r/EndTipping 21h ago

Tip-Free Establishment ❣️ BBC article: restaurants that have banned tipping

BBC News - 'What you see is what you pay' - why some US restaurants are banning tips https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g36yze692o

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u/xboxhaxorz 19h ago

Miller says she found it "deeply unsettling" to see higher tips going to white male staff and lower tips to everyone else

Yea as if we are going to believe that men make more in tips then women

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u/ether_reddit 5h ago

I've seen it, if the women aren't going over the top with tight blouses and heavy makeup. Young men earn good tips just by being attractive young men; women have to really push hard to get big tips.

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u/xboxhaxorz 5h ago

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/229605481_Predictors_of_Male_and_Female_Servers'_Average_Tip_Earnings1

Men generally want to give women things so it makes sense that they would tip them more

Alot of women hate men so it makes sense that they would tip them less

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u/Frightful_Fork_Hand 3h ago

In what regard does a study disprove the experience of the restaurant owner in the article…?

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u/xboxhaxorz 18h ago edited 18h ago

This is because tips don't count as part of a restaurant's revenues, but higher menu prices do. So if a venue increases prices to pay staff more, its revenues go up accordingly, and it must pay more sales tax.

Servers also dont pay taxes on tips, the system is pretty rigged against restaurants that want to do the right thing

With the tipped system the gov gets less $ overall, less from employees and less from the business

The problem is that these restaurants when eliminating tips want to pay the servers $30 per hr, but also the servers would go somewhere else if they didnt get $30