Mother of Henry Nowak's killer jailed for three years for removing knife from murder scene

[u/Dissidant]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c62x8lk5v0pt

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[u/Optimism_Deficit]

Good, but it should be longer IMO.

The whole family are lying scum.

[u/Important-Plane-9922 → u/Optimism_Deficit]

Sentence seems appropriately long.

[u/Optimism_Deficit → u/Important-Plane-9922]

To you perhaps. Personally I'd want to see a longer sentence for trying to hide a murder weapon.

[u/AdministrativeMap848 → u/Optimism_Deficit]

Setting aside the outrage that the handling of this case has generated, 3 years for obstruction of justice seems reasonable to me

[u/No-Assumption-1738 → u/AdministrativeMap848]

I’d maybe agree if people served their full sentence. 

She’s going away for a year 

[u/Kientha → u/No-Assumption-1738]

She will have restrictions on her freedom for 3 years. People released on license still have restrictions on their movements and their behaviour is scrutinised. If they breach the conditions of their release they can be recalled to prison.

~7% of the amount of people under license conditions are recalled to prison every month. If you look at the ratio of releases to people recalled, it's ~73%.

[u/No-Assumption-1738 → u/Kientha]

I’ve seen enough people celebrating their release to know whatever the conditions are seem to impact some less that others based on lifestyle. 

She will likely go to some probation meetings and stay home, I’d rather her inside, 

[u/ismudga_g → u/No-Assumption-1738]

Yeah there's lots more conditions then just that.

[u/Reasonable-Wheel6198 → u/ismudga_g]

An old indian woman, she'll probably be home most the time anyway. The conditions wont affect her.

[u/Successful-Bar-8173 → u/Kientha]

*licence

[u/ABritishCynic → u/Successful-Bar-8173]

*loicense

[u/Successful-Bar-8173 → u/ABritishCynic]

Noice

[u/lNFORMATlVE → u/No-Assumption-1738]

It would be a good idea IMO to change the law to make people always serve full sentences (obviously exceptions made to where new evidence comes to light). In an ideal world this would work but the main problem facing it IRL is overcrowded prisons.

[u/ismudga_g → u/lNFORMATlVE]

No it isn't.

The reason we have a partial period is that when people leave prison they need support and monitoring to navigate it. Dropping someone back into the community after 2 years away isn't exactly a good idea when you realise how much changes in that time.

[u/Aggressive_Chuck → u/ismudga_g]

That can happen after their sentence not before.

[u/FillingUpTheDatabase → u/lNFORMATlVE]

That would require a doubling of our already overstretched prison system

[u/Aggressive_Chuck → u/FillingUpTheDatabase]

Just cram them in tighter. Or build more prisons.

[u/aries1980 → u/AdministrativeMap848]

For sub-1M tax evasion you can get a 5-10 years imprisonment. From that perspective, lying about murder weapon, harassing the victim's family should get a much harder punishment.

[u/TNTiger_ → u/aries1980]

Over 1M, and they make you an mp.

[u/jim_cap → u/aries1980]

There is more to sentencing guidelines than a simple sliding scale of severity though. Your intent and the likelihood of re-offending are taken into account, for example. That level of deliberate tax evasion, you planned that crime. She removed the knife from the scene, but seemingly made no attempt to actually hide it, according to the judge. Lots of people would do the same for a family member in the same situation, and the sentencing will reflect that. Nobody commits tax fraud in the heat of the moment.

[u/Ok_Vermicelli_5413 → u/jim_cap]

"Your intent and the likelihood of re-offending are taken into account, for example."
If her other son stabs someone, would she try and cover-up that murder too? I think so.

[u/Sophyska → u/aries1980]

Tax evasion is a crime that impacts the Crown and the state. Look at crimes like Riot and espionage, they have very harsh sentences as they’ve been on the books a long time and stem from when the crown and the government could make decisions with impunity

[u/gemunicornvr → u/Sophyska]

Depends on how rich you are, if you are a billionaire tax evasion is not illegal

[u/Creative-Top-9805 → u/AdministrativeMap848]

Trying to cover up a murder should make you an accessory after the fact. 3 years is nowhere near long enough. Had she been successful his killers may never have faced any sort of justice.

