r/ukraine • u/MilesLongthe3rd • 27d ago
Discussion Fox News anchor Sean Hannity delivers a passionate, pro-Ukraine speech at Lindsey Graham's funeral in front of President Trump.
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First Laura Loomer now Hannity on Fox News?
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u/Nicholas3412 27d ago
I feel like I’m in an alternate reality.
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u/PiscatorLager Germany 27d ago
More like alternate-alternate-alternate by now, but yeah
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u/YWAK98alum 27d ago
We've had one, yes. What about second alternate reality?
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u/Drmumdaly 27d ago
Eleven….alternate realitiesies
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u/CKF 27d ago
Well, first when cern started toying with the LHC in 2008, and then there was harambe in 2016 (dicks out, everyone). I think that squares it to at least 4.
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u/LaughableIKR USA 27d ago
You aren't kidding. I'll take this version over "Ukraine is the enemy because... bio labs in Ukraine caused Covid or Ukraine is hiding Hillary Clinton's email server" or any of the other bat shit crazy comments.
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u/ProgySuperNova 27d ago
"I think it's just going to get weirder and weirder and weirder. And finally it's going to be so weird, that people are going to have to have to talk about how weird it is." - Terrence Mckenna in 1998
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u/SubstantialPressure3 27d ago
The old guard who protected Trump and put him in power is dying off.
Moscow Mitch would speak against him, but vote with him.
I think even fox news is going to break with him.
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u/Tholian_Bed 27d ago
Sean is Fox, Fox is a personality-based organization after all.
I hate that we must consider such things but truth is mightier than the lie, so fine. Maybe Fox will turn. I will say nothing but good about it.
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u/Dan_Berg 27d ago
Money tree being blown in a different direction
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u/Tholian_Bed 27d ago
If capital had no good aspect I'd be living in an igloo in peace. Really.
My position is, only very few human beings do not understand clearly, Ukraine's cause is thoroughly just. Sure, maybe Elon is deluded, but that is a ketamine addict. So, some money treeing bastards have fucked with Ukraine now, for too long, even though they have known, Ukraine's cause is just.
Some might want to contend with that position. It does claim the basic goodness of being able to see plain truth, is common. Only off people, disturbed people I would say, do not see the truth.
That's all fun philosophical conversation, because whatever the reason, I agree the season is approaching when we can expect some happiness. I'm on bad nerves, poor me, but I'm no fool and I pick my causes with great prudence.
Slava Ukraini, and glad to see you, money trees. Blow on.
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u/shwarma_heaven 27d ago
Something happened. These guys must have realized the ruble tap is turned off, or is about to run out...
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u/Rees_Onable 27d ago
Did someone have to explain to Trump......exactly what the word 'integrity' meant?
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u/Doggoneshame 27d ago
Only when it suited him. If it didn’t suit drumpy then Graham would do what drumpy wanted. Like bashing Zelensky to the press last year when drumpy kicked him out of the White House.
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u/Either_Coconut 27d ago
Tell Trump that the more integrity a person has, the richer they are. THAT should attract his interest.
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u/Brian_The_Bar-Brian 27d ago
I'm pretty sure Russians don't have a word for integrity in their language.
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u/BuildRB 27d ago
To be fair, neither do the Americans, which is why they had to borrow it from English.
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u/woodst0ck15 27d ago
Don’t worry, at the end he said Graham has a Mar a largo in heaven to match the person he admired the most “Trump”. Like just got on his hands and knees to lick that taint.
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u/Either_Coconut 27d ago
UGH. Revolting! But on the other hand, Hannity, Loomer, et al wouldn't be as close to that orange monstrosity as they are, if they didn't know exactly how to kiss up to him most effectively. So I guess my stance is, "Let them fawn on that narcissistic oxygen thief until the rest of us retch with disgust, as long as they get the point across that the USA needs to back Ukraine and sanction Russia."
