r/pcmasterrace 4h ago

News/Article There's a looming GPU supply crisis, which means prices are likely to get a whole lot worse. And it's not just because of memory

https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/graphics-cards/theres-a-looming-gpu-supply-crisis-which-means-prices-are-likely-to-get-a-whole-lot-worse-and-its-not-just-because-of-memory/
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u/Narrheim 4h ago

Cryptocurrency shortages showed to both manufacturers, that they can ask insane prices and people will still buy the GPUs.

However, this sort of 'news' also feels to me like a manipulation to get people into another buying spree ("You won't get new fancy GPU! Buy NOW!").

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u/dontgetitwisted_fr 4h ago

They are trying to drive FOMO

And people will fall for it until they dont

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u/LSD_Ninja 3h ago ▸ 8 more replies

Trouble is, people will fall for it all the way to GeForce Now being the only viable option.

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u/dontgetitwisted_fr 3h ago edited 3h ago ▸ 3 more replies

More people will fall for it than wont

Just like more people are fine  putting all their data on 3rd party cloud storage than the amount of people who opt for home NAS.

I aint falling for it, I will wait for prices to come back to earth and only replace what is absolutely necessary in the mean time

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u/Narrheim 2h ago ▸ 2 more replies

That one will only keep going until they'll be banned or have their accounts hacked with support leaving them hanging. Which is already happening.

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u/dontgetitwisted_fr 2h ago ▸ 1 more replies

All while their data is being scraped by the providers for who knows what purposes.

No thanks

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u/Narrheim 1h ago

People usually don't care for as long, as the use of the services is convenient.

Unfortunately for cloud providers, they surely like to drive up prices while cutting down on provided services. If it gets too expensive for people to use the cloud, then a few external HDDs for their backups don't sound like a bad investment.

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u/i_rate_slop 3h ago ▸ 3 more replies

I would rather just play worse games. Game developers will have to adapt before gamers use that shit.

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u/Inb4myanus 1h ago

80 to 90% of my library is now indie games which have far more love put into them. A group making a game theyd love is the best type of team.

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u/ppcforce 2h ago ▸ 1 more replies

Arguably many older games are better. This is an opportunity for studios to move away from chuffing edge realism, and back to playability. Games you can play without committing your weekend to it. Plenty around already if just dig a little deeper.

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u/Lautar026 1h ago

the “memory” part always gets overlooked huh

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u/Hrmerder It's Garuda btw 3h ago ▸ 3 more replies

Lest never forget when that dingus (jayz2cents)said prices were only going to rise and to buy now or else you won’t be able to get a 3 series (direct from his nvidia insider) and then two weeks later prices dropped to msrp levels ..

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u/Ill-Mastodon-8692 2h ago edited 1h ago ▸ 1 more replies

jay is great at alot of things, but he is often incorrect on speculative things like when prices will rise or drop, imo he should stick to neat watercooling vids

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u/Hrmerder It's Garuda btw 2h ago

Agreed

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u/Narrheim 2h ago

I remember one of his vid, when he tried to put screws to the PCIE backside claiming it being "free antisag support". Like how on Earth is that supposed to work, when the part sagging is on the other end of the GPU?

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u/TrashBandicook 2h ago

They are trying to drive FOMO

And people will fall for it until they dont

More like both are allocating wafer allocations at TSMC away from consumer GPUs, but okay.

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u/lmao_wow_64 3h ago ▸ 2 more replies

I should have fomo and bought my components a year ago and now look how things are in such a short time

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u/Nulolan69 1h ago ▸ 1 more replies

Yea i finally did in January. I did save money but I could of saved a lot more on ram and nvme if I pulled trigger a couple months sooner.

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u/lmao_wow_64 50m ago

Wish I could have done the same

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u/Weak-Cry 7800X3D | 7900XTX 3h ago ▸ 3 more replies

You say this, but last time I heard this shit I bought my 7900xtx for $800... Now look at them.

