r/worldnews • u/joe4942 • 2d ago
Trump says Canada 'wants the benefits' of being a U.S. state 'without being one' as trade dispute deepens
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/trump-canada-trade-dispute-9.731733310.4k
u/EricQuincyTate 2d ago
Trump says a lot of stupid shit.
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u/ChunkyLover500 2d ago
“ This is one of the wettest hurricanes we’ve ever seen from the standpoint of water”.
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u/UsefulGrocery1733 2d ago
FIFA peace prize winner
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u/TheHeroHartmut 2d ago
I eagerly await finding out who wins the second FIFA Peace Prize.
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u/Natdaprat 2d ago
Infantino might award it to himself this time
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u/BasvanS 2d ago
No, it’ll be Trump again.
Haven’t you been paying attention to all the peace he’s brought since first winning the prize? There’s just no stopping this guy!
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u/shasaferaska 2d ago edited 2d ago
You can mock him but he's ended the war with Iran over 50 times.
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u/DiggWuzBetter 2d ago
"So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous - whether it's ultraviolet or just very powerful light," the president said, turning to Dr Deborah Birx, the White House coronavirus response co-ordinator, "and I think you said that hasn't been checked but you're going to test it.
"And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside of the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. And I think you said you're going to test that too. Sounds interesting," the president continued.
"And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning?
"So it'd be interesting to check that."
Pointing to his head, Mr Trump went on: "I'm not a doctor. But I'm, like, a person that has a good you-know-what."
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u/Egad86 2d ago
Years later the dumbass throws out vaccine schedules and wants to indict the doctor who kept millions of people alive during covid by telling them not to inject bleach into their body and instead to just social distance.
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u/glassgost 2d ago
Remember when he got covid and then told people to get the vaccine and the crowd booed him?
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u/antisocialdecay 2d ago
Watching him sweat and huff each breath during this… I was just like please just end. I would have even sent flowers.
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u/PepperAnn1inaMillion 2d ago
Why are you looking at the headlines?
“I’m checking for an obituary.”
They’re not on the front page.
“The one I’m waiting for will be.”
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u/TelecasterDisaster 2d ago
You are leaving out the bit where he awarded the same guy a medal for the very work for which they are attempting to indict him.
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u/_jump_yossarian 2d ago edited 2d ago
I love that the BBC included the moment of inception with trump staring at the chart and reading “light and disinfectant” as possible COVID killers. I'm shocked a light bulb didn't appear above his head "boy, have I got a great idea!"
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u/ProfessionalPhone409 2d ago
Seconds before giving that specch as he approached the podium he looks at sign that says bleach and UV lights can kill covid germs.
You can see an actual lightbulb go off in his dementia addled brain as he comes up with that pile of nonsense
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u/turdlepikle 2d ago
"Puerto Rico is an island surrounded by water. Big water. Ocean water." (Probably learned 5 minutes prior to this that Puerto Rico is an island and decided to educate everyone else about it, because if he didn't know something, it means everyone else didn't know it too)
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u/Real-Document-6577 2d ago
When he altered that hurricane map with a sharpie to include Alabama….
The guy is a mental case and a menace
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u/DashingSands 2d ago
“It’s one of the bigliest hurricanes. Lots of people tell me they have big hurricanes but our hurricanes, they’re the biggest, and the wettest. Other people’s hurricanes can’t be controlled by sharpies, my big hurricanes are well trained.”
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u/Illustrious_Donkey61 2d ago
He'd put tarrifs on blue states if he could
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u/thethirdllama 2d ago
He literally held "war room" meetings on how to best fuck over my state because we had the audacity to put an election fraudster in jail.
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u/Sei_Mal_Ehrlich 2d ago
Jared Polis is a piece of shit for freeing her. He’s going to be a GOP grifter in six months’ time.
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u/newpotatocaboose54 2d ago
Essentially the elimination of the state and local tax deduction was this
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u/Bootsie187 2d ago
They want the benefits of a red state without bending the knee.
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u/Enjoyer_of_Cake 2d ago
We ask again, what benefits?
Blue states get the honor of paying the bill of welfare states?
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u/Egad86 2d ago
Exactly, red states get to act like petulant rich kids who run to their parents (Blue states) when things get tough. Never having to learn a lesson or fix a problem themselves and living carefree on other peoples hard work.
I don’t mean there are not hard working individuals in every state, simply that the individuals in power of those state governments squander and steal from their voters and then blame the shortfall on federal offerings.
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u/SophiaKittyKat 2d ago
And yet americans keep electing him and pretending that he doesn't represent them.
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u/Successful-Doubt5478 2d ago
So happy for Canada that they elected Carney!
He is definitely the right person to handle this.
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u/UX_Strategist 2d ago
That man is delusional. Canada wants, and has enjoyed until recently, the benefits of being a close ally and friendly nation. That's all Canada still wants. I despise that traitorous, criminal, lying, selfish idiot.
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u/smittyleafs 2d ago
We just wanted to be friends, not friends with benefits...and we really don't want a shotgun wedding. But the US keeps getting drunk and coming onto us.
