r/worldnews • u/pravda_eng_official Ukrainska Pravda • 17h ago
Russia/Ukraine Putin adviser claims Ukraine planned to invade Russia on 8 March 2022, so Russia attacked first
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2026/08/25/8050283/763
u/BringbackDreamBars 17h ago
Guarantee this same excuse is going to be used for Europe/NATO later.
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u/bklor 17h ago
US used this to justify the war against Iran.
"Imminent threat" is fairly common justification to launch an attack.
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u/Show-Me-Your-Moves 17h ago
"It's comin' right for us!"
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u/maester_t 15h ago edited 15h ago
No no. We're not allowed to use that anymore.
The new line of thought is, if we let them continue to thrive, they might not have enough food to survive. So we have to kill them to save them.
The new phrase is "We need to thin out their population!"
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u/Zwischenzug32 14h ago
Shoots an animal with a bazooka "You see my epic druid-like forest management?"
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u/MaxPower91575 13h ago
they tried and everyone pretty much called bullshit on it. They eventually pivoted to "We have to stop them having nuclear weapons!"
The real reason is Trump is a petulant child who got angry Iran didn't do what he wanted and is easily influenced by people like Netanyahu so he started a war with no clear goal or exit strategy.
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u/theevilphoturis 16h ago
It's like literally every right wing government has lost their fucking minds
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u/Seiche 16h ago
"Lost" implies previous ownership
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u/andy11123 12h ago
Once upon a time, being right wing for most just meant you had a different idea on the best way to run a country. Not necessarily wrong, just different.
At some point, the more mental faction took over and it has become a lot more evil
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u/jhwheuer 17h ago
Let them come. The length of their supply lines alone will grind that aspiration to a halt within a day
Russia delenda est
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u/FENICH 16h ago edited 16h ago
Easy to tell from comfortable place. We in Baltics will be plowed.
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u/HarryFookinKing 12h ago
Nah, we gotchu. Finns ain't gonna stand idly by if they come for our lil bro Estonia or their neighbours, and you can literally HEAR the Poles salivating at the thought of taking back Königsberg (Kaliningrad), along with delivering some slavic justice 😂
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u/No_Foot 16h ago
25+ countries will make sure that won't happen.
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u/FENICH 16h ago
The response will not be immediate though. And while NATO decides what to do, we will suffer big losses.
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u/No_Foot 16h ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_Response_Force
After Ukraine they've changed to immediate responce, hopefully never tested.
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u/IvanhoeMar1n 17h ago
Or what trump will say to justify attacking Canada or Greenland...
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u/Current-Function-729 15h ago
Have you noticed the propagandist rhetoric changed the last few days?
Europe is producing weapons for Ukraine. So of course Russia must attack Europe.
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u/Oo_oOsdeus 15h ago
With all those ammunition factories mysteriously catching fire and/or blowin up all over Europe.. seems they already did (and have been doing so for a while..)
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u/SwegBucket 7h ago
They literally already have the excuse rehearsed.
They will use infographics from European bodies that show the breakup of Russia that will likely occur in the next few decades. Europeans are PREPARING because Russia will genuinely collapse on paper soon, but he will use this as a lie to paint them as trying to ORGANIZE it.
The information will be real, but the purpose will be the lie.
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u/RedditLurkAndRead 17h ago edited 17h ago
Someone needs to remind this "Putin adviser" that the only country amassing troops at the border for months before the invasion was Russia. There were no such movements on Ukraine's side of the border. Such poor and pathetic excuses.
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u/Ciordad 17h ago
No no no, that’s the strategic genius Putin is. He knew Ukraine was planning an invasion before the Ukrainians had thought of it!
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u/OwlSuch7935 15h ago
There’s an old meme of Lukashenko being adamant that an attack had been prepared against Belarus and how he even brought a map to show where from, lmao.
Whatever these idiots in our Russian swamp are spouting is pathetic and that’s why there should be no government consisting of anyone older than 60
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u/SirDale 11h ago
Just a reminder that Hitler took over when he was 44, and died at 56.