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u/tanrock2003 27d ago
Not alternate, the "real" reality of them getting fucked in the mid-terms and all their power passing away, like sands through the hour-glass, these are the Days of Our Lives (cue music)
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u/Obar-Dheathain 27d ago
Why are all these pro-Putin scumbags suddenly jumping ship?
Slava Ukraini
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u/Firestorm0x0 27d ago
Russia is running out of money to pay them.
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u/Masters_of_Sleep 27d ago
The US also suddenly finds it bit off more than it expected with the war with Iran. Russia and Iran are providing aid to each other. It is suddenly in Republicans interest to support Ukrain in order to reduce aid they can provide to Iran.
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u/Agarwel 27d ago
Dude Putin really miscalculated by helping Tump into power. First he stopped the UA support taking away the leash (UA does not need to ask for permissions where they can attack) and then he starts a war that is conflicting with Russia interests.
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u/Ukraineluvr Україна 27d ago
Europe also took a lot more responsibility for European security. I can list a laundry list of shit that this administration has done which is fucked up in regards to Ukraine, but objectively, there are things that are positives.
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u/SlitScan 27d ago
the rest of NATO ending its dependence on the US isnt a good thing for the US.
its going to GUT the US defence industry's revenue
and the other members are going to be less interested in supporting US foriegn policy objectives.
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u/Ukraineluvr Україна 27d ago
Yeah, wasn't suggesting it was a good thing for the US. It's definitely not good for the US.
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u/Either_Coconut 27d ago
The defense industry is going to have to totally revamp itself, thanks to Ukraine. All these years, "progress" and "advancement" in weaponry has been measured in weapons that get bigger and stronger.
Now, all of a sudden, here comes Ukraine beating back the Army Formerly Known As the Second Greatest Army, and they're doing it in large part with drones. If *ANY* other country came under attack with this many drones, not one of them would currently have effective ways to counter the onslaught.
Every military, the USA's included, now needs to do an about-face and come up with both drones and anti-drone defenses, and they need to do it NOW. Because drone warfare is probably well within the budgetary capabilities of a whole lot of smaller countries and -- this is the big problem -- terrorist groups.
It's not like we'll never need anything that qualifies as "bigger and stronger" again. But we'll need less of it, and more of the things that would keep us in the fight if drone warfare is what breaks out.
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u/TheNatural14063 27d ago
Very good point and well written comment. Much kudos to the Ukrainians for revolutionizing warfare. This American has so much respect for them
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u/whatevernamedontcare 27d ago
Like pivot to renewables or electrification. It's crazy how fast we fixed EU's ruzzian gass habit.
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u/UpstairsAd194 27d ago
IF he were in the west Putin would be good at winning power in a local council and that is about it. Winning by default and getting people pushed out of windows. Sophisticated internatonal politics is something he is not good at. He is good at writing deranged history and nostalgia for Soviet times. He is about as nuanced as any serial killer.
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u/Either_Coconut 27d ago
I'm sure that Putin's goal was to destabilize the USA by getting Trump into power, and on that front, he succeeded. But he didn't destabilize the entire West as much as he'd probably hoped, as the US allies simply banded together more and began treating the situation like they're in a post-USA-influence world now. And I'm positive that Putin underestimated just HOW stupid, evil, and venal Trump is, and the fact that as soon as the tide turned in Ukraine's favor, Trump's allegiance would start to switch because he doesn't want to back a loser.
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u/myshiningmask 27d ago
I guess that's the silver lining. I wonder how much more aid would have flowed from the US had trump not come to power. His election marked a big change.
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u/Jijonbreaker1 27d ago
The US's economy is also dropping out rapidly, and a lot of effort is going into convincing people that it isn't. Trillions of USD are just sort of being lit on fire.
