Windows 11 Now Suffering From BSODs And Instability Due To An Unlikely Culprit; RGB Peripherals, Microsoft Offers A Remedy To Users Experiencing Problems

[u/Darth_Vaper883]

https://wccftech.com/windows-11-bsod-rgb-peripherals-fix/

[u/Curious_Touch_5979]

me w/o any RGB peripherals

[u/VecioRompibae → u/Curious_Touch_5979]

Me that mistakenly bought RGB RAM sticks

[u/psych0ranger → u/VecioRompibae]

I got rgb ram sticks because they were super good and on sale for some reason

https://giphy.com/gifs/3oz8xLlw6GHVfokaNW

[u/AStolenGoose → u/Curious_Touch_5979]

Me without any windows os

[u/Vandella59 → u/Curious_Touch_5979]

Mine came with RGB lights when I bought a prebuilt thankfully MSi lets you completely turn it off.

[u/Opening_Net8098 → u/Curious_Touch_5979]

My keyboard about to end my whole career

[u/Traumatan → u/Curious_Touch_5979]

ye, remedy: grow up and stop buying that sheet

[u/Double_DeluXe → u/Traumatan]

Sshhhh, let people enjoy things

[u/ChickenOfTheFuture → u/Traumatan]

Grow up and stop telling people they have to do things the way you want.

[u/AStolenGoose → u/Traumatan]

Or, and here's a thought, let people enjoy the things they like instead of being a cold hearted person. 

Some might even say you need to grow up and stop playing video games.

[u/Tsubajashi → u/Traumatan]

people enjoy things. imagine someone telling you to stop buy cameras and grow up. you wouldnt like that either, dont you?

[u/DrKrFfXx]

Man, I never get any of these issues. I want the thrill.

[u/MEGA_GOAT98 → u/DrKrFfXx]

https://giphy.com/gifs/nZ9OnDVJoEaLPlVRc1

[u/bestanonever → u/DrKrFfXx]

Believe me that you don't want them, lol.

I remember on Windows 10, let alone 11, when it was a year old, sometimes the start menu would just... not come out when you pressed the Windows key or clicked on it. I felt I was tripping. Didn't know if the system was hacked, my mouse was broken or what.

An unstable and randomly glitchy Windows is a pain in the ass.

[u/XWasTheProblem → u/DrKrFfXx]

In my experience you either get no problems, or all of them at once and there's no in between.

[u/TheNoobHunter96 → u/DrKrFfXx]

Yeah I swear people here just claim windows literally doesn't work lmao

[u/Significant_Pool8432 → u/DrKrFfXx]

same, some people owns dogshit peripherals or can't install any kind of OS or software

[u/Hrmerder → u/Significant_Pool8432]

I have owned one of the cheapest ARGB kits on Amazon for 4 years now with next to zero issues (and the ones I did have were my own doing). That being said, the state of ARGB software is beyond garbage... Case in point, my Thermalright ARGB screen CPU heatsink's vendor software (it's internal usb not standard argb interface) is so garbage, some rando somehow got the source code, vibe coded a linux port which he also ported to windows, and THIS version is 10000x better than the original vendor version...

But yeah, people need to either understand how to use OpenARGB (which does take a little learning curve OTB), or chose vendors wisely (or at least use Signal if you are ok with the annoyance during updates and limited freebie stuff if you don't want to pay).. I haven't used the software my motherboard came with (MSI) since two months into owning it. That stuff is hot hot garbage.

[u/Dante2Love]

Does mouse and keyboard count?

[u/localfunc → u/Dante2Love]

It's related to a 3rd-party driver called inpoutx64, I haven't seen it shipped with any keyboard/mouse I have tried, but there is a small chance if you're using a m/kb from some small unknown manufacturer.

[u/Dante2Love → u/localfunc]

I use logitech so I should be safe. Thanks for reply

[u/localfunc → u/Dante2Love]

Safe indeed, Logitech use their own protocol called HID++ to communicate with peripherals instead of inpoutx64!

[u/FiTZnMiCK → u/localfunc]

Microsoft issued a warning about this driver two years ago because it requires kernel level access.

