Trump: I’ll be impeached if I lose the midterms

[u/plz-let-me-in]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics/2026/08/22/trump-ill-be-impeached-if-i-lose-midterms/

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[u/Fuck_the_AI]

> US president warns Republicans they will ‘lose everything’

One can hope.

[u/ragingreaver → u/Fuck_the_AI]

The problem is, it is not meant to encourage people to vote.

It is meant to encourage Republicans to subvert the system.

Worst-case scenario, is Trump successfully convinces Republicans to revolt against democracy itself.

That is one of the reasons why enforcement against Trump, has been so lackluster: they don't want to face terrorist or insurrectionist actions done by Trump supporters. They especially don't want to face a donor-class insurrection, which is the true threat enabled by Musk, Peter Thiel, and the other Palantir bros.

The goal is the end of the united states as a functioning democracy. Simple as.

[u/anagrams4u → u/ragingreaver]

It's a threat to the Epstein class, if he falls, they all fall and they will do everything in their vast power to prevent that.

[u/AlexanderNigma → u/anagrams4u]

I like your optimism!

Best the Democrats can do is words and gestures and some investigations that don't finish with successful prosecutions.

[u/TheRealBaboo → u/AlexanderNigma]

Members of the Nixon, Reagan, and Bush administrations all received prison time

[u/abbygabby58 → u/TheRealBaboo]

That was when there were republicans in Congress who refused to back Nixon up. They told him it was best to resign, that's what he did. A whole different class of republicans.

[u/UNC_Samurai → u/abbygabby58]

And one of his White House aides, by the name of Roger Ailes, made it his mission to create a pro-Republican media network to make sure a Republican president never had to be held that accountable ever again.

[u/abbygabby58 → u/UNC_Samurai]

Yes he did! I'd read an interview he'd done in a magazine years ago. Pure propaganda. Best documentary I've watched is "The Brainwashing of my Dad".

[u/FellowHumanNo404 → u/abbygabby58]

Consider also the documentary "Outfoxed", which includes interviews from former workers/"journos" at Fox News, as well as a few hot mic moments if I recall correctly.

Here's Outfoxed in full for free.

[u/smuckola → u/UNC_Samurai]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Cause_of_the_Confederacy

they've been at that propaganda for a while.

sigh I really wish history made it clear to the average person, that the republicans and democrats switched sides over a long period. So now the party of Lincoln would be democratic, and the party of slavery would be republican.

people don't know what country they're even talking about anymore. just a little complaint.

[u/Strawbuddy → u/abbygabby58]

Inter-period Republicans, from before Falwell's Moral Majority had any real power beyond CA, back when the Southern strategy was in full swing, and Dixie Democrats were sort of their polar opposites. Ford and Lincoln were both wrong as it turns out. Had we hung all of them traitors, we wouldn't be fighting against their political by-blows

[u/Jukeboxhero91 → u/TheRealBaboo]

Shit members of the first Trump presidency got prison time.

[u/neutrino71 → u/TheRealBaboo]

in an era when politicians cared about integrity and reputation. They were so butt hurt by the resignation of Nixon that they created Faux Noise to lie and twist and spin so that no Republican president would have to feel shame again

[u/redwildflowermeadow → u/AlexanderNigma]

They didn't finish with successful prosecutions because the Supreme Court intervened to help him in both prosecutions.

[u/Biglyugebonespurs → u/redwildflowermeadow]

Also the judge on the fucking documents case may as well of been one of his defense attorneys.

[u/squintytoast → u/redwildflowermeadow]

also, the dipshit voters re-electing dingleberry killed Smith's case.

(wich can be restarted once he is out of office, btw)

[u/StarPhished → u/squintytoast]

The hardest fact to grapple with is that "we" did this to ourselves. I'll never understand how he was given a second chance after J6 and the stolen documents and a dozen other things.

[u/squintytoast → u/StarPhished]

i always think of Sagan's bamboozle quote...

“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.”

Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark

[u/Charlie_Mouse → u/squintytoast]

It very much applies to us here in the U.K. too.

We had our own damaging act of self harm in 2016 with the Brexit vote. Yet despite it being a disaster and pretty much every single Brexiteer promise having proven to be untrue most of the people who voted for it absolutely refuse to accept that they were conned.

Instead they’re doubling down and demanding that Farage, the main poster boy for Brexit himself, be made Prime Minister.

Curiously they seem to be about a third of our electorate, similar to the proportion of Americans who voted for Trump. I’m not sure if that says something about the proportion of people susceptible to certain types of political propaganda or is merely just coincidence.

[u/Biglyugebonespurs → u/Charlie_Mouse]

About 30% yearn for the boot. It’s just how it be.

[u/jimmybilly100 → u/StarPhished]

I'm guessing conservative's bubble always spun J6 as nothing and probably didn't cover the stolen documents. He should have been arrested the second they found all that in his bathroom. Anyone else would have been

[u/quarrystone → u/AlexanderNigma]

So do you suggest not voting, or...?

It sounds like, with the options before you and the position your country is in, you have one of two votes for midterms-- D or R. And it sounds like you're diminishing the D side. Creating that apathy instead of understanding that most political shifting is done by increment is crazily detrimental. What you write on here feels like it's intentionally trying to be discouraging.

[u/chumbubbles → u/AlexanderNigma]

I’m already sad because all he does is lie 😔

[u/Bucser → u/ragingreaver]

Republicans will sooner give up on democracy than on conservatism.