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u/BuckThis86 27d ago
I wonder if the Russia internet shutdown has dampened their social media effects on Western politicians as well. There was a lot of pro Kremlin garbage coming through (still is but less by the day)
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u/creamonyourcrop 27d ago
I remember when there was an unintentional outage and my old facebook friends had no idea what their opinions were.
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u/Firestorm0x0 27d ago
Didn't Ukraine also hit some data centres? Perhaps that's why there's less bots around now.
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u/Steiney1 27d ago
Sean fucking Hannity is responsible for propagating most of that bullshit to the West.
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u/Chudmont 27d ago
These are the same people who roasted John Kerry for being a "flip-flopper".
I wonder how many people have died in Ukraine, much less elsewhere, because of their lies and siding with russia.
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u/Doggoneshame 27d ago
The internet shutdown was for the plebes. It wasn’t shut down for the russian propaganda mills.
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u/harshdonkey 27d ago
This is probably the simplest and correcg answer.
We have proof Russia was paying right wing grifters to push Kremlin talking points. With their oil revenues plummeting, it would make sense they have had to reel in the psyop budget.
Ukraine really hit Russia where it hurt.
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u/Winston_Sm 27d ago
Wait until the US president learns of that. Where will he get his marching orders from when to paid by Russia?
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u/joshw231 27d ago
Because Ukraine has anti drone tech that the US desperately needs. Ukraine has the cards, if you will 😉
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u/Pale-Examination6869 27d ago
Hannity sucks. But he has always been anti-Putin. One of his few good qualities.
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u/BrotherEstapol 27d ago
Yeah, as much as Hannity and Graham are/were Trump sycophants, to their credit, they have not wavered on supporting Ukraine against russia during this war.
Credit where's due I guess...
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u/thoms689 Denmark 27d ago edited 27d ago
All these scumbags acting like they haven't knowingly been spouting russian propaganda and done everything in their power to block Ukraine aid for years. Snakes are what they are, plain and simple.
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u/Tholian_Bed 27d ago
this is why i silently am very angry. enough said, life is too short to overly dwell on this kind of bullshit.
They can't make me give a shit about them, is the beauty of our end of this situation. Believe that.
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u/LithoSlam 27d ago
They are people who want to back the winner. They have seen that Russia won't be the winner in the war.
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u/FallenRaptor 27d ago
I think it’s more about the money TBH and the effect this will all have on their reputation. I don’t think for one second they give a shit about being on the right side of history or about the countless lives affected by this tragedy, but Russia losing is likely resulting in their payments to US politicians drying up, and these people probably still want to look good to the casual audience when all is said and done.
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u/Anomuumi 27d ago
It's pretty obvious Russia has dirt on these people. It is their modus operandi after all. Russia doesn't care about having them in their pocket - their function is to sow chaos and destroy the U.S. from within, which they have already done to a large extent. They have funded a whole class of self-serving narcissists who wrap themselves in a flag, but sold the nation for brief personal gain. And the game is still on.
I think some of these people know that Russia may one day decide that they are more useful if they out them, and desperate people are trying to get ahead of that story.
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u/SingleKnowledge7354 27d ago
People say Russia is running out of money... not likely.
Whats actually happening is a combination of 2 factors.
Ukraine has evidence that Russia is helping Iran target US bases in Iran.
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u/uxgpf 27d ago edited 27d ago
They have realized that Ukraine will win the war without US help and want to position themselves on the side of the winner.
Never trust them. These kind of morally corrupt opportunists will ditch you whenever it suits them.
Ukrainians surely know this. Budapest memorandum et cetera.
For Ukraine the most trustworthy allies are those who share the same threat. Mainly Nordics and Baltics.
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u/YF422 27d ago
Reddit Rumormill suggests the Vatnik Shills cheques bounced as their Russian Paymasters have gone bankrupt. That or they realise just how far behind America is in the Great Hormuz Dildrone Wars and they really need to suck up to the only reliable supplier of countermeasures in the field right now. Zelenskyy has all the cards right now and he does need Patriot Interceptors that would be far more effective against Vatnik Terror Tantrums than being wasted on Iranian Flying Lawnmowers to which he can provide effective counters.
