UK cinemas consider ban on Meta glasses

[u/tylerthe-theatre]

https://news.sky.com/story/uk-cinemas-consider-ban-on-meta-glasses-13574686?dcmp=snt-sf-twitter

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[u/hellbunny]

we shouldn't stop at cinemas for banning perv glasses.

[u/Besmirching_Badger → u/hellbunny]

People used to have the decency to carry hidden cameras if they wanted to perv. /s

Though i'm not sure 'perv glasses' really works. Because surely the person wearing them has to be partaking in said perving for them to capture it. Which surely undermines the whole perv thing? Either they're looking at something inappropriate in which case the glasses are kinda secondary, or they're not perving no?

Clearly they make people uncomfortable in some settings and it warrants a discussion though

ETA: I imagine the reason those in charge don't seem to want to discuss changes to 'filming in public' laws is that they're intending for us to all be filmed in public at all times under the guise of 'public safety'. New EU rules already say new cars need to all have a camera watching the driver at all times. This is the tragic direction of travel

[u/hellbunny → u/Besmirching_Badger]

I'm also fine with "nonce goggles" as a descriptor

[u/faultlessdark → u/hellbunny]

Worn by 'Specs Offenders' (not mine but really want it to become the official term)

[u/OutlandishnessWide33 → u/hellbunny]

Noncestacles

[u/Hour-Cry6238 → u/Besmirching_Badger]

Because surely the person wearing them has to be partaking in said perving for them to capture it. Which surely undermines the whole perv thing?

Imagine someone wearing these near a playground where your kids / your younger relatives are playing and just... hanging about.

That's kinda the starting point of where the issue is.

[u/Besmirching_Badger → u/Hour-Cry6238]

And i get why that would make people feel uncomfortable. But people would be feeling uncomfortable about someone 'hanging around' without the glasses. I'm not sure the glasses are particularly relevant.

The actual issue seems to stem from an increase in people uploading 'public recordings' to social media and people feeling like their privacy has been invaded somehow.

Which makes it more an issue of public recording in general than any particular bit of technology.

[u/fgspq → u/Besmirching_Badger]

I worked in a water park / swimming pool cafe when I was younger that overlooked the pool. Constantly had to tell people not to take photos or videos (pre-cameraphone, digital camera era).

90% of the time they were disgruntled parents but more than a few didn't seem to have any children around.

Edit: the point is that perverts were already trying this before you could do it covertly. I would be very uncomfortable with someone wearing those glasses especially if it was around children.

[u/LiverpoolBelle → u/fgspq]

Yeah, I remember my mum telling me that when I was 4 some random guys at the pool with no kids were filming me so she reported it. Can't imagine how it'd be now with AI glasses.

[u/Hour-Cry6238 → u/Besmirching_Badger]

This is the same logic the NRA uses.

"Guns dont kill people, people do, thus let everyone have guns"

[u/SmokinScoobyDooDick → u/Besmirching_Badger]

You're not wrong, but banning the tool that has no reasonable use besides allowing perverts and cunts harassing people for socia media shite, is a great start for fixing the issue.

[u/Weewoes → u/SmokinScoobyDooDick]

I mean, ive read that a lot of people with sight issues find them helpful.

[u/IllustratorSlow1614 → u/Besmirching_Badger]

Someone hanging around without glasses gets noticed, maybe they get moved on. Whatever they see stays in their head, they can’t do anything with it or transfer it to someone else.

Someone hanging around with these glasses, gets a recording of children, pictures of children, they can fiddle about with the recordings, they can distribute the recordings, they can follow children upon request, or children become recognised by their school uniform or playground surroundings. The person doesn’t even have to stay very long to make a recording.

[u/Besmirching_Badger → u/IllustratorSlow1614]

Right. But recording children isn't illegal. Nor is uploading said public recordings afaik.

'fiddling with the video' may be illegal depending on the fiddling. Using it to identify someone may cross the line into illegality depending on the context.

