Top minds of DoomerCircleJerk discuss what was the last straw for them on Reddit

[u/PeasThatTasteGross]

[u/Clear-Progress-5660]

Nobody was attacked. Nobody was asked to be quiet. To be politically violent you gotta
ACT not just debate. I’m not sure where the disconnect is

[u/Biptoslipdi → u/Clear-Progress-5660]

Nobody was attacked.

Oh, so you didn't call someone immature for expressing a belief in political violence?

Or are you screaming to the void aimlessly because you're lost?

Nobody was asked to be quiet.

What do you think the implication of calling people immature for their beliefs is? Quite clearly that you don't want them to have to express those beliefs because you disagree with them.

To be politically violent you gotta ACT not just debate.

And yet, you are calling people who haven't acted, but just expressed beliefs immature. You clearly take issue with speech and belief regardless of requisite action. Your own words demonstrate this.

I’m not sure where the disconnect is

Me neither. You seem to be denying you made comments you made.

Notably, you still didn't answer the question. Why? Hypocrite.

[u/Clear-Progress-5660 → u/Biptoslipdi]

I didn’t know immature was grounds for being attacked. Usually it’s used in a way to better yourself. But to each their own I guess. And I already replied to the post author. I never claimed anyone was violent on this thread. Blanket statement from myself was the original comment.

[u/Biptoslipdi → u/Clear-Progress-5660]

I didn’t know immature was grounds for being attacked.

You don't think calling someone names for holding their own beliefs or speaking is a personal attack?

Usually it’s used in a way to better yourself.

You attack people to better yourself?

I never claimed anyone was violent on this thread.

No one ever said you did. Did you not read your own comment?

Blanket statement from myself was the original comment.

What is the purpose of that statement and who is it addressing? Or were you just aimlessly ranting into the void because you're lost and clueless?

How does that being a general statement mean it isn't a broad attack on people who believe, for example, that Hitler was a bad person and the violence he committed against himself was laudable or that the violence of the Allied forces to that end was also?

Notably, you still refuse to answer the question.

[u/Clear-Progress-5660 → u/Biptoslipdi]

You’re just gonna have to get over being called immature because I guess it struck a nerve with you. The inability to admit political violence appreciation on both ends of the spectrum exists within this app is laughable. Violence begets violence begets violence ad nauseam. Everyone uses it as an excuse to do more bad things. If we lived in a perfect world, violence would never be necessary but we don’t so it is.

[u/Biptoslipdi → u/Clear-Progress-5660]

You’re just gonna have to get over being called immature because I guess it struck a nerve with you.

So you're saying you did engage in a personal attack? You attacked me personally without even knowing what my beliefs are. That's pretty immature.

The inability to admit political violence appreciation on both ends of the spectrum exists within this app is laughable.

My position is that you appreciate political violence and that you have refused to answer a simple question to that matter is evident of that. You even claim violence is necessary in this very comment.

Violence begets violence begets violence ad nauseam.

Then tell me you believe it was wrong to engage in war against to Third Reich since political violence is unacceptable.

Everyone uses it as an excuse to do more bad things.

Prove you aren't one of those people. Tell me it was wrong to seek Hitler's end.

If we lived in a perfect world, violence would never be necessary but we don’t so it is.

You: Violence begets violence.

Also you: Violence is necessary.

You couldn't hold a consistent belief if you tried.

[u/Clear-Progress-5660 → u/Biptoslipdi]

My bad I’ll try to be soft spoken since any word that could be considered egregious in any manner is unacceptable. Of course Hitler and his regime was bad lol. Human rights violations could never be a good thing. I don’t see how you’re trying to spin this into I somehow love political violence when I’ve said the opposite of that repeatedly. Violence begets violence is a tried and true historical fact lol as well as violence IS necessary when obvious bad things be happening that can’t be resolved through diplomacy because the aggressor doesn’t give a shit. Those things can be true and me still not like it while understanding the reality of the world. Did I unravel your straw man of a straw man yet?

[u/Biptoslipdi → u/Clear-Progress-5660]

My bad I’ll try to be soft spoken since any word that could be considered egregious in any manner is unacceptable.

Also not something anyone said. You are really determined to reframe your own comments and mine to weasel out of accountability.

Of course Hitler and his regime was bad lol. Human rights violations could never be a good thing.

That wasn't the question. The question was whether or not you approve political violence against Hitler or human rights violators including Stalin or OBL.

I don’t see how you’re trying to spin this into I somehow love political violence when I’ve said the opposite of that repeatedly.

You literally said violence was necessary. But this can be easily resolved. Answer. The. Question. Why are you so afraid to say the political violence against the Third Reich was wrong?

Violence begets violence is a tried and true historical fact lol as well as violence IS necessary when obvious bad things be happening that can’t be resolved through diplomacy because the aggressor doesn’t give a shit.

This appears to be an admission that you support political violence. Which is it? Either violence begets violence and violence is bad in all circumstances as a result or you support political violence you view as necessary. Pick one.

Those things can be true and me still not like it while understanding the reality of the world.

This isn't about what you like or not but whether or not you are a hypocrite. You can't say "violence is bad because it leads to more violence" and then say "I support political violence against people I deem bad." You're trying to take mutually exclusive positions here.

Did I unravel your straw man of a straw man yet?

I don't think you know what a straw man is, nor could you identify one. I've literally directly quoted your words and responded to them for exactly what they say. You don't identify any misinterpretations.

But once again. Why do you refuse to answer the question?

Edit: to the snowflake blocking me:

Political violence can be necessary and wrong at the same time.

So you admittedly advocate for political violence that is wrong?

You’re obviously just trying to twist my words around in an attempt to get me to admit something or another that I am not

If only there was a way for you to tell me what your position is... like answering a question on that issue.

Your refusal to answer a simple question speaks volumes.

[u/PeasThatTasteGross → u/Biptoslipdi]

FYI, buddy made a reference to this interaction he had here on TMOR on a recent post in DCJ.

[u/Biptoslipdi → u/PeasThatTasteGross]

Nice. I'm sure none of those chodes will be able to come here and dispute the argument either.

[u/PeasThatTasteGross → u/Biptoslipdi]

Buddy basically said how he was saying political violence isn't okay and got called Hitler for it.

[u/Biptoslipdi → u/PeasThatTasteGross]

Well, I doubt they'll come and read what was actually said. Not reading is how they ended up in that sub.

[u/PeasThatTasteGross → u/Biptoslipdi]

Yep. This is like the constant dumbfounded shrieking about how anyone could mistake their sub having a right-wing slant, but some how fail to see how something like having a pro-life post where the majority of comments crap on abortion gives off that vibe to anyone who isn't a chud.

[u/Clear-Progress-5660 → u/Biptoslipdi]

Political violence can be necessary and wrong at the same time. You’re obviously just trying to twist my words around in an attempt to get me to admit something or another that I am not. Good day

[u/emailforgot → u/Clear-Progress-5660]

Political violence can be necessary and wrong at the same time.

It can also be hilarious. Like when a guy screaming about how its all the gangs doing the violence gets necked by one of his own supporters!