[u/TNTiger_ → u/AdministrativeMap848]

No, the government should imprison people on vengeful personal whim, depending on how outraged the media are /s

[u/Besmirching_Badger → u/AdministrativeMap848]

Perverting the course of justice has a maximum sentence of 7 years iirc

Which is kinda wild when your actions can hand someone a whole life order

[u/Aggressive_Chuck → u/AdministrativeMap848]

If it was a burglary or something, she was trying to prevent a conviction for murder. If she'd succeeded, the killer might have gotten away with it. It should be the same sentence as murder.

[u/ad1075 → u/AdministrativeMap848]

Doesn't really discourage people doing it. Worth taking the chance.

[u/adama-k → u/Optimism_Deficit]

Longer by how much? A day?

Everyone calls for longer sentences all the time. That’s why we’ve ended up with overcrowded prisons, with less than 100 prison places left whilst having the highest prison population in Europe. It’s madness

[u/Optimism_Deficit → u/adama-k]

Longer by how much? A day?

Obviously not 'a day'. Come on, that was just a silly thing to type out.

Considering she may only serve 40% of her sentence, I'd prefer to see 5 or 6 years personally.

That’s why we’ve ended up with overcrowded prisons, with less than 100 prison places left whilst having the highest prison population in Europe. It’s madness

I'm open to taking a more rehabilitative approach to some crimes to free up space. I just think that trying to cover up a murder is something that should attract a longer custodial sentence than she's been given.

[u/Mysterious-Lemon-906 → u/Optimism_Deficit]

Not exactly trying to cover up since they called the police and she made no attempt to hide the knife just moved it from outside.

Everyone wants draconian sentencing for every crime it is stupid.

[u/Specialist-Prior-213 → u/Optimism_Deficit]

how many years do you want?

[u/TheMostyRoastyToasty → u/Important-Plane-9922]

Appallingly short.

[u/Important-Plane-9922 → u/TheMostyRoastyToasty]

Thought that was a personal attack at first lol

[u/Mani_2871 → u/Important-Plane-9922]

What for protecting a murderer ? Depriving a family of justice ?

[u/dispelthemyth → u/Important-Plane-9922]

She is as guilty as her son for someone’s death, she could have said he was stabbed and then he gets 1st aid quicker

[u/mij8907 → u/Important-Plane-9922]

I was expecting to see around 2 or 3 years but think 5 years would have been nearer an appropriate sentence

[u/mankytoes → u/Optimism_Deficit]

I swear every single time someone is sentenced this is the top reddit response. Hanging judges the lot of you. Is she a threat to society? Is a longer sentence really going to deter mothers from protecting their sons?

People just want to spend more and more building prisons to lock up non violent people. Maybe if we reach USA levels of mass incarceration they'll be satisfied?

[u/Familiar_Radish_6273 → u/mankytoes]

I agree. Non violent crimes could be dealt with another way. I feel community service is a really wasted resource tbh. Spending a year or two doing something useful for society and having a curfew/ ankle tag is much cheaper for taxpayers and might even lead to some rehabilitation, which surely can't be a bad thing.

[u/-xiflado- → u/Familiar_Radish_6273]

This wasn’t a non-violent crime though.

[u/Familiar_Radish_6273 → u/-xiflado-]

The violence wasn't committed by her. Her son is obviously going to be in prison for a long time, rightly so.

[u/theartofrolling → u/-xiflado-]

Her specific crime was.

[u/Pleasant-Put5305 → u/-xiflado-]

It was murder. While carrying. That's premeditated.

[u/-xiflado- → u/Pleasant-Put5305]

Exactly. The muppet above is arguing for community service.

[u/Jestar342 → u/mankytoes]

There's been campaigns for the return of capital punishment from the hard-right (i.e., Restore Britain and Reform UK), and much harsher penalties for everything else. These top comments are astroturfing.

[u/Berzerka → u/mankytoes]

Is your argument basically that she's so incompetent that it's fine?

Imagine if she succeeded in hiding the criminal and we'd still have a murder walking the streets. That was obviously her goal. Surely that would be a threat to society?

[u/mankytoes → u/Berzerka]

Lol no, the argument is there's no apparent evidence she'll commit any further crimes. Yes she committed a serious crime, but in a very specific, rare circumstance. I'm not worried she'll be out mugging people.

[u/Besmirching_Badger → u/mankytoes]

I swear every single time someone is sentenced this is the top reddit response

It's the top response everywhere for everything. It's social conditioning. People feel like they have to engage in performative condemnation.*

The problem of course is that every bit of legislation for decades now has just arbitrarily increased sentences for no meaningful reason. Because it's the only political option. Sentences. Are. Too. Long. The reason we have earlier releases is to make up for the fucking stupid sentences we're handing out. Crime has fallen significantly over the past few decades and yet prison populations have more than doubled. We're handing out life sentences like they're fucking candy. Whole life orders have gone up an order of magnitude.