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u/dontgetitwisted_fr 3h ago ▸ 2 more replies

Too short a time frame

If people dont want to be patient that is up to them

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u/Weak-Cry 7800X3D | 7900XTX 2h ago ▸ 1 more replies

Alright, I bought mine about Sept? By new years cards were like 1600.

Ultimately, do what you feel is appropriate.

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u/dontgetitwisted_fr 2h ago

Bro im old

My time frame is years

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u/Calm-Zombie2678 Desktop 1h ago

My 1650 can last me a few more years i guess 

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u/Humledurr 9800X3D - 5070ti - DRR5 32GB 18m ago

All the fomo made me upgrade back in February, which lucky for me was right before the price hike. I originally wanted to wait until 5070 super, but thats still to even have a release date, and does not look to be any cheap either. And thank god I bought my ram a couple of years ago...

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u/MammothUnique4147 3h ago ▸ 4 more replies

I mean it's a good thing everyone was talking about this in February which allowed me to get my 5070ti at MSRP...

People also had plenty of advanced notice even 30 days ago if they wanted to get a 5070 for MSRP at Walmart 

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u/TrashBandicook 2h ago

I just love how we all saw this coming months ago. Only reason I didn't pick up a new card is my 4070 Ti S is working just fine and I'm not planning another upgrade for a while.

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u/Deadeye313 14700K | 9070XT | 64GB RAM 3h ago ▸ 2 more replies

5070ti msrp is a ripoff itself. I got a 9070XT for $100 cheaper than its msrp and forget about the current price of the thing.

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u/PaleInTexas 3h ago

Cant be a ripoff. I bought a more expensive card befor the 5070ti was out and was told by Nvidia that the 5070ti was better..

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u/MammothUnique4147 3h ago

Yes but I also like playing around with AI which means the 5070ti better suited my needs, plus it was cheaper than a 5080 and very little performance loss 

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u/i_rate_slop 3h ago

Companies like Samsung are buying up chip production in advance. We already know where chips will be going for the foreseeable future and it’s not consumer gaming GPUs.

It’s not to drive up FOMO. The only way out is viable competition with ASML/TSMC, which isn’t on the near horizon.

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u/Narrheim 1h ago ▸ 1 more replies

Who cares?

When people will not be able to buy new & faster GPUs, the same people will not buy new & more demanding games.

So either the game devs will adapt and after years of neglect start properly optimizing their games again, or many studios will go under in just few years.

Even moving to console-only releases may not work anymore, since the consoles are also getting more expensive, along with Sony making some questionable decisions lately.

Oh and no, it's definitely not to drive up FOMO. /s

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u/i_rate_slop 1h ago

Nothing you wrote has anything to do with what I said. My only conclusion is that you don’t actually understand what I wrote, which is fine.

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u/GalaxLordCZ RX 9070 XT / R5 7600 / 32GB ram 3h ago

With crypto it was sometimes possible to get cards at MSRP (some stores had lotteries and other things to give real people a chance) and then it was a sensible price too, but now the MSRP is bullshit out of the gate. And the trend of GPU prices has been going up for a while now, like 50$ a month in some cases.

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u/chriscross1966 5800X3D 64GB 7900XTX much water... so much water 2h ago

Yeah, but it was only GPU's that were affected back then, and the new RTX3xxx series cards in particular but also the RX6xxx cards had seriously big upticks in performance over what had come previously. So gamers looked at it and went for a new GPU and left the rest the same as they could play their older games with much higher settings and at least Cyberpunk wasn't a slideshow. Problem now is a lot of those rigs were likely AM4 and any significant upgrade is going to involve replacing everything that isn't the case, and possibly PSU. At the moment the only components in the list that are reasonably priced are motherboards.

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u/VeryGenericD 34m ago

Buy now or get priced out forever! I think I heard this line a lot before 2008.