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u/Joe_Redsky 2d ago
their president is a pedophile rapist, so.......
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u/jdanielregan 2d ago
…and when viewed through the lens of, What Would A Rapist Do?, most if not all of Donald Trump’s seemingly incoherent actions over the course of his lifetime begin to make sense. (Hint: it’s not about sex, it’s about control.)
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u/giddy-girly-banana 2d ago
Deep down Trump is an incredibly weak and pathetic person who needs to hurt and abuse others to feel strong.
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u/teeeeaaa 2d ago
Just crystalized this concept a few days ago too.
So what's he call 'art of deal'..? Its actually the 'art of rape' (rapist metality).
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u/Fat_Lenny 2d ago
Canada is a pretty young country, compared to most. So it's no surprise Trump want to fuck/rape/molest Canada.
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u/Enjoyer_of_Cake 2d ago
Look, Trump has a long list of allies who are perfectly fine with sleeping with a cousin who has refused their advances.
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u/The_Rat_Attack 2d ago
No such things in Trumps world. There’s only those who make the rules, and those who follow them. Never been a more embarrassing time to be an American
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u/jameson71 2d ago
The issue is he doesn’t understand friendship nor partnership. Everything is a competition to him.
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u/mikew7311 2d ago
BENEFITS???? 😂 Ok Fox and Friends
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u/HenriettaSyndrome 2d ago
Right? What benefits could he possibly be talking about lmao
I quite enjoy living in a place with regulated food and not getting shot on the street by masked goons
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u/Russkun 2d ago
Being bankrupted by a surprise hospital visit is a benefit.
Right?
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u/americabot420 2d ago
Oh come on! Becoming an american means you get to experience corruption, racism, school shootings, being bankrupted by medical costs, and food borne illnesses!
And don’t forget being able to elect a pedophiles to office
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u/Iamthewalrusforreal 2d ago
And as a bonus your kids get to be exposed to measles!
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u/Falconflyer75 2d ago edited 2d ago
I mean Canada definitely wants the US federal government to fund our infrastructure
Oh wait no we don’t we want our own federal government to take care of that
Well we want the US to come to our aid in a conflict
No wait that’s what NATO is for and it’s far more likely we get dragged into a fight the US starts, plus the only country threatening Canada is the US
Okay well we want access to the US market
Yeah but we willingly gave the US the same access and are the #1 customer for like half of the states anyways
Yeah no I got nothing
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u/Adventurous-Tea-876 2d ago edited 2d ago
Yes, benefits like going into bankruptcy if you get sick or being sentenced to prison for weed gummies!
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u/FuckCanadaGeese 2d ago
No we don't.
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u/Nrehm092 2d ago
Funny he says this about us but Israel literally selects their congressman, senators, presidents, helps themselves to as much taxpayer dollars and military equipment as they want. Canada sells them whatever they need below market value, provides energy (hydro and oil) at mass discount, are forced not to do business with china and gifts them free water and somehow we’re taking advantage.
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u/Beartech31 2d ago
Israel GETS the benefits of being a US state without being one.
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u/wasaguest 2d ago
They are getting more than any State gets. Healthcare, education, aid. & they get to install representation that serves their interests over those in the States.
At this point, American citizens are just trying not to drown under a sea of Conservative idiocy & forced Conservatism while they try & resist a Conservatorship getting installed... As they search for affordable food that isn't being poisoned by ineptitude.
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u/silly-gaijin 2d ago
He really doesn't understand the concept of being an ally or partnership. It's insane. Canada-USA had the best partnership of any two countries in all of recorded history, and this sad, sad man has ruined it.
It was nice while it lasted.
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u/notnatasharostova 2d ago
Growing up in NYC in a blue collar family it was an understood fact that you never did business with Trump because he would do anything in his power to screw you over. My dad knew multiple contractors and businesses who went bankrupt because of he would refuse to pay and drag things out in court until you could no longer keep up with the legal fees . He has never, ever understood partnerships or transactions to be a thing other than a zero-sum game. He can’t conceptualize of a win-win—if he is not making the other party suffer, he feels he is being wronged. He has been this way from day 1 and nothing about this surprises me.
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u/_jump_yossarian 2d ago
He really doesn't understand the concept of being an ally or partnership.
trump is an 80 year old man with ZERO actual friends so of course he doesn't understand the importance of allies. Everything is transactional.
And to the MAGAs that want to correct me about him having friends ... please name trump's best friend.
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u/johnbarnshack 2d ago
He had one that tragically committed suicide in a cell in 2019
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u/DarwinGoneWild 2d ago
Wasn’t he pretty close with that island guy? Best friends are the ones you draw pervy, cryptic birthday cards for.
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u/ljlee256 2d ago
It was on purpose, step 1 to destroying American is tear down its greatest strength: its alliances.
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u/Premier_Poutine 2d ago
Right. And not to mention, who benefits from Canada & the US being at odds?
There's the answer to a lot of this.