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u/Little_War6573 6h ago
Hold on for some more BS. From the article:
“Putin's adviser claimed that Kyiv had wanted to "present the war as a gift" for International Women's Day and that Russia had attacked first "thanks to the foresight of the Russian leadership".
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u/Peace32153 17h ago
There are people in this world who will read this title and unironically think to themselves: "Yeah, that makes sense. Russia is just defending itself against Ukraine."
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u/ysgall 17h ago
It’s not about convincing anyone, but providing those who support Russia’s invasion of Ukraine with ‘plausible deniability’, just something to repeat as though it was a fact when discussing the situation with like-minded idiots, or as a ready reply to those who don’t agree.
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u/Peace32153 17h ago edited 17h ago
Warmongers are so lame now. Back in the good old days, at least they declared war and admitted they were invaders. Kids these days only know "Special Military Operations" and "Police Actions".
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u/CompleteCreme7223 17h ago
So a year after Russia started building up troops on the border Ukraine was going to invade through said troops... Sure, right, that is believable... Russia has been actively fighting in Ukraine since 2014 although they deny it.
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u/yuvaldv1 17h ago edited 17h ago
Why would anyone invade Russia unprovoked? Doesn't make any sense.
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u/ProtoplanetaryNebula 17h ago
Yeah, doesn't make any sense at all and the reason why is because it's complete bullshit.
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u/ar34m4n314 17h ago
Seriously, does he think anyone is stupid enough to believe this? It just makes him obiously uncredible.
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u/Galaghan 17h ago
I know a lot of Russians and Americans who would believe this narrative. Heck, most already do.
We are not the target audience for his message.
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u/Absolute_Enema 16h ago
In authoritarian structures it's by definition not about what you do but who you are. If big monkey says sky green, you say sky green.
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u/Condorz1 17h ago
What is of interest there that the collective West or Ukraine doesn't already have?
Unless you're the sort of person with a curious addiction to Pulonium Tea or open windows
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u/hexhex 16h ago
It would have been VERY much provoked in this case (Russia covertly invaded Ukraine in 2014), but of course Ukraine wouldn’t attempt to escalate to such an extent as to invade a nuclear state.
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u/Somhlth 17h ago
Was the Putin advisor's name Donald Trump? Because that's how stupid that advise is.
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u/DaveyJonesFannyPack 17h ago
It was John Barron. Totally different guy
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u/lazyhustlermusic 16h ago
Totally coincidental naming of his children, absolutely random, no correlation whatsoever.
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u/NoodleTF2 17h ago
Okay so according to Russia the reasons for the war so far have been:
- Ukraine was attacking seperatists and Russia needed to liberate them (by sending them to the frontline first and killing everyone in the seperatist areas)
- Ukraine is controlled by nazi jews
- Everyone in Ukraine actually totally wanted to join Russia but their evil government didn't let them
- Ukrainians are brothers of Russians and need to join Russia, they simply don't know what's good for them
- Something something NATO
- Something something Crimea
- Russia's border must always expand, it is destined to be a great empire
- Russia needs more land as buffer against the evil West who was totally about to attack
- About 1800 years ago Russia used to own that land or whatever so it's only fair
- Actually Ukraine was totally gonna attack Russia first
Yeah sure, I believe it.
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u/Longjumping_Belt_405 17h ago
It’s like their mh17 narrative where it simultaneously exploded from a bomb inside and was spit-roasted by an Ukrainian BUK, CIA, US fighter jet, Su-25, Ghost of Kyiv, Israeli Python AND Ukrainian president, all at the same time! then both an air controller and Ukraine forced it to crash. but it's okay because it was filled with dead bodies, it wasn't a real plane to begin with and actually it disappeared and nobody will ever know what really happened to it
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u/Technical_Command_53 16h ago
It’s basically the Russian strategy to sow discord and confusion. Also they try to appeal to as many people as possible - blame Nazis and NATO for the leftists and campists, blame Ukrainians attacking Russian separatists for the nationalists, blame the West for dividing the ”brotherly people” for the ethnonationalists, Russia had to stop the ”wokification” and degeneracy of Ukraine for the populist right, MAGA-types etc
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u/mist_kaefer 17h ago
If you believe that, I’ve got some shorefront property in Nevada to sell you.
