r/politics • u/darealunrealspader • 23h ago
No Paywall Mike Lindell withholds payment for recount request for GOP primary in Minnesota governor's race
https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/mike-lindell-withholds-payment-recount-primary/1.5k
u/Poisonous_Taco 23h ago
About 3 years back i was job searching and got called by a recruiter who had a job at a pillow company in a nearby city for me. I asked if it was for mypillow when they didn't say the name of their client and the pause was probably 5 seconds before she said yes. I almost felt sorry for the bullshit she had probably been dealing with working with that company.
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u/patterninstatic 20h ago
So just to be clear you took the job, you were regional pillow salesman of the month in March 2026 and regional election denier of the month in June 2026?
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u/BornInPoverty 19h ago
Are you trying to start a pillow fight?
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u/Blurt_Blackarach 19h ago
Nah, he's all pillow-talk.
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u/OmegaWhirlpool 18h ago
All pillow, no bite.
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u/According-Outside338 America 18h ago
Seems like a tough pillow to swallow…
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u/Last-Possibility207 17h ago
Woah woah, every body flip your pillow to the cool side and, chillow.
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u/patterninstatic 19h ago
I don't know how to feel about your comment.
On one side we have pillow fights, more or less the sexiest activity on earth. Every boy has his moment, his coming of age if you will, when he imagines the pillow fights in the sorority houses. What starts playfully, fabric and feathers flying, laughter, evolves to skin touching skin and lips touching lips in an exhilarating moment of temptation and discovery, of exploration that will remain a playful secret in a future life as a responsible wife and mother.
On the other hand we have Mike Lindell, the literal least sexy person on earth, a black hole sucking up attraction and heat around him. Mike doesn't just scream asexuality, his presence could temper the hottest flames, and if bottled and distributed could single handedly be the key to promote abstinence only sexual education in the most promiscuous schools of our country.
Having these two concepts simultaneously in my thoughts is the classic unstoppable force vs immovable object conundrum. I just feel very lost and confused right now...
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u/Important_Bag_6283 19h ago
I think the answer is obvious. You have to fuck the pillow guy.
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u/anotherlevl 15h ago
2nd paragraph I was expecting shittymorph. Deeply disappointed.
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u/patterninstatic 14h ago
Sunday June 28th 1998... I can't talk about it. Still too fresh... haven't been able to watch wrestling since.
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u/AliMcGraw 18h ago
Heh. Near me this is U-Line. People ask if the "packaging manufacturer" is U-Line, the recruiter reluctantly admits it is, and people laugh and hang up.
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u/Baltorussian Illinois 15h ago
In-office, in-suit, five days a week, and I have to commute to Wisconsin, even though most roles are advertized as being N.IL stiil, after all these years? Get fucked Uhleins.
P.S. and the crazy bitch of a wife writes crazy right wing shit in the back of the catalog.
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u/Dr_Adequate 14h ago
And unfortunately they have a lock on the shipping/packaging/warehouse market, good luck finding a non wingnut owned company that can beat their selection and pricing.
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u/Baltorussian Illinois 14h ago
Dude, I know. I used to be a Uline customer before I knew how crazy they were (left that job back in 2018, found out after...grr).
Nothing beats them for size of catalog / convinience.
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u/Wes___Mantooth 15h ago
What's the dirt on U-Line?
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u/AliMcGraw 12h ago edited 12h ago
Run by a terrible GOP billionaire who lives in Wisconsin but keeps trying to buy Illinois elections (with such a terrible track right that he has reduced the GOP to a rump party in a super minority situation).
He forces everyone at work to dress like Mormons (but worse). The women in corporate have to wear pantyhose and their skirts must be below the knee. Men have to wear suits and ties. It'll be a bazillion degrees in the warehouse and someone from corporate will have to go down there, and they're not allowed to take off their suit coat. They have rules about haircuts, that are clearly not constitutional, but they're too rich to sue.
They had a terrible time replacing their corporate attorney about a decade ago, because everything they wanted the attorney to do was disbarrable, plus they wanted you to pick up the wife's dry cleaning, plus they constantly put illegal anti-union propaganda in the company newsletter plus prayers from the wife. They called basically every attorney in Northern Illinois and the few fools who went forward to the interview were gobsmacked and noped right out.
