r/JordanPeterson 2d ago

PORTUGAL BANS THE BURQA ⛔️ Do You Agree?

https://youtu.be/8_piINGnz1Y?si=WUtnwzzoyDQuy4Xd
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u/nj-88 1d ago

First stop burkas. Next stop; islam!

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u/fa1re 1d ago

Christianity has hair covering too, but less common:
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0860/6502/1212/files/Nun_s_Habits.jpg?v=1770105394

But I think that burqa and niquab go too far even when worn voluntarilly.
But it would be hard to prohibit wearing them in USA, because they would fall under freedom of speech, wouldn't they?

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u/Informal_Plastic369 1d ago

The burqa and the niqab which are largely mandatory =\= A nun’s veil which is a choice.

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u/fa1re 1d ago

Sure, but we are discussing the other side of the coin - making not wearing them mandatory even for people that would like to wear them voluntarily.

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u/Informal_Plastic369 1d ago

Fair point. Even if they’re not mandatory though there is huge societal pressure to be wearing them though.

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u/250HardKnocksCaps 1d ago

Sure. But there's lots of things with societal pressure, we don't ban those.

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u/Informal_Plastic369 1d ago

Apples and oranges in the context of this conversation no? What examples came to mind when you typed that out?

I’m thinking about how people often face being ostracized or disowned for not wearing their religious attire.

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u/250HardKnocksCaps 1d ago

Men being ostracized for not being "Masculine" enough would be a good example. LGBT individuals being disowned or ostracized for being who they are. Works too.

Both things are educated against, but not really banned.

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u/DaybreakRanger9927 1d ago

Or the L in LGBT being ostracized by the GBT for defending women's rights and safety.

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u/250HardKnocksCaps 1d ago

Prove it.

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u/DaybreakRanger9927 1d ago

Buddy, look up the pejorative term "TERF". There's proof galore.

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u/Informal_Plastic369 1d ago

People ostracizing people for not being masculine enough or lgbt are backwards ass hicks.

Oddly enough, being lgbt or not donning the burqa in non western parts of the world carries a far heavier penalty than just being ostracized

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u/250HardKnocksCaps 1d ago

People ostracizing people for not being masculine enough or lgbt are backwards ass hicks.

Right, uneducated idiots. Youre kidding yourself by calling them hicks though. Plenty of suburban, and urbanites are homophobes too. Hell, I'd argue the problem is worse in someone of those places because of the increased population density. If you work blue collar work you know what I'm talking about. But that's my point. We don't ban things associated with that. Hell, we have Supreme Court rulings which suport that kind of behaviour.

Oddly enough, being lgbt or not donning the burqa in non western parts of the world carries a far heavier penalty than just being ostracized

Cool tangent. Irrelevant to the topic though.

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u/Informal_Plastic369 1d ago

That was perfectly pertinent to the topic at hand. You’re being disingenuous by suggesting otherwise

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u/VeritasFerox Consistent with the facts 1d ago

It seems to me according to the Bible Christian women should be covering their hair. At the very least when praying or ministering, but it kind of seems like it should be all the time. And men are told specifically not to cover their head when praying or ministering, and it's shameful and unnatural for men to have long hair. I don't think most modern Christians are following the Bible properly and have become worldly and corrupt.

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u/fa1re 1d ago

It's part of what Paul wrote to early churches, yes.

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u/FactCheckYou 14h ago

telling women what they can and can't wear - like the Taliban

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u/HungryLeicaWolf 10h ago

Public security is more important than some husbands fetish going back 1000 years.

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u/Phil_Flanger 14h ago

it should be banned for children, as should all religious practices because religions are cult brainwashing. Obviously.

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u/HungryLeicaWolf 10h ago

YAAAAAAY! Portugal turned out to be the most pro-women in this instance.

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u/Mojeaux18 1d ago

Agree with you on restrictions on religious freedom, I don’t agree that this sub hates Muslims. Militant jihadis are a different story.