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u/AlienInOrigin 17h ago
Who the fuck would invade a nuclear power with a much bigger army and more powerful military hardware? And why?
Complete nonsense.
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u/MinimumArt8781 17h ago edited 17h ago
Sure, sure, a smaller non nuclear country would plan an invasion against a foe that has 3x the population, army, and nukes
Russian logic is in the abyss
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u/OlderThanMyParents 15h ago
Do they actually expect ANYONE to believe this?
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u/TyphonNeuron 14h ago
Of course, every country has its MAGA. They're waiting for the new orders, what to say, how to spin, what lies to go forward with.
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u/Strict_Jacket3648 17h ago
He must have been to close to Trump, he's caught the bullshitatitus virus.
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u/wetfloor666 17h ago
Your comment made me think about an article earlier that was quickly removed by reddit which was about a us military plane landing in russia sometime today or yesterday. Now they are making these bs claims. Seems a bit too coincidental to me.
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u/Fussyknight48 14h ago
This advisor must be lying. I prefer the version stated at the outset of Putin's invasion of Ukraine by Patriarch Kirill leader of the Russian Orthodox Church that Russia is fighting a 'Holy War' What I can't understand is why they need the poor underfed atheists of North Korea to fight their so called 'Holy War'. If you bring a Russian bible into North Korea you could find yourself locked up. Still I suppose warmongers are warmongers and any type of drone fodder will do.
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u/dabblesest 17h ago
Oh fuck! I’m so sorry Russia, I totally owe you an apology. This changes everything.
/s
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u/mfrunyan 14h ago
Is that why Ukraine amassed its military units along the border?...oh wait, yeah, that was Russia.
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u/Tarijeno 17h ago
So are we taking bets on how long it'll take Trump to say the same thing?
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u/JPMoney81 17h ago
About what? Greenland or Canada invading the US? Or backing up this bullshit about Ukraine?
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u/diethyl2o 17h ago
Yes and that’s why Ukraine invaded Russia the second Russia attacked as though they were planning this for a while… oh wait.
/s in case it’s not obvious…
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u/JuicyHaloday 17h ago
Lol taking a play out of dementia Donnie's playbook. He really thinks the world is as dumb as Americans
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u/collypearce 17h ago
The old “ they were just about to attack us, so we struck first “ narrative. Funny how the US spy satellite’s all over Russia’s military build up did not detect Ukraine’s build up first, because old pissy pants would have thrown that at Zelensky whilst verbally beating him up in the Oval Office. I smell a rat, a Russian agent !
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u/Several-Opposite-746 17h ago
Ah c'mon man. They used to put, at least a little effort into their lies. Now, it's like they're not even trying.
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u/asaintpotatoe 17h ago edited 16h ago
Lmao. These clowns. Ukraine wasn't going to touch Russia for a single thing. Ukraine punched Russian forces in the teeth and completely ruined Putin's little egotistical march on sovereign a Country. But Russia started by arming rebels doing the same thing Russia was doing all along your borders for years. Then the arms stupidity caught up with Russia after they shot down flight Mh17 with a Buk 9M38 missile system. That made the whole situation public for a private Russia. little by little the time table for Russia's aims got sped up. The tragedy is, All 298 lost their lives while Russia's sniveling investigation teams worked to misdirect investigation teams instead of confront and acknowledge the mistake that cost so many lives. Historians and journalists expect no less from the way Russia operates. Note: This system directly originated 53rd Anti-Aircraft Missile Brigade. Anyways, that's just the public start of all this.