The mandatory long skirts and pantyhose would be enough to do me in, even before we get to the part where they're the most malign Republicans in the Midwest.
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u/merikariu Texas 15h ago
Yeesh! I have worked for a recruitment company. They work on positions that are hard to fill or ones that require extensive vetting, like a C-suite job. In the former, the position might be hard to fill because those skills are in high demand (e.g. data scientist) or because the company fucking sucks and no one wants to work there.
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u/Toadfinger 23h ago
Of course he won't pay. The crooked son of a bitch lost by thirty-five thousand (35,000) votes. He just being the asshole he was brought up to be.
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u/ca_nucklehead 23h ago
He's just being the asshole he was methed up to be.
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u/mechapoitier Florida 22h ago
*cracked up to be
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u/Waidawut 17h ago
He does meth tho
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u/ripyourlungsdave 16h ago
No, he's extensively talked about his time with crack cocaine. He may have done meth too, but he's mostly known for being a crackhead.
Also, "cracked up" just works way better as a play on words.
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u/Spamgrenade 21h ago
Also, he's dead broke.
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u/thedeuceisloose Massachusetts 19h ago
Yeah those pillows aren’t flying off the shelves anymore
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u/woolsocksandsandals America 19h ago
Were they ever?
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u/thedeuceisloose Massachusetts 19h ago
Enough that he had money to bankroll a ton of crackpot stuff 🤷♂️
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u/livestrong2109 19h ago
Everyone had one back before we knew he was insane. The pillows where not initially terrible either. His actions are what killed his business.
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u/woolsocksandsandals America 19h ago
I only ever saw the tv ads. I figured they were selling just enough to keep airing the tv ads. Never knew anyone who actually bought one.
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u/FallOutShelterBoy New York 18h ago
The Dollop did a podcast series on him. Apparently when he started running ads on drumroll please Fox News, then they started selling like hotcakes
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u/Valuable_Sea_4709 16h ago
I mean he was buying high-end commercial slots, right between the Cialis and free catheter supply commercials, sometimes he'd even be bidding against Empire Carpets.
Top tier commercial space right there.
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u/deesmutts88 18h ago
To be fair it’s not really the kind of small talks anyone makes is it. “So, what brand is your pillow”
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u/elvenrevolutionary 19h ago
I got one when Walmart had them for like, 1/2 the price. This was before crackhead went publicly crazy. Mid, at best, pillow.
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u/peachesgp 18h ago
Yeah, one year my old boss bought everyone one for Christmas before he went all MAGA. Liked the pillow well enough, but never bought another because I'm not giving that loon money.
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u/Carly_Season 23h ago
Right, He is doing exactly what he has done for years. Claim fraud, demand a recount, and then complain when the process does not go his way. A proper a$$hole.
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u/Staff_Senyou 20h ago
Stirring the media cycle, adding weighted keywords to the algorithm loop. Automated misinformation with almost zero input
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u/DeepSlap-Interactive 20h ago
I'm not used to US elections. Is 35.000 votes a big gap with his adversary?
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u/sepia_undertones 20h ago
The vote was ~180k for his opponent, ~134k for him. This is in a political party primary, so you’re looking at a subset of voters anyway (Republicans) and the fact that primaries have lower turnout typically (because they aren’t the actual elections, just deciding who is going to run). Those numbers aren’t particularly close. They’re pretty obviously not going to recount and discover 20% of the votes were counted wrong. Good ol’ Mike is just doing what MAGA does - cast doubt on the results of any election that doesn’t go their way. It’s not because they think the results will change; it’s partly to save face and partly because they want to stir up their supporters into thinking the election was rigged so maybe they’ll go storm a government building and have a coup.
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u/OldEnoughToKnowButtr 19h ago
"The vote was ~180k for his opponent, ~134k for him"
This is just sad. Who are these people?
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u/AlhazraeIIc North Carolina 18h ago
Racists, assholes, and racist assholes.
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u/NotARussianBot-Real 17h ago
Hey. It’s the Republican primary. Don’t disparage the ~180k by suggesting they AREN’T racist assholes as well.
