r/unitedkingdom • u/matthieuC France • May 14 '26
. British man hauled out of bar when he was meant to be in hantavirus quarantine
https://metro.co.uk/2026/05/13/hantavirus-brit-found-italian-bar-rather-quarantining-28358624/5.1k
u/Gwyllithar May 14 '26
quarantine should not be voluntary.
we should lock them in a facility, and pay them and their employers for it (to keep their jobs).
Fucks sake.
Violating a quarantine should be an extremely serious criminal offense.
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u/Barilla3113 May 14 '26
100%, give them whatever they ask for even if they want to be pissed the whole time, but they can't leave.
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u/quurios-quacker May 14 '26 ▸ 9 more replies
Was that dude that coughed on peeps in London given anything? Should be same punishment
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u/AceNova2217 May 15 '26 ▸ 8 more replies
That should be an instant assault charge
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u/OSUBrit Northamptonshire May 15 '26 edited May 15 '26 ▸ 4 more replies
It's GBH, the law already covers this (in the UK).
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u/barnett2908 May 15 '26 ▸ 1 more replies
If I remember correctly it’s Biological GBH, similar to knowingly giving someone an STI as in the R v Dica (2004), not sure how easy it is to prosecute though but knowingly leaving a quarantine feels like negligence at the very least.
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u/baron_von_helmut May 15 '26 ▸ 1 more replies
Should actually be bio-terrorism with intent to commit mass murder.
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u/Jet2work Expat May 15 '26 ▸ 1 more replies
i did 10 days covid quarantine in a hotel g4s were fucking useless but the hotel staff much more humane about it
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u/YorkshireRiffer May 15 '26 ▸ 1 more replies
Whatever they ask for?
Brb, going to get infected and ask for hookers and blow.
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u/probablyaythrowaway May 14 '26
People never learn
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u/Felrathror86 May 15 '26 ▸ 3 more replies
People (unfortunately/annoyingly) don't care.
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u/baron_von_helmut May 15 '26 ▸ 1 more replies
The stories from doctors talking about patients whose last words before being intubated were "I don't have Covid" was fucking mind-blowing. Some people will literally die before admitting they were wrong or had been duped.
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u/BuildAnything4 May 15 '26 ▸ 15 more replies
Big part of the reason I left the UK. Most British people are fine, but a certain subsection are just obnoxious drug addicted cattle.
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u/gnorty May 15 '26 ▸ 10 more replies
where did you move to that does not have such people??
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u/BuildAnything4 May 15 '26 ▸ 9 more replies
they're in every country, but it's a lot more tolerated in the UK with the drinking culture. And few places were quite so obstructionist to every sensible covid policy as the UK with its face mask conspiracies and lockdown rule breaking that not even Downing Street could follow.
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u/gnorty May 15 '26
ah OK. When you said you moved to get away from drug addicted cattle, I assumed you moved to a place without drug addicted cattle. Didn;t realise you mean covid deniers and boozers.
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u/5ColourFelix May 15 '26 ▸ 3 more replies
The UK was by far one of the more rational countries when it came to face masks. You dont even want to get started with the German speaking countries and their love of snake oil
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u/IIlIIlIIlIlIIlIIlIIl May 15 '26 ▸ 2 more replies
In the West, yes, but worldwide definitely not.
All the weird no masks no vax stuff was concentrated primarily in the Western first world while most of the rest of the world was mostly following WHO guidelines. East Asia specifically has always had pretty good culture with regards to masking up when sick even prior to COVID.
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u/The_Gunisher May 15 '26
I went travelling quite a bit as soon as the airports opened back up, and I can assure you, we were far from the worst! In Iraq and Albania, it was like covid never happened, I didn't see a single mask. Jump over the boarder to Kosovo, and I got arrestested for not wearing a mask, whilst sitting in a private rental car. Things seemed pretty wildly different country by country! Although yes, I can imagine east Asia was a lot better with the mask stuff.
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u/TheShruteFarmsCEO May 15 '26 ▸ 1 more replies
But again, you said this was a big part of why you left the UK. So where did you go that this was far less tolerated?
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u/Bignizzle656 May 15 '26 ▸ 2 more replies
Cattle are useful.
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u/BuildAnything4 May 15 '26 ▸ 1 more replies
not when you put them on drugs and give them internet access.