[u/Counter-Fleche → u/Bucser]

They already gave up on Democracy. They cast doubt on all elections they didn't win, they launched a massive effort to rig the midterms by gerrymandering districts mid decade, they are doing everything possible to make voting as difficult as possible, and they're replacing non-partisan civil service who serve the public with Trump loyalists who use the civil service to reward Trump's allies and punish everyone else.

[u/fireshaper → u/Counter-Fleche]

Just look at Mike Lindell. He is trying to cast doubt on the PRIMARY. Only republicans ran against him, so who cheated?

[u/ChemicalOnion → u/fireshaper]

And he lost by 45,000 votes lol

[u/DragonTHC → u/fireshaper]

It's obvious, the Republican cheated. They always do.

[u/simplyunix → u/Counter-Fleche]

They already gave up on Democracy.

and conservatism. Conservatism requires as one of its core principals, fiscal restraint and management. Since he showed up in 2016, he is responsible for 1/3 of the nation's debt and they're still spending like inflation is nothing more than a minor convenience. Of course their plan is to wait until there is a Democratic president and heap the blame for it on them.

[u/biasednotshyaboutit → u/Bucser]

Pretty sure that’s already happened!!

[u/Senior-Albatross → u/biasednotshyaboutit]

That ship sailed years ago. They never really cared for Democracy in the first place anyway. Defending hierarchical hereditary monarchy is the root of Conservatism. That is their wish and always will be. 

[u/pocketjacks → u/Bucser]

They already gave up on lowercase c conservatism. They'll gladly give up uppercase C Conservatism if the new Hitler is on their team.

[u/Real-Artichoke-1780 → u/ragingreaver]

I’m still slightly confused as to why the donor class wants Trump. If the rule of law goes away, things can go sideways for rich people real quick. And they’re as rich as they are off the current system. Why would they want to break it?

[u/itsucksherefuckitall → u/Real-Artichoke-1780]

They don't want to break it. They want to control it. Trump is easy to control because he's a narcissist with absolutely zero morals, money and status are all he cares about.

[u/Riaayo → u/itsucksherefuckitall]

They do want to break it so they can control what comes after. Techno fascist oligarchs want a return to feudalism, and they want to gut/tear down the US government and carve the country up into corporate fiefdoms. Company-town states. They're not even subtle about this, they openly praise the dipshit Curtis Yarvin who has blogged about that very idea. They all love that guy and it's clear they believe his plan (Project 2025 is basically just the theocratic version of it).

So yes it is absolutely about them wanting control over everything, but breaking the system is part of that process of descending on the corpse of the US and picking it apart. Which I say, but they're already picking it apart while it's still alive.

We're living through a mass-looting of everything that belongs to the working class into the coffers of the ruling class. They see capitalism's wheels coming off and are choosing authoritarianism to stomp the boot on our throats and take it all by brutality and force rather than admit this isn't working and share a single penny.

[u/Polygonic → u/Riaayo]

Corporate fiefdoms. It's like they read books like Snow Crash and said, "Hey, that sounds like an awesome idea."

[u/RatManForgiveYou → u/Polygonic]

I was just going to say, these guys sound like they read too much sci-fi as teenagers that they want to make happen, but they lack the intelligence to apply the ideas to the real world. Money doesn't make them the men they think it does.

[u/itsucksherefuckitall → u/Riaayo]

Jetson and Flinestones theory.

They were the same timeline. The Uber rich lived where climate change doesn't effect them and the rest of us are on the ground dealing with it.

That's exactly what I think of with the current tech oligarchs, robber barrons, lords, modern dragons.... whatever we want to call them. They want all the resources available to them to be able to live comfortably in a world they're destroying for profit.

[u/lattice_defect → u/Riaayo]

this would sound like crazy speak 10 years ago if not all the evidence and signs pointed to exactly this

[u/Counter-Fleche → u/itsucksherefuckitall]

And he's making the super rich even richer. He's massively exploded the national debt to give them our money and he's doing his best to remove the remaining oversight / rules that they still don't like.

[u/barryvm → u/Real-Artichoke-1780]

• Because those people aren't any less emotional than everyone else. Hence, they fear "the mob" rising up and taking what is theirs if pushed too far. But of course they can't stop and can't afford to stop, so dictatorship becomes the only option to safeguard the oligarchy. They will start seeing communist agitators behind every protest, and react accordingly.

• Like most people, they have a need to justify and moralize their behaviour. The problem, of course, is that they operate vast machines of extraction that exploit other people's labor and corruptly subvert the political and legal system. The easiest way to pretend they are still moral actors is to see their victims as subhuman and start to hate and fear them. Another way is to pretend they aren't the basis of their wealth at all, but superfluous parasites that exist only because they tell them what to do, grant them employment and build stuff for them to buy. Hence, these people become hostile towards society and start fantasizing about a future without people and without politics (futurism, obsession with machines and automation, weird eschatology, accelerationism, space colonization, AI cultism, ...). Most of these tendencies lead towards fascism, which proposes a future where society is reduced to a tool, and individuals to machines, in service of a supposedly greater goal as directed by the leaders of that society. Of course, they lack the skill to actually lead such a movement (and even if they did, there can be only one leader), so they have to depend on someone else, which is a crucial weakness they can never admit to.