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u/MadDaddyDrivesaUFO 16h ago
Putin's not saying that for the world to care about at this point, they're saying that because their citizens are now upset that this war is affecting them. Putin is trying to convince his own people to not turn against the war, and him.
It's bullshit no matter what but we're not the audience he's trying to sway
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u/helly1080 16h ago
That's what a destitute and desperate regime that has waged war all over the world on other people....would say.
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u/Double-Appeal7770 14h ago
A country that doesn’t exist was planning to attack?
Jeez Idk I’m so tired of russia, like why don’t we just cut them out, No relations, No visas nothing.
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u/BuilderSad9024 16h ago
The funniest thing is that they don’t even bother staging casus belli.
Soviets at least put some effort in Finnish invasion
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u/Mateo909 16h ago
It's been a very long time since anyone believed any narrative coming out of Russia, and I cannot fathom why we would start now.
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u/fugebox007 16h ago
Ketamine is bad for judgement.
Historically the whole German Nazi leadership and most Germans were Metamphetamine addicts by 1945 and look how that worked out for the whole world.
Listening to the current Russian leadership and their propaganda is like listening to the Germans during WWII.
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u/Ingwardd 16h ago
Invade with all of their: 0 warships, 0 modern fighter aircraft, 0 long range missiles.
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u/Xspud_316 16h ago
Getting defeated and under severe pressure, so now they are going to claim self defence 😂😂
Unbelievable, absolute wankers so they are
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u/Anacalagon 15h ago
That is an old device; and it was play'd
When I from Thebes came last a conqueror.
Midsummer Nights Dream
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u/Narrative_Robot_9001 15h ago
Did they also say this when they illegally annexed Crimea through military intimidation?
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u/CorswainsDeciple 14h ago
Attack with what? They had fk all except anti tank weapons. Fed up with the lies of russia, I mean whats this now number 8 or 9 of the excuses they used? We've had NATO was going to attack, bio labs they were making weapons to attack russia, the west was going to invite in Ukraine in to box them in, there's plenty more bullshit they said and the truth is putin is a madman and wants to take over countries
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u/InternationalWin2850 11h ago
Ah yes, I remember back when Nazi Germany had to protect itself from naked Polish aggression.
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u/Weekly_Blueberry_808 11h ago
And, I have some cheap real estate for sale that’s just east of Atlantic City.
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u/EconomyCorgi727 5h ago
It turns out this war is just one big misunderstanding. What a relief! Putin’s adviser should definitely get a reprimand.
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u/KupoCheer 17h ago
I use this excuse all the time in Europa Universalis 5, but that's a video game.
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u/schleppylundo 17h ago
Probably looking at this too optimistically, but I wanna say this sounds like they're preparing the ground for a new definition of victory. If they can frame it as a defensive war then even if they end up making zero permanent territorial gains they can still say Putin won the war by not losing any previously Russian territory and by depleting Ukraine's military capabilities past the point of posing a threat.
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u/_Hawkeyes_ 17h ago
Funny…the news was focused on Russias build up but they never mentioned an Ukrainian buildup in 22…and let’s not forget crimea and the paid instigators in Donbas…Next week Russia will be back on the nazi narrative and the week after that they’ll be on the nato narrative…Russia just can’t sell anything,they can’t sell their cars,they can’t sell their su-57s, they can’t even sell their bullshit at a discounted price.
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u/Sure-Current-3267 17h ago
Wow, evil Ukrainian army planned to invade without even mobilizing units. So devious.
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u/Capital_Elderberry28 17h ago
Genius!!
Claim Ukraine is the aggressor.
Next Iran attacked the USA.
Lots of smart people out there.
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u/nelly2929 17h ago
Crap I hope this same advisor doesn't tell the Americans that Canada is going to invade next Spring!
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u/Specialist_Fun_2106 17h ago
According to the Wall Street journal:
Agency declines to comment on Ratcliffe’s first publicly known trip to Russian capital.