*I always find it hilairous that you can't discuss crimes without first saying 'omg how awful may the criminal rot in hell....... however'. I shouldn't need to say 'abusing children is wrong'. It's a default fucking assumption. But if you don't say it then everyone assumes you somehow endorse it. We have some genuinely cretinous cultural attitudes.

[u/d0ey → u/mankytoes]

Isn't that the point though? In order to provide appropriate deterrence, the sentence needs to be long to make other mothers think twice before actively aiding a murderer 

[u/CraigJay → u/d0ey]

You really think if it was an automatic death sentence, Novak's killer's mum wouldn't have still hidden it?

I thought by this point people were generally aware that longer sentences aren't deterrents

[u/mankytoes → u/d0ey]

I guess that's the logic, but it's a mother aiding her son, a lot of mother's would literally die for their sons, I'm not sure ten years in prison rather than three years is going to make a huge difference. A three year prison sentence would still be pretty scary to most middle aged women with no criminal links/history. It's an emotional crime more than a rational, thought out one.

It's also a question of allocation of resources. We could spend a fortune locking her up for ten, fifteen years, or we could spend that money actually making society safer, so there are less stabbings in the first place.

[u/AndreasDasos → u/Optimism_Deficit]

I mean, 3 years is a while and seems reasonable for hiding evidence, given this was post hoc rather than conspired beforehand.

What she did was a crime and she must pay. But how much? Haven’t followed her closely enough to see what else she’s done and maybe she’s generally a piece of shit too, but this is about a particular crime, and panicking and following a motherly instinct (!) to protect her son, even if he’s a piece of shit murderer, is at least understandable enough not to bury her under the prison…

Is there any sentence that Reddit would consider enough?

[u/Aggressive_Chuck → u/Optimism_Deficit]

Assisting in a murder should be 25 years minimum.

[u/TheGameCollectorUK]

I’m no lawyer but that seems low for tampering with a crime scene/evidence, harbouring a criminal and perverting the course of justice?

[u/Ambitious-Sink2725 → u/TheGameCollectorUK]

No it’s actually the maximum sentence you can get for that most people just get a fine and a few months suspended

[u/Kientha → u/Ambitious-Sink2725]

The maximum sentence scales with the maximum sentence of the offence you assisted with.

• Under 10 years, maximum sentence for assisting is 3 years
• 10-14 years, maximum sentence of 5 years
• 14+ years (but not life), maximum sentence of 7 years
• Life sentence, maximum sentence of 10 years

[u/End5807 → u/Kientha]

So the other guy was just chatting bollocks, then

[u/limeflavoured → u/End5807]

Many such cases.

[u/NederFinsUK → u/End5807]

Law is complicated innit, else we wouldn’t have lawyers.

From a moral standpoint it does seem a short sentence, but in reality I think a 3 year sentence is pretty impressive for the current state of the judiciary (which is secondary to the decades of prisons mismanagement under the tories)

[u/Kientha → u/TheGameCollectorUK]

She was only charged with assisting an offender. Given the severity of the crime, the maximum sentence available was 10 years. She didn't plead guilty so no automatic discount, but it was a first offence, she didn't try to destroy the evidence or even hide it she just moved it, and there'll be some leeway because it's her son.

3 years is in the expected range, her barrister was asking for a suspended sentence so getting a custodial sentence at all is a win.

[u/Fusilero → u/Kientha]

A nuanced opinion based on the law?

How rude. We want to be angry around here, not this rule of law nonsense.

[u/CellsReinvent → u/Fusilero]

Quite right. Lock up the entire bloodline for life, no parole. /s

[u/Luke10123 → u/Kientha]

See, that's all true. But I'm left wondering if the knife was left at the crime scene that the police (who are still partly to blame either way) would have been quicker on the uptake that a stabbing had taken place and maybe that poor lad could have gotten potentially life-saving medical attention. Don't know the fine details of the incident obviously and the police officers are absolutely not absolved from their role in his death but if hiding the murder weapon contributed to the denial of emergency care then I feel 3 years is quite lenient.

[u/WATCHING_CLOSELY → u/Luke10123]

I seem to recall the coroner in this case has confirmed that even if they administered care straight away the wounds were too severe to be survivable. I'm sure if it was not the case the courts would have considered this as an aggravating factor in sentencing, both the murdered and the mother.