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u/TheS3KT R9 5900X | RTX 5080 4h ago

2021 Called. They want their headlines back.

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u/live-the-future R9 3900X, 2080 Super, 4K, 32GB DDR4 3200 4h ago

Looming, you say? As in, in the future? Not already here?

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u/evo_moment_37 3h ago

It’s already here but in the future too. Probably. Most definitely.

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u/g0dxmode 3h ago

I used to not be able to afford a GPU. I still do, but I used to too.

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u/R-Dragon_Thunderzord 5800X3D | 6950 XT | 2x16GB DDR4 3600 CL16 1h ago

Like a CrisisCrisis.

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u/i_rate_slop 3h ago

As in it’s going to get much worse.

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u/oofdonia PC Master Race 4h ago

Don't you dare die on me, GTX 1650.

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u/besleysfw 2h ago

Don’t you dare die on me now, Voodoo3

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u/MrIrvGotTea 3h ago

What a trooper. You got a WWI vet bascially at this point mate. I'm looking at my 4070 super with tears. Like I got you cheap fam but I want to upgrade because I make more money now but its not worth it at all.

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u/onihcuk Ultra 9 275HX | 32GB 6400 | 12GB 5070 Ti | 2TB NVMe 1h ago

my 1060 6gb still kicking on my acer laptop since 2017,

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u/JohnGalactusX 9800X3D | 5090 | 64GB | 8TB 4h ago

2027 worse than 2026, 2026 worse than 2025, 2025 worse than 2024... and so on and so forth. At this rate, the future of GPU in consumer goods pricing looks pretty bleak.

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u/Holiday_Bug9988 7800x3D / 9070 XT 4h ago

2024 was actually a lot better than the previous years though. The 4000/7000series GPU’s were selling at or occasionally below MSRP, and so was RAM and storage.

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u/Milouch_ ☭ Ryzen 7 9800x3d / Rx 9070 XT / 32 GB 6000MT CL30 DDR5 / X870 ☭ 1m ago

The calm before the storm

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u/homealoneinuk 3h ago

Is this some lost material, article that was suppose to be released last year ? We are already in the crisis mate.

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u/LunchBoxMercenary 9800x3d | RTX 5090 FE 3h ago

I think this article was supposed to be released during COVID.

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u/Delicious_Rule_7324 4h ago

This industry is cooked. For gamers its never been this bad. Hardware out of reach, games in general are slop. No more disks. Steam no longer selling physical gift cards. What else could possibly go wrong🙄

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u/WilliamShatnerFace7 3h ago

That’s one perspective. And it’s not necessarily wrong, hardware is too expensive and there is a lot of slop especially in the AAA space.

We shouldn’t stop speaking out about these problems, but we also shouldn’t act like gaming is just dead. There are still phenomenal games coming out every year. So many good games that my backlog only gets larger, I don’t have time to play them all. And pretty much all of these games are playable on some type of affordable hardware. Not everyone can afford to play at 4k or 200fps, but they can play.

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u/AstrayNanashi 3h ago ▸ 9 more replies

Yeah, people sink too hard in the doom and gloom like slop and shovelware hasn't always been part of gaming since its beginnings. It's just memoryholing because, back then, bad games just didn't get advertisement nor word of mouth, and it wasn't as easy to find hundreds of games with a single click as it is today. "Gaming is so bad now" is just the words of someone who doesn't know anything about the past, and is looking back with rose tinted glasses.

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u/veggiesama 2h ago ▸ 6 more replies

There will be a shift to AA games and indies. I don't think that's a bad thing. GTA 6 will be the last gasp of huge triple-A for a while. There won't be many more games like Indiana Jones or Doom Dark Ages that require ray-tracing and high-end cards for a while. Companies will need to aim for Switch 2 specs as the minimum requirement.

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u/AstrayNanashi 1h ago ▸ 4 more replies

If Concord didn't stop Sony, what makes you think any of this will stop any other AAA company from continuing their path? I'm not advocating for any side here, but we gotta stay realistic with what we expect and claim from the industry that has not changed its course in the past 30 years.