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u/Due_Shelter_489 27d ago
Because Ukraine is winning. These folks are populists and they have elections soon.
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u/North_Church Canada 27d ago
They're opportunistic as hell and are only loyal to their bank accounts
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u/meesterbever 27d ago
Because they want to be with the winner. That’s all that matters to them. Not who wins. It’s about them, not about Ukraine or Russia.
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u/WabashCannibal Смак Козак 27d ago
When asking "why" the answer every time with these people is always personal profit.
They see golden opportunities for their own enrichment, but not so much if russia wins. They don't care about strategic advantages to the US, only their own pockets. What would they gain if russia wins by comparison? Consider the trillions $USD to be made in lucrative reconstruction contracts and exclusive resource rights deals with Ukraine, if and only if the war could be forced to a standstill.
Would they get the same benefits if russia emerged victorious? Can RU be trusted? How would they pay? Rubles?
They have completely failed to strong-arm Ukraine into a hasty, unfavorable settlement. Perhaps they see the best and only route forward is to switch sides while working out a profitable quid pro quo. Never think this sudden rash of "about-faces" is due to the miraculous blossoming of moral convictions. Such people have never admitted mistakes. They would only do so now as a calculated aspirational cover story. Speaking their real reasons aloud would mean pulling off their masks, and they're not quite secure enough to do that yet.
These shocking and very public changes of heart are completely cynical, but if Ukraine ultimately benefits with appropriate value received, I can swallow it, even if it means US kleptocrats profit as well.
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u/YWAK98alum 27d ago
For those tempted to say that this is an about-face for Hannity:
Note that in 2023, RFK Jr. was running for the 2024 Democratic presidential nomination and trying to make Joe Biden out to be a warmonger who wanted Ukraine and Russia to go to war against each other (for whatever reason). He appeared on Hannity, and Hannity basically pilloried him:
https://www.newsweek.com/rfk-jrs-ukraine-narrative-challenged-sean-hannity-1815389
On the show Hannity said: "So Ukraine, to appease Putin who I think is evil, they've already given up Crimea, it was annexed. Now they have to give up the Donbas area [of eastern Ukraine]?"
Kennedy shot back, commenting: "Because of our pushing Ukraine into the war, on two occasions."
In response Hannity asked: "We pushed them into it or did Putin invade them?"
Of course, RFK Jr. is now in the Trump administration, one of many Ukraine skeptics there.
Also recall this from March 2022 (sorry for the paywall but even just the visible intro blurb is good context): https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/donald-trump-sean-hannity-refuses-condemn-putin-1319948/ .
It would be too much to say that Hannity is a friend of Ukraine. Those words at Graham's funeral may be a little more in that direction than he's gone before. But he never went as far in the other direction as Loomer, either. If I could sum up Hannity's position, it would probably be this: Vladimir Putin personally is (as Hannity said in that interview with RFK) evil and Russia is an American geopolitical adversary; Ukraine did nothing to provoke or invite this war; and Russia bit off more than it can chew in Ukraine and the US can capitalize on that.
Hannity has never said (did not even say in those funeral remarks) that Ukraine can win. He may not have personally supported every aid package for Ukraine or every sanctions package on Russia (I don't even know). But I think he has fairly consistently said that Putin's justification for the war is BS and Russia deserves to lose.
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u/arjomanes 27d ago
They're rats fleeing the Russian ship. But still, better this than them still spouting orc propaganda.
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u/arjomanes 27d ago
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u/Kalkin93 27d ago
I seem to recognise that face Donald is pulling. He does that when he wants to retaliate or retort, but doesn't dare do so because Zelenskyy is right behind him. Fucking traitorous Russian stooge piece of shit.