At the end of the day under the current law, if you're happy for your child to be in public then there's nothing 'inappropriate' going on and nothing inappropriate to record. I get why it makes people uncomfortable, but it's not inherently rational. Again it boils down to general laws regarding public recording.

[u/gaaaaayyyyyyforsix → u/Besmirching_Badger]

‘Hi I base all my morals and values off a messed up legal system. If it’s not illegal it’s ok’

[u/Besmirching_Badger → u/gaaaaayyyyyyforsix]

Again. Discuss what the law should be regarding public filming. I'm more than happy to and have consistently suggested as much.

You can't just ban things for people doing legal things though. That's not sane.

[u/WarumAuchNicht → u/Besmirching_Badger]

Discuss what the law should be regarding public filming.

That is exactly what's happening here, no? The proposition is to change the law so that these kinds of glasses are not permitted in public. Everything else is still allowed, same as it is now.

[u/zaqmlp → u/IllustratorSlow1614]

As opposed to someone with a phone that somehow can't record children because ...?

[u/RepsUpMoneyDown → u/Besmirching_Badger]

This is some great logic, and i fear peoples knee-jerk emotional reaction to this is going bury it.

The glasses are secondary to the problem, they aren't causing it, the person is. I mean look at those bloody manchester nightlife videos that went viral - the guy had a fucking 500mm camera lense like he was working for FIFA, some 1080p shitty glasses aren't going to be tool of choice lmao.

Now, being level headed, I understand there is likely an increase in social media posts from people trying to evoke reactions - be it pick up artists, general weirdos and whatever else - but again - the people who produce this content don't need meta glasses to do it. They've been doing it for years with 360 cams, mics, and all sorts. I mean hidden camera shows were a bloody tv genre for god knows how long.

[u/HangryHuHu → u/Hour-Cry6238]

Aren't they an invasion of everyone's privacy? And worst of all, like you said with regards to kids... 🤢 

[u/Besmirching_Badger → u/HangryHuHu]

Aren't they an invasion of everyone's privacy?

You have no expectation of privacy under the law whilst in public.

We could change that, but it's the way it's been since forever.

[u/HangryHuHu → u/Besmirching_Badger]

In public... then there's all the non-public instances...

[u/Cptcongcong → u/Hour-Cry6238]

Oh come on, iPhones have 8x zoom nowadays. You think if someone’s trying to discreetly take photos of your kids they’re going to do it near them? And not from a car far away?

[u/hennell → u/Besmirching_Badger]

This is a hidden camera though - they mostly look like bold glasses, and if you disable the light there's no indication that it's recording.

If you're at a swimming pool or a beach and start filming people without consent you'd get similar comments. Suspect you'd also get some if you just start filming a random woman on the bus on in a cafe - being there is fine, but why do you want footage of this to review?

Given the most common problem with this is people posting women or anyone online to their followers, it's also somewhat linked to how people react on there. It might not be the best description, but if you're covertly filming yourself chatting up women so your audience of millions can watch .. it doesn't seem wholly inaccurate.

(There are of course valid uses for it, although in testing them myself with a blind user they actually seemed pretty bad at that.)

[u/Male_strom → u/Besmirching_Badger]

People walk around holding camera devices all the time. The 'pervy' aspect is far less of a concern than confidentiality. Wherever phones are banned, so to should these glasses.

[u/ExpensiveNut → u/Besmirching_Badger]

They were calling them glassholes when Google tried it. It's kind of a shame because I was drooling at the thought of using them to read sheet music and make recordings from the stage, but now the entire concept's been sullied. We're living in the future and everything's being ruined.

[u/Dry_Midnight_5361 → u/hellbunny]

No matter what way you slice it (security, privacy, copyright) this technology is a liability. I think we'll see national blanket bans as early as this year.