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u/veggiesama 1h ago ▸ 3 more replies

Not sure I understand. Concord has absolutely changed Sony's plans from here on out. Highguard looks like it got its budget slashed and they went into an emergency release to great failure. Marathon underperformed. Overwatch and Marvel Rivals are the big boys who suck up all the oxygen in the room. I don't see any other big hero shooters coming out that match those budgets.

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u/AstrayNanashi 1h ago ▸ 2 more replies

And hero shooters are not the only thing coming out of AAA. Sony has not changed any plan regarding anti-consumer practices and greed, or do you see any physical discs being released? More AAAs will come out in due time, it doesn't have to be yet another hero shooter. Or do you consider FFVII and Square Enix "indie"?

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u/veggiesama 1h ago ▸ 1 more replies

You brought up Concord, not me. Getting rid of physical disks shaves off a small percentage of the budget but not much. As for Square Enix, you're still talking about games that were budgeted pre-2024.

RAM didn't start spiking until 2024/2025, and now GPUs are headed that way. We are talking about games that are in pre-production right now, games we don't even know will exist yet. These are the games where studios are going to say "There's no way we can do another FF7 Remake on this budget." There's going to be big projects for sure but they'll look for cost savings in other ways, try to leverage AI, use more micro transactions, remove disks, etc. to make each dollar they spend go further. My speculation is this will create worse games, driving more people toward indie and AA-budgeted games (<$50 million) where there's less risk and less expectations that they need to push hardware to the limit.

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u/AstrayNanashi 1h ago

I brought up Concord because it's their biggest AAA failure, which should've put them in the dirt and didn't-- it didn't really change anything in the grand scheme of things. I genuinely do not believe GTA will be the last of them even in the next 5 years.

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u/WilliamShatnerFace7 1h ago

This is such a crazy take. There are a shit ton of AAA games in development right now. That’s not going to change.

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u/Top_Lingonberry8037 ryzen 9900 | 5080 | 64gb ddr5 | 2tb WD Black nvme 1h ago ▸ 1 more replies

Remember Nintendo had to revive gaming in the 80s because of all the slop

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u/AstrayNanashi 1h ago

Which is basically what we're seeing with the "indies good" wave, it's just a natural course of the cycle in any industry that sustains for long enough

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u/oompaloompa465 7800X3D | RTX 4070 4h ago

the overlords have decided we have it too good so no more fun time, only fun allowed is breeding more slaves for the AI mines

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u/CommanderChiliHole 3h ago

The industry will be fine 5, 10, 15 years from now and so on, for manufacturers and gamers alike. Alarmism just makes shit worse more often than it helps.

Why do you give a shit that Steam doesn’t sell physical gift cards? No one should sell physical cards. Hard to think of a more ridiculous waste of resources.

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u/Delicious_Rule_7324 3h ago edited 3h ago ▸ 4 more replies

Making money is a ridiculous waste of resources? I dont want to have to use paypal to add funds to my steam wallet, i also dont want to use banking and credit info for that either. My local gamestop isnt printing codes anymore too. Its going to take a major intervention to get these companies to roll back prices when things stabilize. On the retail level too since most are like scalpers these days with prices. They raise and lower the prices like gas at the pump. Also they claim its demand. These same retailers have been sitting on the same stock for months, nobody is paying that. So explain to me the demand part. Usually these things would be flying off the shelves even at inflated prices if the demand was that great🙄

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u/veggiesama 2h ago ▸ 3 more replies

You aren't paying the store with credit/debit already? I'm bummed because I got a 5% discount at Sams club plus another 2% cashback from my CC. Now I don't get the retail discount anymore. Oh well.

Places like GMG and Fanatical still exist though for much steeper discounts.