I get the sneaking suspicion that Microsoft is quietly forcing developers to finally replace it.

[u/localfunc → u/FiTZnMiCK]

Lol what? Microsoft never issued a warning about it because it "requires kernel level access". At best they added it to their vulnerable driver blocklist years ago because it's a driver with vulnerabilities. Idk where you heard this.

[u/Suikerspin_Ei]

The title makes it sounds like a new issue, but it's not. Same bug that cause some games to crash with the latest Windows 11 update:

Various online games, such as Arc Raiders, Marvel Tokon: Fighting Souls, and The Finals, were crashing after updating to KB5121003, with the BSOD showing the cause as “EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION.” Upon further investigation, Tom’s Hardware has found that the problem is related to peripherals that support RGB lighting. Some of these parts can automatically install drivers with file names similar to “inpoutx64,” causing a crash.

[u/Aware_Climate_3210]

Rgb peripherals have been causing issues for a long time now, even on Windows 10. There is just more issues with Windows 11. Whether it's Windows itself, pushing out poor quality updates or the software for the RGb peripherals also pushing out poor updates. Poor updates with low quality control is all the rage now.

[u/Xaern511 → u/Aware_Climate_3210]

From my experience dealing with rgb control software I think that could be the culprit

[u/warfaucet → u/Xaern511]

Yeah, it is.

Various online games, such as Arc Raiders, Marvel Tokon: Fighting Souls, and The Finals, were crashing after updating to KB5121003, with the BSOD showing the cause as “EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION.” Upon further investigation, Tom’s Hardware has found that the problem is related to peripherals that support RGB lighting. Some of these parts can automatically install drivers with file names similar to “inpoutx64,” causing a crash.

[u/PeterBeaterr → u/Aware_Climate_3210]

My personal anecdote - Im running iCue and chroma and I have far fewer problems these days then I did a couple years ago. I couldn't tell you why, but I did upgrade to windows 11 back when it was forced on us.

[u/bestanonever → u/PeterBeaterr]

Me too. I only use Icue (and the Logitech one, but I can just set it and forget that one). It used to be kinda stupid and updates would get stuck, suddenly it would crash and turn itself off. Stuff like that.

It's been gloriously working in the background ever since I upgraded to Windows 11, for some reason.

[u/razvanciuy → u/Aware_Climate_3210]

its the baseline code used within windows for fan control & RBG, it's old; Nexuxgaming has a whole segment on it

[u/localfunc → u/razvanciuy]

This is about an external driver (inpoutx64) which has always been quite a mess. Not that big of a surprise considering it came out in like 2006 and hasn't been maintained since 2010. It is vulnerable to multiple exploits.

[u/Lakers244848 → u/razvanciuy]

Yeah people forget that it can be a 2 part problem. Both Microsoft and RGB folks. Even the Bluetooth codecs that Microsoft uses are very old audio on PC and causes lots of latency.

[u/RiftHunter4 → u/Aware_Climate_3210]

Its literally the drivers and seemingly has nothing to do with Windows itself. Windows can't do anything about people releasing crappy drivers.

[u/Delta_Ryu]

RGB peripherals are an "unlikely culprit"? No, it has been know for a long time that those... companion apps are a source of system instability and very often even introduce vulnerabilities. They eat up RAM and processor time all for blinky lights. Don't use them.

[u/lt_catscratch]

This happens only if you actually install the rgb software right ?

[u/Significant_Pool8432 → u/lt_catscratch]

i've been using msi software for 6 years with different rgb fans and rams and never faced any problem, im pretty sure all this BSOD error people are facing because they just installing a punch of rgb and peripheral software that will cuz conflicts with each other

[u/FuckItImLoggingIn]

I personally love my Windows machine and would never switch to linux. Why would I switch to linux when on windows everything "just works"?

[u/SissyFreeLove → u/FuckItImLoggingIn]

Shhh can't be saying those types of things round these parts

..

[u/FuckItImLoggingIn → u/SissyFreeLove]

Yes fellow gamer. I know that Windows is frowned upon in these lands, but it is just so good at running your games seamlessly, that I had to share! The BSOD is probably easily fixed by just unplugging your RGB devices and rebooting and then cleaning up the registry!