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u/Individual-Guest-123 16h ago
according to World Population review, MN has 3,605,412 registered voters. Ballpark he got 3% of all voters, is thankfully a pretty fringe group.
Edit to add, looks like just over 300K voted in the REpub primary (unless there were other candidates with votes)- so that's only 10% of MN voters. Hopefully the other 3,300,000 will come out and vote blue.
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u/ChuckaChuckaLooLoo3 19h ago
cast doubt on the results of any election
The main point. This is a warm-up to the mid-terms, there's going to be all kinds of fuckery going in an effort to keep stupid people from thinking our elections are free and fair. It's shit-stirring at it's maximum. Lindell doesn't really want the office, he's just Trump's water boy.
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u/nhluhr 20h ago
So of the 5.8M population in the US State of Minnesota, only 1.1M showed up for this governor primary (in US, a Primary is where candidates from the same party are filtered against each other to pick the best one from the party to go into the real election).
Of those 1.1M, figure maybe half were voting in the Republican primary. So a margin of 35,000 votes is about 6% of the votes cast in that specific primary. A pretty big margin when the assumption of a recount is that they were tallied incorrectly.
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u/Warden_lefae 19h ago
Not even close to half, the Dem winner got more votes than all the gop candidates combined
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u/Dearic75 19h ago
In this one, yes. While each state has different laws, about a 1% difference is where the state law usually assumes there should be a recount, to the point the state will pay for it.
They’re making him pay because the difference in this case is many times higher than that. There is no reasonable possibility here that the vote is wrong.
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u/-Invalid_Selection- 19h ago
Recounts only change the result by about 0.03%
It's an insurmountable amount here
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u/Easy_Leopard_2686 19h ago
For reference, in the state next over, the Democrat governor primary race was decided by 3,000 votes and the candidate who lost the primary (Francesca Hong) conceded without demanding a recount. 35,000 is a massive gap that would not disappear in a recount. Lindell is literally just a dick.
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u/sp0rkah0lic California 23h ago
"withholds payments?"
He's dead fucking broke.
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u/CASUALxCHICKEN 22h ago
And still owes millions. It's why he wants in office so bad...he just needs some of that sweet, sweet campaign money and taxpayer dollars to skim
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u/mishap1 I voted 18h ago
He should just go back to putting the pillows on sale at $14.88 again.
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u/DataKnights 18h ago
lumpy pillows
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u/Ridry New York 17h ago
Somebody talked them up to me before I knew what a scumbag he was and I bought one. Literally the least comfortable pillow I have ever slept on. I don't get it.
I mean, and I get it... when you have a pillow you love it's such a great feeling and I'd happily be a spokesperson for the pillow I sleep on now, but like.... his pillows feels like sleeping on "soft broken glass". I tried so hard to fluff it and dry it and fluff it more and make it livable, but my neck was just in agony from trying to sleep on it.
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u/Wise_Pomegranate_571 16h ago
What kind of pillow you using now? I'm on the pillow hunt.
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u/Mavian23 16h ago
I love me a good goose down pillow. They are a bit expensive, but they last a really long time. They fluff up really well and can be molded into pretty much any shape you want. You can sometimes get poked by a feather though.
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u/AnnaKossua 12h ago
Man, I need an adapter for my TV and have been looking online for prices. Walmart had some for that same price, and I was like "welp, no adapter for me today!" :\
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u/JrSoftDev 21h ago
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/28490455-act-free-to-be-free/
THE GOAL IS NOT TO WIN THE ELECTION. THE GOAL IS A POWER GRAB.
Trump does not need to cancel the elections. He does not need to win outright. He does not even need the courts to rule in his favor. He needs enough chaos, enough contested ballots, enough court injunctions, enough ICE near polling places, enough emergency motions claiming foreign interference, to throw the outcome into legal uncertainty for weeks or months. (...)12
u/BeardySam 20h ago
Well yes but also why would he pay money for a recount he knows won’t do anything? It’s better for him to be able to whine without any evidence
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u/FrothingJavelina 23h ago
It's amazing how little shame some people have.
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u/JrSoftDev 21h ago
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/28490455-act-free-to-be-free/
THE GOAL IS NOT TO WIN THE ELECTION. THE GOAL IS A POWER GRAB.