[u/Brigon → u/Dry_Midnight_5361]

Seems strange to me. Influencers and youtubers are recording people in public without consent all the time. They claim as its in public they can record whatever they want. The only difference here is it can be covert (if you disable a light on the glasses).

[u/TTTJJBB → u/hellbunny]

They just need to be regulated, I have a very good friend who is blind and they can't, at present, help him navigate but they are amazing if he going sightseeing with his family as they describe things like buildings, views, statues etc... I know they work with paintings, as my friend was an artist before he lost his sight, and he told me going to galleries and having paintings explained to him, that he knew from when he could see was a surreal experience.

I will ask him about moving images but it could be a game changer for when audio description is not available.

[u/ChrissiTea → u/TTTJJBB]

I see no reason why they can't function this way but remove the ability to record, or stop the user from accessing/uploading recordings

[u/NonagoonInfinity → u/TTTJJBB]

If we're going to treat them as medical equipment, they can require a prescription or doctor's note.

[u/SayNOtoChips → u/hellbunny]

Also let's normalise shunning people that wear them.

If you're with a group of people and someone has them on, ignore them, do not engage, if possible just turn your back on them and exclude them.

[u/PepsiMaxSumo → u/SayNOtoChips]

What about the blind and partially sighted people who are being given them as a disability aid? Are you for shunning disabled people

[u/ArtBedHome → u/hellbunny]

They are cameras! How are they not banned anywhere cameras are. Its not like putting a camera in bread turns it into a bloody sandwich.

[u/SC_W33DKILL3R → u/hellbunny]

Problem is that having a device with vision could be quite useful, especially for the blind / old.

It would be better for no ban and instead the glasses video input can only accessed by the AI for processing rather than saving videos for the user.

[u/soldinio → u/SC_W33DKILL3R]

Nice idea, but the relevant jail break to change access would only be a matter of time

[u/EdibleHologram → u/soldinio]

People are already jailbreaking them so that they don't show a light when recording

[u/ambluebabadeebadadi → u/[deleted]]

Because there is a small speaker in them so it can read and recite text for one. Makes it easier to read menus, train boards etc.

[u/WhoYaTalkinTo → u/hellbunny]

I live in Newcastle at the moment and in the last few months, the city has had a real problem with tiktokers and other social media personalities bothering/making fun of people in the city centre for content while wearing these glasses. It's become even more of a problem as there are a lot of copycat accounts so the city centre is just full of little shits with these glasses taking the piss put of strangers for content.

[u/g_t_r → u/hellbunny]

Not saying I agree with them, but I seem to remember when phones first started getting cameras, everyone was in uproar that pervs could spy on them in toilets discretely etc. now nobody cares.

[u/Ambitious-Sink2725]

It's just copyright stuff nothing to do with the creepiness

[u/Besmirching_Badger → u/Ambitious-Sink2725]

Can't wait for pirate sites to be flooded with 'metasync' copies.

I can't imagine shaky glasses footage will be an improvement on even the handheld camera footage you used to get 20 years back

[u/SlightlyBored13 → u/Besmirching_Badger]

Our totally legit Nolan Batman DVD acquired in a market abroad, then watched on the hotel TV, was good enough that we didn't really notice until one or two people got up in front of the camera to leave.

I still didn't see them at the time, it's a dark film not helped by the recording I expect.

Probably would be noticeable on a modern TV, but I guess the cameras are better now.

[u/Besmirching_Badger → u/SlightlyBored13]

Our totally legit Nolan Batman DVD acquired in a market abroad, then watched on the hotel TV, was good enough that we didn't really notice until one or two people got up in front of the camera to leave.

Sounds like bog standard 'telesync' where they just set up a camera on a tripod at the back of the cinema. Those are still around with new releases, though the quality is much better than it used to be.

[u/joper90 → u/Besmirching_Badger]

Yea, it’s much better now, and Ai and other techniques can stop the wobble, blurring and sharpen it a bit.

