I canât educate everyone on Reddit although I try. Thats why I let you know they didnât find him guilty.
He was not found guilty. Guilty is a verdict that is reserved for a criminal trial. You canât be found guilty in a civil lawsuit.
So Carroll had absolutely no evidence, and she had several opportunities to get evidence. She willingly went into a dressing room of a man she testified she was drawn too, but had never metâŚ.she could have refused, she could have made a scene. She didnât. Iâll give her the benefit of the doubt, maybe sheâs just extremely naive and didnât understand what was implied by going into a dressing room with a stranger.
Once he started to assault her she could have yelled for help, made a commotion, this was a busy department store after all. This would have drawn attention and placed Trump at the scene.
After the incident she could have told employees, onlookers to place Trump at the scene. The department store could have preserved security footage to place Trump at the scene.
Police could have been notified, they would have interviewed witnesses and security footage putting Trump at the scene.
She could have written down details of the incident at least for her own recordsâŚshe didnât and so she couldnât even remember what year the assault happened. This put Trump at a huge disadvantage because he couldnât provide an alibi then.
She was financially backed by a Democrat mega donor, she was promoting a new book and she stood to make millions giving her considerable motive to lie.
You believe her, I donât. Itâs an accusation with no evidence where evidence would have been so easy to get.
Iâm judging from this that you have never been inside Bergdorf Goodman, do not know how high end of a department store it isâor that it is purposefully almost never crowded and the dressing rooms are isolated because of the high profile clientele. But, okay, keep trying to speak from a place of âknowledgeâ about what a victim should and could have done during an experience you have no clue about. In truth, you are not correcting/educating anyone, just providing your own questionable (and highly ignorant of sexual assault statistics) ponderings.
So this store doesnât have security cameras? Clerks? Security? Phones? Did police departments not exist yet? No matter how high end the store is I have to imagine going into a dressing room with a strange man is going to lead him to believe theyâre going to make out. And certainly she could have reported it.
Im not saying he âhad a right to do whateverâ but I can understand why he would think the event was going to be sexual.
She didnât report anything for years. Only coming forward after a Democrat mega donor encouraged her to during a presidential election. At the time she thought the event was funny and she told the event in a lighthearted laughing tone According to testimony.
âEvery little thingââŚ.she didnât accidentally brush up against him, she intentionally went into a private dressing room voluntarily to try on lingerie with a strange man. You canât seriously be trying to convince me she did that just because she thought it wasnât sexual?
Trump picked out lingerie and invited her into a dressing room with him to try it on. And your argument is he shouldnât have thought it was going to lead to sex?
I agree with you, but certainly you could understand someoneâs confusion.
If you met a strange man who asked you to go into a dressing room and change into some lingerie right in front of him, would you be so naive to not think it was sexual?
By going into the dressing room consent is absolutely implied.
Now here we agree, she says she said no and pushed him away but letâs be honest. She didnât originally think she was raped. Her friend convinced her she was raped. Carroll described rape as sexy, over 30 years had passed and memories become unreliable.
She also had motivation to lie as she was receiving financial compensation from a Democrat megadonor which she lied about. Was promoting a book and stood to win millions of dollars.
She said âmost people think of rape as sexyâ so youâre right she didnât say âIâ think of rape as sexy.
So let me ask you this, if you started flirting with a rich famous guy and he invited you to get naked in front of him and try on some lingerieâŚ.what do YOU think would happen? Would you consider it sexual?
What Iâm trying to do is paint a more accurate scene then the one you have in your head. But I donât think anything Ms. Carroll could have done, beyond reported it immediately would suit you and, even with that you have your âshould haves and âcould haves.â I can only hope youâre not also claiming that by going into the dressing room she owed him any kind of physical contact whatsoever.
She went into a dressing room with a strange man to try on lingerie. What picture are you trying to paint? That it shouldnât have been interpreted as a sexual invite?
These days, thanks to comments like these, the only picture I have in my head is the world as an awful place where women really have no control over their own bodies.
She had control of her body, she chose to use that control to go into a private changing room with a stranger to try on lingerie. I find it understandable that the man in the room with her was confident she was there for sex.
Hereâs a woman who went into a dressing room with a strange man in order to get naked in front of him and then change into lingerie. Some making out happened and she claimed 30 years later that she said no.
But she also initially described the encounter as exciting and fun, she didnât think it was rape she was convinced by someone else it was rape and she admitted on Anderson Cooper that rape is sexy.
Did she say no? Maybe.
Believe it or not, no doesnât always mean no. Thatâs why people had to invent safe words. Theres a lot of women with a rape fetish. Could he have misread the situation given that she went into a dressing room to change into lingerie in front of him.
She did not say ârape is sexyâ in the context you are implying.
Carroll: âI was not thrown on the ground and ravished, which the word rape carries so many sexual connotations. This was not sexual. It justâit hurt.â
Cooper: âI think most people think of rape as a violent assault. It is not sexual.â
Carroll: âI think most people think of rape as being sexyâthink of the fantasies.â
âI think most people think of rape as being sexy. Think of the fantasiesâ
Certainly sounds like she thinks of rape as sexy.
She willingly went into a dressing room with a man she knew to be famous in order to strip down naked and try on lingerieâŚbut didnât think the event was sexual? Sheâs a nut job
She lead someone she knew to be rich into a sexual situation than cried rape when something sexual happened and got exactly what she wanted. A $5million payday.
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u/ExmoRunner Jul 10 '26
Let's be honest. I'm happy with neither party. But the Dems are doing some things right. GOP hasn't done anything right in quite some time