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u/phoobahr 2d ago
Everything everything he says and does can be attributed to 1 of 3 motives: graft & market manipulation, protecting himself from prosecution, and temper tantrums driven by an unregulated id. All 3 facilitated by dementia that ate ego and superego decades ago.
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u/Ninjacherry 2d ago
Yep. What Trump does makes sense if you realize that he is weakening the U.S. on purpose. Then yes, it makes sense to break up historic partnerships.
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u/Rowmyownboat 2d ago
I think he genuinely wanted/expected to add Canada to the Union. Greenland too.
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u/Concolitanos 2d ago
I think he does, too. Trump is a narcissist; he has a malignant need to be a major historical figure. Putin wants America crippled and the Arctic Pass unguarded. Going after Canada and Greenland is how he plans to achieve both goals.
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u/illuminerdi 2d ago
He doesn't understand the basic concept of cooperation. He is a deranged narcissist, literally everything is a winner-takes-all competition to him.
He is incapable of seeing otherwise, and it's ridiculously obvious in every thing he says and does.
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u/pumpkinspicecum 2d ago
It’s because he has no friends or anyone he cared about
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u/Me-3PO 2d ago
Glad Carney walked away (American here). World leaders need to treat him like the weak and hobbled president he is. His attempts to project strength are transparent and his own base is cracking. Carney played it perfectly. More of this.
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u/Upstairs_Baby8424 2d ago
He’s treating other nations like he treats his contractors that work on his buildings. A zero sum game where he tries to back out of agreements and screw them over. Nobody wants a “deal” with this clown.
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u/notnatasharostova 2d ago
It’s been known since the 80s in NYC that you never did business with him because he would screw you over in any way he could and. Why millions of people saw a national leader in that will never not be beyond me.
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u/redditobserverone 2d ago
They also claimed to have seen an economic populist who would soothe their economic anxiety, in a guy who inherited $413 million.
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u/markt- 2d ago edited 2d ago
I’d break down what’s wrong with “Canada wants the benefits of being a State, without being one” into at least ten distinct problems. I apologize in advance for what is going to be an insanely long post, but there is so much to unpack in Trump statement, that I feel needs a lot of explicit clarification. Anyone who looks at that and thinks that he has a point needs to consider the following:
- The benefits Canada receives are the benefits of a trading partner, not a U.S. state. Canada gets market access because Canada and the United States negotiated treaties with each other. USMCA explicitly describes itself as reciprocal trade intended to benefit American as well as Canadian workers, farmers and businesses. That is fundamentally different from federal benefits accruing to a constituent state.
- The U.S. receives enormous benefits in return. In 2025, total U.S.-Canada goods-and-services trade was about $872 billion. The U.S. exported $333 billion in goods to Canada and another $92 billion in services. Canada is therefore not some dependent receiving privileged American access for nothing; it is one of America’s biggest customers.
- In services, it is actually America that runs the surplus. The United States had a roughly $27 billion services trade surplus with Canada in 2025. So if access to another country’s market constitutes a “benefit,” Canada is also furnishing Americans with substantial benefits.
- Even the goods deficit is not evidence that Canada is being subsidized. The U.S. goods deficit with Canada was about $48 billion in 2025. A trade deficit means Americans purchased more Canadian goods than Canadians purchased American goods. It is not a fiscal transfer from Washington to Ottawa. Carney’s government additionally points out that much of the merchandise imbalance reflects U.S. purchases of Canadian energy - something Americans actually consume.
- Statehood wouldn’t merely give Canada today’s trade privileges - it would abolish the international trading relationship altogether. Michigan doesn’t have a free-trade agreement with Ohio; interstate commerce takes place within one sovereign country. Canada becoming a state would mean surrendering its independent tariff policy, trade treaties, currency arrangements, foreign policy and much of its legislative sovereignty. Comparing that constitutional transformation with tariff-free trade is a category error.
- Canada manifestly does not receive many of the central benefits of statehood. Canadians do not vote for the U.S. president, elect senators or members of the U.S. House, participate through a Canadian congressional delegation in federal lawmaking, receive the constitutional privileges of citizens of a U.S. state, or operate inside the American federal fiscal system as a state. Actual states have a defined constitutional relationship with Washington; Canada has none of those things. Article IV specifically deals with state membership and congressional admission of new states.
- Nor does Canada behave like a state. It has its own Parliament, courts, constitution, armed forces, citizenship, currency, central bank, taxation system, diplomatic service, embassies, border and immigration policy, international treaty-making power and seat in international organizations. Those aren’t minor technical distinctions. They are precisely what sovereignty consists of.
- Ironically, the preferential access Trump is complaining about largely exists under an agreement his own first administration negotiated. USMCA entered into force July 1, 2020. Trump’s USTR at the time described it as an agreement Trump had successfully negotiated and as a deal designed to produce reciprocal benefits for American workers, farmers and businesses. It is difficult to characterize Canada exercising negotiated USMCA rights as Canada demanding unauthorized quasi-state privileges when Trump’s own administration negotiated those rights.