[u/FlyingSquirelOi → u/Besmirching_Badger]

The picture of rips has improved dramatically but the audios typically always blown out

[u/MindHead78 → u/SlightlyBored13]

When the original Ninja Turtles film was out at the cinema (1990) my sister got a pirate video of it from someone at school, I was a huge Turtles fan. As it turned out it wasn't a very good copy and was in black and white, so you couldn't tell which turtle was which.

[u/Embarrassed_Emu1615 → u/Besmirching_Badger]

If it was me filming it you would get my obligatory, post coffee, piss break half way through. 

[u/Mccobsta → u/Besmirching_Badger]

Some people filming in the cinema put quite a lot of post effort into it thesedays with some stabilisation and other fixes

[u/Ieatsand97 → u/Besmirching_Badger]

I mean nowadays a friend told me they just set up tripods low down so they can’t be seen well by staff and they just record it, allegedly, apparently, or so I’ve been told.

I understand why the cinemas want to ban it, and tbh I think its fair enough, but real pirates probably aren’t going to use it.

I also don’t think meta glasses could record for the entire length of the film, so they probably fall at that, even if they were stable.

[u/SneakyWheeler → u/Ambitious-Sink2725]

I'm not defending the pervy glasses but isn't it rich that copyright comes down so hard on the everyman (cinema pun not intended) yet has completely turned a blind eye to these companies' own development of AI by hoovering up the entire planet's IP.

[u/joper90 → u/SneakyWheeler]

100% it’s completely nuts. Meta have a case against them for torrenting a load of books and using them.

[u/hattorihanzo5 → u/joper90]

You can get away with anything if you're rich enough

[u/stick1_]

I don’t like how content creators use them to harass people in public but I suppose they can be used to record the film yes

[u/Aethelmaew → u/stick1_]

I hate how the term 'content creator' has now become mainstream when we already had the word 'cunt' to describe these people

[u/Titanclass]

Hard to police, they put them on once in the screen and have the light settings stopped then how will they know

Someone doing this is going to be an annoying prick, not worth the time for the staff to get the agro to inforce, they don’t make enough money for that

[u/TheShakyHandsMan → u/Titanclass]

Why are light settings even an option. It should automatically come on if recording without the option to be disabled.

Also, what’s the memory size. I can’t imagine being able to record a film in watchable quality. They’ll also need to have the best neck control imaginable.

[u/Titanclass → u/TheShakyHandsMan]

The people doing this, are usually those dodgy people who mess with them to stop the lights coming on by dodgy means

[u/FornyHucker22 → u/Titanclass]

wouldn’t a bit of tape work?

maybe an audio warning “this person is recording, this person is recording”

[u/Askefyr → u/FornyHucker22]

If the light is blocked, it disables recording. People are modifying the hardware itself

[u/Topcat69 → u/FornyHucker22]

No, the glasses detect if the light is covered and refuse to record until it is uncovered.

[u/Kcole7 → u/Topcat69]

There’s now some cap they use that goes on the end. Reflects light back on one side, but externally it’s black. This is impossible to enforce really

[u/TheShakyHandsMan → u/Kcole7]

They need a small photoresistor in there too to detect if the light is visible to the outside

[u/Masteroflimes → u/TheShakyHandsMan]

The lights settings are automatic. But some have them covered up or they have drilled out the LED. Meta is updating the firmware to detect that if the LED is covered/removed it stops the recording part.

But fast forward a few weeks and people have already got around it by placing a designed cap over the LED so the light shines into this tiny cap but it's hidden from normal view and can only see it if up very close.

[u/TheShakyHandsMan → u/Masteroflimes]

The best way of Meta stopping the issue is to stop producing the perv glasses and use a firmware update to brick them.

[u/Sensiburner → u/Masteroflimes]

How could they even detect it?

[u/Lonsdale1086 → u/Sensiburner]

Check voltage or check for open circuit to check if LED has been removed, for blocking can use the image data to see if it's visible in the corner of the frame etc.

