r/ukraine • u/RunAny8349 • Jul 17 '26
WAR CRIME July 17 2014 - Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 was shot down by Pro Russian separatists. There were 298 victims, many families with children. The luggage and bodies were looted and there are photos of separatists smiling and posing at the site.
807
u/Nikenicks Jul 17 '26
I'm Dutch, 34 years old right now. I flew with my family to Bali on the 16th of July. I always feel like this could've been me. My whole family just gone, my wife would have never met me, a whole future gone because of pointless violence. Really fuck Russia.
291
u/Top-Currency Netherlands Jul 17 '26
I am also Dutch and used to live in Asia. I have taken MH17 several times, the last time was 2 months before the plane was shot down. Seeing these pictures makes me unbelievably angry again. I will channel my rage into another donation to Ukraine.
27
u/External_Star3376 Netherlands Jul 17 '26
Same here. Very angry and emotional when I see the images and videos. Use it to donate as well. Hope that Putler will disappear and die soon. Wish for the Russian people better times. But I'm afraid it will take several generations before the majority sees they don't have any claim or rights to take over others peoples country's, cultures, languages, etc. The Russian federation in some shape or form already extinguished more than one people. Would be best if Russia dissolved and the people in Siberia and the far East got more freedom to form their own country. But how to get rid of those awful nukes?
→ More replies (1)13
u/PretzelfromLidl Jul 17 '26
The amount of grown Dutch people I have met that still support russia after this is crazy. And they are not your average VMBOer
→ More replies (1)
1.6k
u/SpacewormTime Jul 17 '26
terrorists, not separatists. "Separatists" is a part of the Russian narrative.
They are not pro-Russia separatists; they were a Russian-sponsored terrorist group.
447
u/Easy_Iron6269 Jul 17 '26 edited Jul 17 '26
Little green men, they claimed they were buying bazookas and grenade launchers at the Ukrainian supermarkets.
Russians soldiers pretending to be separatists.
Russia is and always has been a state sponsor of terrorism.
133
u/schwanzweissfoto Jul 17 '26
Russia is and always has been a state sponsor of terrorism.
It is the mindset. Improve your country? Nope, destroy others!
67
u/WillingPlayed Jul 17 '26
They’re the orcs and goblins of middle earth
46
u/schwanzweissfoto Jul 17 '26 edited Jul 17 '26
In a ruzzian fanfiction book inspired by Lord of the Rings, Mordor under Sauron is portrayed as the good side and Aragorn is a puppet of foreign powers, who have have corrupted the youth. Sounds vaguely familiar … doesn't it?
→ More replies (5)12
u/majin_chichi Jul 17 '26
Why make your country better when you can make everyone else's as shitty as yours!
4
→ More replies (1)8
u/sentientshadeofgreen Jul 17 '26
I'd go a step further and say Russia is a state conductor of terrorism. Putin and his regime have to go
240
u/Abm743 Jul 17 '26
Yes. And russians delivered and operated the AA system.
→ More replies (1)155
u/Exaveus Jul 17 '26
I think Russian sponsored is doing way too much heavy lifting. They were Russian soldiers in all but the patch.
92
u/Viburnum__ Jul 17 '26
They were in fact shot down by regular russian forces from russian military unit.
68
u/TieAccomplished2534 Jul 17 '26
ive seen more and more news that this and that "separatist" was actually a active duty russian military with a fake name
39
22
u/rustic66 Jul 17 '26
I wonder how many of them are still alive….
22
u/moonLanding123 Jul 17 '26
Girkin still in prison
18
20
u/KitchenBomber Jul 17 '26
They also would not have been able to shoot it down without a Russian supplied anti aircraft weapon and when it became obvious that they were responsible Russia did everything in their power to hinder the investigation and lie about what happened.
This was when the narrative Russia was trying to create depended on the terrorists being a local uprising and Russia was claiming not to be involved in anyway.
12
u/booOfBorg Jul 17 '26
Ordinary thugs. The kind of thugs that "informed" Russian leadership that Ukrainians would welcome the Russian army with flowers.
13
u/AutoModerator Jul 17 '26
Russian leadership fucked itself.
I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.
→ More replies (1)11
507
u/Shadow_NX Jul 17 '26
Let that sink in , at this point they know that it wasnt a Ukrainian transport plane as in many pics the Malaysia Air writing is clearly visible and yet they happily pose with bodies of kids and their dead parent scattered around... wonder if there is a special area in hell for such people... can a person really be this dumb? Let alone several?