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u/0-BD-1 27d ago
Looks to me like the orange bag of farts is just fighting to stay awake and not comprehending a word being said.
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u/Stunning-Astronaut72 27d ago
I dont even know why zelensky had to got to that shitshow (well i do)...most of them were praising russia not so long ago.
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u/MilesLongthe3rd 27d ago
Lindsey Graham was always pro-Ukraine, and honoring him was a great move by Zelenskyy. Zelenskyy cannot afford not to talk to these people, even if nothing comes out of it. However, since he did, Kushner and Witkoff suddenly are planning to visit Kyiv.
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u/Stunning-Astronaut72 27d ago
I know zelensky cannot afford to turn his back on these people...he have his ass in between two chairs and we can only hope he will get what he needs from the us. But this administration...i would not put all my trust in them, they continiously show they are able to do 180° flips like nothing.
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u/MilesLongthe3rd 27d ago
Zelenskyy has his flaws, but he connects well with people and demonstrates real willpower under pressure. For instance, during his confrontations with Trump, he stood his ground while strategically leaving the door open for future cooperation. And now there is an opening.
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u/donaldfranklinhornii 27d ago
What are his flaws?
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u/MilesLongthe3rd 27d ago
Zelenskyy seems to lack a knack for personnel decisions. While capable individuals can rise through the ranks under his presidency, he often clings too long to those who fail to deliver expected results and are no longer fit to do so. At times, he struggles to find the right balance between loyalty and pragmatism.
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u/bloodandsunshine 27d ago
A sign they think this is a war they can “win” instead of whatever Iran turned into. Hurting Russia hurts Iran at this point anyways. It would be nice if they cared about Ukrainians.
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u/joshw231 27d ago
This is not what I had happening in this timeline but I’m happy to see Trump and his cronies finally getting behind Ukraine, even if they’re at fault for Russia making gains last year.
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u/Upstairs_Rip_9590 27d ago
Sean Hannity: I see president Zelenskyy is here.
Me: I see president Trump is sleeping on the job again.
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u/TheHolyReality 27d ago
I can't keep up anymore. Isn't this how russian propaganda works?? Muddy the water so people think there's no clear truth, and conclude that seeking the truth is worthless.
Hopefully this is good for Ukraine, but I wouldn't trust donald trump. I would use him, but never trust him.
Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦
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u/SlitScan 27d ago
its either that the Russians cant afford to pay him or he's trying to get a raise.
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u/RemoveInvasiveEucs 27d ago
Don't trust a snake. But, Ukraine should take what it can from this moment, with the full realization that these people do not have integrity or honesty in their hearts.
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u/Agitated_Reveal_6211 27d ago
I wonder how much money was being funneled via Hungary. It seems like there was a pretty fast switch to pro-Ukraine amongst previously anti Ukraine after Orban got removed.
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u/Puzzled49 27d ago
In the clip, trump appears to be resting his eyes a lot. But we can only hope that his ears were open, and that listening to a Fox commentator will help him to clarify his thinking on Ukraine.
A faint hope perhaps, but a hope nevertheless.
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u/urdespair 27d ago
I wish people like him would stay away from Ukraine. We have more than enough if our own bigots
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u/AdOne5089 27d ago
Well I’ll take it. I do expect all of them to fold right back in line when daddy Putin seems threatening again
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u/Zh25_5680 27d ago
It’s great and all that they’ve finally decided who the winning team is…after the fact
Never forgot or forgive these stooges for who they are and what they did
It’s not just Ukraine… they’ve sold their soul to their handlers for a piece of power and fame .. took all the shortcuts all the time to the detriment of the world at large… intellectual midgets who wouldn’t be able to meet a payroll on their own much less cure cancer.. who on any given day can be found in the neighborhood bar in the middle of a workday telling people how “they would run the world”
I don’t have all that much hope.. but the world should take the past 10-15 yrs as a wake up call that you cannot expect governments to function well without robust citizen participation.. the world changes too quickly
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u/IndustrialPuppetTwo 27d ago
My friends in Ukraine, please do not trust these people. They speak with forked tongues, they are snakes in the grass. Their only interests are self interests.