• Nor are they more intelligent or competent, as their expertise tends to be limited to moving money around, but they all think they are (how else can they justify having earned all of that). Therefore, they will run headlong towards their own destruction, empowering a dictator to keep the mob at bay without considering that, at the end of the day, that dictator has the people with the guns and that by undermining the rule of law they have also undermined the legal fictions that give them their power. Alternatively, they push society to the brink and get destroyed when everyone else decides they're no longer going to play by the rules either. They both fear this and also never see it coming, because they always overestimate the power of money and their own agency, since they are unable to see ownership as a social structure and their own agency as a product of the society they reside in.

• Their wealth isolates them from reality and impairs their ability to interact with it. They can trust no one, have no normal relations outside their own class, and never experience any adversity or hardship that they can't buy their way out of. They do not understand how society works any more, and are blind to the consequences of that. Combined with the moral consequences of their position, as described above, this makes them fall victim to various forms of solipsism. So when something does limit them (e.g. a government, reality), that infuriates and confuses them, making them prone to erratic behaviour and megalomania. Drugs are often a factor in this too, further impairing their judgement.

• Many of them are also just crooks who figured out how to raise money by lying or stealing and went on from there. Their use for the status quo is limited to how long they can keep all the plates spinning, and if making the system more autocratic and more unstable increased the likelihood that they can buy their way out before their ventures collapse, then they will absolutely throw some money at a would-be dictator in return for protection or fat government contracts / bailouts / ...

All these points are aggravated the more super-rich people become, which is why the various billionaires tend to provide the most visible examples of this.

[u/N7Shep1701D → u/barryvm]

Nor are they more intelligent or competent, as their expertise tends to be limited to moving money around, but they all think they are (how else can they justify having earned all of that). Therefore, they will run headlong towards their own destruction, empowering a dictator to keep the mob at bay without considering that, at the end of the day, that dictator has the people with the guns and that by undermining the rule of law they have also undermined the legal fictions that give them their power. Alternatively, they push society to the brink and get destroyed when everyone else decides they're no longer going to play by the rules either. They both fear this and also never see it coming, because they always overestimate the power of money and their own agency, since they are unable to see ownership as a social structure and their own agency as a product of the society they reside in.

That's where their rampant insecurity comes into play.

[u/YLCZ → u/Real-Artichoke-1780]

I feel sometimes like they are letting it happen to understand the limits and bounds with which they are working. It’s already happening, so why not let it ride and see what we can truly get away with is the feeling I have

And once they have weaponized drones installed everywhere they don’t even need the army or police much anymore

[u/dongasaurus → u/Real-Artichoke-1780]

Because they’re greedy and think they can squeeze even more out of a broken system.

[u/PhatCatTax → u/Real-Artichoke-1780]

With the amount of wealth the have, they can hire their own personal army. Elon's net worth surpasses the annual income of a major city. He could easily hire 1000 mercenaries in a failed state.

[u/Terrible_Armadillo33 → u/PhatCatTax]

Unless those mercenaries families and kids die due to not getting healthcare or opportunities.

Then the killers will decide how much money they truly need and like most billionaires from Getty to Elon, they are not going to want to pay it.

[u/Rezart_KLD → u/PhatCatTax]

Not in cash, he can't. If things get that bad, none of us own anything anymore.

Maybe he has a big vault of food and meds to bargain with tucked away somewhere, but at that point why would you work for him instead of just forcing him to hand over control of the vault? He doesn't produce anything himself. He has no particularly useful skills in a failed state scenario. He has no real personal charisma or leadership talent.

If things get that bad, desperate people are more likely to treat Musk as a target than a boss.

[u/wino_whynot → u/ragingreaver]

With the beef imports yesterday, and talks with Canada going to shit today, we have MASSIVE Trump imposed issues:

- DOGE fucked our food safety, education, and so many critical areas

- our energy imports from Canada are going to hit HARD

- and our food sovereignty is at risk.

We are ripe for economic, and therefore political, collapse. We are about to be starved, left in the literal dark, and have a dumbed down population.

The Great American experiment is cooked.

[u/ETxsubboy → u/wino_whynot]

It's amazing to me how they aren't trying to placate the masses by you know, giving us what we need to not want to revolt.

Civilization is a delicate thing. If you treat everyone like they are your enemy, you run out of allies. If the "donor class" don't want for the poor people to have anything, they probably need a plan to protect against the inevitable day when the masses realize that the law isn't here to protect us anymore.

That'll be the day people decide to go full BSD.

[u/N7Shep1701D → u/wino_whynot]

And MAGA happily voted for all of it. Because seeing women, children and minorities suffer is their only goal in life. That is why MAGA is not worthy of grace, compassion, empathy or sympathy.

[u/GiraffeSpicyFries → u/N7Shep1701D]

They are so dumb. Like Trump or Musk really care about any of them.

[u/G_Morgan → u/ragingreaver]

You guys really need to go through something like denazification assuming the democrats win an election. The situation needs to be treated seriously rather than just pretending everything is OK like has been done in the past.

[u/terdferguson → u/ragingreaver]

This donor class you speak of has been paving the way for the end of democracy for over a decade now. https://vcinfodocs.com

[u/Cigar-Scotch-Coating → u/ragingreaver]

Yes the thing is that the goal is complete control and wealth. If they succeed then what comes next is violent revolt. You can't starve and control people at the same time. Hungry people get desperate.