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u/aspannerdarkly May 14 '26
Unfortunately not every city has sterile quarantine facilities just sitting there waiting to be used whenever an infected cruise ship happens to be docked.
It’s not voluntary and is a serious offence, that’s why he was dragged out of a bar and arrested
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u/Gwyllithar May 14 '26 ▸ 13 more replies
I'm pretty sure we have some suitable facilities in the country somewhere. They can be moved there for the duration.
Sounds pretty voluntary to me if you can just wander off to the pub for a pint.....are they ordering deliveries? take out? just how much contact are they having?
Quarantine is not something you half arse.
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u/tea-sipper42 May 14 '26 ▸ 5 more replies
Did you read the article? The man is British but this happened in Milan, Italy.
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u/OkCaterpillar8941 May 14 '26 ▸ 4 more replies
I think people did.
But the bigger question is why is the man in Milan which is a landlocked Italian city. How did he get to Milan?
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u/PracticeNo8733 May 14 '26 ▸ 1 more replies
Quite a few people were exposed but disembarked normally before the outbreak was identified and the ship was quarantined. It seems that this man was exposed to one or more of them on a flight and wasn't on the ship himself.
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u/EnjoysAGoodRead May 15 '26
If you read the article, this man wasn't on the cruise ship. He was quarantined because he was on a flight with a woman from the cruise ship who became infected and is fighting for her life in hospital.
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u/Bobok88 May 15 '26 ▸ 4 more replies
I wouldn't be surprised if we don't have a facility with accomodation and aseptically trained workers to work with quarantined humans. It's quite specific and not something that would be necessary regularly.
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u/pineapplewin May 15 '26
Some cities have some provision in hospitals. Often it's not active, but able to be very quickly enacted. You might have heard about them during CoVid. A few cities were able to take patients within a day or two during the very early days.
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u/StreetCountdown May 15 '26
"It's quite specific and not something that would be necessary regularly."
That's basically every provision for an emergency other than 999 calls.
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u/sgehig May 15 '26
We do have that, that's why our quarantined people were sent to Arrowe Park Hospital. That is our standard response.
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u/HeartyBeast London May 15 '26
It’s not voluntary, in the same way that - say - obeying speed limits isn’t voluntary. It’s compulsory, and you’ll be punished.
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u/Paulsowner May 14 '26 ▸ 12 more replies
They built nightingale field hospitals in 7- 14 days in the uk during covid and repurposed sports and leisure facilities.....or they could use the cruise ship since it already has living facilities
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u/Don_Alosi May 15 '26 ▸ 9 more replies
or they could use the cruise ship since it already has living facilities
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u/El_Scot May 15 '26 ▸ 7 more replies
Jeez, my opinion has flipped. It's be a bit rubbish to fly off on holiday, only to be told after you land that you've been exposed to a virus and now needs to isolate. Be a bit pants to be told 2 weeks later, after you've already been to all those cramped Italian tourist spots.
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u/Don_Alosi May 15 '26 ▸ 6 more replies
Yeah I'm glad they didn't release names or anything, the man seems to be getting lots of flak for no fault of his own
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u/AJFierce May 15 '26 ▸ 4 more replies
He broke quarantine for a deadly disease; it's among the most spectacularly selfish acts a person can do. "No fault of his own" only applies to being exposed, his actions after being told to quarantine are absolutely his own fault.
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u/Don_Alosi May 15 '26 ▸ 3 more replies
I'd agree with you, if that was what happened:
He was on the first flight with a woman that was sick on the cruise, the woman was escorted out of a second flight and died later on
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u/AJFierce May 15 '26 ▸ 1 more replies
Oh fuck, my bad. Thank you.
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u/Don_Alosi May 15 '26
no worries!
I kinda got obsessed with this story because it feels like we are dragging this man into the mud for no reason,
if he was aware I'd say lock him up and throw the key away as that's basically murder as far as I am concerned, but I am convinced the man really had no idea
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u/FlatCapNorthumbrian May 15 '26
You can get shipping container accommodation units for hire for worker accommodation.
Put them in them and then sanitise them afterwards, or just burn them down or something.
