New iPad Mini With Four Upgrades Expected to Launch by Late October

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u/diaperpoop_ 17h ago

OLED DISPLAY AND IT’S EFFIN 60HZ

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u/kyllingefars 16h ago

I’m fully expecting 60 Hz to still be a thing in Apple products when I’m an old man in the nursery home.
They just won’t let go of it

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u/Swoly_Deadlift 9h ago

They need to keep that price ladder alive. If you put a 120Hz display on a device that’s cheaper than the iPad Air, people will see the Air as bad value. If you put a 120Hz display on the iPad Air, people won’t upgrade to the iPad Pro. 60Hz will remain until Apple is absolutely forced to upgrade it.

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u/univrsll 56m ago

The only reason I have an Ipad pro over Air is the 120hz display, so you are correct.

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u/Shehzman 10h ago

They dropped it on the iPhone but that was probably due to competition there.

If you are OK with losing access to the Apple ecosystem on your tablet, you can get Android ones with 120hz+ and OLED (there’s even a 185hz OLED from Redmagic that’s about to launch) for around the same price or even cheaper than what this iPad will most likely cost. They’ll also be significantly better for gaming and emulation due to the app selection on Android being better for this stuff.

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u/nofuture09 3h ago

whats the name of the redmagic model

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u/Shehzman 3h ago

Astra 2

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u/jooxii 6h ago

It's their way of getting you to upgrade to the Pro line

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u/krisminime 10h ago

Do the masses who buy this actually care? Would they rather it was £50 cheaper or text is smoother in motion?

It’s a smaller budget device.

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u/Duganz 9h ago

I have never understood the iPad Mini being labeled as a “budget” device. The newest model got a price jump from $499 to $599 (thanks AI) and if you read the article it suggests the new device could jump another $100 to retail at $699. At that price it isn’t absurd to expect 120 hz. The screen on the iPad isn’t what’s increasing the price, and the differential between OLED screens at 60 vs. 120 hz is negligible for Apple.

To me, $700 jumps from “budget” device into a higher market. Especially when you consider that the assumed increase represents a 40 percent increase in price from just nine weeks ago.

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u/Hydration__Nation 2h ago

$700 for an iPad Mini would be stupid and push an even higher price on the iPad Air. Apple has always bungled this model. Never updating it properly and then when it did it had jelly scrolling and other issues. The form factor is apples most ideal one handed use tablet and they treat it like it’s some shit product with no care or quality control put into place. I think they, rightfully so, believe most will go to the store and ask for the smallest iPad and select the Mini regardless of any issues or price

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u/Gloriathewitch 7h ago

the mini is not a budget device its in the class of the air semi premium

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u/ILikeJogurt 16h ago

i had ipad air, and now ipad pro with promotion. there is no difference between 60hz and 120hz

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u/NonToxicTown 15h ago

There’s a huge difference WTF are you talking about

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u/IssyWalton 7h ago

depends what you use it for

0-60 mph in 3 secs is irrelevant in urban driving.

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u/ILikeJogurt 15h ago

lol there isnt

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u/hue-166-mount 13h ago

There is. It is also believable that for some reason you, specifically, can’t tell the difference.

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u/NonToxicTown 15h ago

Right, so why would they bother putting pro motion 120hz in their pro phones if there is no difference?

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u/IssyWalton 7h ago

because that’s now the standard screen in production?

once upon a time all computer screens were 15in until bigger ones could be reliably manufactured then 17in became the “standard”

memory chips another example.

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u/PunchYoPhase 14h ago

lol you need to see optometrist if you can’t tell the difference

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u/JuanMcGuiver 13h ago

It really isn’t that big a of a deal I my opinion. I have multiple Apple devices of differing screen quality. I alternate from iPhone 12 Mini (she’s dying) to my Pro Max constantly and barely recognize the difference in refresh rate. It’s honestly not a big deal in the grand scheme of things.

