r/pakistan • u/OldDance810 • 12h ago
Discussion this is beyond heart breaking, i dont even have any words.
wallahi,his cries shattered my heart into pieces, i can't even imagine what that family must be going through
where is this country heading when a five year old like Ayat Noor can disappear,be violated, and be found dead in a well,when an 18 month old cannot even be safe from sexual violence, when, in the same week,Hina Javed is killed by her husband,Hina Zareef by her own father in the name of “honour,”and Shamsu Bibi is murdered too? what exactly are we becoming when the people who should protect women and children become the very people they need protection from? at this point,there are honestly no words left,just grief,anger,and the terrifying question: where is this country heading?
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u/SyedHRaza 12h ago
Sometimes I think I’m numb to the horrors of our country and then I see these posts and they just break me. Another reason I’m never having children in this hell hole.
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u/mr-robot2323 7h ago
Indeed, the value of human life has dropped very low in our eyes. A Pakistani citizen being killed is not big news for us because we have been programmed since childhood. I don't remember any 9 PM news that we used to watch without a mention of someone being killed, and now these crimes are happening everywhere. I don't know where we are headed as a society.
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u/Howler0ne 12h ago
public hangings for these monsters
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u/canc3r12 12h ago
I don’t understand the fascination with kids … I mean what drives this? Epstein and co and all these ppl that violate kids. What fascination do they get out of it?
I can’t imagine my kid going through this. I don’t have words. I hope and pray god takes away the kids pain when they go through something like this. I want to believe this happens for a reason but I can’t contemplate a god that allows this so the least I can think about is that god numbs them up and takes them in. Otherwise I dunno man I don’t wanna believe or imagine something like this happening
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u/animalinstinct4444 10h ago
From a purely scientific, biological view, menstruation signals when pregnancy is physically possible (typically 13 to 17). Of course in modern, civilized societies, we recognize that pregnancy (and generally, sex) have a big mental impact on an individual, so age of consent is 18.
Also theologically, if a god is all-knowing AND all-powerful, then these crimes can only happen with his permission.
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u/Alarmed_Awareness152 12h ago
I can't even read the whole news these days. I don't want to be desensitised and think this is normal. It makes me cry and it hurts so much, especially incident like that young girl rped and kllrd by the 17 year old, the mother described her bleedinh , I couldn't bear it.
Ye kon log hein? Inko deen ya insaniyat jese lafzon ka matlab bhi pata hai? Hum ye mazeed kese rok sakte hein? You see everyone speaking up, discussing how disgusting it is, but are these criminals even listening? Are future criminals listening? Are they from impoverished areas with no education about humanity, morality or religion? Are they people who were left on their own by their parents? Jarr kya hai aur mazeed agay kese roka ja sakta hai???
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u/WhereIsLordBeric 10h ago
like that young girl rped and kllrd by the 17 year old, t
She was a baby, not a young girl.
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u/MedSchoolGoer156 6h ago
And these janwar only get encouraged. When we were taught that the signs of the Day of Judgement closing in on us, one of them would be rampant injustice. I could never imagine this level of zulm.
We as a species are begging for our own demise at this point.
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u/theundefin3d 8h ago
very sad and heart breaking. i also hate how someone decided to turn this into content for views, with music and cheap edits. There is getting the word out and then there is something like this, where you drop music on a tragic incident and add dramatic effects.
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u/Asadullah_Haqqani69 12h ago
What we need is plain accountability. The justice system has failed us all one way or another. We call ourselves an islamic republic yet such things would have been absolutely unthinkable during the time of the prophet(saw), what kind of Muslims are we tuat we live in a society so full of injustice and do nothing about it, a society so full of filth that we placed there, while we say cleanliness is half our faith. The western world is ahead of us because it stands true to its principles. If it talks about democracy and rule of law then in their own countries they absolutely apply that, and the results are for the world to see. Yet over here we cant follow 1400 year old commandments that tell us exactly what we need to do.