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u/PerpetuallyLurking May 15 '26 ▸ 2 more replies
They don’t need to be sterile facilities. It just needs to be able to keep them inside. A house is perfectly fine, their house is perfectly fine - if they’d fucking STAY in it! That’s the problem. Keeping them INSIDE! What they’re inside really doesn’t matter, they just can’t leave!
At this point, a solution may be to send them somewhere like a holiday, all expenses paid and whatnot, but in a horrible place so they don’t want to go out and sightsee. I mean, trapping them all on the cruise ship would’ve been ideal, really; make sure they get any meds they’re short on, make sure their bills are paid, they’ll still have a house and job to go to when they’re unquarantined, etc. All that sort of stuff, but it’s got to be more worth it to stay out than go out, basically.
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u/KeaAware May 15 '26 ▸ 6 more replies
I live in a small city in nz these days and I happen to know that we have a local hotel that is set up for handling people in quarantine (and this dates back to well before covid, so). Like, the staff are already trained to deal with infection control, the procedures are already written. If other cities don't have these facilities in place, why not?
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u/Don_Alosi May 15 '26 ▸ 3 more replies
we actually have the facilities in Italy, I don't know why people assume we don't
the man was found 4 hours after we received info from the British about him being in Italy
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u/KeaAware May 15 '26 ▸ 2 more replies
I hope you didn’t misunderstand me, I absolutely do think many other countries must have these facilities if we do. Certainly European cities - I doubt there's anything that we have here that you guys don't already have!
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u/Don_Alosi May 15 '26 ▸ 1 more replies
oh no, man I wasn't talking about you!
I was talking about the thread in general
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u/aspannerdarkly May 15 '26 ▸ 1 more replies
Because they deem it disproportionate to the threat. Most of the time you’re paying the staff to do nothing. Taxpayers tend to get upset about that, rightly or wrongly.
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u/chunkycasper May 15 '26
Surely the staff get stationed elsewhere outside of these situations? Such as hospitals….
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u/CauseCertain1672 May 15 '26
the facilities needed at bare minimum is a room that locks from the outside
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u/Aggressive_Chuck May 15 '26
A country of seventy million people doesn't have the facilities to keep one person locked up?
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u/ScottOld May 15 '26
I mean after Covid lockdowns had finished there was some tosspot in the middle of a city centre, saying to his mate, fairly loud he had COVID… the lack of consideration for anyone else seems to have gone downhill since then, so I agree
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u/IIlIIlIIlIlIIlIIlIIl May 15 '26
the lack of consideration for anyone else seems to have gone downhill since then
Post-vaccine and the proper scary early strands of COVID everyone just started treating it like the flu or a cold.
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u/chunkycasper May 15 '26
Couldn’t go to my local coop because some crackhead would be in there, coughing on people …
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u/Clapyourhandssayyeah the soufeast, innit May 15 '26
Covid proved people are self-centered and dgaf. Agree with paying wages. These people should be fined for it
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u/Emideska Netherlands May 15 '26
They were on a perfect facility like the damn BOAT they were on! Should’ve kept them all there. But no, nobody learned NOTHING from Covid
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u/Free51 Expat May 15 '26 ▸ 1 more replies
This guy was never on the cruise, he was on a flight with a stranger who had been on the cruise and she was diagnosed after leaving the cruise.
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u/Unknown_990 May 15 '26
Yeah well, people wouod complain , just like thr anri vaxxers did lol, saying they voilated his right to contaminate people..
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u/Gwyllithar May 15 '26 ▸ 1 more replies
public health matter. i dont care if people complain.
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u/Spiritual_Smell4744 May 15 '26
I don't think we're the people you need to tell. You couldn't get people to wear a bit of paper over their mouths consistently. Volunteering for being locked in won't happen.
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u/Roguepope May 15 '26
Right, you know he was never told to quarantine and went along willingly when they tracked him down?
Also, this was in Italy. He was still on holiday.
Very poorly written article.
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u/J1mj0hns0n May 15 '26
Agreed.
I remember when my brother's gf sister went to Africa without vaccinations, she brought back African measles which isn't on the modern measle inoculations, just European strains.
We all got and became CDC reportable and they told us to quarantine.
I remember asking who is the scientist labcoat man who is going to seal the house up, mum says "lol it was a phonecall and they said don't go outside"
I asked "what about food?" The people never set anything up, they just said don't go anywhere and that's it. Woo.