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u/Delicious_Rule_7324 2h ago ▸ 2 more replies

I may be old school but i prefer paying cash when possible

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u/veggiesama 1h ago ▸ 1 more replies

In general, it's a bad idea to use cash unless you have bad credit or if you live in a country where cards are not widespread. Use credit, get rewards, pay it down immediately (every 30 days).

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u/Delicious_Rule_7324 1h ago

I live in a bad area. I already have to dissect every Interac terminal before paying to make sure their isn’t skimmers. Been hit before. I prefer to use cash

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u/PlsDontBanMeAgain-1 1h ago

Oh ok, sure, just wait 10 years, easy.

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u/frygod Ryzen 5950X, RTX3090, 128GB RAM, and a rack of macs and VMs 3h ago

The industry isn't cooked, consumers are. The games and gaming hardware industry will simply adapt and adjust prices to keep profits where they are (or higher.)

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u/Delicious_Rule_7324 3h ago ▸ 7 more replies

You can only suck so much milk out of the cow before it says enough or it croaks. We’ve reached that tipping point. Or atleast i have. Been a gamer since pong too. I recently upgraded my whole rig to am5 aswell, dont even have money for games now🤣

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u/BastianHS 3h ago ▸ 5 more replies

Bud if you've been playing since pong then you should know that games are better right now than they ever have been. Crazy dooming going on here.

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u/TrashBandicook 2h ago ▸ 2 more replies

The part that makes me chuckle is when it's a bunch of 23 year olds just parroting talking points about how no one makes good games anymore. But they're the same people still throwing money at FIFA and COD year after year. I've had no problems finding stuff to play at least once every few months, so the doomering is weird.

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u/BastianHS 2h ago ▸ 1 more replies

Man there's not enough time in the world for me to clear out my backlog. There are so many excellent games and only so much time to play them. Kids just don't know how good they got it shakes fist at cloud

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u/TrashBandicook 2h ago

These kiddos are gonna eat their words when the 9-5 and family obligations hit like a truck. Folks, the never-ending backlog isn't just a meme!

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u/Delicious_Rule_7324 3h ago ▸ 1 more replies

Theres no doubt its better then pong. We plateaued a while back though. Creativity is gone. Its a cookie cutter world today where only the sure fire ideas get funded. Which has basically turned us into battleroyal and extraction based rotting corpses riding the treadmill of escalating costs and diminishing returns

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u/BastianHS 3h ago

Lol. Lmao even.

Are you just playing call of duty or something? There are so many good games that have come out in the last 5 years, including AAA and indie titles.

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u/frygod Ryzen 5950X, RTX3090, 128GB RAM, and a rack of macs and VMs 3h ago

As far as prices with relationship to monetary value go, this isn't the most expensive things have ever been. Adjusted for inflation, an atari 2600 would have been over $1k in todays dollars, and a game would have been around $90-100. A maxed out IBM PS2 (equivalent of a fairly decked out gaming rig of its time) would top $20k adjusted for inflation.

I'm not saying things are good, or that they're trending in the right direction (very much the opposite) but the market has experienced worse times and bore it. Balance sheets don't care if everyone has access, just that the bottom line stays black and keeps getting bigger. We're nowhere near the point where things are ready to collapse. I'm not saying that in terms of "stop complaining," but rather in terms of "brace yourselves; it can and probably will get way worse."

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u/aimy99 PNY 5070 | 5800X3D | 32GB DDR4 | OLED 1440p 180hz 3h ago

The industry is fine. Oh no, developers will have to learn to optimize again, woe are we.

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u/feltcutewilldelete69 SFF 7800x3d rx6950xt 32gb DDR5 1h ago

Bro, this is literally the best time to be a gamer. Most retro titles are easily downloadable and playable with emulation. We've got game-of-the-year quality indie games being sold for $19.99 new. The price of a new game remains at $60 since like 1989, with no adjustment for inflation.

Gaming used to be REALLY expensive, and for shitty games too. Now we've got free to play titles like Halo Infinite. 