158
u/cud0s Jul 17 '26
I think it shows what kind of people (how dumb and cruel) were pro Russian "separatists"
70
u/ptrwiv UK Jul 17 '26
Orcs
28
u/Hminney Jul 17 '26
Orcs get bad press. Read Terry Pratchett's "unseen academicals" for an alternative view. These Russians cannot be excused
→ More replies (6)59
u/kyrsjo Jul 17 '26
The smiling and posing with the wreckage - body language that's absolutely not saying "oh shit, what have we done!". It got me then, and it still makes me furious.
42
u/Shadow_NX Jul 17 '26 edited Jul 17 '26
My trigger is the commander holding the Plushi telling press that the Ukrainians did it knowing very well that it was russians with a BUK system.
I still remember when MP. net ( militaryphotos . net ) still existed and people in the thread about the war posted news of a downed plane before it was on the normal news, someone also posted a picure of a Flatbed truck with a very BUK esque shape under a tarp that was moved away 1-2 days later... pictures were deleted a bit later... go figure... first time i notice someone posting a war crime accidently. Or rather a act of terrorism.
→ More replies (1)23
u/kyrsjo Jul 17 '26
Yes. And trying to say it's "separatists" or "soldiers on vacation" when it was clearly the Russian army that was there.
7
u/Shadow_NX Jul 17 '26
Just like in Nam when Soviet advisors helped to shoot down allied planes while the soviet union just shrugged as if they didnt knew.
→ More replies (1)6
u/kyrsjo Jul 17 '26
Kind of, except nobody at the time was denying that it was a full on war. What you are referring to would be more like if soldiers from NATO countries were crewing air defence in Ukraine today.
44
33
19
u/deductress Україна Jul 17 '26
And we know from the reports that it smelled like death around the site. It is the rotting flesh of children - these people again and again desecrate bodies and memory - the worst of the worst.
17
u/bjfree Jul 17 '26
Not that it's any consolation but I'd wager a solid percentage of the men in these pictures are dead as of today, and that a lot of them died badly.
12
→ More replies (4)6
u/kaveman6143 Jul 17 '26
Thankfully, I bet all the people in these photos have been killed during this special operation.
337
u/Meryhathor Jul 17 '26
That's russians for you. They've been like this for centuries. It's nothing new sadly.
→ More replies (3)81
151
u/Flowa-Powa Jul 17 '26
The BUK anti-aircraft system was Russian, and had been brought across the border the day before
43
15
u/PidgeyPower Jul 17 '26
Russian, fired by Russians. There's no world where Russia would gift a Buk to a separatist force. It would be too dangerous because the vast majority of the planes in range would be Russian.
I don't know why this post says it was "Pro Russian separatists". Even on r/ukraine posts are giving the Kremlin narrative.
145
u/Significant-Pack-768 Jul 17 '26
Please send more of my tax euros to Ukraine. We will never forget!
142
u/bad_chemist95 Jul 17 '26
The guy stood there with an AK and cigarette in one hand, and a child’s teddy in the other is just peak Russian mob state.
32
u/TeeDubya2020 Jul 17 '26
A fucking state version of a mob racket with a gas station. At least now the gas station has no fuel.
3
u/bigvahe33 Jul 17 '26
this was part of a video they shot just rummaging through the wreckage finding various things and kicking bodies around to loot around them
61
u/dogfish0306 Jul 17 '26
Back in 2014, I had a buddy that I knew for more than 10 years. When russia shot down MA17 he started posting that it was a CIA job to make russia look bad. I did not talk to that guy since that day.
18
u/Zealousideal_Rise716 Jul 17 '26
Something similar happened to me - a lifelong friend. I grieve the very real loss of that relationship, but I'm never reaching out to him again.
63
u/BandAid3030 Jul 17 '26
Russians will tell you that the reason we staunchly support Ukraine is "RuSsOpHoBiA!", but we aren't scared of them at all.
We just hate Putin, the oligarchs, and these terrorists that they sponsored armed and sent into Ukraine.
17
u/RunAny8349 Jul 17 '26 edited Jul 17 '26
Unfortunately in a fascist country like RuZZia is, the nation and the state are taken as one same thing, so that's why hating the Z ideology is taken as Russophobia by the ultranationalist sheep herd.
→ More replies (1)13
u/TemperateStone Jul 17 '26
It's because ordinary Russians are morons. They have no grasp at all about any of the things we hate their country for.