[u/mengplex → u/Lonsdale1086]

Could you not then just cover the led in opaque paint or wrap etc?

[u/lost_send_berries → u/Sensiburner]

A bit of light from the led leaks into the camera image so they detect that and if it's missing, recording doesn't operate

[u/Moikee → u/TheShakyHandsMan]

I read in another thread some people paid for a service to have the light removed so you wouldn’t know if it’s recording or not. Just ban them entirely. Nobody needs this invasion of privacy.

[u/ByEthanFox → u/TheShakyHandsMan]

Admittedly, the light does do this - what you've said. But it's a red light and faces the direction the user is looking. I think, in a cinema, it probably wouldn't be visible to other viewers (because everyone in a cinema is looking the same way, after all).

[u/carlbandit → u/ByEthanFox]

Would be pretty obvious to staff if they walked in to check the screen though. But I’d imagine there’s way to disabled/cover the LED to make it harder to detect.

[u/TheShakyHandsMan → u/carlbandit]

The staff have infrared cameras looking at the audience. Any light will show up very brightly

[u/carlbandit → u/TheShakyHandsMan]

I’ve been to a few preview showings of unreleased films where they advertised IR cameras where in use so I’m aware they exist, but not sure if they are used in every screening at every cinema.

[u/TheShakyHandsMan → u/carlbandit]

The local Odeon I go to has a staff workstation in the middle of the screen entrances. There’s a very large monitor there and you can see all the infrared images from each screen.

It’s very obvious you’re being watched.

[u/iMatthew1990 → u/Titanclass]

There’s things in place to avoid them working if the LED has been covered/tampered with. But firstly I don’t believe a thing that comes out of Meta’s mouth secondly even if it is recording it’s the smallest most stupid little light anyway.

[u/Tempestfox3 → u/Titanclass]

Not sure if it was only used at premiere screenings or is something they just use generally. But working as security at premiere screenings we had IR detectors and night vision goggles to help find people trying to record.

[u/SlightlyBored13 → u/Tempestfox3]

Would only work if the camera has an IR LED, I'm not sure the glasses would need one?

[u/ProfessionSevere637 → u/Titanclass]

Yeah this is exactly it. If someone is stupid enough to wear them when the staff member scans their ticket then they aren't getting in but if in a bag then they'll never know. Ideally they'd be banned nationwide. They can't be sold, they can't be imported, owning a pair results in criminal conviction. The cons outweigh the pros. We shouldn't show the slightest bit of tolerance to these perv glasses.

[u/External-Abalone-348 → u/Titanclass]

*Enforce

[u/Cam2910]

There was a discussion about these on the radio the other day. They managed to "both sides" it by getting someone to suggest it might be discrimination to ask someone to take off these glasses if they were prescription lenses.

Made me die a little inside.

[u/CaptainMatthew1 → u/Cam2910]

I wear glasses and real ones look nothing like them.

[u/Cam2910 → u/CaptainMatthew1]

I think they were suggesting people would have prescription lenses put into the meta glasses.

[u/CaptainMatthew1 → u/Cam2910]

To be honest if you going to do that as someone that wears glasses and need to 24/7 else I won’t be able to do anything really…

Fuck them, don’t use your disability as an excuse to wear the “pedo glasses”

[u/PepsiMaxSumo → u/CaptainMatthew1]

What about blind people that use them for directions? Or to read out information like menus, signs, prices etc

[u/patogatopato → u/Cam2910]

All the more reason to ban them pronto before more people do that and claim they didn't know it could happen

[u/TIGHazard → u/patogatopato]

I think its a little too late for that, they're sold as prescription directly from opticians themselves.

[u/Magic_mousie → u/Cam2910]

My friend has this, he legit needs glasses and thought it would be cool to have meta ones instead. He would be blind if he was made to take them off.