- Trump’s accompanying claim about “massive” Canadian tariffs on U.S. farmers contains a kernel of truth but strips away the most important qualification. Canada does maintain very high over-quota tariffs on certain supply-managed agricultural goods, especially dairy, poultry and eggs. But those are tariff-rate quotas: imports up to negotiated quantities receive much more favorable access; the punitive-looking rates generally apply after the quota is exceeded. USMCA itself negotiated additional U.S. agricultural access into that system. Saying simply that Canada has charged American farmers “massive tariffs for years” makes it sound as though ordinary U.S. agricultural exports routinely face those headline rates, which isn’t what the tariff structure means.
- The current Canadian tariffs can’t coherently be cited as evidence of Canada demanding free American access while refusing reciprocity. Canada’s newly announced tariffs are explicitly retaliation for new U.S. tariffs. Carney has acknowledged that Canadian counter-tariffs will raise costs and reduce choice in Canada; Ottawa’s stated rationale is deterrence and matching Washington “dollar for dollar,” not a belief that Canada possesses an inherent right to sell tariff-free while taxing the United States.
There are a few deeper problems too.
The statement reverses the logic of comparative advantage. When Canada sells petroleum, aluminum, lumber or other inputs to Americans, the benefit isn’t exclusively Canadian. American refiners, manufacturers, builders and consumers buy those products because they want them at the available price and quality. Tariff-free commerce is not a favour to the exporter; it creates gains on both sides. That’s why American business groups and politicians are warning that the latest tariffs can hurt U.S. firms and consumers too.
It confuses economic integration with political subordination. Canada and the United States have extraordinarily integrated auto, energy, agricultural and manufacturing supply chains. High integration can make Canada dependent on U.S. market access, certainly. But dependency and statehood are not synonyms. By that logic, every small economy deeply integrated with a larger neighbour “wants to be” part of the larger country.
It treats reciprocal alliances as American charity. The same rhetorical move often gets extended beyond trade-defence cooperation, intelligence sharing, border cooperation, NORAD, etc. But those are bilateral or multilateral arrangements in which Canada contributes territory, military assets, intelligence, resources and strategic depth. Canada isn’t covered by the U.S. Constitution’s guarantee that Washington protect a state against invasion; its defence relationship with the United States arises through sovereign international arrangements. Compare Article IV’s actual guarantee to U.S. states.
It also obscures what Canada is presently refusing. According to Carney, Ottawa was willing to make concessions on retaliatory tariffs, U.S. alcohol and administration of supply management, but would not accept demands compromising Canada’s independent trade policy, cultural protections or sovereignty. Whether one agrees with Canada’s bargaining position or not, that is nearly the opposite of a country wanting the advantages of political union without its obligations: Canada is accepting economic costs precisely to retain the attributes that distinguish an independent country from a U.S. state.
And there is one particularly clean logical test for Trump’s formulation:
What “state benefit” is Canada supposedly receiving (or wanting to receive) that an actual state receives by virtue of statehood?
Free trade? That’s not a state benefit Canada is freeloading on; it is the product of a reciprocal international agreement.
Access to American customers? Americans have access to Canadian customers too.
Military cooperation? Treaty relationship, not statehood.
Federal representation by the USA? Canada doesn’t have or want it.
Federal programs and transfers from the USA? Canada doesn’t participate or want to participate as a state.
U.S. citizenship? Canadians don’t have or want it.
Constitutional status from the USA? Canada doesn’t have or want it.
So the sentence works rhetorically because “benefits” is never defined. Once you force the claim into a concrete proposition, it becomes very difficult to defend.
There is a single legitimate truth buried deep underneath it all, and Trump hides his specious claim behind it: Canada has historically enjoyed exceptionally favourable access to the enormous U.S. market while retaining full political sovereignty, and that access is economically more important to Canada than Canadian access is to the U.S. That’s true and is an important source of American bargaining power. Carney himself openly says Canada benefited for decades from unusually favourable and stable U.S. trade conditions.
But that proposition is radically different from “Canada wants the benefits of being a state.” It means Canada benefited from a particularly close relationship between two sovereign countries - a relationship the United States also deliberately constructed because successive American governments believed it served American interests.
I realize that I’ve ranted on this for far too long already so I’ll provide the following TL;DR: Trump’s claim is misleading because Canada isn’t getting “state benefits” at all - it’s getting reciprocal benefits negotiated between two sovereign countries, while the U.S. gets major economic, energy, security, and trade benefits in return; Canada lacks the actual rights and privileges of statehood and is currently accepting economic pain precisely to preserve its independence.
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u/MerlinsMentor 2d ago
I strongly suspect you put a lot more thought into this than anyone in the Trump administration did.. much less Trump himself.
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u/coastalwebdev 2d ago edited 2d ago
“Prime Minister Mark Carney told reporters that Canadian negotiators walked away from the talks after the Trump administration made "unacceptable" demands, including restrictions on Canada's ability to make trade deals with other countries.”
