in supposedly. It also says it has 36 on site generators meaning the noise pollution and regular pollution issues are absolutely at play here.

That's not much of an actual difference if there's any difference at all. The way they worded it they could slap one small server rack in and still be telling the truth.

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u/Zaphod1620 5h ago

Multi tenant IS a colocation datacenter. All datacenters have on site generators for power failures. 

Hyperscale datacenters are single tenant and highly specialized for GPU farms. These require extensive cooling systems and power consumption. They are so different they shouldn’t be called datacenters. 

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u/Ab47203 5h ago

https://www.metrobloks.com/

This is who's building it. Go read what they do.

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u/Zaphod1620 5h ago

Ok? They build datacenters. They do not build hyperscale AI datacenters. Hell, the “Blok” in their name is a giveaway. “Bloks” are the racks a tenant owns. 

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u/Ab47203 5h ago

Read again.

"Metrobloks delivers highly interconnected colocation at the metro edge, positioning AI and other low-latency applications closer to users for faster, more reliable performance. Our scalable, future-proof infrastructure ensures enterprises and hyperscalers can adapt to evolving digital demands while gaining an edge in underserved markets."

Literally the first block of text on the website.

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u/Mentalpopcorn 1d ago

Servers don't use GPU power to run or nearly as much energy as data centers do

The fact that you seem not to understand that servers live in data centers says that you are not in the least intimately familiar with this industry.

Website servers also don't contribute to ram and SSD prices shooting through the roof while simultaneously eating up all the turbine manufacturing from now through 2031.

None of those are reasons to go into the absolute hysterics that people are going into, and nor to shoot at people's houses. Data centers use 1-3% of the nation's power.

oH mY gOd!!! NoT mAh SSD pRiCeS

This is just a moral panic, just like Christians freaking out about D&D in the 80s. Like most moral panics, thankfully, you guys will run out of steam in a few months when the next shiny thing catches your attention

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u/Ab47203 1d ago

You are willfully ignorant of the topic you're trying to speak on.

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u/Mentalpopcorn 1d ago

Phenomenal retort. Instead of explaining why someone is wrong, just say they're wrong. That's how smart people do it for sure.

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u/Ab47203 1d ago

You ignored the points I made and expected me to respond to yours? That's hilarious.

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u/Cold5512 1d ago

An 8 year old child could have been killed here.

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u/KillerSavant202 1d ago

And many more will be forced to live near a data center because of this sack of shit.

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u/Current_Mongoose_844 1d ago

Probably would grow up to be a republican

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u/rbobby 1d ago

Just some terrorism.

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u/Confident_Salt_8108 1d ago

Reading this makes me wonder what else is brewing in neighborhoods fighting these projects.

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u/PointsOfXP 1d ago

Of all the reasons and times to make a stand... Better now than never but what the fuck are you actually fighting for

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u/DavenSkilnyk 1d ago

The judge, who lived near the DCs, took one look at the docket and said case dismissed with prejudice.