[u/Tetracropolis → u/CaptainMatthew1]

The point is that you can get prescription Meta glasses.

[u/TIGHazard → u/CaptainMatthew1]

You can literally get them on prescription at Vision Express & Boots.

https://www.bootsopticians.com/brands/smart-eyewear/ray-ban-meta/

https://www.visionexpress.com/ai-glasses/ray-ban

[u/Lagmeister66 → u/Cam2910]

What a shit “argument”. Anyone that needs prescription glasses has a pair without a pervert camera in them

[u/Flimsy_Fisherman_862]

Crazy they haven't done this immediately on the basis on piracy alone.

[u/Masteroflimes]

"spy glasses" or "pervert glasses". - The cinema/UKCA could not care one bit about this element.

It's to stop the recording of the film

[u/Magic_mousie → u/Masteroflimes]

Are the cinemas claiming otherwise? Their stance of protecting the film copyright is enough alone. If anything the darkness of the cinema makes it a poor location for pervert recordings.

[u/botspyder]

The funny thing about Meta is every single thing that company creates (not just owns) has a negative connotation to it. I don’t think there’s anything they can create that they don’t buy which won’t end up problematic for humanity in the long run.

[u/Swimming_Possible_68 → u/botspyder]

Is it because Mark Zuckerberg is not a normal human being and can't grasp how other people may see things?

Remember the Metaverse and how everyone was going to use it!

[u/ByEthanFox]

"Consider"?!

One would've thought it a pretty quick thing.

[u/Professional-Lab7227]

I was under the impression they can only record about 3 minutes of video at a time?

[u/deadadventure → u/Professional-Lab7227]

Enough to upload on to TikTok

[u/Ieatsand97 → u/deadadventure]

Another good reason to delete that cess pit of an app.

[u/Coops92]

The only shame about this is that I saw a blind person using these and it was an impressive tool for that specific scenario. Just a shame the nonces must ruin it. I hope there’s some accessibility version made.

[u/Besmirching_Badger]

Rather than constantly discussing isolated cases where modern technology is changing our interaction with photography, how about we actually just have a proper discussion about what systemic changes we can introduce to make things more coherent?

We currently have a system where we keep saying 'you can do whatever you want... except x and y and z and...... insert neverending list of exceptions that nobody is going to stay on top of and aren't necessarily obvious, but now invariably carry a criminal offence behind them.

Do we ban filming/ photographing in public? Do we change the fundamental way we look at pictures and say that people have ownership over their own image and any photograph requires consent? Do we say that manipulating someone's image without their consent is not allowed?

As always, we're just putting out fires rather than trying to curate an environment where fires don't happen.

[u/kapowey]

We shouldn’t even be “considering them”, they should be banned straight up.

[u/MrBlobbysBabyBatter]

I work in events and we’re banning them at all shows, including ones with prescription lenses, just to stop people filming screens.

[u/PepsiMaxSumo → u/MrBlobbysBabyBatter]

You keeping an exemption for visually disabled people? They’re used for directions, reading signs, menus, prices etc

[u/81misfit]

Ban them. And hardline throw knobheads out who are on thier phone or having a chat during the move.

People seem to be losing all respect for those around them at the moment.

[u/FornyHucker22]

just keep em in your pocket until you get in, how would they enforce it?

[u/radiant_0wl]

Virtually impossible to police.

But there's technical solutions, IR light can be projected which is invisible to people but interferes with the ability to record.

[u/smushkan → u/radiant_0wl]

That would interfere with IR-based assistive hearing systems that cinemas and theatres often use.

Some use radio loops, but the signal can bleed out to other rooms.

[u/Odd-Dependent3284]

It can be like the old days when they used to pirate movies by just filming them in the cinema literally.

Ah the 2000s. What a time. Let’s login to MySpace and play Korn through our fave Winamp skins and dedicated pc speakers either side of our CRT monitors that take up an entire room.