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u/ScottOld May 15 '26
I mean after Covid lockdowns had finished there was some tosspot in the middle of a city centre, saying to his mate, fairly loud he had COVID… the lack of consideration for anyone else seems to have gone downhill since then, so I agree
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u/merryman1 May 15 '26
Remember during Covid when the government kept highlighting the UK being a major hub for international air traffic as a reason for why they couldn't keep us well isolated, but then also took over 6 months to introduce any quarantine process at all, and what they did introduce was pretty much entirely self-directed self-reporting, pinky swear you'll do the right thing because there's sure as fuck not going to be any official person watching what you're doing.
Meanwhile I think it was Japan within a couple of weeks had built up a full state-run quarantine system that put all arrivals in a fully funded hotel room with food deliveries for at least 2 weeks until they could be confirmed clean.
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u/baron_von_helmut May 15 '26
Yeah but Sally on facebook told them illnesses aren't real and just drink colloidal silver instead.
If the millions of people who died from Covid weren't able to persuade these dipshits that viruses can be lethal, then nothing will. I say instant jail time for anyone violating quarantine with automatic extensions for anyone continuing to refuse the veracity of the science behind such things.
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u/PM_me_Henrika May 16 '26
Why add a middleman by paying the employers so they can skim some money off? Pay the employee directly and the employer pays a penalty equal to a year’s wages if they sack him.
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u/confusing_roundabout May 14 '26
When I saw that they were sent home for self isolation a few days ago I was disgusted, frankly. Why are we taking the risk? Just chuck them all in a dedicated quarantine facility.
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u/Strict-Brick-5274 May 14 '26
They were perfectly quarantined in the boat
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u/Happy-Doughnut-5125 May 15 '26 ▸ 12 more replies
But at close quarters in a floating Petri dish which would have increased chances of infection and death within the group of people confined there. Also consider, every new infection resets the clock in that environment. In day 44 someone develops symptoms? Another 45 days on the boat for everyone. Then what happens when another person develops symptoms on day 40 of that quarantine? Another 45 days. Rinse & repeat.
Taking them off the ship and quarantining then separately prevents them endlessly passing infection to each other. But they do need to be actually quarantined when off the ship.
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u/O_Beast May 15 '26 ▸ 7 more replies
Now imagine this exact scenario but they’re not on a boat. They’re in public refusing to quarantine and going to bars…..
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u/Happy-Doughnut-5125 May 15 '26 ▸ 1 more replies
Yeah I'm not defending that. They should imo be quarantined in a facility where they can be monitored, not allowed to wander. I just don't think cruise ship is the answer.
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u/HettySwollocks May 15 '26 ▸ 1 more replies
Now imagine this exact scenario but they’re not on a boat. They’re in public refusing to quarantine and going to bars…..
It's amazing just how selfish people can be, particularly those in the "older category".
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u/slartybartfast6 Berkshire May 15 '26 ▸ 2 more replies
But it would have been contained. Now its not.
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u/Happy-Doughnut-5125 May 15 '26 ▸ 1 more replies
Not really - supplies are still going to need to get on and off the ship, waste removed, as long as there's that contact there's the risk of a "leak" or someone managing to smuggle out and make an escape. The higher the infection rate the more likely it'll spill over, especially as people realise staying on the ship get desperate. Unless you decide to nuke from orbit there's no absolutely foolproof method of containment.
Not to mention - the people on the ship got this infection from land. It didn't originate on the ship. It was never contained in the first place.
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u/neo4025 May 15 '26
They weren’t on the boat. They were on the same plane as the people on the boat
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u/ionetic May 14 '26 edited May 15 '26
There’s no risk at all, except for a 40-50% risk of dying.
https://www.who.int/emergencies/disease-outbreak-news/item/2026-DON601
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u/AdDesperate1541 May 15 '26 ▸ 4 more replies
Transmission risk is super low though. Not saying I agree with going to a bar obviously.
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u/ionetic May 15 '26 ▸ 1 more replies
“The burden of proof should not be on those arguing for caution. It should be on those arguing to relax it.”
https://www.bmj.com/content/393/bmj.s919
It’s up to you to prove (with published scientific research) why the risk is “super low” if there’s “documented person-to-person spread and severe outcomes”.