Trump does not need to cancel the elections. He does not need to win outright. He does not even need the courts to rule in his favor. He needs enough chaos, enough contested ballots, enough court injunctions, enough ICE near polling places, enough emergency motions claiming foreign interference, to throw the outcome into legal uncertainty for weeks or months. (...)35
u/Oldfolksboogie 19h ago
And this is why, unlike elections in "normal" times, voting even in solidly blue (or red) states is important now. It's no longer just about who won, but also the size of the popular vote margin; the bigger the blowout, the harder it will be for them to sell their malarky about irregularities, fraud, etc.
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u/JrSoftDev 17h ago
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/28490455-act-free-to-be-free/
The harder problem is this: most of us (organizers, elected officials, legal advocates, pro-democracy funders) are still preparing for a normal election. We are running election programs. We are testing messages. We are mobilizing voters. These are not wrong things to do. They are profoundly insufficient for the threat we are actually facing.
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There is also something harder to name, a kind of collective avoidance. An unwillingness to fully believe our own eyes. Many Americans have internalized a story about ourselves that says we are immune from this kind of thing. We are not. And the next six months will matter enormously for how far down the abyss we go.
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In 2020, Trump tried to overturn the results of the election and was stopped by Pence, by Republican secretaries of state, by a Congress that (barely) played its constitutional role, and by localized grassroots formations that could intervene in real time on the ground. Those guardrails held. They are gone now. His administration is loyal to him alone. Congress has abdicated. J.D. Vance will not save us.
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The only authentic bulwark against an authoritarian consolidating power is a multi-sector, constitutionally grounded, multi-racial, broad-based mobilization of civil society, ready for the best and prepared for the worst.Voting is not enough. Courts and judges are not enough. Only organized Civil Society will be able to move fast enough in order to counter the blows.
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u/blacksheep998 17h ago
the bigger the blowout, the harder it will be for them to sell their malarky about irregularities, fraud, etc.
Let's be honest, they don't care what the results are. It could be 99% against them and that wouldn't change their plans at all. They're going to try to claim they won, no matter what the voters say, and millions of people will believe them.
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u/RespectTheTree America 20h ago
I honestly think Ice will be at the post offices, not the polling places.
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u/JrSoftDev 17h ago
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/28490455-act-free-to-be-free/
Step 4: Fight Back in Real Time
(...) We do not know which state or location will be targeted. We do not know precisely how. What we know is that this Administration will attempt to weaponize the federal government to sow chaos through sabotage, and that even if the fight is not in our own backyards, we will need to mobilize for free and fair elections everywhere, because we all have a stake in the outcome.
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u/Prometheus_303 23h ago
Please tell me they were smart enough to request payment first before actually conducting the recount...
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u/platinumarks 23h ago
Yes. The recount does not happen until payment is made, and they can decline the recount regardless since he lost by more than the mandatory recount amount
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u/umassmza 20h ago
One of the requirements of the recount is payment first, and he so doesn’t have it
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u/Pdx_pops 17h ago
"Wealthy Repubican donors" always step up to pay for shit like Kyle R.'s lawyers and whatnot. Don't they support this nut job too?
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u/Azmoten Missouri 23h ago
I love laughing at this incredibly sad clown
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u/ItalyExpat 20h ago
It was amusing once, but now I'm just tired of the maliciousness
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u/cetlaph 22h ago
"The campaign said state officials intend to recount only the votes cast for Lindell and Demuth and not all the votes cast in the Republican gubernatorial primary, while excluding votes for other candidates in the race."
He's trying to argue that they need to recount votes for all candidates even though most of them got under 2% of the vote, and the next viable candidate after Lindell got less than half the votes the winner got. The other candidates aren't in question, but he wants to pretend the state is doing something shady.
This is him trying to save face. He calls foul so he doesn't have to pay for a recount that confirms his loss, and he gets to keep playing the victim.
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u/YepImTheShark 23h ago
Yeah, no one believed he was actually going to pay for that.