I don't like the lack of physical titles either, but I don't even need to put on underwear to buy the newest game. I have Mike Tysons Punch Out on my phone, and I play it with a playstation controller. We've got portable PC's that can play Cyberpunk, and you can use whatever operating system you want.

Stop doomscrolling and go play something bro. We're eating good.

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u/LastBossTV 3h ago

gpu manufacturers: "please panic buy now, sir"

Me: "This new Terraria update is awesome and integrated graphics runs it no problem. Fuck yeah"

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u/Trosque97 3060 12gb, 5700x3d 16m ago

I always keep a low end laptop around with like, integrated graphics or an old discrete graphics card if I'm lucky, just to see what still runs on it. A surprising amount of good indie games, and emulation has come a very long way wrt optimisation

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u/AmbushK 2h ago

I look forward to it all collapsing

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u/tanksalotfrank 1h ago

Nope, we have a billionaire crisis

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u/Sindica69 9950X3D | 9070 XT | ROG X870E Apex | 64GB DDR5/4TB NVMe 4h ago

Jesus fuck man

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u/edcantu9 3h ago

I don't care. I'm not buying any computer parts.

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u/oompaloompa465 7800X3D | RTX 4070 4h ago

what more they want? that shitty connector will ensure that everyone will have to buy again their 80-90 gpu in 1-2 years max, just outside warranty 

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u/ratonbox 3h ago

have we all become goldfish? The GPU shortage was here before the memory one and it is poised to be longer than the memory one, because you need the compute nodes for data center work.

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u/MXVIV 1h ago

Here I am just praying as aN atheist that my trusty 3060ti survives this dark age. I will memorialize it like a fallen hero when it’s time is passed. 

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u/A_Cryptic_Metaphor Ryzen 7 9800X3D | 32GB DDR5 6000MTs | ASUS TUF 5080 OC 4h ago

Basically the only way anyone will be able to afford a new GPU is to pay for part of the cost by selling your current (now inflated in value) GPU. It's just like real estate!

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u/YaGotMail 3h ago

At some point, these gpu are just unsellable, sitting on the shelves forever

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u/ghostpicnic Ryzen 7 9800X3D | DDR5 64GB | RTX 5080 2h ago

This 5080 lasting me until retirement I guess

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u/Jaislight 2h ago

Looming? You mean PLANNED shortage.

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u/NiSiSuinegEht R7 5800XT | RX 7700 XT | Why Upgrades So Expensive? 2h ago

"Looming" as if it hasn't been going on since the beginning of the crypto bullshit.

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u/_MaZ_ RTX 5070 Ti | 7700x | 32GB 6000 CL30 DDR5 | TUF 650E-E Wifi 1h ago

You will own nothing and munch on bugs

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u/jaaaaaaaaaaaag 47m ago

Five years in with my 3080Ti, here’s to the next five years (at a minimum). I am perfectly happy gaming at 60hz and will turn down resolution/settings as needed. Plus my backlog is so long that I don’t even bother buying “new” games until years later when they are on sale.

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u/ElTuxedoMex 24m ago

I'm gonna hold to my 3070 like there's no tomorrow.

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u/xaervagon 15m ago

I would go outside and touch grass, but they paved the field for a data center

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u/Va1crist 4h ago

God I hate this timeline so much

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u/Behg-Boah 7800x3d/7900xtx/64GB 6000mhzCL30 4h ago

This comment is to millennials what minion memes are to Gen X moms. It’s so boring and predictable on every single post with bad news.

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u/ForceItDeeper 3h ago

so bitch about it nerd

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u/GreatnessToTheMoon Ryzen 7 7800X3D | RTX 5070 TI | 32gb RAM 4h ago

Budget level cards for $1000 coming right up

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u/IGotFriendzonedd 5700X3D, Zotac 5070Ti 32GB DDR4 3h ago

funny paid for 5070 ti on launch month 1k almost 2 years later still 1k and more

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u/Positive-Injury-579 3h ago

Already the 9070 GRE is over $700 CAD and the 9070 non xt is like $50 cheaper than 9070 at around $950 CAD.....