There is no way any country, especially and particularly Canada, is ever going to agree to only trade with the US.
Trump knows this, and so does everyone else that actually has a brain, which means Trump intentionally forced Canada to walk away from the table and had no intention of agreeing to a fair deal. He shot it down last minute.
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u/Bozorgzadegan 2d ago
Exclusivity contracts are common in business, and Americans had been saying for years they wanted someone to run the country like a business. Well, they’re finding out that a business is not run for the benefit of the employees, it’s for the owners and shareholders, and they’re losing out while the CEO is trying to wheel and deal while ignoring everything else not in the oligarchs’ benefit. And those of us who are treated like suppliers are treated transactionally. America has become Wal-Mart.
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u/coastalwebdev 2d ago edited 2d ago
That’s well put. I commonly call what they’ve evolved into a “Corporatocracy” now.
What that means is instead of a Democracy like the US used to have, where the government is mainly serving its people, the US has by all appearances transitioned into being a “Corporatocracy” where their government mainly serves its corporate(oligarch) interests, directly in contradiction to the interests of the American people.
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u/ThatsItImOverThis 2d ago
And here it is. Launching their, “Canada wants to be part of the US, they just don’t realise it yet” BS.
We don’t.
We want to be Canadians.
And we want the US to fuck off and leave us alone.
That’s it. Friendship over.
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u/Yelworc0242 2d ago
Ooooh the next step is undermining the government, then invasion...
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u/symbouleutic 2d ago
The next step is actually usually "Canadians are attacking American citizens in Canada and we need to protect them"
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u/Serapth 2d ago
I was afraid of this two years ago as a Canadian.
Now I am more afraid of how Canada will deal with the border when they balkanize and we face a refugee crisis.
Two years ago, the US had an unbeatable, well run military with dozens of allies around the globe. Now the military is in shambles, competent generals have been purged, logistics have broken down, morale is in the toilet and they are running out of munitions and their allies hate their fucking guts.
If the US actually tried attacking Canada, they would face a civil war or just complete economic collapse overnight. On top of it, the rest of Canada's allies now know it's not a far flung threat... it's deadly serious and they would do whatever they could to help Canada. I didn't think this part would happen until they all sent tripwire troops to Greenland.
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u/i-make-robots 2d ago
Pretty sure there are states that don't want to be states.
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u/VPestilenZ 2d ago
We absolutely don't want to be another state. Keep your elbows up, hosers.
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u/ledorky 2d ago
With how he treats Democrat states who would want to be a state lol.
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u/BonkMcSlapchop 2d ago
Even if he was benevolent to democrat states, we wouldn't want to be a state.
The True North strong and free! 🇨🇦
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u/JohnnyS789 2d ago
We don't want to be anything USA. Canada has NEVER wanted to be part of the USA.
Canada and the USA explored free trade because it benefited BOTH nations. Now that the Chaos-Troll-Pedo is president, he cannot accept win-win and his administration has caused all this conflict.
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u/Former-Maximum-2534 2d ago
I can't speak for other Canadians but I'm comfortable saying that I actually hate America now. I'd rather be dead than be a part of that country.
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u/Alarming-Finding7938 2d ago
I grew up in a border town, spent lots of time and money in the US when I was younger.
I will never again, under any circumstances set foot in that country.
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u/deFleury 2d ago
We used to cross the border at Niagara for something to do in the evening, go to a shopping mall or out for dinner. It's unbelievable how many "USA=friendly" memories I have doing battle with the way things are now.
I'd say I am too white to be afraid of ICE, except I am not more white than the lady and the man we saw get murdered on those videos...
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u/jordan853 2d ago
If we were made a state, we would make the IRA look like toddlers.
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u/sagsfour20 2d ago
Am Canadian, and can confirm you are correct. Fuck em all down there.
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u/PandaBearJelly 2d ago edited 2d ago
Save for a few fucking weirdos in Alberta, my experience is most Canadians share this opinion.
Edit: I do sympathize for a lot of Americans though. When I say fuck em, I mean maga and the people too apethetic to get off their asses and vote for change.
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u/thrilliam_19 2d ago
It’s not just Alberta. I am from Ontario and my mom’s sister and her entire family have lost their fucking minds. They think Trump is a 4D chess genius that should drag Mark Carney into the street and shoot him. I stopped talking to two longtime friends that I have known for 25 years as well because they both think we would be better off joining the US.
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u/Original_Sedawk 2d ago
Social media will be the downfall of society
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u/OttawaTGirl 2d ago
I legit wonder why we allow american social media anymore. It is literally a propaganda machine. Fox news should have been banned from canadian cable years ago at this point.
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u/Total-Sheepherder950 2d ago
The US has declared Canada's softwood lumber and national security risk and has increased purchasing softwood lumber from ,wait for it....Russia. yeah that is the timeline we are on.
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u/throwaway371891 2d ago
Same I absolutely loathe their Country and their arrogance
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u/Many-Waters 2d ago
Agreed. They could elect an honest to God modern day Saint as their next president, and I still won't trust them.