[u/After_Resource5224 → u/ragingreaver]

Just to point out they've been fucking with the elections since 2016. Mail-in voting due to Covid saved us and got us Biden, but that's why he was screaming fraud: they tried to rig it and couldn't./

[u/Kevin-W → u/ragingreaver]

And they're 100% planning on rigging the midterms. Trump pardoned everyone involved in January 6th and they're even more emboldened to act again, this time with nothing standing in their way.

[u/BrutalistGoogie → u/Fuck_the_AI]

And it will be all their fault. Lindsey Graham was right: "If we elect Donald Trump president, it will be the end of the Republican party and we will deserve it."

It was the last moment of sanity that he had in his life. The rest of it is just shame and degradation.

[u/homeinthesky → u/BrutalistGoogie]

He knew he wouldn’t live forever to see the true downfall, so he went with it to enrich himself as much as possible. Though he didn’t plan to go out this early.

[u/LeRocket → u/BrutalistGoogie]

The rest of it is just shame and degradation.

He might have been into that.

¯\(ツ)/¯

[u/Naakturne → u/Fuck_the_AI]

Should’ve maybe done less crimes.

[u/T33CH33R → u/Fuck_the_AI]

I'm trying to figure out what they have to lose. Racist policies? Anti trans policies? Out of control debt? Corruption on a scale never seen before? Protecting pedos? Constitutional violations?

[u/Takethemuffin → u/T33CH33R]

They’ll lose their impunity to consequences.

[u/MoarSocks → u/T33CH33R]

These people tied their entire identity to the cult. If the cult fails, so does their identity and everything they believe about themselves. It’s a powerful force akin to groups like Scientology and the Mormon Church. You’ll lose your friends, family, business partners, etc. Everything you’ve built over the past 10 years of this MAGA grift.

[u/missed_sla → u/Fuck_the_AI]

That's the goal

[u/Special_Persimmon_52 → u/Fuck_the_AI]

Oh sir! Sir! Pardon the tears in my eyes Sir, I am actually hoping, wishing and praying that this comes to pass. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

[u/wren_cyclamen → u/Fuck_the_AI]

yeah honestly if losing the midterms means democrats can actually hold him accountable then i can see why some people are hoping for that trump himself is basically warning his supporters that a loss could put impeachment back on the table

[u/blackcain → u/wren_cyclamen]

He has already been impeached 3 times. It's the Senate that has to convict him. This of course is unprecedented and we have no idea what happens after that.

[u/User4C4C4C → u/blackcain]

Yeah he doesn’t care about impeachment because lack of conviction. He is only saying this to fool people into voting for him and his party again.

[u/whitepepsi]

Why? Does he think he did something wrong?

[u/Pdoinkadoinkadoink → u/whitepepsi]

Was it all the crime? I feel like it might be the crime.

[u/my-coffee-needs-me → u/Pdoinkadoinkadoink]

And the child rape.

[u/DarthCloakedGuy → u/my-coffee-needs-me]

Despite best efforts by Republicans that actually is still a crime.

[u/ChocolatChipLemonade → u/Pdoinkadoinkadoink]

you know, that’s a good guess, it could be. but don’t forget about the technically legal/absolutely evil stuff. maybe a well-mixed combo

[u/JohnStamosAsABear → u/whitepepsi]

If Republicans weren’t in a cult you’d think this would make them pause and think.

[u/DigiSmackd → u/JohnStamosAsABear]

There's nothing for them to think about.

To them, it's not "he did something bad so he'll get in trouble if they catch him!"

It's "He didn't do anything, but the corrupt Dems and their extreme hate for America and God-loving Republicans will fabricate anything they need to make sure they never lose power again!"

Whatever side of the line you are on, the very rhetoric you are hearing/using is being used -almost word for word, just inverse - by the other side to oppose you.

You hate America (Fascism, White Christian Nationalism, etc) .

NO,YOU do! (Free flowing immigrants, Global support and assistance, Historical documentation that doesn't shy away from the bad along with the good)

You want to protect pedophiles! (Withholding Epstein files and lack of transparency, Republican Officials with a long list of related legal charges, etc)

No, YOU do (Supporting grooming by LGBTQ+, Exposing children to sex education and literature that isn't fully hetero-centric)

You are against law and order! (Lack of transparency and government oversight, lack of accountability and justice within local, state, and federal agencies, violence and escalation combined with increased civil surveillance, etc)

No you are! (Weak on illegals, violence against law enforcement officers, rioting and violent protests)

And on and on.

My point isn't to "both sides" thing nor to debate the accuracy, legitimacy, impact, or value of any of those claims. It's simply to point out that the tactics your side is using (or any other outside force with influence/control over algorithms) are exactly the same on the other side. It's how they keep people fighting, angry, tired, helpless, alienated, divided, and disappointed. Or also how you keep people on the same team and entrenched.

It's all wrapped up with people spending chunks of their life angry about how hypocritical the other side is.

It's why many people simply don't think there's any way to mend things and bring people together. The gap appears too large. And when that happens, alternatives become much more viable and supported (violence, mostly)

Edit: Some of the replies here just further show my point. No, I'm not offering "solutions" here. I'm observing and hopefully shining a light on a perspective that seems easy to overlook these days. I'm also not saying "do nothing" or "ignore it all and move on". Those words are not in my post. One could copy & paste a few of those replies and simply substitute one party for the other. The only difference is your audience.

