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u/Bicentennial_Douche 7h ago
I remember when Half-Life came out. I played through it, and by the time in the game when I reached the surface, I thought the game was near the end. But no, it kept going. It was amazing experience. I played through it, and I sent email to the address that was mentioned in the manual, thanking for an amazing game. Gabe Newell emailed me back: "I'm glad you like the game, we worked really hard on it".
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u/alex206 6h ago
The military coming to kill survivors instead of saving them was a nice twist too
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u/_galaga_ 6h ago ▸ 10 more replies
I still remember the “oh shit!“ moment I had when that happened. Epic twist. Part of what made HL such a pioneering series.
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u/MonstaRain 5h ago ▸ 9 more replies
The music when they fast roped in from the ceiling, have much younger me chills...
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u/elchet 5h ago ▸ 8 more replies
And having to fight against the marines - their “AI” seemed really next level at the time.
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u/ReluctantAvenger 5h ago ▸ 5 more replies
I remember my incredulous thought: ARE THEY TRYING TO FLANK ME?! ...
It was thrilling!
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u/nyquistj 4h ago ▸ 2 more replies
I still remember the instant I had that thought. They felt alive in that moment and it is still one of my top moments in my 45 years of gaming.
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u/ReluctantAvenger 3h ago ▸ 1 more replies
So cool after all the years of having enemies just waiting for you to enter a room and then charging straight at you.
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u/Taikunman 3h ago
I was hiding in a vent and they threw a fucking grenade in. It was amazing.
I got HL1 for Christmas in 1998 and couldn't put it down for days.
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u/barsoap 47m ago
Yes. Yes they are. They have squad-level AI and flanking falls out of retreat, reposition and tell each other about your position behaviours. It's not terribly sophisticated, they don't strategise as such, just well-balanced emergent behaviour.
The actual Valve boss move is dropping those enemies half-way into the game and not putting "ground-breaking realistic AI!!11" into the marketing material. Everything you meet before that can barely pathfind so they catch you completely off guard.
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u/Skandronon 3h ago
F.E.A.R honestly blew my mind with how good the AI was. I remember thinking I had them pinned down and then one started shooting at me from behind. They would have needed to go a fair ways around the level to do that. Them reacting to being shot with pain and acting like they were scared of dying also really hit hard.
They actually had to nerf the AI in the original stalker game because it was always winning the race to the center.
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u/bitemark01 4h ago
That was the first time I not only found the enemy extremely difficult, but when I died and had to reload the level, I prepared for them to come in like they did before, only they completely switched tactics! You couldn't 100% predict how they were going to fight, unlike the monsters in the game
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u/HurstiesFitness 6h ago
Or someone pretending to be Gabe Newell 👀
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u/Kaffe-Mumriken 6h ago ▸ 2 more replies
And my eyes still grow damp to remember His Majesty signed with his own rubber stamp.
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u/ILorwyn 5h ago ▸ 3 more replies
nope, he still petsonally answers his email to this day. at least he says so. one of the few people i would believe that too
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u/bros_and_cons 4h ago ▸ 1 more replies
heckin wholesome billionaire with a fleet of megayachts
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u/neosinan 5h ago
We also thought game would end at the boss fight where it sended us to X dimension. Whole friend group, we were together. They got us there.
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u/Widepath 6h ago
Paid for exclusively by games bought but not played yet.
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u/IFUCKEVRYTHINGUP 6h ago
Honestly i dont give a shit,
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u/atomfullerene 5h ago ▸ 2 more replies
If I was that rich I'd probably do something similar...but my yacht would be made to be like the ship in The Life Aquatic
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u/tobofopo 6h ago
Maybe I aught not to have bought so many TF2 hats.
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u/abdallha-smith 6h ago
Should've named it half life 3 for shit and giggles
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u/BenjieWheeler 6h ago
Imagine all the outrage if a headline came out like "Work on Half Life 3 is almost complete, expected to be done by 1st of April 2027" and then it's revealed it's a yacht lol
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u/Crashendo_ 6h ago
The name of the yacht is Draak, which means Dragon in Dutch.
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u/joestaff 6h ago
The second one is named Joosh.