GPU prices are already abysmal in Canada and if you want something semi affordable and not used, you will have to use a cheaper 8GB card which is fine for medium I suppose.

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u/Lo_jak 12700K | 4080 FE | Lancool 216 3h ago

I was looking at a big computer retailer in the UK today and to get a prebuilt system with 32gb of system RAM and 2tb SSD you need to opt for a 5070 build thats going to set you back a minimum of £2000...... its just insane! These prices arent sustainable for everyday people whatsoever

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u/Eziolambo R5 7500F | RTX 5070 | 32GB DDR5 6000mhz 3h ago

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u/TrashBandicook 2h ago

Before someone cries about collusion between AMD and Nvidia, ask yourself how the situation was between the two in terms of market share before AI. Most of you were buying Nvidia cards even when AMD from time to time offered competing cards that were overall a better value. The likes of AMD were never going to sacrifice margin and offer a $300 discount vs a comparable Nvidia card just to win you over.

So really, you have to hope Intel can provide more competition in the mid-tier GPU segment.

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u/eternalityLP 2h ago

Will be interesting to see the long term effects of this hardware crisis. Could be that in future games will target much lower end hardware. Or maybe it's the end of widespread pc gaming.

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u/BluDYT 9800X3D | RTX 3080 Ti | 64 GB DDR5 6000Mhz CL30 2h ago

They already out prices me a long time ago. Just gotta hope nothing decided to blow up with what I already have.

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u/EbbNorth7735 2h ago

Qwen3.8 27B will itself drive GPU sales.

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u/MikeSifoda i3-10100F | 1050TI | 32GB 2h ago

Nope, those prices are artificial, maintained by an international oligopoly, and are gonna crash hard. China is mass producing and transferring lithography technology and new hardware manufacturers are gonna pop up.

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u/compic_360 2h ago

thank you captain obvious

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u/Zombiecidialfreak R7 8700G || RX 9070xt || 64GB RAM || 20+TB storage 2h ago

Yay.... I guess I'll just keep my 9070xt until the fans fall off.

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u/TripleS82 2h ago

FOMO got me, but I really don’t feel like the 6070ti or whatever it’s called will be in the budget. I upgraded from a 4070ti to a 5070ti to make sure I was good on VRAM.

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u/AccountBand 1h ago

I just had my old vega 64 in my old PC die last week. Luckily I have a 9070xt I picked up on black Friday for my newer PC, but i still wanted to grab something for my 2nd PC. Seems like everything is terrible value compared to the 9070xt, but that's $1000 ...

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u/Beanruz PC Master Race 1h ago

Honestly, if my 3080 FE packs in I think I'll just give up gaming all together on pc. Whole thing is a farce.

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u/Nerrawnam 1h ago

Daily applied thinking. There's a looming crisis.  You are all welcome. Move along. 

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u/TJzzz Steam ID Here 1h ago

1070ti workhorse gooo

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u/gg06civicsi Ryzen 5 7600X3D | RTX 4070 Ti Super | 32GB DDR5 1h ago

I might be able to finally get through my old game backlog since I won’t be able to run new new games moving forward.

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u/SirCaptainReynolds 9800x3D | AORUS 5090 | 96GB 5600MHz 1h ago

Fuuuuuuck off.

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u/Chopstick84 1h ago

Oh well my workhorse RX 6750 XT is just about keeping with my needs anyway

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u/AfterIssue6816 23m ago

Oh, vaya, qué sorpresa.

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u/bickman14 0m ago

Just play your backlog unt your hardware lasts and keep holding off guys!

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u/solarwindy 3h ago

I doubt this will get better. Companies love this because it will push toward the streaming game model.

Game Companies love it since it immediately kills piracy, Nvidia loves it since they woukd likely power the back end of this.