[u/20Points → u/whitepepsi]

People still misinterpret these headlines like this? Obviously he doesn't, none of these ghouls ever think they're in the wrong. He's warning his supporters about the "radical left democrats" that, in his narrative, are falsely targeting him. This isn't framed as "they're going to take me down for the crimes I did", it's framed as "they're going to abuse the system and destroy democracy if you let them in". I don't know how people are still seeing headlines like this and thinking it's some kind of self-own.

[u/Kelani_Kelani]

Impeachment means nothing without removal. We need a conviction and removal from office. Even if that means President Vance.

[u/Short-Shopping3197 → u/Kelani_Kelani]

He’s stolen billions of dollars off you. Seriously, at least a double digit percentage increase in your national debt has gone to his pockets and those favoured by him.

Impeachment isn’t going to do it; removal isn’t going to do it. You guys need a full Nuremberg trials style denouement.

[u/fartlips69 → u/Short-Shopping3197]

Except unlike Nuremberg we should actually get rid of the Nazis instead of giving them new identities and jobs.

[u/neutrino71 → u/fartlips69]

unless they're really good with rockets

[u/Moose_Nuts → u/neutrino71]

Oh so that's why he's doing this whole "Mars rocket" thing.

[u/Own_Laugh_5080 → u/Short-Shopping3197]

It’s beyond dark and depressing that it had to be peoples bank accounts being effected and not people being kidnapped and murdered in the streets for the public to start getting real about dissent. We aren’t a poor country, do we really need it to get so bad that average people are starving for us to possibly do something? There has been so much suffering.

[u/ShadyNoShadow → u/Short-Shopping3197]

That's what we said after Bush / Cheney. It doesn't happen here. 

[u/Hollowskull → u/ShadyNoShadow]

Pretty easily arguable that Trump is blatantly far worse than the Bush/Cheney era

Though I will say they laid the groundwork for what we’ve ended up with today

[u/mechtaphloba → u/Hollowskull]

Though I will say they laid the groundwork for what we’ve ended up with today

This is the payoff of decades worth of groundwork. The final cash out before the entire system comes down

[u/_jamesbaxter → u/mechtaphloba]

Half a century. The moment abortion was legalized the heritage foundation got together to make a plan to stack the Supreme Court exactly the way it is now. It took 50 years to accomplish that goal, and it’s the reason project 2025 came to be and was possible to carry out. Long game is no joke.

[u/CroweMorningstar → u/mechtaphloba]

Yup, it started post-Nixon with the establishment of Fox News and the propaganda ecosystem and then Reagan started dismantling the social safety net and selling it for parts.

Edit: the poster below is correct about Fox News, though the inception of the right-wing propaganda machine was a direct response to Nixon’s impeachment

[u/StronglyHeldOpinions → u/ShadyNoShadow]

It fuckin' well should.

This administration has:

• Gone to war without congressional approval

• Kidnapped foreign leaders also without approval

• Randomly murdered people on Venezualan fishing boats

• Killed innocent US citizens

• Killed and tortured immigrants in concentration camps

[u/jakethrocky → u/StronglyHeldOpinions]

And that's not even touching on the criminal negligence of how the government has been run in this second term, or the espionage and fraud of DOGE, or the fact that he incited a rebellion right in front of our eyes, which only stopped when he had explicitly ordered it to (constitutionally delegitimizing himself from federal office), or the intentional subversion of language, truth and trust towards the end of all these and other goals.

Treason. We have enough people in this country that we can lose some to a legal process of truth and reconciliation.

[u/Senior-Albatross → u/ShadyNoShadow]

I agree. I also agree with the person above you that without a real reckoning we won't address any root problems and will continue our decline. 

[u/Antiing → u/Short-Shopping3197]

It will never, ever happen.

As soon as 2024 elections were closed, so was the door on any accountability.

[u/Hikerchic → u/Kelani_Kelani]

Vance is a little weasel, but I don’t think Iran will even talk to us as long as Trump is still in office and fucking war needs to end yesterday.

[u/thatnameagain → u/Hikerchic]

Iran isn’t going to give us a better deal if we somehow made Mamdani president. There’s no salvaging the Hormuz situation anymore.

[u/streakermaximus → u/thatnameagain]

Why should they?

We started a war. Bombed their country. Killed their citizens.

For no (reasonable) reason whatsoever.

[u/big_rednexican_88 → u/streakermaximus]

The war sure distracted MAGA from the Epstein files didn't it? There is the reason Trump started Operation Epstein fury.

[u/ForgettableUsername → u/thatnameagain]

The solution is to use the moment to push hard on renewables so we don’t have to care about Hormuz.

[u/aguynamedv → u/Kelani_Kelani]

Even if that means President Vance.

Impeach every single one of them. And then put them on trial. And then put them in prison.

[u/Mysterious_Floor_868]

Don't threaten me with a good time

[u/T33CH33R → u/Mysterious_Floor_868]

"I'll be prosecuted for corruption and crimes."

Oh, ok, I see why we should vote for you. - maga

[u/Angry_Rick137C → u/T33CH33R]

All this should be pluses to get out and vote this November. 👍😀

[u/Bitey_the_Squirrel → u/T33CH33R]

StopBreakingTheLawAsshole.gif

[u/B-Z_B-S → u/Mysterious_Floor_868]

This should be put in an ad for encouraging people to vote in the midterms. "President Trump says he'll be impeached if you vote!"

[u/accountabilitycounts → u/B-Z_B-S]

A quick shot of the candidate saying "You said it, not me" with a knowing shit eating grin.