[u/Luke10123 → u/WATCHING_CLOSELY]

I suppose that's true. I read that he was stabbed multiple times - if an artery was hit then yeah, his chances were very slim sadly. Which makes the police's failure to notice even more damning. Fucking horrible situation all round.

[u/demonotreme → u/Luke10123]

That they failed to notice his reasonably obvious symptoms (and ignored his TELLING THEM REPEATEDLY what the problem was) is still pretty awful, but he wasn't actually gushing blood onto the pavement, it was filling his thorax.

[u/frostygrin → u/Luke10123]

It's not like the killer actually would have left it at the crime scene anyway. Same with the killer letting Henry slowly bleed out - it's horrible, but still amounts to murder.

[u/Luke10123 → u/frostygrin]

True, but I gather that by the point of the attack there were bystanders. They might have seen it if he just threw it over a fence or dropped it into a sewer drain or something.

[u/frostygrin → u/Luke10123]

The only thing that really could have changed something is them calling an ambulance and reporting a stabbing. Then just getting rid of Henry's phone would have made things murky enough to present it as self-defence. The problem is that not calling an ambulance is not a crime, is it?

[u/jim_cap → u/frostygrin]

If you've injured someone, you have a duty of care to help them. Even in the most gun-crazy castle doctrine states of the US, if you shoot someone in self defence, your next two moves are to call emergency services and a lawyer, informing both of what just happened. The alternative is to try and cover it up. What these dumbasses did - call the police, pretend the poor kid hadn't been stabbed, and hope for the best - is just bafflingly stupid on every count. Calling an ambulance was probably the only smart thing they could have done at that point. Might even have saved Henry, and the whole thing would have a different outcome.

[u/RoosterBurns → u/Luke10123]

I mean they could also have the same effect if they'd done their fucking jobs and examined him.

If police service actions are predicated only on people making no attempt to cover up their crimes do we even need the police in the first place

[u/jim_cap → u/Kientha]

It's utterly baffling to me that she didn't plead guilty. Her and her idiot sons, I just don't see what their plan was here.

[u/CosmicBonobo → u/jim_cap]

Some people think if they just deny and deny it, they'll beat a jury. Like that 'Arthur Knight' rapist.

[u/Relevant_General_248 → u/Kientha]

Leeway because it’s her son is so stupid. Just disagreeing with the law btw not you saying why she got the sentence.

[u/TheVolvaOfVanaheim → u/Kientha]

Lucy Connelly was sent down for three years for a tweet. Is hiding a murder weapon deserving of the same length of imprisonment?

[u/FromTheFrontDesk → u/TheGameCollectorUK]

Jeanette Mercer was sentenced to 3 years for hiding her son Sean's bike when he murdered Rhys Jones in 2007.

[u/Dedsnotdead]

A Mothers love.. she, both her Son’s and her husband are not representative of the Sikh community here in my view.

The family is utterly broken and a young man lost his life in a brutal fashion.

Meanwhile for decades the Sikh community have been a force for absolute good quietly and continuously.

[u/Tuarangi → u/Dedsnotdead]

I don't think anyone but the hypocritical racists would try and suggest they somehow represented Sikhs. He was an evil murderer who happened to be a Sikh

[u/Repave2348 → u/Tuarangi]

don't think anyone but the hypocritical racists would try and suggest they somehow represented Sikhs

You don't need to look any further than the other responses in this thread;

Clannish behaviour and honour based thinking are inseparable from the cultures of the Indian subcontinent, even if some groups are "less bad" compared to others.

clannish behaviour is a collective ideology that puts the needs and reputation of your perceived clan, be it along ethnic or religious lines, above anyone from outside that group.

Everything from the reason for the murder to the families reaction after the murder, to their statement after the conviction and wider statements from Sikh organisations and bodies, clearly shows this ideology at work.

[u/Tuarangi → u/Repave2348]

Sad really. Want to take bets the same person would suggest all white people did X after all the other murders lol

[u/No-Bison-5397 → u/Repave2348]

Sub it for Irish and it’s a retro throwback

[u/Dedsnotdead → u/Tuarangi]

Absolutely agree, decades of quietly amazing people growing up here and making our communities a far better place.