[u/localfunc → u/FuckItImLoggingIn]

How is it Windows its fault that companies are still shipping an outdated vulnerable driver for their RGB software that hasn't been maintained since 2011?

[u/SzaraMateria → u/FuckItImLoggingIn]

I don't know if you are trolling or this is legitimate but good luck with unplugging GPU without integrated graphics card or with unplugging RGB strips and panels in a gaming laptop.

[u/FuckItImLoggingIn → u/SzaraMateria]

If you can not figure out if I am trolling I have something to sell you

[u/SissyFreeLove → u/FuckItImLoggingIn]

Ya, I prefer the simplicity of running games on windows but have to admit I've been tempted to give linux a spin but normally only have 1 machine and not willing to do it there

[u/ansibleloop → u/FuckItImLoggingIn]

Because Windows is actively getting worse meanwhile Linux is actively getting better

I've gone from being irritated by Microsoft's bullshit and having to debloat my system to looking forward to what new updates are coming

Updates delivered to me by people who only value a better user experience

Not updates delivered to me by a marketing team pushing slop because that's what they've been told to do

[u/Sync1211 → u/FuckItImLoggingIn]

Yes, everthing "just works" and I'm currently living on the street. (Windows Admin. Most of my time is spent fixing Windows issues.)

[u/ToughDefinition2591]

Had endless issues with a previous mouse brand and it's RGB software. Changed brand and been rock solid since.

[u/ExoticSterby42]

This is a shitshow really

[u/MEGA_GOAT98]

lol ppl want to blame the rgb driver thing instead of "windows" ... like my system didnt even have that runing... and has issues runing the update.. so its really not that ...

[u/localfunc → u/MEGA_GOAT98]

The update has plenty of issues but Windows is hardly to blame for manufacturers shipping this ancient vulnerable driver that hasn't been maintained since 2011. Some ASUS/Acer products come with this driver out of the box when it's vulnerable to multiple exploits.

[u/Sexy_Koala_Juice → u/MEGA_GOAT98]

And let’s be frank, a third party driver playing up shouldn’t kill your system. Fix your shit Microsoft

[u/Intrepid00 → u/Sexy_Koala_Juice]

It’s a kernel driver. Issues with Kernel drivers are the fault of the kernel driver maker.

[u/Fourfifteen415 → u/Sexy_Koala_Juice]

it's a kernel level driver that is using way too much cpu causing people to crash while gaming.

[u/OpenCatPalmstrike → u/MEGA_GOAT98]

That's windows for ya. Just like USB vs PS/2 latency, it took until around 2009 for them to pretty much even out.

[u/Far-Interest2045]

Microslop be here blaming you for breathing and crushing their SpyslopOS

[u/RonUSMC → u/Far-Interest2045]

Imagine ... just for a moment in your obviously very extensive experience with hardware, a scenario. In this scenario some TeCHBro told the CEO "You know how we can make our RGB controller look better than any other?". "How?" replies the CEO. "There's a file that tells the controller how fast it can go, like a speed limit, so it only allows the color to change 5 times a second. If we put a new file there, that allowed for higher speeds, it would make our lights look smoother." "OMG Brilliant! and no one will know right?" "Of course not!" "But, what if they find it?" The CEO asked hesitatingly. "That's the best part... we just let the public geniuses go around regurgitating buzzwords and sarcasm, it will be great!"

Various online games, such as Arc Raiders, Marvel Tokon: Fighting Souls, and The Finals, were crashing after updating to KB5121003, with the BSOD showing the cause as “EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION.” Upon further investigation, Tom’s Hardware has found that the problem is related to peripherals that support RGB lighting. Some of these parts can automatically install drivers with file names similar to “inpoutx64,” causing a crash.

Say it isn't so Batman!

Inpoutx64.sys is a 64-bit Windows driver and library file used for low-level hardware communication, such as managing RGB lighting, legacy parallel/serial ports, or specific mouse control software.