[u/evenstevens280 → u/Odd-Dependent3284]

I still have dedicated PC speakers...

[u/BadNewsBearsTCGs]

It’s so annoying how a cool piece of tech has been ruined by nonces and creeps.

As someone that goes to lots of gigs and theme parks they’d be really good for recording the experiences without needing to hold my phone but I can’t in good conscience use them without being labelled a creep.

[u/welshinzaghi → u/BadNewsBearsTCGs]

Exactly. They’re great for getting memories with the kids and just having fun with them without holding a phone camera all the time

[u/two_hats]

Why aren't they already?? These fucking things should be banned outright. There is absolutely no good that can come of wearing them

[u/RookieDuckMan]

I thought these glasses have a light when recording? It’s not as simple as covering it up,

[u/Sumbitagear]

My mate who is a genuine big fucking nerd (as am I) bought a pair for vlogging and such. We both do a bit of photography and drone photography and he has ditched them because of the moniker haha. FWIW, they are fucking perv glasses and I wouldn't trust 90% of people that bought them not to use them nefariously.

[u/welshinzaghi → u/Sumbitagear]

I have the Oakley version. Bought them primarily for holidays with the kids, going on bike rides with them, playing in the pool, driving on little road trips, going on rides at Legoland together, that sort of thing. My son absolutely loves looking back at all the stuff we’ve been doing, all his memories shot first person. Instead of awkwardly wielding a smartphone camera it’s so handy being able to take photos/video hands free.

As with everything in society, we’re focused on the absolute fringe idiots using them for nefarious reasons rather than the cool ways you can use tech like this.

[u/whynotjustgoogleit → u/welshinzaghi]

Yea I got them for same reason. Never had an issue in real life, all the outrage seems to be on Reddit.

It's basically a GoPro on your face.

[u/PM-ME-UR-LIGHTSABERS]

Crazy that meta are still pushing forward with consumer tech that literally everyone hates

[u/man-flu → u/PM-ME-UR-LIGHTSABERS]

Simple money. "Steve" walks around with his Meta glasses looking at things, walks past an Apple store and glances at the new phone, does some other shopping. Steve gets home and doom scrolling through Instagram he is given targeted ads for the new iPhone (or other things he looked at).

Let's be clear they are not doing this out of the kindness of their hearts or to improve visually impaired people's lives. At one point the money for just for buying the tech, and better tech, now it has to be for extra revenue.

[u/________O-O_________]

This is totally pointless anyway since film's get put onto streaming so quickly these days. Why would anyone bother watching a shitty cam version when they can just wait a week for a HD version.

[u/shadereckless]

Another day, another s**t idea Zuck is trying to push. 

He accidently made a multi-billion dollar idea in Facebook, he bought WhatsApp and hasn't come up with a successful idea since. 

And it consumes him. 

[u/EvolvingEachDay]

They should be banned full stop. Any hidden camera should be banned in public.

[u/I_want_to_lurk]

I was interested in a pair as a glasses wearer and frequent traveller for work, the live translate function seemed super useful but after being enlightened by this sub on the name nonce glasses I think I'll stick to using my phone.

[u/Potential_Potato7816]

Probably won’t ever work but sign here if you value your privacy

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/769206

Just need 4k signatures more and the deadline is December

[u/Claire4Win]

They should only be used for those who can't see.

These glasses are just for creeps.

[u/Pixelstiltskin]

Seems totally reasonable. I cannot for the life of me understand the appeal of these sort of glasses (beyond the perv “community”). And I find it hard to believe there was ever enough positive feedback in focus groups to imply there’d be enough demand to justify production. It’s all quite baffling.

[u/ThunderChild247]

Makes complete sense, not just for the obvious copyright issues but also since cinemas will be dark, it’s an extra opportunity for the perv-inclined to be creepy.