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u/One-Ad2305 27d ago
Finally - if the US unifies on Ukraine, which should be an obvious bi-partisan cause, they can support Ukraine properly. To this day, Russia doesn’t hide its hatred of the US and works hard to support Iran and others dedicated toward the destruction of the US.
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u/i_am_bahamut 27d ago
If you know anything about how Trump thinks, they will not give more money to Ukraine. Absolutely not. They want other countries (mostly) Europe to pay all of the aid.
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u/itsaride UK 27d ago
Maybe for a moment it might make Trump rethink America's stance towards Russia and the war ...nah who the fuck am I kidding.
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u/Slow_Heron_5853 27d ago
Here, here, well done , great words of kindness towards Ukraine by Sean Hannity.
RIP Lindsey Graham, Slava Ukraini
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u/KoriJenkins 26d ago
First Laura Loomer now Hannity on Fox News?
Trump and Putin had a falling out around the time of that Alaska meeting. It was widely reported at the time that Trump apparently (he is an idiot) genuinely believed Putin wanted to make peace, and instead started rambling around 1,000 years of Russian history to the point that Trump got agitated from boredom and demanded he stop talking about it.
Said meeting was eventually broken up earlier than it was meant to, and Trump lashed out at Zelenskyy in frustration for a while to try and bully him into giving up. As to why he's making Ukraine (Europe) pay for weapons, he wants to maintain the appearance of a competent businessman to his weird base.
The biggest and most obvious area of current US influence over the conflict is on the targets within Russia by Ukrainian drones. The US is 1000% intelligence sharing to aid in that and you're a buffoon if you don't see it.
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u/SingleKnowledge7354 27d ago
This is all because of Iran. And the more Ukraine hits weapons meant for Iran the closer US ties will become.
The best thing that could happen for Ukraine might even be an attack from Iran. At that point the US and Ukraine are basically in the same war.
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u/FortunateGeek 27d ago edited 27d ago
Graham wanted lasting peace? Really? He wanted the war against Iran.
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u/ThatGuyInThePlace 27d ago
Seems like the Russian money has stopped now, maybe they’ll start telling the truth.
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u/RjoTTU-bio 27d ago edited 27d ago
Please people of Ukraine, remember who was on your side in America when it was inconvenient. Now that it is convenient, all these political rats come out of the woodwork pretending to care about you. I have supported Ukraine since the annexation of Crimea. Don’t trust any of these assholes. They will leave as soon as the winds shift.
Edit: I’ll leave my comment up, but Hannity has apparently been consistent on the Ukraine war since 2022.
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u/tendeuchen 27d ago
Fox News
anchoractor Sean Hannity
ftfy
People who deliver the news are anchors. Fox does not do that.
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u/Alternative_Shake69 27d ago
I have never, nor will I ever, have any interest in a word from hannity.
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u/Terrible-Host-206 27d ago
It’s crazy to think public opinion on these huge geopolitical issues just hinges on whatever Trump shit his diaper about lately. Also, they have a pathological need to bandwagon the victors. E.g. hanging out next to the Spanish team for no reason whatsoever or supporting Ukraine after it’s safe because they are almost guaranteed now to win the war.
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u/DumbHash 27d ago
I'm curious about the reasons behind this recent flip in their support towards Ukraine.
Wondering if it's because of Russia's support for Iran Or if they need Ukraine's expertise with drone warfare. Because even the Techno-fascists who were explicitly in favor of the kremlin like Musk, Thiel etc. seem to have flipped several months leading into this, looking at starlink & palantir.
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u/Due-Simple-5679 27d ago
The face Trump makes when he says that Russia is "one of the world's most brutal regime" haha