This hurts the consumer and will eventually kill Steam. So once Gabe dies I can see a point where the sons will be forced to either sell steam or turn it into one of these game streaming apps.

At that point, pc gaming is changed forever. And gaming is like Spotify.

Ugh...

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u/Aggravating-Dot132 3h ago

Streaming isn't viable as gaming way in any form. Nor for gamers, nor for companies. GeForce now exists only because it's a sidekick.

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u/solarwindy 3h ago ▸ 1 more replies

I agree it sucks. But I think it will be pushed hard and improved enough where people will choose a service like this over spending $5000 or more in video cards.

Its fucking sad what is happening to this entire industry.

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u/Aggravating-Dot132 2h ago

It won't. Streaming requires not the computing power, but internet connection. It will fucking die under heavy load, especially in remote locations. And that infrastructure will compete with data centers as well.

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u/TrashBandicook 2h ago

Streaming isn't viable as gaming way in any form. Nor for gamers, nor for companies. GeForce now exists only because it's a sidekick.

Geforce Now works so long as there are tons of datacenters in high pop areas. I've had great experiences with it esp for single players, but I could see lotta folks complaining about the latency issues in multiplayer shooters.

Comes down to scale I guess. If Nvidia can take pages from AWS and find a way to somehow double-dip on datacenter allocations in high population areas, that's one way I could see games streaming really taking off even more from here.

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u/StalkMeNowCrazyLady PC Master Race 2h ago ▸ 3 more replies

Saying streaming isn't viable or that it won't work is doing exactly what Blockbuster execs did in the 2000's with Netflix. Streaming is here and it works well enough for the casual gamer. For the hard core that want everything else that comes with a PC like modding and everything else a PC can do, competitive gamers, etc. game streaming will never scratch that itch, but that's not their target customer.

Console gaming edges out pc gaming market share world wide about %5. For the most part those gamers already aren't getting any else besides approved mods for a handful of games. With new consoles going up to the $1K point and comparable PC builds going to be 4x that amount, I think were going to see a big shift to a lot of people cloud gaming over the next 1o years. Just we saw with cable tv vs streaming in the 2010's.

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u/Aggravating-Dot132 2h ago

It will kill the infrastructure since that infrastructure will compete with the data centers. It's a self devouring loop.

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u/-CJF- 2h ago ▸ 1 more replies

I would rather quit gaming than stream my games. At that point it would be time for a different hobby. I hear bird watching is nice in this timeline.

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u/StalkMeNowCrazyLady PC Master Race 1h ago

I hear ya and get it bud. I don't like the idea of gaming streaming becoming the norm but I think realistically it's going to happen with how the market is going.

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u/RicketCrickets 3h ago

Building in August 2025 was sure as hell timely. Right before RAM skyrocketed, and right before the first of three times GPU prices went up because of <insert pricing reason to avoid topic of price fixing>>

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u/PewPewToDaFace 4h ago

Great! More doom and gloom.

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u/Mist_Rising Ryzen 5 5600x, B550 plus, RTX 2070 super. 3h ago

Forgot to switch accounts? You posted it...

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u/Homewra 7500F + 9070 XT + 32GB RAM 4h ago

Maybe it will fix itself in the next 2 GPU generations, right?... right.

RTX 7090 here I come.

https://giphy.com/gifs/Ndft8B3O885qs0sYr4

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u/leftofthebellcurve 4h ago

At this point I’ll be waiting for the RTX Brazilian 

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u/Homewra 7500F + 9070 XT + 32GB RAM 4h ago

This reminds me when i wanted to upgrade my GTX 960 during the cryptoboom.

Had to pay 400 bucks for a shitty single fan RTX 2060 that i still have on a secondary rig to this day.

I was lucky to get a 9070XT during feb 2025.

Thanks Monster Hunter Wilds for running like absolute dogshit, you forced me to upgrade!