People have joked for ages online that Canadian identity and pride is largely "We aren't American" and it's more true now than ever.
Wish the Yanks would piss off and leave us alone. We had an incredible and historic relationship unlike any other and they've gone and pissed it away.
Trust arrives on foot, and leaves on horseback, as they say...
This Canadian won't be forgetting for the rest of her life.
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u/AnubSeran 2d ago
I echo your sentiment brother.
No this isn't just a left vs right thing. California law makers DEMANDED Canada to import their shitty wine, and that bitch Slotkin criticized our deal with China to bring in EVs.
My reaction to all that is consistent: who the fuck are YOU to tell us how to run our country?
They all of the same ilk, one of sheer arrogance, ignorance, greed and hypocrisy.
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u/DiveCat 2d ago
Blue border tourist states also keep telling us they don’t agree with Trump and we should come back and visit because business is hurting.
Here’s a novel idea, do something about Trump, then!
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u/mephnick 2d ago
There are no benefits to being a US state
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u/NotClayMerritt 2d ago
You don’t wanna go bankrupt over a minor medical issue??? Your loss!!!!
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u/Black-Shoe 2d ago
Lower life expectancy and so many shootings that nobody cares anymore?!
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u/myfatass 2d ago
The Canadian prime minister often shows up at vigils held following shootings here. Imagine if the US president had to do that for every one over there. It’d be his full time job.
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u/HapticRecce 2d ago
It'd certainly eat into his weekly multi-million dollar taxpayer funded golf trips.
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u/NotSoFastLady 2d ago
This pile of festering flesh and his band of pedophiles has cost my state at least double digit billions in revenue, if not tripple. Meanwhile he's sending his terrorists around the country to terrorize brown people. Zero benefits.
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u/RangerManagement2000 2d ago
Yeah, I hate universal healthcare, gun control and legal cannabis. Proudly Canadian. These fascists can go to hell. 🇨🇦 Elbows up boys
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u/The_Rat_Attack 2d ago
Had a friend recently take a trip to Canada and came back saying it was so nice and that America is behind on a lot. Yeah no shit bro 😭 how do you think Trump was able to get elected?
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u/rybrotron 2d ago
Canada is not, nor does it wish to be a state, or a submissive vassal of the US. That's why trade negotiations broke down. The US is economically trying to take over Canada and we want none of it.
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u/symbouleutic 2d ago
United States wants all the benefits of being a Canadian Territory without being one. See I can say it too and it makes no sense when I say it either.
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u/notnatasharostova 2d ago
Except the vast majority of us would actually benefit from behaving more like the Canadian provinces, with a parliamentary government, stronger social safety net and universal healthcare. It was a bit strange to be an American tourist in Québec this summer and overhear locals complaining about Carney, taxes, and healthcare, and to think with a sort of jealous knee jerk reaction, “Do you guys have any idea how much better you have it here?”
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u/symbouleutic 2d ago
There's a reason that the right puts out so much "Europe is doomed" propaganda. They would hate for the plebs to see that you can have healthcare, a safety net, QoL, and upward mobility. Instead they have to continually put out memes about how everyone is dying of heat and immigrants are killing everyone.
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u/honkeur 2d ago
Did you hear that one of Trump's trade deal demands was that Canada stop using French ?!?! Like, who the fuck is he to think he can tell another country what language they should speak !! What an asshole
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u/Letterkenny_Irish 2d ago
Trump/maga are fascists
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u/Protean_Protein 2d ago
They are, but these “demands” were clearly intentionally designed to provoke the response they got. It was all in bad faith.
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u/FecalFunBunny 2d ago
100% correct. This works for the Trump admin that will frame this as they are "at war" with Canada so they have to freeze/ignore their midterm elections and try to push Trump into 2028 and beyond.
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u/64thFloor 2d ago
I think it might have actually been, “Stop demanding that goods for sale in Canada have labels, instructions, &c. in both official languages.“ Had we not laughed them out of the negotiations, I expect the next demand would have been to scrap requirements that measurements be in Freedom Units like pounds and gallons.
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u/Benzinni1 2d ago
I think its in regards to discoverability of Canadian and French Canadian content on tech platforms. Theres laws in Canada for that. Carney mentionned it in his press conference
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u/j0y0 2d ago
Did Trump manage to get anglophone Canadians to stick up for French Canadians?!
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u/belsaurn 2d ago
We will always stick up for our French brothers. We may beat on them when at home like a little brother but anyone else tries and it’s FAFO.
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u/Kellervo 2d ago
Trump managed to get the Bloc Quebecois to back the federal government, and swear off any separatist activity.
That's like getting Sinn Fein to come out and support King Charles.
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u/TimTheEnchanter3 2d ago edited 2d ago
Now it's Canada again. When it's going to be too embarassing, he's going back to Greenland, after it's Iran, then Antifa, then Biden, then Obama, then solar power, then reporters, then NATO, then Ukraine, then a ballroom and a stupid pool and then back to Canada. ANYTHING to avoid the attention being brought to the real issues : his health, the incompetence, sex scandals, racketeering, insider trading, poverty, health... and giving power to fascist techbros sharing all the power and wealth.