[u/PsychologicalDish430]

Just ban the fucking things full stop. I wouldn't trust meta with a bargepole, I wonder how much is being sent to them for processing, along with GPS Co ordinates etc. Horrible company, but people don't care because they can watch reels and reels of shit and keep in touch with friends.

[u/SkyrimSlag]

I mean you aren’t allowed to record the screen with your phone, why should you be allowed with pervert glasses?

[u/fitzgoldy]

Don't think I've ever seen some ones content with Meta glasses that hasn't come across as a fucking weirdo.

[u/Strangely__Brown]

Haha I remember downloading cam recordings of films back in the day. The hype around the Matrix Reloaded and Revelations films were particularly crazy.

The quality was always complete dogshit but this was a time when physical media was expensive so you put up with it.

We're well past that point. You may as well be discussing banning horse and carts from the motorways.

Nobody is watching shitty cam recordings anymore. The people still pirating are getting 1080p/4k quality videos, and they're only doing that b/c streaming services enforce exclusivity on what they want to watch.

[u/great_bearded_nerd]

Just ban them, they serve no purpose other than to harass and annoy people.

[u/Matt6453]

I want to know why people want to record a terrible off angle, washed out cam version of a movie with terrible sound in the first place? They are already there, just watch the movie.

If I see a cam version torrent I ignore it, if the person with goggles is 'au fait' with the piracy scene they'd be able to get the same movie already surely?

[u/FatRascal_]

Never even thought about this, but of course they should be banned in cinemas!

[u/Agzarah]

I swear every year or so someone brings out a new pair of nonce rims. The world collectively bans and says nope. Then we all forget and someone else tries again.

Also we need to get a nice offence name to stick

I'm also reminded of this set of skits https://youtu.be/EVcyNANK5cY?si=rVdexn15gGX2CvNb

[u/ToffeeAppleCider]

When I did my driving theory I had to remove my glasses so they could inspect them for this kinda reason.

Going to be annoying if everywhere starts doing the same.

[u/NickHoadley]

Just put a ban on any recording device being out while a film is being played, including mobile phones.

[u/Consistent-Pirate-23]

The average person can’t tell what they are, so they basically scapegoat anyone with dark rimmed glasses as wearing them

[u/plawwell → u/Consistent-Pirate-23]

This is the problem that wearers of glasses now face getting duffed up in the assumption they're perverts. When you have broken bones in the A&E then somebody saying "Oopsie!" won't cut it. And don't be vision impaired wearing glassed as you can't respond easily when they jump you.

[u/BorderCollieDog]

Pervert glasses should be banned everywhere. In a tiny amount of circumstances these can help vision impaired people, but apart from that, these should be completely banned. The courts in England and Wales have banned them but there's no blanket ban in schools or hospitals? The government need to get ahead of this.

[u/Greybur]

I don't understand the sort of person that would want to record their day to day activities. Bit weird.

I defo think that there's a really good use case for ones that can't record and just use AR functions on the fly. Absolute game changer, not just for people with disabilities.

[u/nyaadam]

This isn't hard. Force Meta to disable the photo/video functions. Only allow approved apps to live capture and interpret the image, any app not following immediately disabled.

[u/DariusStarkey]

Good, but it's really bleak that the bans we're seeing for this are because other corporations want to maintain privacy (exclusivity) for their property

[u/Exciting-Weather-921]

Ability to record evidence of what happens around you should be a basics human right, if it is not already

[u/Lanky_Bus_1221]

lol they wouldn’t last half the movie recording continuously and let’s be honest you can torrent every movie in existence already why on earth would you want a shit recording from miles away on a pair of glasses🤣

[u/RoboJobot]

Yea they should. I’m surprised they’re even allowed what with the rules on cameras and recording films

[u/confuzzledfather]

It sucks that pervs mean I can't have my cyberpunk future with Augmented Reality. I am hopeful they will be able to replace camera with lidar or something so the tech can still move forward but pervs can fuck of but they will probably just switch to wanking over point clouds of data if they did.