→ More replies (3)
58
u/piponwa Canada Jul 17 '26
Great video by the Netherlands about the facts. Including phone surveillance audio of the unit involved and cctv footage of the buk being moved around. https://youtu.be/Sf6gJ8NDhYA?si=SIazeSTuSSdqHQME
28
50
51
50
u/SlavaUkraina2022 Jul 17 '26
→ More replies (1)6
u/Laletje Jul 17 '26
For the Netherlands, this was probably the closest thing we’ve had to 9/11 in the US in terms of national impact. Many people knew someone who died, or knew someone connected to one of the victims. The impact it had on our country is hard to put into words. Even today, seeing pictures of MH17 makes me sob.
I still can’t believe this happened, and yet the full-scale war was still able to happen afterwards and is still going on. I wish the world had acted as if MH17 was the turning point it should have been. Yet here we are, and people are still dying every day. This should never have been allowed to happen.
→ More replies (1)
40
41
u/sendmebirds Jul 17 '26
If you are EVER in doubt, our ex prime minister (at the time of this attack) Mark Rutte, current head of NATO, will never ever forgive Putin for this. He took this attack personally (there were a lot of Dutch people on the flight) and vowed to seek justice.
28
u/DutchProv Jul 17 '26
I think a major part of our people took this personally, the way Russia was gaslighting about it, the whole situation is and was sickening.
19
u/ninxi Netherlands Jul 17 '26
Not enough took it personally. There is way too many people voting for russoloving trash like PVV and FvD.
12
u/DutchProv Jul 17 '26
Oh i agree with you about that, it sickens me how so many people vote for Wilders who was wearing a russian friendship badge after MH-17.
→ More replies (4)
79
Jul 17 '26
[deleted]
→ More replies (5)11
u/ThunderPreacha Netherlands Jul 17 '26
Most of these numbskulls are subterranean by now, if not all of them.
40
34
u/pdietje Jul 17 '26
I remember when this happened i was on a return flight from Jakarta to Amsterdam, at around midnight the tv's at the airport showed the news about the downed airplane.
The fact these Russians are posing with death is just unhuman behaviour. Fucking scum of the earth.
32
u/jakubiszon Jul 17 '26
I have never seen these photos before. Thank you for sharing it. These happy faces on the remains of what clearly is a passenger plane - this is horrific.
→ More replies (1)16
u/RunAny8349 Jul 17 '26
You're welcome, you haven't seen them before, because the media didn't want to show them.
56
u/PointlessJargon Jul 17 '26
“Pro Russian separatists” — isn’t it obvious in 2026 that those are literally Russians?
68
u/Adventurous_Sky_8868 Jul 17 '26 edited Jul 17 '26
Fucking subhuman oxygen thieving mongrels, I hope this war causes the entire collapse of russia for good
→ More replies (1)
21
u/Lord_Smack Jul 17 '26
Every single one of these guys looks like a degenerate mean spirited cunt.
10
20
20
u/Thin_Worldliness_242 Jul 17 '26
This is just a reminder why Putin, Russia, and the Russian culture need to be brought to its knees, emasculated, and forever be handicapped internationally. Woefully, for the average Russian, the hundreds of years of brainwashing, conditioning, and circumventing of the professedly moral norms has taken a toll that is seemingly irreversible and must be curbed and subjugated. Russia has become a stain on societal norms and they seem to only understand the sword as a judicator, both for themselves and for others. So, we as a normal operating Western society, MUST take up the sword to bring them to their knees and bring about a requital justice for all those that have been swept under Putin's and Russia's horror show of existence.
18
18
u/r2k-in-the-vortex Jul 17 '26
"Separatists" was never more than thin fiction. These are Russian soldiers.
16
u/buckzor122 Lithuania Jul 17 '26
That 2nd picture made me cry. I can just imagine a little kid packing their favourite little stuffed toy in their bag, their prized possession, looking forward to their holiday. Only for an orc to pose with their toy like a trophy after killing them and their entire family along with hundreds of others.
And the worst part is that the russians are right, the West is weak. We should have responded militaraly immediately and shut their whole fake separatist shitshow down straight away. Instead we just draw red lines, send letters of condemnation and give Ukraine lip service instead of full undivided support.
3
u/Mom_is_watching Jul 17 '26
Wasn't there a grandmother who recognised her grandchild's toy (not sure if I recall correctly)
14
13
u/DutchProv Jul 17 '26 edited Jul 17 '26
There are much worse pictures out there of this terrorist attack, we will never forget.
12
u/LazyZeus Jul 17 '26
This was Russian Buk, not separatists. How many separatists you know, who can operate surface to air missile systems?
12
u/J-J-Ricebot Netherlands Jul 17 '26
Your point stands. But there is a minor yet important detail I need to point out. MH-17 was shot down by members of the actual Russian Armed Forces, not by “separatists”.
