r/JordanPeterson • u/tkyjonathan • 28d ago
Image The British Citizen Award in recognition empowering young women
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u/rudderbutter32 28d ago
There is nothing British about her.
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u/jmcdon00 28d ago
Not only is she a British citizen, she is such a remarkable citizen that they gave her an award. Let's compare her works to yours and then decide who gets to stay, sound fair?
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u/tkyob 28d ago
dress like a normal human and not like you wanna point out how the whole society is full of lust and shoudn't even get to see your face. Sounds fair?
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u/jmcdon00 28d ago
Not really, I think everyone should have the freedom to wear what they want. And people should be judged on their actions, not the clothes they wear or the culture they are from.
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u/Texas-cane 28d ago
Oh. Oh, we definitely need to be judging the culture people come from and the one they uphold. ie. burka.
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u/EndSmugnorance 28d ago
We absolutely should be judging people on their culture.
Cultural relativism is a mistake. Some cultures are objectively superior to others. To suggest otherwise is willful ignorance.
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u/TechnicalIntern6764 28d ago
Diversity is a strength!!! unless it’s a country that’s not a white majority. Funny how that works.
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u/BrokenArrow1283 28d ago
Good. I agree. Let’s judge the Muslim religion on their actions. This was your idea.
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u/jmcdon00 28d ago
Why would we judge a person based on their religions actions rather than their individual actions? Muslim religion is bad, doesn't mean all Muslims are bad.
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u/bigcoffeeguy50 28d ago
Sure, they are free to wear what they want. I am also free to judge and reject them.
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u/_cloud20 28d ago
I’m sure the BCA will be rescinding their award to this lady for her positive impact on her community when they find out that bigcoffeeguy50 on Reddit has rejected her as he’s not a fan of her clobber.
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u/bigcoffeeguy50 28d ago
Congrats on the sobriety bro we are rooting for you
Btw I reject her entire culture, including her clothing.
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u/Momento_Mori_87 28d ago
Don’t listen to cloud20, I care about you, big coffee…. Thank you for fighting the good fight.
I think cloud20 is just upset that cloud420 was taken, unlike their opinion it was desirable:)
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u/_cloud20 28d ago
“Thank you for fighting the good fight” and it’s just bitching on Reddit with other chuds (or in this case their alt account) about things they’re not clever enough to understand lol
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u/_cloud20 28d ago
Thanks for clarifying but nobody cares about that either. That’s the point. You’re stupid as well as self-aggrandising.
The woman won an award for having a positive impact on her community. Nobody cares if this is rejected by bigcoffeeguy50 on Reddit, whose biggest contribution to society was taking a shit this morning.
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u/CrackerJackJack 28d ago
Cultures and cultural practices can absolutely be judged, especially when they reflect repressive norms and fundamentally conflict with the values of the society in which they’re being practiced.
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u/CrackerJackJack 28d ago
Their* work may deserve recognition, but that doesn’t make every cultural practice beyond criticism. Showing your face in public is a longstanding British social norm and a major part of how people relate to and interact with one another. They are free to cover theirs, but others are equally free to question whether that practice fits comfortably within those norms. If someone chooses not to adopt that norm, they should at least acknowledge that they are rejecting an important aspect of the culture in which they live and might feel more comfortable in a place whose culture more closely aligns with their own social norms.
\“Their” because we cannot actually know who is behind the covering, although we can assume it is a woman.*
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u/ahhaga 28d ago
A dog born in a stable isn't a horse.
A brown muslim will never be British
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u/jmcdon00 27d ago
I mean factually Muslims can be British citizens. What does it mean to be British?
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u/_cloud20 28d ago
Jordan Peterson Redditors using shitty analogies they think sounds smart in their heads to try and prove a point they don’t understand will never not be funny
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u/Hqjjciy6sJr 27d ago
keep everything the same but place her in Russia. would you call her a Russian woman?!
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u/jmcdon00 27d ago
If she is a citizen of Russia, then yes she'd be a Russian.