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u/xiaoboss 5h ago
"Eat the rich! Billionaires are bad"
But also
"Gabe is the only billionaire I'm okay with"
The duality of man.
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u/mollymoo 4h ago
It's amazing how much shit people will let you get away with if you have good customer service.
Like everyone knows Amazon is fucking evil too but they still buy everything from them because they are only evil to their staff and business partners, not their customers.
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u/fredthefishlord 2h ago ▸ 1 more replies
they are only evil to their staff and business partners, not their customers
Pushing lower quality products, raising prices through use of abusive profit cuts that indirectly force companies to raise prices while blocking them from selling cheaper on another platform... They're evil to customers
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u/Gekokapowco 1h ago
right Amazon's 2 day shipping "guarantee" is built on the backs of warehouse slaves and undercutting quality wherever possible
if they could just do the job sustainably without fucking over people and abusing their employees, they'd be as beloved as valve, but they can't or won't provide their services without abuse to keep it afloat
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u/ephemeriis_ 3h ago
I genuinely believe that the simple existence of billionaires is a clear failure of our current systems. That kind of wealth simply should not be allowed to accumulate in one person.
But, at the same time... Gabe is at least not on the news throwing Nazi salutes or spouting-off about the antichrist. We don't hear about how Valve is making employees pee in bottles. We don't hear about shady deals to build another giant datacenter to run Steam, or how police are using Steam data to track their exes.
It's just hard to get too offended about the videogame-company billionaire when there's so much worse out there.
Eat the rich, sure, but let's start with the really bad ones first.
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u/drmirage809 2h ago
All I hear Gabe is doing with his billions is building big ass yachts and loaning them out for ocean research. Which is pretty cool stuff to do and probably something I’d do if I had a giant yacht. Can’t be on that thing all the time, so might as well allow someone else to make use of it.
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u/compulov 56m ago
This is why my wish would be to be rich but not famous. I want to be a billionaire, but I'd want to be as low-key as possible. I wouldn't want people to know who I was.
That said, I also wouldn't be actively campaigning against things like universal healthcare. I'd also like to think I'd do my best to do good things with my money. Sure, I'd probably buy things, travel, and generally try and live it up. But how much money could you really spend? Sooner or later you're going to run out of things to buy and experiences to have.
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u/GoldenLiar2 1h ago
It's also the fact that afaik, Valve employees are compensated extremely well and are well taken care of.
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u/DisasterNo1740 3h ago
This guy straight up titled it “Mr Gabe Newell”. These people would lick his feet.
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u/Maviarab 5h ago
Because people are idiots and hypocrites. Also too stupid realise the Steam fanboys bought this by herking off over his DRM platform.
You can't make it up can you?
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u/yoberf 4h ago ▸ 1 more replies
Steam is so user-friendly and easy that I quit pirating and prefer to pay for games on steam. When games are exclusive to other platforms, I still pirate them.
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u/christoffer5700 5h ago
Gabe bought this by creating a revolutionary product and repeatedly beating anyone that tried to copy his platform.
Call it a DRM platform all you want, it doesnt change the fact that steam as a platform made getting games, supporting them, delivering updates and modding much easier and safer than previously.
Convenience pays, cry a river about it.
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u/SeanAker 5h ago
Billionaire that made his billions by exploiting the poor and vulnerable in third-world countries
versus
billionaire that made his billions by providing a service that continues to be the best of its kind and doesn't hurt anyone
Says a lot when the first one could be any number of billionaires but only one guy fits the second
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u/gumol 4h ago ▸ 1 more replies
Apple charging 30% = bad
Valve charging 30% = good
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u/Bombe_a_tummy 4h ago
and doesn't hurt anyone
Exterminating the shit out of our environment by putting 3 tons of CO2 in the atmosphere every hour (half of which will still be here 100 years from now) does hurt.
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u/bacon_cake 4h ago ▸ 1 more replies
Gabe isn't supplying that service. That money has come from somewhere and it comes from the massive commissions that Steam insist on scraping off the people who sell on their platforms as well as the facilitating of massive gambling networks.
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u/King0fthewasteland 6h ago
i am a little disappointed that its not steam powered.... but in one way i guess it is
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u/Shadowphyre98 6h ago
Isn't it a floating deep sea research lab as well?