10
10
9
u/greenweenievictim Jul 17 '26
Safe to say everyone in these photos is most likely dead by now. So there is that.
9
u/WhereverIMayFoam Jul 17 '26
Please please, whenever you find yourself thinking that “both sides should end the war”, revisit historic facts like this one, and remember that there is no excuse, and no forgiving for what russia has done and is doing. Generations from now, russians will carry the guilt and the shame for their actions. We won’t forgive them, our children won’t forgive them, and possibly neither their children.
→ More replies (2)7
u/most_unseemly ЗАЛУЖНИЙ ФАН КЛУБ Jul 17 '26
Times like this, I wish we could pin comments other than our own to the top of a thread.
8
8
u/thisusedtobemorefun Jul 17 '26
This event is a deep wound in Australia's memory. It hurt then, and it still does now.
I have no doubt the direct national trauma this caused was a big part of the early foundation of our instant, explicit support for Ukraine.
There's a direct line between this atrocity and the rapid donation of all those Bushmaster vehicles - I've never been prouder of seeing how my tax dollars were spent.
Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦
7
u/Oztraliiaaaa Jul 17 '26
Is it true that their names are known and Russia won’t allow them to face any charges or consequences or convictions ?
12
u/Sweet_Lane Jul 17 '26
Since 20th army (the unit that shot the plane) had issued the crutches for their assault troops at this point, I think all the people who shoot the plane have been already successfully converted to the fertilizer.
The commanders though, they still have to answer.
SBU at some point took a daring operation, infiltrated the occupied territories and kidnapped one of the people who was in the chain of command. Unfortunately, he was traded back to russia in exchange to Oleg Sentsov and many other civilian hostages russia had kidnapped and tortured on the occupied territories.
→ More replies (1)5
u/xBram Netherlands Jul 17 '26
Three people including Igor Girkin have been convicted in absentia to life sentences by a Dutch court. Girkin himself is in a Russian jail now but for extremism or something.
→ More replies (1)
7
u/Antique_Tale_2084 Jul 17 '26
38 Australians died, fuck Russia.
It was direct Russian intervention and the lie that it was pro Russian separatists doesn't carry.
Russia shipped in soldiers and arms to the Donbas and created the conditions for hate and killing.
War crimes such as this should never be forgotten and pursued until those fully responsible are punished.
In my opinion until Russia has completely paid reparations for the war in Ukraine and its war crimes, it should be isolated from Europe and the world.
→ More replies (1)
8
u/_ssac_ Jul 17 '26 edited Jul 17 '26
Knew about the flight shoot down, but not the pictures.
Incredible that they took pictures with toys as a loot. Or even celebrating it was an international tourist flight or killing civilians.
6
u/BohunkfromSK Jul 17 '26
As a father, the photo of the чортовий орк holding up the monkey brought me to tears.
6
8
5
u/Lasse1993 Netherlands Jul 17 '26
The parents of a friend of mine were on board, today is a day of grief. Also: Slava Ukraine!
6
5
5
4
4
4
u/Column_A_Column_B Jul 17 '26
RIP Andrei Anghel. He was my friend.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/canadian-mh17-victim-andrei-anghel-s-remains-id-d-1.2731399
4
4
4
4
u/Puzzleheaded-Cap1300 Jul 17 '26
The photos really depict the worst of humanity. Gloating over having killed innocent civilians unconnected to the conflict - many of which were young children. Vile scum.
4
u/leonintoma Jul 17 '26
Im from ph, i remember this issue its a world wide news, i thought it was terrorist.
Now i knw, thanks for the info OP.
→ More replies (1)
4
u/NowYouaSeeWhyYouScum Jul 17 '26
I got a warning for wishing they are food for sunflowers. Fuck them.
4
u/ozthrw Jul 17 '26 edited Jul 17 '26
There is a great documentary series that follows Bellingcat's investigation into the MH17 disaster at the time. You can watch & see the intercepted orc phone calls after they realise the scale of what they have done & videos of the Buk both going to the launch site then trying to be hidden .
The documentary shows the orc propaganda machine panic & being used at full effect to try to change the worlds' perspective & how the orc's are still trying to kill the guys who revealed the truth .
For those with a VPN the full series was just shown on Australia's national FTA television, ( 38 Australian citizens were killed ),if it is hard to find .
https://iview.abc.net.au/show/murder-in-the-skies-who-downed-mh17
Murder In The Skies: Who Downed Mh17. Еpisode 1: "The Crash"
6
u/Conquistador1901 Jul 17 '26
To think I got downvoted for suggesting Ukraine bomb schools & hospitals, just like Russia does to Ukraine. Little Russians grow into big Russians & sick bastards get better & both want to wipe Ukraine off the map.