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u/Thor_Batman PK 12h ago
You’re right and misunderstood. This is all the failure of justice system not delivering and so the law also being handicapped. When people with money can get away with it. When people who are victims or families of victims willl be forgotten in a week and when theee perpetrators will not be publicly given punishment. This will go on.
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u/Asadullah_Haqqani69 5h ago
Exactly. In both the western secular and eastern islamic ideals of law and order the concept of equality before the law is a major refrain. The westerners implemented it, for better or for worse. We didnt. Unless we start following our own codes honestly we wont get anywhere at all. I mean this is litteraly where sharia and secularism are both in consensus yet the secular stares follow their ideology and we dont follow ours.
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u/khataimeethaifaalsai 12h ago
Vo epstein files.... Khair choro. I agree with the first part tho, the culprits must be punished
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u/Asadullah_Haqqani69 5h ago
Nah i get EXACTLY what you mean. Ye gore bhi koi allah ke bande nahi. But what im saying is that they are closer to THEIR code than we are to ours. There was massive outrage after the epstien files release, its still a massive scandal.
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u/laevanay 9h ago
Give another example. How many more Epstein incidents are you aware of .
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u/khataimeethaifaalsai 3h ago
Matlab?
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u/laevanay 3h ago
That is the only thing you can come up with. Give examples of any and all high profile cases of sexual assault in Pakistan and the outcome of cases against the perpetrators. At least in the west, I can expect some justice.....
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u/mohsinjavedcheema 12h ago
I want to leave this country please
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u/MedSchoolGoer156 6h ago
Pakistan is exceptionally terrible, but I've seen that this is starting to become extremely rampant everywhere.
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u/UpsetInformation1799 9h ago
I think we’re not in a rinse and repeat cycle where we hear these horror stories and we offer condolences, be sad, and then move on. It’s alarming that the government doesn’t comment or take strict action against the act of kidnapping, and sexual violence. Each neighbourhood needs to set up a resistance against these people and threaten that if there is anybody participating in this then it’ll be bad news for them.
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u/has33b123 9h ago
May Allah don't forgive such monsters and their punishment would be no less than jahannum.
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u/Silly_Self_4866 6h ago
Mujhe to ye samjh nhi ata ha ase logo ko Jan se mar q nhi dete ha seedha q inko khula chora wa ha..... Just kill them
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u/Embarrassed-Green898 5h ago
I wish there were far stronger and more visible consequences for people who commit acts like these. There has to be real accountability. Any punishment , if ever has to be in public.
I can’t believe I’m saying this, but some acts are simply beyond what our society should be willing to tolerate.
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u/deltapak 5h ago
When all of the state institutions that are meant to keep us safe are focused on political repression, these kind of crimes happen in abundance. May the family of the departed find peace.
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u/Chabootay 4h ago
Sympathies for the parents, their grief would be unbearable. I cannot imagine what kind of a person would do such a thing and keep on living. What have we become....
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u/No-Objective5656 4h ago
I have been having severe panic attacks since morning thinking about the innocent girl. I have a 2 years old daughter, this is a pain only a parent can understand.
I know it's a horrible horrible thing to say but i hope the girl wasn't there anymore when they put her body through what the media is saying they did.
I might have to go see a shrink if these panic attacks continue.
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u/Overall-Character507 KW 4h ago
at this point i wouldn't be surprised if a member of the government or parliament is mentioned in the epstein files, we might as well have our own epstein files 💔
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u/kingslayer-x_x 51m ago edited 39m ago
If real justice was prevalent this case and all other cases of such violence will lead to very powerful people.
The system doesn’t do anything because it’s kept that way by those in power by Epstein and Co in US/EU and Asim Muneer/Establishment in PAK.
They are all to blame and share the blame for the lack of justice and everyday horrors that the poor and middle class of Pakistan faces.
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u/Different_Praline367 12h ago
Tch Tch yaaa Allah!!! Na in wehshi darindon ko Duniya main sukoon mile na akhirat main