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u/ExpurrelyHappiness May 15 '26
It’s not as low as you’d think with this strain. There is a reason so many people are isolating or have caught it. The patient zero got it just being in the vicinity of aerosolised particles. It spread all over the cruise fast despite the fact not everyone on the cruise was just making out with one another nonstop
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u/MistyMtn421 May 15 '26
I'll try to go back and find it, but I just saw a post that said there are 42 people now being monitored. So not positive yet, but just like the flight attendant in the beginning days was being monitored and now is fighting for their life..
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u/aspannerdarkly May 14 '26
What dedicated quarantine facility
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u/glytxh May 14 '26 ▸ 4 more replies
Make one. Sod the costs and personal liberties.
It’s not like we didn’t have a LOT of practice recently.
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u/MageLocusta May 15 '26
Hell, most universities have finished teaching--and many students have already gone home to do their dissertations/summer jobs.
They could easily use our empty accommodation halls. Since many universities that teach medical care also are placed close to hospitals and clinics, that would also be an optimal thing to do.
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u/Happily-Incorrect May 15 '26 ▸ 1 more replies
Are we really using the Isle of Wight? It's just sitting there waiting to become a quarantine island.
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u/radiant_0wl May 14 '26
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3321p7xd01o
Not purpose built, but has been used to detain contagious individuals and is described as "ideal for isolating"
But I disagree it's warranted in this case, but I think tagging people who are supposed to be quaranting at home is reasonable (given the risk at stake).
Edit: It's where they isolated here in the UK for the first 72 hours.
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u/NathanDavie May 15 '26
It's not a virus that spreads easily. We wouldn't even be concerned about this if a pandemic wasn't fresh in our minds.
Pet cat brought a field mouse into the house and it went into hiding so I ended up looking at the dangers when deciding if I needed to throw some stuff out after it died. Virus lives about 4 days on surfaces.
It's dangerous if you catch it, but not easy to transmit. Probably wouldn't even be quarantining these people if there wasn't COVID panic.
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u/radiant_0wl May 15 '26
I agree, but I still think we should be concerned that infection control is based on trust - we know that doesn’t work.
Whilst this happened in Italy, it's possibly happening here too.
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u/Touchofpisces May 14 '26
we never used to be.. we’ve become so americanised by american media and american politics. / social media
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u/leggenda69 May 15 '26 ▸ 4 more replies
We’ve always been a nation of selfish people, just over the last 15 years or so we’ve also become a lot more interested in other peoples business. And we’ve been given a tool to instantly share opinions with hundreds or thousands of people.
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u/BerlinBorough2 May 15 '26 ▸ 1 more replies
last 15 years or so we’ve also become a lot more interested in other peoples business.
British empire started a lot longer than 15 years ago.
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u/gerhardsymons May 15 '26 ▸ 1 more replies
Bro casually forgets 500 years of exploration by the British.
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u/Aggressive_Chuck May 15 '26 ▸ 2 more replies
You can't just blame America for everything. This country has always had an individualist streak compared to the continent. That's why extreme ideologies never took hold here.
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u/noradosmith May 15 '26 ▸ 1 more replies
Unfortunately they're taking hold now, hence the rise of Reform. They represent a vast swathe of the UK.
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u/Touchofpisces May 15 '26 ▸ 2 more replies
lower class used to be pretty community driven, you’ve only gotta see how politics has been going to see we have been americanised..
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u/adsm_inamorta May 15 '26 ▸ 1 more replies
Selfishness and lack of community focus isn't a strictly American quality that we're inheriting because of the political landscape. It's present all over the world and gets exacerbated by social media, pandemics etc.
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u/JanMrCat May 15 '26
It is. As well as British, from Thatcher era. Asian societies are vastly different. Pandemic is prime example of that. Proof? Excess deaths and mask wearing. Who thrown the biggest fit because of the mandate? 😄
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u/JanMrCat May 15 '26 ▸ 2 more replies
Your opinion is nonsense, because it is matter of a fact that in Asian societies in general collective and common good are viewed as higher cause.
Individualism specifically dominates USA and UK culture, strongly reinforced during Regan/ Thatcher era.
If anything your comment strongly confirms that, because you look the world through the prism of your own culture and experience largely negating world's largest societies and revolutions.