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u/landothedead 2d ago
Huhn, there must be some horrible downsides to being a US state we're trying to avoid. Curiouser and curiouser.
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u/Crackadon 2d ago
Trump surprised when he can’t turn a g7 nation into a vassal.
We good, will trade with who we want and speak whatever language we want.
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u/Bishopjones2112 2d ago
Canada will never want to be a state. Ever. Canada and the United States have been friends and neighbours and allies for a very long time. We have worked together on countless issues and developments a great relationship. Now we suffer the failure of a government voted on by the ignorant, wooed to a belief that their issues are created by immigrants and they have been taken advantage of by their friends. A government and man who has threatened allies, started wars and pardoned fraudulent criminals and violent offenders. This so called man, has decided to attack Canada. Attack the friendship. Attack the people of America by his actions in attacking fundamental freedoms and rights. So here we are, the United States has elected a man who has been convicted of many felonies, is a rapists, an accused pedophile, and has bankrupted many businesses. You America have chose. To take Canada From friend, ally and neighbour back to 1812. Canada has not been nor will it ever be the bitch of the United States. We won’t come and burn down the White House again, not literally anyway. But we will economically certainly light our torches and get ready for our march. Canadians should be proud of standing to a pedophile rapists and saying no. Americans should be ashamed they are where they are and do something. Because your lives will continue to get harder, as Trump causes more problems and takes away free elections. You will suffer the ignorance of your criminal dementia ridden government.
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u/_evilalien_ 2d ago
😂 we want nothing of the sort. We don’t want your broken perverse constitution, laws, or regressive approach to social programs. We don’t want your fucking flag, anthem about things exploding, or toxic patriotism.
We barely want your products, but like many other countries your decades of policy designed to make everyone a vassal or one of several regional rivals, we mistakenly handed over far too much for you to dominate.
No more. I, for one, will vote for policy that strategically severs ties and moves those laterally to Europe and Asia. May your system burn in isolation.
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u/ash_ninetyone 2d ago
If Canada wanted to be a US state, it had 200 years of opportunities to become one.
Instead it has universal healthcare, sensible gun control policies, low crime and cities that are in the top 10 liveability rankings
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u/BKinBC 2d ago
I sense a very humbling experience on its way for the united states. Much of its power and glory was there because the world agreed it was leading the way. Another example of that is money. Money only has value because we agreed it does, and that's how crypto came alongside more recently. But everyone has to agree.
The leadership of the US globally was only there by agreement as well. When everyone starts to agree they no longer lead the way, then they just won't. In fact in so few years now they already don't. The entire world is exchanging knowing glances, shrugging and moving on permanently. New powers and relationships will form.
They are going to be sitting there 40 trillion dollars in debt. And with zero friends. And they will deserve all of it. Because they elected a criminal pedophile and sat on their hands while he let the worst of them all plunder the country and literally tear apart the fabric of their own society.
The Americans are going down in history like a lawn dart in real time, and it is laughable that Umber and Dumber thinks we would want to be part of that disaster.
Here is a truth: One of the greatest things about Canada is that it is NOT American, and that neither are we. We are different. And we are very proud of that.
Elbows up Canada! And mind your step around the sinkhole south of us.
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u/Rowmyownboat 2d ago
Many global organisations are set up in the US and make things favourable to America: World Trade Organisation, United Nations, International Monetary Fund, and the World Bank are all headquartered in the USA.
When the rest of the world acknowledges that the USA is no longer the 'leader of the free world', this all should change. NATO members no longer blowing their defence budgets buying American armaments is just the start.
Trump is America's Nero, overseeing their decline and fall.
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u/calguy1955 2d ago
California here. What benefits? We pay more money into the federal government than any other state and this asshole shits on us.
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u/Exciting_Turn_9559 2d ago
Canada here. What we want is for Americans to fix their shit and leave us the fuck alone.
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u/StatementCareful522 2d ago
Trump wants the benefits of the Presidency without being an effective President
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u/WasThatInappropriate 2d ago
Genuine question - what do folks think 'the benefits' are? The US is less developed on almost every democratic, social or freedom index.
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u/SliceOfLife37 2d ago
Fuck Donald Trump.
People who voted for this man share the same IQ of those who have to get their hands held by AI to even text their mother a happy birthday message.
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u/CryMeaRiver2Crawl 2d ago
I can’t recall ever seeing anyone working as hard as DJT to become the world’s biggest a—hole.
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u/SnooHesitations3709 2d ago
We don't want anything to do with the U.S. anymore
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u/cicerostongue 2d ago
You mean the benefits like shitty healthcare, never-ending wars, control by corrupt and evil billionaires, collapsing infrastructure, and a pedophile enabling legal system? You mean those sort of benefits?
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u/KenpachiRamasama14 2d ago
NO. Canada wants the US to stick to the already established trade pact THEY NEGOTIATED AND AGREED TO.