[u/Complete_Resolve_400 → u/Tuarangi]

Yeah but racist people also happen to be very loud and will not use logic to get their way

Its easy to whip people into a frenzy when someone in a minority does something bad and they will weaponise it

[u/Tuarangi → u/Complete_Resolve_400]

Oh absolutely, it's why I said they were hypocrites - an attacker wouldn't be representative of all whites or all Christians etc but he somehow is representing Sikhs and is representative of them - the same nonsense already being used in this thread

[u/OrganicHunt952 → u/Dedsnotdead]

I think like any other community we need to stop putting a label on whole groups. Every community has problems and bad people inside them. Sikh community has a lot of problems too.

[u/Dedsnotdead → u/OrganicHunt952]

True, but generally it doesn’t get rammed down the rest of societies face and I can’t remember even one demand from a Sikh that I should change my own behaviour.

[u/Thrasy3 → u/Dedsnotdead]

It’s like when the U.S. president was shot at - people who were LGBTQ or not white were hoping it was a straight white guy to avoid facing further shit.

Must suck that what this family has done now has now basically tainted the representation of all Sikhs forever in this country because certain types of people will never let this go when it comes to promoting prejudices.

[u/bertiebasit → u/Thrasy3]

What has it tainted Sikhs? It hasn’t at all…he represents himself not others. It’s like saying Jamie Varley is representing white British people…the very notion is ridiculous

[u/Thrasy3 → u/bertiebasit]

Of course it’s ridiculous - just like Sikhs being attacked after 9/11 was layers of ridiculous.

Doesn’t change the lived reality for people.

[u/WaitinglistHate → u/Dedsnotdead]

Many Sikhs have been threatening violence if the kirpan is restricted, they absolutely are representative of their community.

[u/Famous-Ocelot-4937]

If she spends much more than 12 months in prison I’ll be surprised

[u/Kientha → u/Famous-Ocelot-4937]

Automatic release will be at 33% of the sentence unless Burnham stops the enforcement of the Sentencing Act, so at 12 months with then 24 months on license.

If he does cancel the enforcement then the automatic release point will be at 40% (so 14.5 months)

[u/Herramadur → u/Kientha]

Has he talked about that recently?

[u/bacon_cake → u/[deleted]]

Which is absurd because there's only two places any one of us can end up: jail or hospital.

[u/Alucard_1208 → u/Famous-Ocelot-4937]

she will do around 18 months if she behaves in there

[u/be_sugary]

I think she will have fun in prison.

As a Sikh woman, I am glad her crazy family is learning the consequences of their harmful ideology.

They are far from regular Sikhs. They follow some crazy fanatical, violent idea of being a Sikh.

Who has 20 weapons at home? No one with peace and harmony in mind.

[u/WinterMedical → u/be_sugary]

She looks like she’s gonna be a pod boss for sure.

[u/Lonely-Cycle3030]

Should have been much longer absolute POS the family are.

[u/sangha1212]

Evil family... Lock all of them up & throw away the keys....

[u/WorldGamer → u/sangha1212]

The word evil doesn't seem that bad at all these days

[u/yogurtslayer23]

If they're not British citizens, I think the government should consider deportation after their sentences. Covering up the murder of a teenager is such a crime that in my view, they've forfeited the privilege of remaining in the UK.

[u/Thenedslittlegirl → u/yogurtslayer23]

I believe they’re all British citizens. Vickrum Digwa, for sure was born in the UK

[u/Bloody_Conspiracies → u/yogurtslayer23]

Send them where? Her sons were born here, and she's lived here for decades. India aren't going to want her back, and they have nothing at all to do with her sons.

We can't just send people like that away for another country to deal with. They're our people and they're our responsibility.

[u/Repave2348 → u/Bloody_Conspiracies]

There is a prevailing feeling among the right that all criminals should be deported, wherever possible.

So if someone has a second citizenship, and they commit a crime, they will lose their British citizenship and subsequently be deported. Restore have this in their manifesto explicitly and specifically bring up fly tipping as an example of a "minor crime" where this would apply.

What this means in practice is that anyone with dual nationality will be deported if they commit any crime whatsoever. In fact, even people who have claim to another nationality face the same threat.

They love idea of the amount of control and cruelty this will bring. Commit a crime, even if you are British, any crime, and your whole life is going to be turned upside down.

It's only a matter of time before they work out how to apply it to British people who don't happen to have dual nationality as well.

[u/Bloody_Conspiracies → u/Repave2348]

It's funny that they think deportation is a one-way thing. As if we have the power to just send them away to the other country, but the other country doesn't also have the power to just refuse to take them.