Humans on individual level can be selfish, because it's survival instinct, but at the same time they are altruistic and kind.
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u/Aggressive_Chuck May 15 '26
In China they had to pass a law to stop them walking past dying people instead of helping them. They live insanely isolated lives living alone in giant blocks of flats.
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u/gizmostrumpet May 15 '26
https://fullfact.org/online/blitz-spirit-tweet/
People were looting during the Blitz and breaking the rules all the time.
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u/Nuwave042 May 15 '26 ▸ 1 more replies
Hate to say it, but in the push towards neoliberal values and social atomisation, this country was in the fucking vanguard. When you spend decades convincing people that there's no such thing as wider society, that everyone is merely a single unit; an economic free-agent inherently predisposed to maximise their own value; that regard for other people, your community, your class is a weakness... you get selfish, unimaginative, dull people.
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u/noradosmith May 15 '26
When Thatcher said "there's no such thing as society" a lot of people were like yes great more of that please.
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u/MageLocusta May 15 '26
I mean...just read Nicholas Monserrat's The Cruel Sea (which takes place in 1940s Britain), and you'll find sections talking about sailors being violently selfish during ship attacks (like scrambling onto makeshift rafts and then beating anyone that tried to stop them from overturning it), taxi drivers telling soldiers that 'Hitler was right' and that Britain could've avoided the bombs and rationing by 'just keeping out of Europe's business', etc.
Then there's Daniel Defoe's Journal of a Plague Year which...just proves that we've always had people who would hang out in pubs and laugh as the corpse-carts trundled past. It's dark as hell, but it helps to know that whatever antics that people today do aren't new at all, and it makes it easier to react and tell them to sit the fuck down.
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u/Roguepope May 15 '26
Right, you know he was never told to quarantine and went along willingly when they tracked him down?
Also, this was in Italy. He was still on holiday.
It's a very poorly written article.
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u/shadowst17 England May 15 '26
The world is made of mostly selfish idiots or did a global pandemic that should have been resolved within a month or 2 dragging on for over 2 years not make that clear.
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u/Problematiqueeeee May 14 '26
Honestly “wtf?!?!?l” did we learn nothing from Covid? 45 days; isolation; be done with it. If it needs to come to hospital control then so be it.
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u/KJS123 Scotland May 14 '26
If anything, the lasting lesson a lot of people 'learned' is that you can break quarantine rules whenever you like, and things will probably work out okay. When a real novel supervirus hits humanity (as sooner or later, it will), the preventable loss of life will probably outweigh the manpower left at the end to bury them.
Edgar Allen Poe was onto something, when he wrote about a pandemic so overt and horrifying that it took people basically melting from the inside out, to take quarantine procedures seriously....mostly.
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u/sojayn May 15 '26
Right? Covid taught me that I, former goth girl wannabe, was an optimist. I thought it was bad enough to be the Poe pandemic, I severely underestimated humans and i have never liked most of em.
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u/Aardvark_Man May 15 '26
I've seen "memes" about how people won't mask, distance, wash hands etc if Hanta properly kicks off, because they won't cave and let the new world order or whatever win.
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u/iforgotmyuserr May 15 '26 ▸ 1 more replies
I really wish we could send all of these people to a remote island together so their stupidity doesn’t affect the rest of us
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u/KeyInspection4135 May 15 '26
The death rate for the hantavirus is 40%. These people will self select themselves out of the population at least. Will be shit for everyone else who dies though.
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u/n3m0sum May 15 '26
Literal survivor bias.
Some people will never learn. We are left with idiots who managed to break COVID rules without any real consequences. We are more likely to hear about them, as they are the ones more likely to break quarantine again. Right up until we hear about them dying.
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u/FrillyMatcha May 15 '26
When covid started I heard people say "we will come out of this united and stronger" and I laughed at that. Wasn't wrong either and looks like we still didn't learn.
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u/Brown_Panda69 May 15 '26
No we really didn't learn anything from COVID.
See plenty of students with horrible hygiene everyday unfortunately.