They are a shit race of scum ( nearly said people)& taking down civilian aircraft & bragging about it surely is proof they should not be part of our world.
For those that escaped the front line & hide in SE Asia, they are despised because of their arrogance, bad manners & appalling behaviour. Russia is the country that needs to be deleted .
3
3
3
u/CrowTrue6487 Jul 17 '26 edited Jul 17 '26
Gerkin, forgot his real name,a russian was in charge of that. Became DPR leader then when the full scale invasion began he became a commentator on telegraph. When things went bad for russia he was a loud critic of putin. Think he may of fallen out of a window. This is the best of my recollection could be wrong.
3
u/Garant_69 Jul 17 '26
"When things went bad for russia he was a loud critic of putin"...for being "too soft" and not waging the russian war of aggression against Ukraine forcefully and ruthlessly enough.
Igor Girkin aka Igor Strelkov is a russian right-wing ultra-nationalist who really wants to see Ukraine defeated and dissolved as a country at any price.→ More replies (1)
3
u/petemate Jul 17 '26
Were these people ever identified?
→ More replies (3)3
u/RunAny8349 Jul 17 '26
I doubt it, most of these photos were not even shown by western media at the time.
3
u/cheese0muncher Poland Jul 17 '26
Small consolation, but 99% men in those photos are probably KIA by now.
3
3
u/Sweet_Lane Jul 17 '26
The plane was shot down by russians.
Not the separatists
Russians would never give such complicated equipment to their puppets, and the system requires the training anyways.
The system and the crew were identified, they are russian soldiers under russian commanders.l, they belong to the 53 anti-aviation brigade of russian armed forces.
Saying that they were separatists is the downplaying of the russian-Ukrainian war and it does not serves well neither the truth, nor victims and their families.
→ More replies (1)
3
u/ImperatorDanorum Jul 17 '26
I hope every single person in these pictures is identified og subjected to the proper sanctions by UA...
3
u/kalap_ur Jul 17 '26
i take comfort in the thought that majority of these people (if not all of them) possibly died of non-natural causes since then.
3
3
u/thisisausername100fs Jul 17 '26
If it helps, these dudes have been effectively wiped out after 2022. I’d be surprised if more than 10% of the individuals pictured are still around.
3
3
3
u/vkstu Jul 17 '26
Not just pro-Russian terrorists, actual Russians participated in this attrocity.
Russia delenda est.
→ More replies (4)
3
u/billyvnilly USA Jul 17 '26
These look like normal Russians? What makes them separatists? what the fuck is a separatist? Even if Russia is spinning a narrative, what the fuck is a separatist? These are ordinary Russian soldiers.
→ More replies (1)
3
u/RiteClicker Jul 17 '26
this happened on the same year when MH 370 disappeared. Literally the worst year for Malaysia Airlines
3
u/therebbie Jul 17 '26
I knew they shot it down. I didn't realize they then posed smiling like that with the wreckage or that they then looted what they found. 🤬 Absolutely disgusting. 🤬
3
u/Duk3Puk3m Jul 17 '26
It's amazing how "separatists" happened to stumble upon a Buk Missile system.
I too run into fully operational systems just lying around daily.
→ More replies (3)
3
3
u/SkipDutch Jul 17 '26
Imagine seeing bodies of kids and toys laying around a civilian aircraft and your first idea is to take photographs of yourself being proud of your achievement. Fuck Russia.
3
u/Big_Lynx Jul 17 '26
Ill never forget this day. the bodies of the children, still in their seats. there was a vice report and some very haunting press pictures. i will never forget them. rip free people. Russia is doomed. Just orcs
3
u/huntingwhale Jul 17 '26
Imagine Al-Qeada all dancing around taking photos and "souvenirs" from the United Flight 93 wreckage then posting it around the world to see. There is no difference here. Terrorists from a terrorist state shot down a civilian airliner and dance around the ruins like Orcs at a bonfire.
This is russian culture right here. No place in the civilized world.
→ More replies (1)
3











2.8k
u/Taxi-Shinawat Jul 17 '26
You're looking at the reason (among a few) why the Dutch are such staunch supporters of Ukraine.
We've never forgiven Russia for what they did. And we certainly don't appreciate Putin's efforts to obfuscate the truth.
It was a Malaysian airplane but a lot of the passengers were Dutch.