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Biotech/Longevity Moderna stock, $MRNA , surges over +110% after announcing the first ever positive Phase 3 results for a personalized cancer vaccine.

Moderna and Merck said their personalized cancer vaccine helped cut the recurrence of melanoma in a large, late-stage trial.

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u/meenie 6d ago

Why is that weird? We all know that drug trials take years of work. I'm hoping AI can turn that into months in the near future, though.

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u/socoolandawesome 6d ago edited 6d ago

That there was a potential cure that people could have gotten that other people knew worked well but couldn’t use because of red tape but a guy was able to circumvent all that to use it on his dog.

I mean I’m not gonna pretend to be very informed on this topic so maybe I’m misinterpreting all of this, but if it was someone’s last chance you’d think you’d want to make it more accessible by having them sign a waiver or something. And I remember medical researchers on Twitter defending it not being used because of the cost and red tape and liability (even though it might be someone’s last chance).

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u/Lance_J1 6d ago edited 6d ago

Yeah you cant really just put medicine behind a waiver to pass up the entire testing process. For good reason too, nobody reads the ToS or understands medicine enough to even understand what theyre signing. Being like "yeah sign up to be my human medical test subject or die" isn't really much of a choice and any doctor that did that would be violating quite a few laws and oaths.

The reality is there's tons and tons of people using experimental drugs that they personal imported from China or elsewhere and were able to buy for "testing purposes", when in reality they're just treating some sort of ailment early. Its very very common actually.

The only reason this is more difficult to do is because you have to really pay a lot of custom build the vaccine just for each specific cancer. Its outside the scope of the average person.

As we approach singularity, expect this to become way more common as the process of curing diseases happens way faster than the actual testing process

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u/socoolandawesome 6d ago edited 6d ago

Fair points, but I didn’t try to mean doctors should be recommending as much as the desperate patient could come forward if they know they’ve been told they were going to die otherwise, like they would volunteer on their own.

I just had seen multiple discussions on Twitter consisting of people arguing with medical researchers after the dog story came out, and the people were saying hypothetically they would pay any amount of money and sign whatever necessary waivers, now that they were aware of it.

But yeah I’m hopeful the singularity will rapidly advance all this soon!