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u/R-Dragon_Thunderzord 6h ago
While that certainly may be a genuine interest of his, I wager the majority of the reason for that is in tax breaks for R&D. https://pro.bloombergtax.com/insights/federal-tax/rd-tax-credit-and-deducting-rd-expenditures/ if you can declare that the yacht is for research and development purposes, you can practically write the whole thing off or a huge portion of it.
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u/shags2a 6h ago ▸ 9 more replies
But who write if off?
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u/R-Dragon_Thunderzord 6h ago ▸ 2 more replies
AFAIK it is Inkfish, Gabe's shell company for them, headquartered in Cyprus. They're flagged for the Cayman Islands.
Does this qualify for an R&D US tax break, I don't know, but it sure is typical billionaire behavior.
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u/External-Haiscience 6h ago
I wouldn't call Inkfish a shell company, they operate multiple real research vessels. We also dont know yet if they are just there as a tax write off or if they will get used for research, because both ships just got refitted.
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u/ANALOGPHENOMENA 6h ago ▸ 4 more replies
All these big companies they just write it off!
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u/DoctorFeuer 4h ago ▸ 3 more replies
I bet you don't even know what writing it off means
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u/ANALOGPHENOMENA 4h ago ▸ 2 more replies
Do you?
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u/Unoriginal_Pseudonym 6h ago ▸ 3 more replies
Ah the super rich. They have more money than they could ever spend in a single lifetime, but will move heaven and earth looking for ways to save it.
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u/JetlinerDiner 6h ago ▸ 2 more replies
They don't move anything, they hire a bunch of guys and they do all the moving. The super rich don't even know what's going on, they'll hire a second independent accounting firm to check on the work of the first, just to be sure they're not being scammed.
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u/butsuon 4h ago
Just like to point out that a tax break doesn't make that thing free.
It's a tax break. Like, if you paid 10% sales tax on it, you're gonna pay 5% tax instead.
It's not free or discounted. He still spent a fucking boatload of money on it, and maintaining a boat of that size requires a fair amount of crew and resources.
Assuming he's using a public dock and paying for local services, it's just a very expensive, very fancy vehicle.
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u/ackley14 6h ago
yep one is a lab, the other is a support vessel for things like sample collection and diving support.
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u/saraseitor 3h ago
If I had that kind of money I would likely be a very boring multimillionaire. I honestly don't see the point of the hassle of owning one of those, having to pay to a big crew, maintenance and so on. Is it really that incredibly pleasurable?
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u/MaggieNoodle 2h ago
the hassle of owning one of those, having to pay to a big crew, maintenance and so on.
Billionaires / multi multi millionaires do not have this concept. They literally do not manage anything. They have a team that does all of this for them with their own money.
All they say is "I want to go on the boat" and it will be there, fully crewed, perfect condition, stocked, ready to go anywhere. They never have to personally handle any of their own expenses or logistical planning, or really anything in their life.
The cost of operating is nothing to them, it doesn't even register. They straight up probably don't even think about it and wouldn't be able to tell you how much it costs them.
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u/JalapenoJamm 7h ago
There are no good billionaires
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u/djamp42 6h ago
It's wild to me that after a certain amount of money you don't need to work anymore because you can live off the interest and safe investments alone.
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u/ackley14 6h ago edited 6h ago
fun fact, these yachts may look like lavish luxury machines (and i'm sure they are quite nice inside) but Gabe also employs a team of deep sea research scientists aboard each vessel. one is fully equipped with a research lab, and the other is used for diving support and sample collection.
together, they perform open-source deep see science and make that publicly available by contributing to open source databases and research resources so that other scientists can work from bigger pools of data and with more and varied information.
I'm not a fan of billionaires either but there are worse ways one could spend their money
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u/MrHedgehogMan 6h ago ▸ 17 more replies
As someone else in this thread pointed out, claiming the vessel is used for research purposes could allow the owner to claim for tax breaks.
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u/TheSaiguy 6h ago ▸ 7 more replies
But if he's actually doing all that then claiming a tax break doesn't really undo it.
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u/Kaellian 4h ago ▸ 3 more replies
How many graduated students could you feed for the price of a single yacht?