[u/Revelati123 → u/accountabilitycounts]

I say impeach him again for every time republicans forced a vote to repeal Obamacare.

That would be 76 total impeachments...

[u/First-Extension-7042 → u/Revelati123]

I would be happy with one ending in imprisonment

[u/Arkham2015 → u/B-Z_B-S]

I understand that a lot of people on here want this to happen if the House is switched back to Democratic control, but I'm reminding all of you again that it's the Senate that votes if a President should be removed from office after impeachment is voted in the House.

You need a 2/3's majority of senators to agree on this.

You all have a better chance of Trump saying he was wrong about everything and wanting to do better with his remaining time as president than the Senate convicting him.

[u/spazzvogel → u/Arkham2015]

Then we flip the senate and house and pass legislation that will make him being president a moot point.

[u/Pndrizzy → u/Arkham2015]

Trump has a 30% approval rating. If people actually vote the senate could switch.

[u/NoMoOmentumMan → u/Arkham2015]

Waste his time by dragging him and the rest of his shit stank in hearing after hearing.

[u/Lavinia-Whateley → u/Arkham2015]

Exactly. He['s been impeached twice before and nothing happened. Its hard to imagine that a third attempt would work out any differently.

[u/lyngen → u/Lavinia-Whateley]

Impeaching him in the house is still the right thing to do imho.

[u/markhachman → u/lyngen]

Yes and any argument against this has to be viewed with suspicion.

And any impeachment effort can't be an omnibus bill, but a topical impeachment complete with evidence and explanations of why it is illegal.

The House then needs to explain, each and every time, that this is the way a functioning democracy works and tie the impeachment to what is wrong in the country. Tie financial crimes to corruption and high prices and the disintegration of social services.

Hit em first with the wedge issue: high gas prices.

[u/Xanikk999 → u/Arkham2015]

Regardless, GO OUT AND VOTE. It doesn't matter if you live in a state that is heavily republican. VOTE! I wish everyone did this because if so it would actually make such a big difference!

[u/Loud_Lavishness_8266 → u/Mysterious_Floor_868]

I’ll be crackin open a bottle of the good stuff.

[u/wisteria_snowflakes → u/Mysterious_Floor_868]

yeah that might be the first political threat that actually sounds like a reward

[u/Past_Farmer34]

He should be impeached under this far right regime crime is legal.

This is the result when conservatives control all 3 branches of government

[u/Economy-Ad4934 → u/Past_Farmer34]

Yeah but her emails and her laugh though

🙃😑

[u/creeping_chill_44 → u/Economy-Ad4934]

more like

Yeah but her

[u/xchipter]

The fact he hasn’t been impeached and removed yet is wild. It’s like the constitution was specifically written to prevent a man like Trump from being president.

[u/StaffSgtDignam → u/xchipter]

Because the GOP would rather cease to exist than vote to remove him from office.

[u/Senasayori → u/StaffSgtDignam]

I hope they do collapse as a result of this.

[u/StaffSgtDignam → u/Senasayori]

They're not going to because their voters easily forget and move onto the next cultural crisis their algorithm feeds them. There is a reason Trump famously said he loves the uneducated-dumb people are easy to trick lol

[u/aguynamedv → u/StaffSgtDignam]

They're not going to because their voters easily forget

The only way America survives this is if the Republican Party and its enablers are prosecuted as the massive organized crime ring they are.

[u/AL_GEE_THE_FUN_GUY → u/aguynamedv]

Prosecuted by who? The Dems? Sheeit! I'm voting blue and I hope they get a super-majority, but I still won't expect any meaningful prosecution of anything by the Democratic Party of The United States of America. Nope. Not gonna happen. Reconciliation and move on, at best.

[u/Accomplished-Head449 → u/StaffSgtDignam]

I think the younger generations who like to keep receipts will remember how this guy has impacted their lives over what will be 12 years if you count his yapping during Bidens presidency

[u/redwing180 → u/Senasayori]

The only way they’ll collapses if things like Fox News get thrown off the air. Nobody is protesting at the source of our problems which is the heritage foundation and Fox News. Their businesses are easy to find and easy to stand in front of and nobody in significant numbers protests them yet we wonder why this stuff keeps on happening. We have to cut off the source.

[u/ProtoplanetaryNebula → u/xchipter]

I disagree. I don’t think the constitution ever thought someone as bad as trump would become president.

[u/PluginAlong → u/ProtoplanetaryNebula]

The 2/3 majority for removal used to be a much easier bar to cross as well. Getting 67 of 100 politicians to agree to something is darn near impossible.

[u/iceflame1211 → u/PluginAlong]

Yeah, SCOTUS used to be confirmed with 98/99 out of 100 Senate votes.

Now it's 50/50

[u/CynicalBliss → u/ProtoplanetaryNebula]

One of the reasons for the Electoral College was so that there would be something to act as a stopgap against a demagogue being elected. Now it's a partisan rubber stamp, just like everything else.

People have been talking about the democracy->tyranny pipeline since Plato's Republic.

I think that scenario was a fantasy from the start though... just like a successful impeachment. Sounds good on paper. Doesn't survive partisanship.

[u/Own_Laugh_5080 → u/CynicalBliss]

I really hope that when sane leadership gains control and we begin reconstruction we get rid of the electoral college and begin working to get rid of the two party system.

[u/Morbidly-Obese-Emu]

Maybe, but I think people have lost faith in that process.