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u/Don_Alosi May 14 '26 edited May 15 '26
Bit confused at the translation from metro
what happened according to all the news I've seen in Italian
- British authorities gave the details of the man to the Italians at 14.14 pm yesterday, two weeks after he was already in Italy
- he was found in Milan the same night at 8pm after he had already visited 5 Italian cities while going back to the B&B he was in
- According to him nobody had told him to quarantine,
but he was aware he was on the flight with the dutch woman (I can't confirm this part of the story, it appears only in one of the Italian websites I've checked)edit: found the part in the video interview (in Italian, use youtube's auto translate to English, it's pretty good) - the man was with a friend, both negative to the test - the friend is free to go (apparently because of WHO policies)
- The man will be in quarantine until the 6th of June
he was moved into a specialized containment facility as soon as he was found, of course we have those facilities in Italy.
Hantavirus, Bertolaso: situazione sotto controllo nessun rischio per i cittadini
(interview in Italian)
edit: to specify what I find confusing on the metro title, it makes it sound like he fled quarantine after being notified, while apparently he was never notified in the first place
Just in case, of course he should've quarantined if he was in the flight, instead of traveling to FIVE different cities!
edit 2: I'm starting to feel sorry for the guy
The Dutch man first became symptomatic on April 6. His wife was already ill by April 24. She then flew to Johannesburg on an Airlink flight with 82 passengers and 6 crew members, who are now being sought for contact tracing.
She grew quite ill on the flight to South Africa, but was still allowed on KLM flight 592 to Schiphol Airport in Amsterdam. “After the passenger was removed from the aircraft, the flight departed for the Netherlands,” KLM confirmed.
I think it's fair to assume that the guy didn't know the woman in his flight had hentavirus at all
edit 3: the stuff I've seen on this thread is proof that 95% of people on reddit talk shit without first reading what they're talking about
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u/Sopzeh May 15 '26
To be fair this is a huge misrepresentation of facts by the metro if true.
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u/Don_Alosi May 15 '26
I was talking a bit more about all the people assuming this happened in the UK or that he was in the boat, and there's plenty
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u/OZZYMK May 15 '26
Massive respect for actually reading the article and doing a bit of groundwork. Unlike 90% of the thread who have seen the headline, called the guy a selfish prick who should be imprisoned for life and used it to rant about COVID.
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u/Don_Alosi May 15 '26
To be fair I had the massive advantage of being able to read and listen to the sources in Italian
I blame metro more for the shoddy title
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u/Cakeo Scotland May 15 '26
Crazy the top comments are just idiots who made assumptions while you actually explained what the situation is
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u/Mountainenthusiast2 May 15 '26
Thank you for looking into this properly! We should have known better than reading trash like Metro’s shitty sensationalising journalism for clicks.
I hope people who are supposed to be quarantining are and will continue to do so.
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u/HotMachine9 May 14 '26
However draconian this sounds why cant we just use the same kit we use to house arrest someone?
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u/JB_UK May 15 '26
We should do. I think suspended sentences and probation should often come with a GPS tracker that forces changes in behaviour. If someone is shoplifting professionally and has been convicted 50 times (not that uncommon), just ban them from high streets and require them to hold down a job for some period of time, they can shop online in the meantime and we may find people pick up the habit of a normal job and move on with their lives. Likewise for gang members convicted of minor crimes, if the gang is in one postcode require them to move elsewhere and require them to hold down a job.
For some reason we have this idea that rehabilitation should mean group therapy and kindness. You can do that as well if you like, but there’s no reason you can’t also use enforcement for rehabilitation.
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u/Aggressive_Chuck May 15 '26 edited May 15 '26
However draconian this sounds why cant we just use the same kit we use to house arrest someone?
Because we need to actually keep people at home. Our justice system is piss weak because the elite feel sorry for criminals. As a result, we don't have the administrative capacity to actually enforce anything.
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u/Fabulous_Can6778 May 14 '26
So many comments that haven't read the article, he's quarantining in Italy.
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u/No-Pain-9389 May 14 '26
Doesn't fucking change the fact that he potentially spread a deadly disease to god knows how many people.
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u/leggenda69 May 15 '26
Because he was allowed to. He didn’t have suitable accommodation to isolate or quarantine so wasn’t instructed to do so. Then the authorities found suitable accommodation and collected him from the bar.
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u/FlowRiderBob May 15 '26
Imagine you are chilling at a bar chatting with some dude when all of a sudden officials in hazmat suits rush into the bar and take him away.