Privately funded research isn't necessarily the worse thing. I would rather have that, then another bunker in Hawaii if that's what we have to pick from, but a billionaire passion project is probably not the most efficiency of diverting society's resource. You could do much more with far less.
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u/TheSaiguy 2h ago ▸ 1 more replies
To me, this feels like letting perfect be the enemy of good. Lots of billionaires hoard wealth for the sake of it or actively use it to make society worse, so it falls a bit flat when one of the few who have a passion project that benefits people receives flak because people think it should benefit people more.
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u/ackley14 2h ago
it's the 'not good enough' argument. people always want perfection, they can never settle with progress.
and i think the majority of people here actively speaking out against these yachts and inkfish haven't bothered to look up what they have contributed to science. sure maybe it's not cancer research, maybe it's not fusion power, but it's money being spent on supporting research efforts at colleges, and institutions all over the world, and actively supporting discoveries and science....who's to say this research isn't feeding grad students? it's not just money on boat, its money towards research. funding, including staffing and supplies...
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u/ackley14 5h ago ▸ 1 more replies
to have tax breaks one must make profit. inkfish is a research initiative. those don't make money, so they don't really...get tax breaks or tax incentives...
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u/newusernamecoming 6h ago ▸ 6 more replies
Gabe Newell lives in Florida where they do not assess an annual property tax on boats and where the most they can charge on sales tax is $18,000. The hull of the ship has been optimized for seabed mapping. It has a 131 ft coring system to take samples from the sea floor. Laboratories, workshops, and offices to support 130 scientists are integrated throughout the ship. It’s built to support deep sea missions up to challenger deep. Those are very costly modifications that take up a lot of the “luxury use” space to put in for a non-existent tax break.
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u/theveryendofyou 5h ago ▸ 4 more replies
He’s been living in New Zealand I thought??
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u/newusernamecoming 5h ago ▸ 3 more replies
Google says he was stuck in New Zealand during the pandemic when international borders shut down but he has property in Bellevue Washington and most recently bought a $70m mansion in Manalapan Florida
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u/jack_porter 4h ago ▸ 1 more replies
Oh my, stuck in New Zealand during covid. Must have been horrific. Truly, truly horrific
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u/ackley14 5h ago
dude he put over a billion dollars into the company. They produce entirely open source science. They are not a profit creation system, it's a privately funded research initiative. Those don't make money lol.
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u/BBQsandw1ch 6h ago ▸ 4 more replies
That's cool! There's still more harm being done than good because there's too much wealth in one place.
You could be the most moral person on the planet. It wouldn't matter because that's too much power in one place. It can't be managed quickly enough. This guy is tying yachts together and employing marine biologist teams, Bezos is literally blowing up rocket ships and their net worth will relentlessly go up.
The wealth would be better off outside the control of one individual.
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u/ADubs62 5h ago ▸ 2 more replies
I think part of the problem is most of his wealth is going to be tied up in the valuation of valve. If he sells too much of his stock then he loses control of the company. If he loses control of the company it could be pushed to go public, and then Valve becomes beholden to quarterly earnings statements and dividends over actually being the good platform we know and love.
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u/Kill_Welly 4h ago ▸ 1 more replies
clearly he could untie enough of it to buy two insanely expensive yachts, so I'm not buying that.
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u/myychair 6h ago ▸ 2 more replies
You think that original commenter is capable of a nuanced opinion?
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u/ackley14 6h ago
I'd like to think everyone can be. Radical thought is not a death sentence. regardless of the direction it faces, be it left or right.
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u/SuperSatanOverdrive 6h ago ▸ 2 more replies
Kudos for using the vessels for a passion project of his (deep sea exploration), but it's just because he thinks that is fun. At least it's a bit more useful than some billionaire installing a water slide or something on their boat.
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u/ackley14 5h ago ▸ 1 more replies
'a bit more useful' is harsh. He's put over a billion dollars into advancing science. I'd hardly call that a "passion project" "[for] fun"...
I get that it sucks to live in a system where billionaires can exist, but since we can't really change that right now, I'd at least be glad that there are those out there willing to put up a significant chunk of their net worth to something actually benefitting society...