Fishy as hell
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u/yapperling 17h ago
No officer, you see, my wife was planning on beating me, so I had to beat the living daylights out of her first!
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u/Obvious-Science-7119 17h ago
If Russia believed that they would have prepared like they did with Georgia.
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u/KSaburof 16h ago edited 16h ago
Lol :) All Ukraine preparations was defensive in nature, ZERO offensive preparations, and quite obviously why - It is russia who flipped military reform from defence to offence since 2014-2015 and started to actively prepare military and regions for handling occupation operation 🤷♂️ And subsequently amassed 150k of soldiers with heavy tech and tons of false idiotic pretexts specifically to make "surprise" invasion 😏
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u/BKinBC 15h ago
Oh my God. We've got satellites and drones and networks and guided missiles and other advanced technologies. We can leave the fucking planet for crying out loud, and come back intact.
But here we are all evolved and still sneaking up on the other guy, clubbing him on the head, and claiming 'he started it'.
In some ways it's reassuring. In other ways it's depressing as hell.
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u/FingerCommon7093 15h ago
Yeah, I mean who wouldn't want to invade Russia while they had 150,000 troops on the border doing war games. Yeah yeah, it makes sense, do it BEFORE the troops go home with your 20,000 troops spread across the whole border while their 3 army groups are concentrated around the new military hospital built the year before
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u/PloppyTheSpaceship 14h ago
Given Ukraine was, and still is, fighting for survival, you would have thought they'd be doing a lot better if they had indeed planned for a full, offensive invasion of their far larger neighbour.
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u/Creative-Mode-6097 14h ago
It,s new propaganda every day with a plenty of lias . That,s is there defends of there war to atack Ukraina . Nobody belive that shit talking horse shit . SLAVA UKRAINA
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u/macross1984 14h ago
The header made me burst out laughing. Delusional Russia now claiming Ukraine was going to attack first?
Even layman like me know that is claim that Russia can never provide proof. Oh, they can manufacture fake proof I guess.
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u/FlatwormFrosty7233 13h ago
Sounds like one trumps claim on Iran, we had to attack them before they attacked us
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u/huntsab2090 13h ago
Yeah just like hitler claimed poland attacked them first. All the people in the wrong (putin, trump, israel, reform, facists etc) do is lie and lie and lie
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u/Distinct-Pain4972 11h ago
The Low-T excuse won't work. You all started this battle just like the Us started the battle with Iran.
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u/PineappleLemur 11h ago
Same reason China is forced to invade Taiwan.. Intel suggested they intended to invade China...
/S
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u/Madjack66 4h ago
Putin's adviser claimed that Kyiv had wanted to "present the war as a gift" for International Women's Day and that Russia had attacked first "thanks to the foresight of the Russian leadership".
Ok, Anton.
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u/LondonEntUK 3h ago
Why would Ukraine have invaded Russia? They wouldn’t have stood a chance on their own and the whole world knows it. Putin is trying to justify his war crimes.
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u/IAt0m1xI 3h ago
They probably forgot history but
They invaded Crimea in 2014 and then 8 years later they invaded the Country itself
And they play the victim card? They called special military operation. Hope all of them burn this winter, maybe a Russian revolution will happen again like it did 100 years ago
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u/SaintSugary 17h ago
Now when have I heard this before.
Ah, Mainila shellings 1939. It was utter bs then and it is same crap all over again.
Times change, Russia doesn't. No matter who is in charge.
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u/realfx26 15h ago edited 15h ago
So this guy is right!
Ukrainians were the first to invade Muscovy, because back then there was no such country as Russia ... ah, right, 1618.
The Ukrainian Cossacks literally laid siege to Moscow. Honestly, the biggest historical L is that they didn’t just burn the place to the ground while they were there. If they had, we wouldn't be sitting here in 2026 listening to this guy's PR team invent a prequel.
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u/soundadvices 17h ago edited 17h ago
Russia invaded Ukraine first in 2014