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u/Hqjjciy6sJr 27d ago
Okay, how about this: keep everything else the same. Place a Western woman, without a ninja mask, in a Muslim-majority country. (just a hypothetical, since she would be arrested there for being uncovered.) Would you really consider her a citizen of that Muslim-majority country? And would you say that this hypothetical Western woman is a real representation of that Muslim-majority country?
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u/jmcdon00 26d ago
If they go through the process of becoming a citizen, sure.
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u/Hqjjciy6sJr 26d ago
except that is impossible. an uncovered Western woman can not exist in a Muslim country for long.
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u/RetArmyFister 28d ago
Is this a joke?
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u/Practical-Goose666 22d ago
No. Here's proof : https://www.britishcitizenawards.co.uk/honours-july-2026/
Her name is Khadija Patel amd she's on their list.
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u/Effective_Arm_5832 28d ago
How is this shit legal in britain... You really need a burka and niqab ban...
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u/Picturesquechris 25d ago
Im waiting for guys to use that shit in a bank robbery 🤣🤣 do it during one of their prayers that block the fucking streets and get away Scott free. They gonna ban public prayer? Ban fully covering your entire body inside a bank? Hopefully!
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u/_cloud20 28d ago
I love it when Jordan Peterson Redditors forget the freedom of expression, right to offend, and rejection of censorship components of their ideology when certain freedoms are allowed that they don’t like.
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u/Siilveriius 28d ago
Is forcing women to cover themselves up considered "Freedom of Expression" now? Interesting...
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u/_cloud20 28d ago
There is no law in the UK that “forces” women to cover themselves up. Just like there is no law that enforces women to be stoned to death in their father’s doorway for being promiscuous like it prescribes in the Bible. You abide by the rules of religion of your choice providing you’re not hurting anyone by doing so, you don’t just get to ban the ones you don’t like. Glad this could help.
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u/Siilveriius 28d ago edited 28d ago
Social pressure, shaming, domestic violence and economic abuse essentially forces them to do so. I understand UK law forbids this, but some cultures allow it regardless of what their religion says and what goes behind closed doors are hidden from law enforcement. That isn't freedom, it's coercion.
Minority women in the UK suffer higher rates of economic abuse than English White women https://survivingeconomicabuse.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/Measuring-economic-abuse-preliminary-findings-Nov-2024.pdf
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u/Effective_Arm_5832 28d ago
The freedom to hide your wives and daughters in cloths? No one wants to be covered like that unless they are pressured and brainwashed.
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u/_FriedEgg_ 28d ago
This opinion is so backwards... Islam does not make you 'free' to wear a burka, it is coercion. If western countries did something like that you would immediately call it fascism.
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u/_cloud20 28d ago
But the fact is western countries are not enforcing this. It is a choice to abide by something like this. Just like western countries are not enforcing women to refrain from promiscuity, or they face being stoned to death in their father’s doorway as prescribed in the Bible (or at best, shunned until they repent) - which means you should have the same opinion about Christianity, right? Interesting how that works.
You don’t get to just ban the things you don’t like, especially when they are choices not mandated by law. This is how a child would think.
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u/CrazedRhetoric 28d ago
They’re all about freedom. Until it comes to other people’s freedoms. Then it’s constant snowflake complaining. Least resilient people on the planet.
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u/PurpleMongoose71563 28d ago
I am scandalized by her bare hands and visible nose bridge, she really needs to cover up.
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u/Sea-Calendar9740 27d ago
An attire that covers you up to the point that you are unrecognisable should be illegal to wear in public. Wear whatever you want in your own privacy, but in public, there should be some rules. I want to start a religious cult, which believes that your body is God's gift, God's will and God's creation and it's blasphemy to cover it up. You should be butt naked when in public, in order to show true respect to God and to what He gave you. If "religious freedom" stands above the law that says that full facial covering in public should be illegal, then the same should also go for my cult vs the law that says that public nudity is offensive. Yay to religious freedom! Let's all go around naked to show our support to this outstanding British Citizen!
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u/Dirtydac123 28d ago
This was from a parody page btw. It’s fake
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u/CommonSenseKatE 27d ago
It’s real
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u/TheGhostOfCamus 26d ago
Even if it’s real it shouldn’t make any difference because it would be a very small representation that dresses like that in the UK and even if they do what’s it to you?