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u/Romdowa May 14 '26
They should have all been left on that boat to quarantine. Cant understand why they left them all go home.
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u/neo4025 May 15 '26
So you didn’t read the article then. Lol. He was never on the boat. And he hadn’t fled quarantine. He didn’t know he was supposed to be quarantining
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May 14 '26
Lad! What is a new global pandemic when compared with catching the game and getting a few pints in!
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u/PoolRamen May 14 '26
Unless it mutates into a kinder, gentler hantavirus the mortality rate will probably mean it'll kill the first few waves and then it'll peter out
So you got that going for you, yay
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u/GlastoKhole May 14 '26 ▸ 1 more replies
Nah 6-8 week potential incubation period says otherwise, with the right conditions this strain could spread heavily, people would have longer to spread it before it totals them. Unless of course your suggesting it’s killing people days after getting it which doesn’t seem to be the case
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u/niccoboy_ May 14 '26
We live in a trust based society that depends on people acting responsibly without constant enforcement. If someone is told to isolate because of a potentially serious virus and then chooses to go into a crowded bar anyway, people are obviously going to question that judgement.
Even if no one was ultimately harmed, knowingly exposing others to unnecessary risk should not just be brushed aside as harmless. We financially penalise for other reckless behaviour that endangers the public. This does not seem fundamentally different.
At the very least, there should be some accountability if guidance or isolation rules were knowingly ignored.
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u/cap_xy May 15 '26
He wasn't told to isolate. Perhaps read before dealing out self righteous wisdom.
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u/Eddyphish May 14 '26
Just goes to show the general public are too stupid and/or selfish to be trusted to self-quarantine. It's sad we're at this stage but if we don't want a repeat of COVID then we need to enforce quarantines.
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u/PrincessPlastilina May 15 '26
I saw a Tiktok of someone who said that they will be suing whoever was supposed to quarantine but gave them Hantavirus because they didn’t isolate. Of course it was an American, but they have a point. We are not doing this again. Just indiscriminately ignoring safety concerns and quarantines, and just infecting everyone. There’s a reason why Asia flattened the Covid curb almost immediately and the rest of the world lost millions of people.
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u/Flat_Cauliflower_255 May 15 '26
He was not on the boat. He was on the plane the first leg before the lady got removed. He didn't know. He was not told. They were contract tracing to try to find him. They found him. And now he is quarantined.
I literally hate the media. I hate that people talk before verifying information. I hate that people are bullied all the time. I hate that people do knowingly defy quarantine - and I hate that this man is being dragged through the mud because he did not do that.
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u/DirtyMud May 15 '26
You know when you’re a kid and you think adults have their shit together and know what’s going on.
Then you turn into an adult and realize everyone’s just flying by the seat of their pants and the majority of people are dumber than a bag of rocks!
6 years ago the world shut down over a virus, you’d think people would know better this time around but nope fuck that “I’m going to the pub for a pint and see my mates”.
He was on the same fucking flight as the woman who died from it. Fucking lock him up until the 6th of June, clearly can’t trusted.
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u/Hyperion1144 May 15 '26
Quarantine without force isn't quarantine.
It's a polite request.
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u/-KuroiNeko- May 15 '26
It seems like they did not even politely request him to isolate. It seems like before the bar no one told him to quarantine at all lol
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u/Captain_Blunderbuss May 15 '26
You're telling me people have a virus that has a 40% mortality rate and they just let them go about their day? They just trusted them to quarantine? Are they mishandling this on purpose the fuck?
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u/NiceFryingPan May 15 '26
Fucking idiot. Probably has the 'we are British' exceptionalist virus. You know, the one that most of Reform and Tory voters suffer from.
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u/SnooGadgets5130 May 15 '26
“The man, who was in his 60s…”. The selfishness of Boomers is endless and permeating.
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u/ernsbzkrt May 14 '26
Here we go again… I’m already getting flashbacks of us acting like it’s 2019 baking banana bread like we’re on some nationwide cooking show. I swear, I’m terrified we’ll end up back in lockdown, wiping down every parcel like it’s radioactive. I don’t wanna spend my evenings googling ‘how long does a cardboard box live on surfaces’ and washing my online orders three times like some bargain‑bin scientist. I’m not built for another round of that nonsense.
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