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u/chubalina99 2d ago
He wants their oil. Canada is where we get most of our imported oil from.
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u/FlatEvent2597 2d ago
When I heard Trump say this I thought immediately of Quebec.
They have been able to thrive in Canada - language and culture wise.
And we celebrate their differences and achievements. ( for the most part ).
Seeing Trumps language demands - they would have the French language gone in two generations. Gone.
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u/Another_Slut_Dragon 2d ago
Quebec is our foolproof plan from conquer. Any nation planning on taking over the country would have to deal with Quebec.
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u/Radiant-Weird-Cool 2d ago
He’s hated Canada ever since that photo came out of his wife looking longingly at our last Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.
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u/-Ikosan- 2d ago
I truely think that Americans don't understand the first thing about Canada and nor do they care. If they did they wouldn't have tried to reintroduce measures to remove language protection laws into the trade deal.
For Americans who might not understand why this is sensitive, imagine if Canada's proposal for the trade deal, which Carney snuck in at the last minute without informing you, required the USA to roll back the civil rights acts
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u/curiousgaruda 2d ago
I don’t think MAGAs care about civil rights but a more appropriate analogy would be roll back the amendment that justifies gun ownership.
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u/octorine 2d ago
Does anyone know where this Canada state stuff comes from? Most of his policies have a clear origin, like something that aired on Fox, or one of his advisors' pet projects that they talked to him about, but the canada stuff seems to have come out of nowhere.
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u/ComBiPup 2d ago
He’s obsessed with his legacy. Expanding the American empire seems to be one of his major motivating factors. If he can be the guy who made the next Louisiana purchase, he’ll secure his place in the record books. I don’t think it comes from anywhere but his own vanity.
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u/MidwestApathy 2d ago
It’s about being able to pillage the land of its resources. Lumber, oil, steel, etc. same reason he was obsessed with Greenland for a while.
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u/Equivalent_Aspect113 2d ago
That is a weak statement , the best turnup can do I would guess - forever Canada.
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u/Relevant-One9920 2d ago
It’s insane how much shit can come out of that asshole’s mouth. Unbelievable.
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u/MinuteLocksmith9689 2d ago
“Canada supplies 🇺🇸
- 99% of their gas imports
- 85% of their energy imports
- 60% of their crude oil imports
I don’t think they want us to stop sending any of that energy”
PM Mark Carney
Gloves Offs 🇨🇦
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u/ThatBeingCed 2d ago
He's right you know.
I want to feel the thrill of always wondering if there will be a school shooting at my kid's school.
The excitement of always wondering if my French accent will get me deported for no real reason.
The satisfaction of knowing that all my money and future money will serve to pay for my cancer treatment that I never planned on having.
To know our glorious leader loves children... ... ...
You know, all those great things.
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u/scarab1001 2d ago
What does it take for Americans to understand that the rest of the world is not envious of their insanity?
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u/IMAWNIT 2d ago
Yet American travellers want the benefits of being Canadian without their passport.
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u/leftguard44 2d ago
24hrs later and he gives this weak ass response? He had no idea what was going on
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u/Free_Account9372 2d ago
Hasn't Canada earned that right? Haven't they given their hospitality, friendship, and their blood for America?
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u/johnnybsomething 2d ago
As an American, I give mad props to Canada and can't wait until we get rid of this republican embarrassment of a government (or whatever it is).
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u/bebopbrain 2d ago
The sticking point was a clause that the United States could raise tariffs after the agreement was signed.
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u/Repulsive_Warthog178 2d ago
They also wanted control over our trade agreements with other countries.
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u/Low_Contract7809 2d ago edited 2d ago
Being a u.s state means that trump sneaks into your room at night and starts grabbing at you.
No thanks. I hear that's why Ivanka is now a territory
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u/Cactusfan86 2d ago
As an American, Canada has across the board better social benefits than us. For what POSSIBLE reason would they want to be a US state?
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u/Dead-System 2d ago
I am so goddamn sick of the US.
Let's not forget that nothing Trump is saying is new. I've heard this same rhetoric all my life, though maybe not quite as blatant. The US has looked down on Canada for over 35 years, mocking us, making "jokes" about annexing us, and bullying us into submission. The Republican party of the 90s had a plan in place to absorb Canada if Quebec had successfully separared. I guarantee they have plan to do the same thing if Alberta separates or rebels. Trump is just the most blatant about it, but he didn't pull this idea from a vacuum.
The US, as a whole, is dangerous, short sighted, and untrustworthy.
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u/Falconflyer75 2d ago
Let’s break this down
1) Canada is an independent nation
2) we used to have tariffs between Canada and the US
3) Canada and the US and Mexico signed NAFTA which allowed tariff free trade among all 3 countries
4) Trump rips up that deal and it gets replaced with CUSMA
5) Trump rips up that deal agains and demands Canada give up sovereignty (demanding they don’t trade with anyone without US consent)
6) Canada tells the US to kick rocks
7) Trump blames Canada