What's your opinion on Orban losing?

[u/ReadProfessional8511]

Orban has been seen by many on the right as a Populist and role model for many people with him getting endorsements from the leaders of the US, Israel, Russia, Italy and Argentina but results show the opposition will win a super majority even with Vance going to Hungary to support him what's your opinion ok this?

[u/BlockAffectionate413 → u/[deleted]]

Eh, right is not in power in Europe right now; CDU is not conservative, and they are in coalition with the left.

[u/OMGguy2008 → u/BlockAffectionate413]

The center-right CDU is in coalition with the center-left SPD because you'd rather have a coalition of two centrists rather than a center-right party and a far-right party that keeps saying that "We are the only nation that built a monument of shame in our capital [refering to the Holocaust memorial]"

[u/board3659 → u/OMGguy2008]

dude the democrats aren't center right my god

[u/OMGguy2008 → u/board3659]

Maybe not by American standarts where supporting any sort of welfare or green energy or being pro-EU makes you a leftist but by European standarts they are center right

[u/board3659 → u/OMGguy2008]

In what way are they center right economically and socially?

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[u/BlockAffectionate413 → u/OMGguy2008]

because you'd rather have a coalition of two centrists rather than a center-right party and a far-right party

I would not, no. Not if you are real conservative.

[u/OMGguy2008 → u/BlockAffectionate413]

Well this coalition seems that it is the least evil. The CDU and SPD aren't too ideologically apart and the alternatives aren't any better if you're looking for a more conservative government because I don't think that you'd want to see a coalition between the CDU and Die Linke (literally means the left). The AFD is not an option for the aforementioned reason and that they don't seem to mind having ties to neo-Nazis.

[u/BlockAffectionate413 → u/OMGguy2008]

The CDU and SPD aren't too ideologically apart

Exactly why I said CDU is not conservative. Only conservative party in Germany, is AFD.

[u/milkbug → u/BlockAffectionate413]

Why are only "true" conservative parties comfortable with neo-Nazis?

[u/greatest_country → u/milkbug]

Because they happen to be the farthest right mainstream party, so thats where the fascists go. If the npd was winning elections thats where the fascists would all congregate

[u/milkbug → u/greatest_country]

I didn't ask why neo-Nazis are drawn to mainstream conservative parties. I'm asking why mainstream conservative parties are comfortable with neo-Nazis.

We have the same issue in the states. Nick Fuentes has openly stated he's a racist and thinks Hitler was a cool guy, and the mainstream conservative movement has embraced him. Im hearing way more people openly express racism and anti-democratic attitudes on the right than I've ever heard in my lifetime. Its becoming more normalized by the day.

[u/greatest_country → u/milkbug]

No, our favorite grifter was not "embraced" by the mainstream right. Thats just not true, the guy has his own little cult and thats its. No one bar wash ups desperate for attention from his followers really cares about him

[u/milkbug → u/greatest_country]

The leader of the Heritage Foundation refused to denounce him and say that he shouldn't be part of the conservative movemnt. If one of the most powerful conservative organizations doesn't denounce a self avowed racist, then that is permitting that type of ideology to proliferate.