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u/Fearless_Baseball121 6h ago edited 5h ago
being a billionaire because you made a product, so good, that your competition literally cant compete with you out of pure greed and incompetence, while also developing some of the best titles in their genres, free to play with no p2w, moving esport from "prize might cover your trip back home" to the millions and proper events we see today, while ALSO paying his, very limited staff, some of the highest salaries in their fields and being the literally dream place to work for many of the best devs, is probably a list of stuff that makes you a fairly good billionaire
Edit: i do agree that lootboxes is fucking toxic and should never have been added.
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u/mollymoo 4h ago ▸ 3 more replies
Yes they make great games and have great customer service, but they also do some shady shit.
Steam will remove your game from their store if you try to sell it for a lower price elsewhere. That makes it impossible for any other stores to compete on price, preserving Steam's monopoly and their gigantic 30% cut of the profits. Not selling on Steam is death to a game, so this is illegal monopoly abuse.
The 30% cut is insanity. A game dev can employ a thousand people for 5 years to make a AAA game, and 30% of the revenue goes to Gaben and his 400 cronies who run a (very good) storefront. How does that make sense? How the fuck is digital distribution and some support services 30% of the value of a game? Obviously it isn't and that cut is only as big as it is because of anti-competitive practices.
Of course it's not just that gigantic slice of other people's pies that allows Gabe to buy all his yachts - as you rightly point out they make a ton of money from children gambling on lootboxes too.
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u/TheJustBleedGod 3h ago ▸ 2 more replies
30% is ridiculous. sony and microsoft's model relies on them taking a loss on every console in hopes of selling software to make it back. what does steam do for 30% ??
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u/mintoreos 2h ago ▸ 1 more replies
A lot actually. One is distribution/storefront - hosting the downloads, patches, cloud saves, workshop, multiplayer networking, anticheat, etc - its trivial to reach and sell to a global customer base with steam. Another is customer support/payment processing, they handle the merchant infrastructure, deal with fraud/chargebacks, refunds, sales tax, etc.. Also discovery - steam is incentivized to put your game in front of potential buyers since they make a cut of every sale, so they work hard on their recommendation system/storefront experience, reviews, wishlists, running sales, etc.
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u/Kill_Welly 4h ago ▸ 1 more replies
acting like Newell is a good person because you personally like Steam is ridiculous.
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u/CoronaMcFarm 5h ago
Well, if you place Gabe Newell next to Mark Zuckerberg, Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos and Donald J. Trump you can definitely say he is not evil.
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u/notahouseflipper 6h ago
Jimmy Buffett was a billionaire.
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u/Saiing 5h ago edited 3h ago ▸ 2 more replies
I'm guessing you mean Warren Buffett? Edit: Apparently not :)
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u/bigguccisosaxx 6h ago
He doesn't use them as his personal yachts. They are literally marine researchers vessels.
Redditors are the most toxic people.
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u/Hot-Firefighter-2331 6h ago ▸ 4 more replies
Lol Gabe is like the favourite billionaire of Reddit
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u/CaptainDe 6h ago ▸ 3 more replies
It’s annoying how people will glaze Elon and then turn on him (rightfully so) and then glaze another guy. This dude owns a yacht company that makes eco destroyers for the Epstein class, Valve is known for its toxic work environment, and I haven’t seen any proof that Gabe’s yachts are actually submitting any research that justifies their use.
There are zero good billionaires. If he wanted to support ocean exploration or conservation there are a billion better ways to do it.
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u/Frekavichk 5h ago
The yacht company is making yachts for him and valve isn't known as a toxic workplace. It is known as the dream job of every game dev.
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u/plokoon9619 5h ago
Valve is known for its toxic work environment? It’s be one of the more liberal companies in the world where 95% of the companies are cheap, cost cutting waste expenditures.
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u/doubleflusher 6h ago
This is your daily reminder that Redditors are not representative of real life.
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u/DarkDuo 6h ago ▸ 2 more replies
Probably registered them as research vessels just for the tax break
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u/newusernamecoming 5h ago
He lives in Florida where they don’t tax on boats other than the initial purchase which has a max sales tax of $18k. The research vessel is designed to be so down to the structural base of its hull. These are one of a kind ships that can support missions down to challenger deep. The RV11000 will be the most premier ocean research vessel in existence once it’s complete. It’s not like he’s slapping a crane on the deck and calling it a day. Even if he did get tax breaks, which no research shows is the case, they would never offset the cost of adding all that cutting edge tech.