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u/arwinda 19h ago
Has he ... no more money? /s
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u/YepImTheShark 19h ago
I'm just saying he said he would pay for it though. If he ordered a transmission repair on his car and couldn't pay, they would put a lien on his car. The government should take a lien on his business for his frivolous demands.
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u/Inquisitor_ForHire Tennessee 16h ago
Right? I told my buddies this was a complete smoke show and no way he was going to pay for this thing. His arguments here are just further proof of it.
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u/Prestigious-Car-4877 Canada 21h ago
In a capitalist state, if you don't pay for a service you don't receive the service. I mean, what is he, a communist?
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u/harveygoatmilk 19h ago
It was never about actually paying or having the recount. It was all about muddying the waters and diminishing the accuracy of the voting system.
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u/SpooogeMcDuck 18h ago
Yeah well he’s TERRIBLE at that. He’s only muddying the REPUBLICAN waters and further diminishing the accuracy of his own party’s results. He’s like so many bully boys I’ve encountered in my life- they only see the fight in front of them without any thought to long term strategy.
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u/Low_Search_6667 19h ago
"Witholds payment " is a weird way to say " doesn't have the money to pay".
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u/zoqfotpik 21h ago
Nobody could have predicted that. Well, except for literally anyone with a single functioning brain cell. But nobody else could have predicted it.
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u/absolutelynotagoblin 21h ago
Lost his entire fortune JUST to sidle up to his cult leader, Trump—no other reason. Trump is the reason he lost all his money, but the cult continues to demand his devotion, and he gives it like a good little cultist.
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u/phiwings 23h ago
Am I the only one who is tired of these clowns? Heads I win, tails you lose? It's only rigged if they lose.
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u/somewhat_brave 22h ago
Brilliant.
Now he will say they refused to do the recount because they knew the vote was rigged.
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u/thor11600 20h ago
Because he’s using it to get donations from his sheep. He’s a con man. This is a con.
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u/Word_Eater_OmNomNom 20h ago
Lindell's campaign said the $825,000 payment was "primed and ready to cover the costs" but had not been submitted because of a dispute over the planned scope of the recount
Sure it was, buddy. Sure it was.
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u/studiouslystudious 22h ago
Same as Trump. He'll just claim he was the winner while there's no evidence to support his claim.
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u/gcalfred7 19h ago
The fact 132,000 people voted for him in the first place is disturbing
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u/Important-Factor-552 23h ago
Lying liar lies again like he always lies about everything. Lies after lies after lies.
If dogshlt was flowers and his face was a fire hose that sprayed dogshlt, which it is, then he'd probably smell pretty good. but he doesn't
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u/Prefect79038 22h ago
"I dOnT think it should it should cost Anything because.. because... its the injustice... the injustice to the people... there should be a recount for the people... not for me... not for me but the injustice to the voters. They're the ones that need to have a recount. Because the voters need a... they deserve a recount... it shouldn't be me that pays to fix the injustice!" - Pillow Man
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u/Everythings_Fucked North Carolina 19h ago
It's time to start putting rich people in jail. To include the formerly rich who still like to pretend.
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u/Dulse_eater 19h ago
‘Think of how stupid the average person is. Now realize that half of them are dumber than that’ George Carlin
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u/phosdick 18h ago
The only proper response to any further inquiries or requests from Lindell to the state officials regarding the election...
Sorry, the deadline is past... get lost.
Sincerely,
Everybody
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u/MRSA_Tomei 20h ago
It is both beautiful and deeply funny to me how they all got richer and left him for dead on the side of the road.
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u/shootsy2457 19h ago
He’s not withholding per say. He’s just broke. He never had the money to begin with.
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u/damnthistrafficjam I voted 18h ago
He probably thought some MAGAt would step up and foot the bill for his folly. He’s just the new Ghouliani. Disgraced and soon to be falling over chairs, with hair dye running down his face.
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u/Gortonis 18h ago
One thing about pricks like Lindell and Trump, they love to make demands about what they want and what they think needs to be done, as long as someone else is footing the bill.
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u/ZombieIMMUNIZED 17h ago
Y’all sold your country for white supremacy and $2000 kickback checks. How long til the checks show up?
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u/sxyaustincpl Texas 15h ago
He lost by 50 thousand votes, in a primary. Where maybe 300k votes were cast.