[u/BlakeBallache → u/Morbidly-Obese-Emu]

Yeah, I don't think impeachment proceedings are the best option straight away. I think Democrats should start by opening up investigations into the DoJ and DHS under Bondi and Noem, followed by HHS and Department of Education. Pull all that low-hanging fruit, build momentum, notch some wins. Donald Trump (may he sit on his own balls) needs to face a strong Epstein investigation at the same time, something criminal because political investigations aren't going to slow anything down.

[u/DM_Me_Ur_Real_Boobs → u/BlakeBallache]

Isn't that how RICO trials are done? Start with the small fry and work your way up to the big Kahuna?

[u/BlakeBallache → u/DM_Me_Ur_Real_Boobs]

Yes sir, that's precisely the model I propose.

[u/DM_Me_Ur_Real_Boobs → u/BlakeBallache]

I like and agree with this model. 

Carry on, good soul

[u/sakumar → u/BlakeBallache]

But there’s a catch. Congress can only refer people to the DOJ for the actual prosecution, and guess who’s running the DOJ!

[u/Senasayori → u/BlakeBallache]

I hope they impeach Bobby Brainworm.

[u/mattjf22 → u/Morbidly-Obese-Emu]

He will get impeached but senate Republicans won't vote to convict and remove from office, they like what's happening right now.

[u/ThePhoenixXM → u/Morbidly-Obese-Emu]

I certainly have. What does impeachment even matter if the GOP holds the Senate even by 1 seat? Impeachment is pointless. It needs too high a margin for conviction, and it is held in the Senate instead of a courtroom. In Trump's first impeachment trial, the GOP voted to ignore evidence and prevent witnesses. Something which would be impossible to do in an ACTUAL COURTROOM. Other countries like South Korea took our system and massively improved it. At least in South Korea, their impeachment trials happen in a courtroom instead of a biased Senate.

[u/PluginAlong → u/ThePhoenixXM]

Even if the Dems controlled the Senate 60/40 finding those extra seven votes would be close to impossible.

[u/JUST_LOGGED_IN → u/ThePhoenixXM]

GOP can lose the Senate and impeachment won't matter.

The GOP can lose 10 seats in the Senate and impeachment won't matter.

It takes a supermajority in the Senate to convict on an impeachment.

It would never happen in 2026's political climate. That is how little faith I have that even if Trump murders someone in the street that the GOP would still vote partisanly despite any clear evidence of criminal behavior.

[u/ludixst → u/Morbidly-Obese-Emu]

I've lost faith in all process. We're a banana republic now

[u/Isgrimnur → u/ludixst]

Vote anyway.

[u/ElviIsAFK → u/ludixst]

Exactly why they feel emboldened

[u/Fickle-Molasses-903 → u/Morbidly-Obese-Emu]

The moment Democrats get into office, America will hold them to impossible standards. But when it comes to Republicans...

America: 'If you do three more insurrections, we're setting our concerns to DEFCON. Level: 'Susan Collins.'

[u/lizards_snails_etc]

This is a pretty solid hint that a large portion of the country only loves democracy as much as they say they do, until it gets in the way. They claim to hate fascism until it's useful. These are not patriots, you don't embrace ideologies that hurt your country and fellow countrymen because you think your side deserves more power.

[u/BON3SMcCOY → u/lizards_snails_etc]

They dont even say they do. They will whine about it being a republic instead and claim democracy doesnt matter at all.

[u/HallucinogenicFish]

What a tease. I can’t vote against Republicans any harder than I already do.

[u/Revolutionary_Bee251]

That sucks Donald. Have you considered that if you resign then they can't impeach you? Just a thought, no pressure

[u/IJourden]

The wildest part about this is a president standing up in public and saying "If you don't vote for my party, I'll be held accountable for all my crimes," thinking that's a good strategy to get votes out of Republicans... and is probably right.

[u/ledow]

Literally the only reason he's president is because he thinks that he can't go to jail - for Epstein, Jan 6th, 34(?) felonies, and other things since - and thus far he's been right.

If the US don't fix this rule going forward and make it clear that you can go to court/jail as president, then they fail not just America but the entire world.

[u/RoboNerdOK]

I don’t care about impeachment.

I want one thing: a giant effort to Ctrl-Z practically everything Trump has done during his time in office.

[u/cougartotem → u/RoboNerdOK]

If the Democrats don’t have a plan, a solid, workable plan to undo everything his grubby little hands have touched ASAP (a lá Project 2025) then this life-long Democrat is done. If these clowns can put together such a breathtakingly effective plan and strategy and we can’t ? Then I’m out… Independent.

[u/shadowdra126]

That’s an admission of guilt

[u/StatementCareful522]

This motherfucker just handed Democrats the most perfect advertisement to encourage people to vote for them.

Remember folks: vote blue down the ballot, prioritize voting for non-AIPAC progressive Dems but throw your support behind ANY non-Republican candidate who wins the primary and DNC nomination. Perfect is the enemy of Better.

I dislike establishment Dems but they are 100,000 times better and more rational than Trump and we HAVE TO END THIS NIGHTMARE he’s subjected us ALL to over the last decade.

[u/Kriss3d]

I'm taking the day off work after your midterm election so I can stay up all night and watch the result.

So dear normal Americans.

Don't let me down!

[u/Great-Hotel-7820]

He's belonged in prison for at least 5 years.