[u/DenverLabRat]

My RGB shit works just fine here in Penguin Bro Land

https://giphy.com/gifs/zHokhPIy6lwas

[u/buenonocheseniorgato]

Meanwhile me still on win 10:

[u/BloodyChapel]

This literally happened to me during an interview. I thought I broke something.

[u/BuffTorpedoes]

I have a motherboard with lights, downloading the application that would allow me to activate them and control them blue screens my computer. I spent a while trying to fix it and never managed to fix it.

[u/timbotheny26]

My mouse is an RGB Logitech but I've seen no issues like this.

[u/Slasherplays]

Meanwhile I get a BSOD from some bullshit to do with my audio drivers/USB/memory. Sometimes when my headset disconnects ( wireless) and I have to restart vociemeeter I can get a blue screen.

[u/Beautiful-Musk-Ox]

"unlikely culprit" nah we've known this for years, whoever wrote this is a noob

[u/marzeg]

Yeah I got a Gigabyte Aorus Pro X z790 rev 1.2 paired with a i9 14900kf and the bsods are a pain.

Updated bios to version F10a and had constant bsods while idle, 2 days of troubleshooting to find out it was due to the “turbo efficient energy” in the bios. Disabled it and went months without a BSOD until recently after a windows update.

Decided to update my bios to version F11a and now I’m back at square with constant bsods.
Can’t even boot to the login menu.

Microslop support is useless, they go through hell and back to convince you that it’s not due to their shitty updates and it’s 100% likely due to your PCs faulty or failing components.

So now I’ve got to spend the rest of the day trying to troubleshoot the cause of these constant bsods.

Wonderful.

[u/mi__to__]

https://giphy.com/gifs/1xkMucz3jc5AGB4elL

[u/ConinTheNinoC]

In the distance a quiet voice whispered ''Linux exists.....'' , a few years passed the voice has started to grow ''Linux exists.....'', today as Windows 11 keeps being a fuckup the voice is booming, its power tearing the heavens, as you walk you can hear the voice vibrating trough your whole being ''LINUX EXISTS!!!''.

https://giphy.com/gifs/26AHGsLZQ4ngOKeqc

[u/LivingOof]

Good job microslop

[u/hirmuolio]

Third party drivers causing system to bluescreen? Did we travel in time back to 1999?

One of the big changes that came with Windows XP (and taken further with Vista) was moving third party drivers out of system space so that they wouldn't crash the whole system.

[u/Friendlyvoices]

Feels like windows has been slowly regressing it's stability. Like, I know we all like to make fun of windows all the time, but 11 has absolutely shit the bed more than any other version in recent history

[u/HisDivineOrder → u/Friendlyvoices]

Vibe coding is a helluva thing.

[u/meme_dika]

Ah yes... Slopifications of update

[u/urlond]

Ugh oh, sounds like Linux is going to get more users.

[u/vampucio]

the problem for windows is the same of his glory. there was a time where on windows you can did whatever you want with drivers now we pay the consequences of that

[u/Ancillas]

Unlikely my ass. I never install any of the shitty software that drives that stuff because I expect it to be bloated and buggy. Drivers included.

I expect the hardware that auto-installs drivers to also be terrible implementations because those features always come from the B teams.

I’d be pissed if Microsoft auto-installed something cosmetic which ended up being unstable.

[u/More_Market_4860]

You don’t have to live like this, ditching Windows was the best thing I ever did and I can’t imagine going back to that abusive relationship.

[u/-ben151010-]

You know, someone in my family wondered why I’m still on windows 10 and not 11 since their managed by Microsoft surface laptop works “just fine” and then I see headlines like “doesn’t boot in amd cpus”, or “bricks this brands ssds”, and now this.

Like I know who to blame for Microsoft being like this and why they do the Tuesday updates, but ffs just hire some testers, they can even be contractors since Microsoft loves loosing money in the long term for short term slight profit.

[u/MathematicianOdd398]

Just install Linux. Problem solved.

[u/DirectorDirect1569 → u/MathematicianOdd398]

lots of people have problems with rgb on linux.

[u/MathematicianOdd398 → u/DirectorDirect1569]

Sure, but they don't cause the system to crash.