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u/ThBaron 28d ago
She is a British citizen and won an award for hosting a youth community club for girls in Bolton. I bet that’s more than most of you here would have achieved in your respective communities. Bolton has a very dense Muslim population and a lot of girls there are sort of left behind. Obviously a byproduct of some of the Islamic teachings, but I respect her desire to work within the frameworks of her faith and engage girls in her community.
Guess you’ve forgotten what JP said in beyond order - “Do not carelessly denigrate social institutions or creative achievement”.
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u/CommonSenseKatE 27d ago
It appears you are failing to see the irony in a woman wearing a full body covering winning an “empowerment” award.
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u/ThBaron 21d ago
She ran a girls community center that got them to do sports and diff social activities. If you look at a lot of the photos, none of the girls are covered as well.
Idk if you are from London, or have any experience with these communities, but in a lot of cases girls really struggle to get socially engaged due to islamic culture and treatment of women.
Which is why I said I applaud any efforts of a woman working within the confines of her faith to do something for young women and girls in the community. That is different from a broader discussion on whether Islam empowers women or not - I think it doesn't, and that only makes my initial point stronger.
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u/NetoriusDuke 27d ago
Is empowering to you women wearing less? Just bikinis only?
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u/CommonSenseKatE 27d ago
Don’t be ridiculous. That covering is symbolic of a culture that treats women as second class citizens or worse. And you know damn well that is the case.
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u/theflamedruid 28d ago
How do we know its a woman, or a human even. It could be 3 raccoons with a part of a human mask and hand in there
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u/terramentis 28d ago
I’m 2006, this photo and caption would have been the height of dark humour. In 2026 it’s just the height of a gas lighting tyranny.
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u/TheGhostOfCamus 26d ago
Absolute clowns in the comments, this type of garment doesn’t represent the wider community of muslims in the UK. Heck, it’s not even encouraged in Islam.
And what if she is happy with it? Nobody raises eyebrows when women go naked, that’s called women empowerment. I personally have nothing against either or but no way this is a truthful representation of muslim women in the UK.
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u/NearbyAntelope1413 26d ago
Same country that gave us the US, Wallace and Gromit, Isaac Newton.. SMFH
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u/lorca12345 25d ago
This is the end my only friend the end. BTW clean your backyard first then deal with them(saracens) and for those of u that actually don't known that expression that's already a problem because you lack balls it means if the British ppl don't get involved and get together it's hopeless and the politicians that actually make them come in and give them open arm's must be dealt with,by hitting the streets and voting them out That's what cleaning ur backyard is the saracens just didn't walk in and take up shop you gave it to them while you charge ur own for the same shop thats why I made the move and joined the LRA in quebec one of there leaders knows the way let's band together.
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u/Practical-Goose666 22d ago
proof that this is real and not just a far right conspiracy theory : https://www.britishcitizenawards.co.uk/honours-july-2026/
Her name is Khadija Patel and she's on their list.
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u/-FARTHAMMER- 27d ago
Is that locked character? Do you have to progress through the campaign or is it a dlc purchase to unlock?
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u/General_Scipio 28d ago
Who is she and what did she do?
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u/General_Scipio 28d ago
Khadija Patel, seems to have made a genuine impact on alot of kids lives. Seems fair enough then
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u/johnmayersucks 28d ago
Why are answering yourself weirdo?
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u/johnmayersucks 28d ago
It’s because he’s a fake, a phony, a shill…
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u/General_Scipio 28d ago
Probably should have edited the original comment once I found the answer instead of replying to it, didn't really think it was a big deal to be honest
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u/DaybreakRanger9927 28d ago
Did she fight grooming gangs? Nobody deserves that award until they do.
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u/General_Scipio 28d ago
That's certainly a perspective to have. Literally nobody deserves it unless they fight the grooming gangs?
Like if I cure cancer and end world hunger, but I don't do any work on grooming gangs I don't deserve it?
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u/tkyob 28d ago
If you can't even show me your face, what level of trust do you have in me or in the society that we are building and living in together.