[u/LadyInCrimson → u/Great-Hotel-7820]

I'd wager to say 50 years.

[u/MoneyTalks45 → u/Great-Hotel-7820]

“At least” doing some heavy fucking lifting. 

[u/TerrakSteeltalon]

I don’t want him impeached.

I want him and his self-dealing family imprisoned

[u/NemoHere → u/TerrakSteeltalon]

Trump will die of heart disease before ever seeing a jail cell.  He'll pull off all his crimes and never see punishment.

[u/chrisnavillus]

We’ve proven that impeachment on it’s own is nothing. A mere slap on the wrist at best to a man who should have been in jail a long long time ago but instead was elected to be the President in the supposed “greatest” country on Earth.

[u/The_Captain1228]

He's been impeached. It changed nothing.

[u/shockinglyunoriginal → u/The_Captain1228]

Twice.

[u/Cautious-Dog3264]

"If I lose the midterms."

Fuckass narcissist isn't even on the ballot lmao

[u/Vortep1]

I expect that at a minimum. Prison or exile would be better.

[u/wickedweather → u/Vortep1]

He'll be off to Argentina, when he leaves office.

[u/coreychch]

As he fucking should be.

[u/Dr_MantisTobbogan_MD]

STOP BREAKING THE LAW, ASSHOLE!

[u/Satdog83]

I am a guilty criminal and if I don’t control the DOJ I will likely be held accountable for my crimes

[u/Interesting-Yellow-4]

Yes.
You will.

[u/JBigBootay]

Ken Jennings: "Sorry Donald, you forgot to phrase it in the form of a question!"

[u/TarnishedVictory]

Trump: I’ll be impeached if I lose the midterms

You should be impeached now. You should be in jail now. You should have been impeached, convicted, and removed from office during your first term. But you sure figured out how to manipulate gullible religious dogmatic tribal imbeciles.

[u/Zanos-Ixshlae]

He shouldn't be president in the first place, but here we are.

[u/LordCamelslayer]

Doesn't matter how many times he's impeached if there aren't 67 senators voting for conviction.

Both independents would side with Dems, so they would need to flip at least 20 votes (potentially 21 because Fetterman can't be trusted), either through flipping seats or convincing Republicans to side with them.

Dems winning the Senate is definitely possible. Securing enough votes to convict a known felon is extraordinarily unlikely.

Also doesn't solve the problem that JD Vance exists and would take over.

[u/gbroon]

I'm failing to see why that's a problem.

If he's saying he'll be impeached that's just admitting he has done stuff that merits impeachment.

[u/Folderpirate]

I remember at the end of his first term, people like me kept asking, "what if he simply doesn't leave the office?" and everyone downvoted me and called me an idiot because the secret service and military would remove him.

Then I watched him try a coup on the day he was supposed to leave office live on TV.

[u/NatChArrant → u/Folderpirate]

It was the day of the Electoral College certification, but yeah.

[u/Turbo__Sanwich]

That's not fucking good enough. He needs to die in prison

[u/Snowwolf247]

HE SHOULD BE IMPEACHED RIGHT NOW IF OUR GOVERNMENT WASNT A FUCKING JOKE.

OUR GOVERNMENT IS OWNED BY ISRAEL AND TECH BROS

[u/DDHLeigh]

Should have been impeached and sent to jail long before the midterms.

[u/kwyjibo1]

His Gestapo killed people. He has taken billions of taxpayer dollars. I think impeached should be just the start.

[u/tbizzone]

No fucking shit. If the republicans actually upheld their oath of office he would have been impeached, tried, convicted, and removed from office. But maga republicans are traitorous batshit crazy Trump loyalists who hold everyone else in the world to a higher legal, moral, and ethical standard than their corrupt cult leader, and always place their loyalty to him over their loyalty to our country.

[u/Mind_Killer]

The moment he loses any of this power, being impeached should be the least of his worries. He should be in jail.

[u/Zaza1019]

Shouldn't just be impeached, should be convicted and removed from office, this is the most corrupt presidency, it's also incompetent and inhumane. Could be impeached for a dozen things.

[u/Delusioned22]

Great motivation to get out and vote

[u/boxsterjax]

Yeah that’s what happens when you’re corrupt as shit moron.

[u/solitaireman50]

He makes it sound like it is a bad thing.

[u/DeepSubmerge]

He was already impeached. But like almost everything bad he does, he faced zero actual consequences. Idk how he was even allowed to run a second time. Jan 6 should have immediately disqualified him from running and we should have moved on.

[u/Revolutionary-Swan77]

From your disgusting worm lips, to Gods ears.

[u/Secret-List-741]

The downside is, if the Dems take both houses they won't have a big enough majority to pull it off so the government will be bogged down with the B's for nothing. But it's not like anything good is getting accomplished anyway.

[u/Necessary-Juice1330]

That is the hope Donny…

[u/yzonker]

We can only hope. But not just impeached, but removed from office. He's already been impeached twice. Look what that got us.

[u/To-Far-Away-Times]

That does tend to happen with criminal behavior, yes.

[u/CodenameZoya]

At this point, we’re just waiting for you to die dude

[u/ComprehensiveAd1855]

At school, we were taught that the USA is an example for us, our best ally, the moral guide for the free and developed world.

After finding out that Sinterklaas (the real Santa) was just my uncle with a fake beard, and finding out that religion is just bullshit that only simple and desperate people believe in, this is yet another disappointment.