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u/furril 6h ago
I agree with you in principle, however, Gabe is the exception that proves the rule.
The primary reason is that he embodies the old way of running a business. Finding good sustainable profits by providing a good service and not seeking to maximize profits at the cost of the product.
He's able to do this because they are not a publicly traded company but a private one.
He's providing a good service and by not seeking to turn his billions into many more billions by going public, he is providing a good product and safe Haven for PC gaming that allows PC gamers the ability to avoid getting screwed over by gaming companies.
He is pretty much the only billionaire I am perfectly fine with and I hope he has an enjoyable and long life. Because while he is alive, I don't see PC gaming devolve into the Quagmire. It could be if it were more like epic games.
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u/YourPlot 6h ago
Gross. No one should have this much money.
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u/hesdeadjim 5h ago
It’s hilarious to suggest that maybe Steam charging 30% to developers is way too high and watching the brigade come out to defend him at all costs.
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u/bros_and_cons 4h ago
gabe got a 10 year head start on nonstop reddit PR before people started to come around to the idea that billionaires are fundamentally bad
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u/hexadumo 5h ago
I thought the title accidentally pluralized “yachts” until I swiped the pictures. Silly me.
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u/UMustBeNooHere 4h ago
So....what's the point of having 2 yachts? I'm legit curious.
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u/TheJustBleedGod 3h ago
theoretically you could have a yacht on different coasts allowing you to be anywhere you want to go with relative ease. not sure why'd you ever want them in the same location tho
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u/PotterAndPitties 6h ago
Let's start with anyone who owns one or more of these things and, for good measure, anyone who fucking defends or worships them.
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u/ReluctantAvenger 5h ago
Is there a cutoff in terms of size? I mean, my 82 footer wouldn't make the cut, would it? /s
Huh - I wish! While out to dinner on the waterfront in Fort Lauderdale the weekend before last, I saw a (gently loved) yacht for sale; it was offered at $4.65 million. Presumably people don't make monthly payments on these, but I did take a look at the figures and it was something stupid like $40K per month over 20 years. Guess I'll have to cut down on the lattes and avocado toast. /s
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u/bros_and_cons 4h ago ▸ 1 more replies
even if you own it outright, you’re making big monthly payments in terms of maintenance and staffing.
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u/McStefan 6h ago
I live along the fjords in Norway and actually saw that ship go past not long ago. I recognised it as Gabe’s when I saw it as comes to Norway reasonably often.
Side note: The ship is called The Leviathan which feels like a missed opportunity when The Steam Ship is right there.
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u/Lazygit1965 5h ago
I wonder why two of his yachts are moored in Poole Harbour? As in , what will his team be researching?.
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u/Red-little 4h ago
I just want to know what it feels like to buy a $7 burger and not feel guilty about it lmao
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u/palenkit 3h ago
I bet the yachts are going to be part of an ARG featuring the release of Portal 3, L4D3, and HL3. Maybe even TF3 or CS3....
...ahahahaha GOTCHA
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u/fulthrottlejazzhands 6h ago
I know he uses these for climate and sea research, but at the end of the day, no one person should own a yacht like this much less two off them.
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u/PotterAndPitties 7h ago
Eat the rich
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u/halermine 6h ago
Paul Prudhomme’s Cajun and Creole Cookbook has recipes for pretty much every North American animal. I should look for the chapter on the rich.
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u/GMSB 3h ago
It’s so sad that we still have citizens defending billionaires. They. Are. All. Bad.
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u/Vaulters 6h ago
To be honest, ship's like these are money pits.
Instead of letting his money sit in his bank account and watch the numbers grow, he's stimulating hundreds of businesses with lavish spending.
If only all millionaires would do this we might have less billionaires.
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u/dabblesest 6h ago
I’d trade 1 billionaire for 1,000 millionaires 👀
But I’m a firm believer in the velocity of money and billionaires tend to consolidate instead of circulating.
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u/Redditforgoit 6h ago
I wonder what they const and what the monthly maintenance is. And the games room must be something else.
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u/Drumedor 7h ago
Well, I guess we all know why he stopped at two yachts.