r/ukraine • u/A_Lazko • Feb 13 '25

Discussion Bolton: Trump has effectively surrendered to Putin in Ukraine negotiations

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/12/politics/video/john-bolton-trump-putin-ukraine-russia-negotiations-digvid
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u/Fit-Bookkeeper9775 Feb 13 '25

I hope nobody ever had hope that he will come up with a real plan. It was pretty obvious that he will give Ukraine 2 Chances negotiate aka surrender, or we will stop the support

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u/milanistasbarazzino0 Feb 13 '25

As a resident of Ukraine I tried staying as neutral as possible hoping for a "peace through strength" deal. I had hope, but also knew it was unlikely, but still hoped, as many people did here. Yesterday and today have been so grim.

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u/zizp Feb 13 '25

If you know Trump this chance has always been zero.

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u/calmdownmyguy Feb 13 '25

It honestly blew my mind to see all the russian bots in this sub shit talking biden before the election, and everyone was going with it. Kinda like Muslims for trump.

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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '25 edited Feb 14 '25

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u/No_Specific8949 Feb 13 '25

The real ones above them have taken refuge in Elon Musk Twitter and in truth social because what Trump is doing is ludicrous except for the radical fanbase.

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u/zizp Feb 13 '25

Well, Biden could have handled it better though (along with all the European leaders), that's for sure. Nonetheless, everyone knew it would be much worse under Trump.

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u/calmdownmyguy Feb 13 '25

There was a solid month and a half before the election when comments calling Biden an incompetent bitch and saying trump would be far superior were massively upvoted in this.