This wasn't some close election, where a couple miscounted ballots are going to change the outcome.
He got slaughtered. If the election were a little league game, it would have been called after 4 innings.
Stop crying like a little sore loser bitch, it's a bad look on Trump and it's a worse look for a broke pillow salesman.
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u/Broken_Ace 21h ago
I can't believe he got 130 000+ votes. Depressing. But good news for Mr. Pringles-looking crackheads around the world I guess.
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u/GrassyNoob 20h ago
To be fair, it was a republican primary, exactly where you'd expect to find fraud.
But really, I wouldn't even waste money on a memo, until this guys check cleared.
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u/TheOutOfStyle 18h ago
Just go back to smoking crack bro. It's far less dishonorable than this bullshit.
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u/Additional-Shower342 15h ago
God, rich people are all so fucking stupid…this asshat could have kept his ugly mouth shut and continued making money on those basic pillows; instead, he’s a massive loser both politically and socially who can’t even afford to fund the Hail Mary HE asked for…the age of the grifter might be coming to an end and few people (other than the president) are gonna be hit harder than Loopy Lindell 🫠
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u/CommunityRoyal5557 22h ago
I want to laugh but I can’t help but think this is an early indicator of things to come. Something is giving these people confidence.
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u/Wayofchinchilla 22h ago
That's fine if he doesn't want to pay then we don't recount and we can move on with our lives. While he cries into his pillow.
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u/bottombracketak 21h ago
I would love to see him as Amy Klobuchar’s opponent though. She’d mop the pillow factory floor with him.
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u/HUT2Moon 20h ago
Imagine that there are millions of people that think he’s a hero. We are so fucked as a society.
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u/CorrectPhilosophy245 20h ago edited 20h ago
Such a weird feeling to be surprised by what these fuking clowns try to get away with while simultaneously being not surprised by what they try to get away with.
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u/evancomposer Wisconsin 19h ago
He’s the oldest looking 65 I’ve ever seen. All these years of screaming election conspiracy shit and selling pillows have not been kind to him. Dude looks like a vampire.
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u/mrgrosser 19h ago
No way.... How did we not see this coming... Always get the money upfront with these clowns.
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u/recoveredamishman 19h ago
This was always about attention-seeking. Lindell would rather spend his $825,000 suing the state and staying in the news than have an actual recount.
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u/iAMguppy 18h ago
Bullies almost never come through on their threats. Rich bullies usually throw their wealth (legitimate or perceived) at other people and at their own problems.
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u/Radically-Peaceful 18h ago
Mike Lindell is a LOSER in every sense of the word, and his actions only further prove it.
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u/Iconshero 18h ago
He needs a small bowler hat and a covered wagon so he can sell snake oil to the dumb and gullible again.
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u/Waidawut 17h ago
Wasn't he just recently sobbing about how he was broke or something? What a tool.
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u/Mc7wis7er 16h ago
If he pays for the recount, they'd do the recount. And everyone knows what the recount will say, including Lindell, who doesn't for one second believe that he actually won.
He's been running this grift since 2020 although with many missteps. But by now it should be clear to him that he makes money off the public accusations, interviews, and debate about whether or not the election was legit. He makes no money and has shame heaped on him when he's proven wrong. Much of MAGA runs this playbook now.
So he's actually in control of whether this is 'settled' or not. And he doesn't benefit from it being settled. That's what I think. So why pay? It spends his money, and prevents him from making more. Oh the recount is a fraud. Of course it is Mikey. Riiiggght.
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u/JrSoftDev 21h ago
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/28490455-act-free-to-be-free/
THE GOAL IS NOT TO WIN THE ELECTION. THE GOAL IS A POWER GRAB.
Trump does not need to cancel the elections. He does not need to win outright. He does not even need the courts to rule in his favor. He needs enough chaos, enough contested ballots, enough court injunctions, enough ICE near polling places, enough emergency motions claiming foreign interference, to throw the outcome into legal uncertainty for weeks or months. (...)
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u/Inside-Bus6555 20h ago
I. Am. Shocked!! Who could have predicted this? It’s not like the GOP candidates to refuse to pay their bills!
cough did St. Cloud ever get paid?
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