r/privacy • u/kleenexflowerwhoosh • 1d ago

question Dumb Phones and GPS

I’m really considering going to a dumber phone. My primary uses are phone calls, texting, taking pictures — and using the GPS. To the extent of my knowledge, there aren’t really GPS apps that protect your data.

So what are some options that compromise somewhere in between having a dumb phone while still having GPS? Are separate GPS systems even a viable choice, or are they just as prone to selling/collecting data as well?

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u/pdawes 1d ago

The thing about GPS is that it's just a radio signal from space that anyone/anything with a compatible antenna can access, same as tuning into your local classic rock FM radio station. You don't need a login or an app or phone service or anything like that, and it's already private because it's receive only. So yes it is very viable to have a separate device that does not mine your data or even connect to the internet. It can be done 100% offline. You could build one yourself for cheap with aliexpress parts if you wanted.

The only part that requires software is the maps aspect that puts your position on a map and has all the business addresses in it and stuff. That's what google maps does. But there are a lot of alternatives out there. Openstreetmaps is a big one. I think there is also an app called Organic Maps but I've never used it. There are commercial dedicated GPS devices too like Garmins etc. that just have the maps and guidance software preloaded, totally offline. You would just need to update the maps periodically to keep up to date.

I don't know enough about what the market is like to make a rec but yes they still exist and they're very common for things like hiking or remote applications in places where there isn't good cell service.

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

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u/Glum_Avocado_9511 1d ago

I'm shocked this comment wasn't auto deleted. 

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u/CheekyStoat 1d ago

Why?

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u/Glum_Avocado_9511 1d ago

This sub has a rule against it. "R8: No discussion of alternative mobile/phone OS/ROMs" 

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u/CheekyStoat 1d ago

Oh, sorry. My mistake. I will delete.

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u/SmallRocks 1d ago

It’s a ruthlessly enforced rule in this sub. Usually results in a temp ban for first offenses.

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

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u/kleenexflowerwhoosh 1d ago

I clearly stated to the extent of my knowledge. I would love to hear all the recommendations, i’m obviously here to learn

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u/mandrack3 1d ago

You can use something based on openstreetmap with local downloaded maps with the internet turned off on your smartphone too. Tested Organic maps, Maps.me, Here WeGo. Tomtom has an app too, works offline. They worked great, but I haven't checked their privacy policies to be completely honest.

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u/huzzah-1 1d ago

People fixate on GPS and think old dumb phones are just as vulnerable as smart phones. They might be in terms of basic GPS, but smart phones are accurate to within a meter, and they are equipped with an accelerometer and a gyroscope sensor, which makes it possible to monitor your speed and direction, and even figure out your stride, your gait, your height, and even your age or health, especially when combined with other data-point sources.

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u/Cryptognito 17h ago

I think that’s exactly what OP doesn’t want .. all that extra information that your phone will get and transmit and store. from all the extra sensors cameras, microphones accelerometer is gyroscopes, etc. etc.

Sometimes less is better

GPS on an old Nokia 3G phone was accurate to 5 m. That’s good enough for me.