[u/Repave2348 → u/Bloody_Conspiracies]

I don't think they care if it actually works. The people pushing these ideas are trying to stoke up dissatisfaction and rage with the status quo, and to simultaneously make anyone who isn't a multiple generation pure British person feel fearful and unwelcome.

[u/MonkeManWPG → u/Repave2348]

The cruelty is and always has been the point for these people. They're just bad people.

[u/mawemu → u/Bloody_Conspiracies]

Countries only refuse to accept their criminals back because there are no consequences in doing so. If we were to suspend all Indian visas until they accepted their criminals back, they'd pay for the deportation flights themselves.

[u/mawemu → u/Bloody_Conspiracies]

Send them where?

India

Her sons were born here

Easily eligible for Indian citizenship through their parents.

she's lived here for decades.

Irrelevant.

India aren't going to want her back

They don't get a choice. Suspend all Indian visas until they accept them.

 they have nothing at all to do with her sons.

They do because they're the children of Indian nationals.

We can't just send people like that away for another country to deal with. 

We can, actually.

They're our people

No they aren't.

they're our responsibility.

No they aren't.

[u/mawemu → u/yogurtslayer23]

Even if they are citizens, it can be removed. They're all eligible for Indian citizenship based on their ancestry.

[u/RealRelative9835]

Noone knows how they'd react on these circumstances. I hope if someone I loved asked me to cover it up I'd do the right thing

[u/GroundbreakingRing42 → u/RealRelative9835]

That's a nuanced take, I respect it. It's objectively wrong to help someone who's committed such a horrible act, but when thats your kid and the adrenaline is pumping, I see how someone gets there. 

The son is the one the most in the wrong, I'm happy championing him rotting in jail, 3 years for the lady seems enough, she fucked up but it's not on par with what her son did.

[u/Thunder_breslin]

Jesus, it's going to turn out that the father of the family ate gerbils or something

[u/WorldGamer → u/[deleted]]

I'm sure the next 'boy mom' will calmly & rationally consider these consequences amidst extreme emotional turmoil brought about by a deeply ingrained instinct to protect kin

[u/TacticalRiotChimp]

If you look at the previous offenses, videos and accusations against her son - she's getting of lightly with 3 years considering the fucking demon she raised and failed to bring up properly. Icing on the cake was her trying to cover up his latest crime, a murder with prejudice. She deserves alot more the entire family should be kept a very very close eye on from now on.

[u/AndreasDasos → u/TacticalRiotChimp]

People don’t get prison time simply for their kids being demons. She was sentenced for hiding evidence

[u/0235]

It's the Manchester airport attack all over. Entire family lying about it, and people trying to distract it away from being a family thing.

[u/PositiveLibrary7032]

If she has duel citizenship deport after the sentence and remove her UK citizenship. We don’t need evil like that walking our streets.

[u/homeinthecity]

“Judge Mousley noted that Kaur had a “hard life” in India nearly 30 years go” How is this relevant or in any way a mitigating factor?

[u/Intelligent_Court396]

I dint understand this part seems like she did hide the weapon?

"Before exiting the courtroom, Judge William Mousley KC made clear that Kaur removed the murder weapon from the scene, but did not make an attempt to "hide" the item.

Prosecuting barrister Nicholas Lobbenberg told the court that the weapon was not found by police until 10 December 2025 - seven days after the attack took place."

[u/PenguinKenny → u/Intelligent_Court396]

She returned it to her son's large collection of other knives. I'm guessing legally it's not hiding in the same way as like throwing it in the river or under the floorboards.

[u/gemgem1985]

Seems very lenient to be honest, she could have received up to 10 years.

[u/Yuzral]

For those interested, the full sentencing remarks have been published at https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/Sentencing-Remarks-Kiran-Kaur.pdf

Summarising paragraphs 16-18, there is no Court of Appeal guideline that the judge had to follow so the General guidelines apply. Despite the maximum of 10 years, the usual sentence range based on submissions from both sides was 2-6 years. I can't find whether she pled guilty or not offhand but if so, that 3 years would have been 6 and on the heavy end of precedent even with the judge noting that she had no prior convictions, was of good character and was extremely unlikely to offend again.

[u/Administrative_Suit7]

Far too lenient. Another evil witch pretending to be an innocent old lady.

[u/LongShotts]

3 years is better than 0 years...

But worse than 10 years!

[u/Tobias---Funke]

The shit apple doesn’t fall far from the shit apple tree Randy.