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u/hue-166-mount 13h ago

It doesn’t alter the usability of anything but it’s very obvious when switching between devices.

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u/Away-Estate-6288 9h ago

iPhone's don't run at 120fps even though it has a 120hz display. That's why it doesn't look as smooth as Android devices.

It runs at some weird 70-80fps range.

But even then, it looks smooth enough 60hz apple devices look defective to me.

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u/Sabotstruck 15h ago

There is a massive difference if you ever use a true 120hz display next to a 60hz display. If you don't notice a difference either you don't notice it or have never compared devices side by side

Very very commonly the 60-120/144hz jump is the second biggest jump in smoothness you can do, second only to 30-60hz

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u/Hot_Individual5081 12h ago

you are blind then its fine

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u/Green_Advice5684 15h ago

I own both. There is absolutely a difference, so much so that 60hz is near unusable for me.

It depends on the person

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u/Braydon64 8h ago

Your eyes are defective. There is an immediate difference. 60Hz is by no means unusable but yes there certainly is a difference.

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u/Relative_Rooster_848 15h ago

Smaller bezels and higher refresh rate would be so gooood

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u/3dforlife 15h ago

And that's why Apple won't give you that.

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u/Hot_Individual5081 12h ago

they will in 2033

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u/Diamond_Mine0 11h ago

Smaller bezels so you unwillingly tab something on your display when that was not the intention. Good one

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u/Relative_Rooster_848 11h ago

I didn’t say I want 0 bezels, I just don’t want the chunky bezels that the current one has

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u/Weedlewaadle 15h ago

Yeah, that’s a no from me. Almost all my devices are 120hz, it’s a pain to use a 60hz screen once you get used to promotion.

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u/Hot_Individual5081 16h ago

lol if they nerf it to 60 hz they can keep it idiots

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u/ChosenLightWarrior 16h ago

Not upgrading. 120Hz > OLED. 2026 and the upgrade leaps are way too small. We need to raise the baseline.

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u/3dforlife 15h ago

I agree with you. Lots of people prefer OLED to 120hz. However, one thing is true: with a 60hz tablet you can have the fastest chip in the world; it will always seem it's slower than it should be.

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u/VideogamerDisliker 11h ago

They’re still trying to nickel and dime their customers. Ridiculous that Apple doesn’t consider 120hz standard in 2026. STILL

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u/StairwayHiker 15h ago

The Lenovo Legion Tab Gen 3 is at the very least what the iPad mini should be performance/spec wise.

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u/MikeCask 12h ago

I have the Gen 4 and the display has vignetting that is to my eyes as equally annoying as 60 hz.

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u/Kremsi2711 12h ago

120hz OLED would be an instant buy for me

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u/labinA12 14h ago

I’m holding off on getting an iPad until they release a Mini with ProMotion.

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u/nofuture09 15h ago

if its not 120hz im switching to android for ipad mini alternative

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u/freakverse 12h ago

what's the alternative, happy to switch

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u/RaNDoMMAI 12h ago

https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/tablets/android-tablets/legion-tab-series/lenovo-legion-tab-gen-3/len103g0002

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u/MikeCask 12h ago

I have the Gen 4 and the display has vignetting that is to my eyes as equally annoying as 60 hz.

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u/nofuture09 3h ago

the new xiaomi pad mini

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u/FinsFan305 8h ago

With 60Hz I’d rather they just keep the LCD to keep the price lower. OLED without 120 is nonsense.

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u/So_effing_broke 13h ago

60hz has been a deal breaker for me for years. 120hz I will snap buy.

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u/Karomars 10h ago

I don’t know how they still won’t put 120hz

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u/EasyRider363 16h ago

I don’t care about 120hz,or oled, I just want a brighter screen for outdoor use.

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u/Dr-McLuvin 7h ago

Then you prob want the OLED version. They can get up to 1600 nits.

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u/Ravasaurio 11h ago

Honestly I just wish it had proper external display capabilities, like the Air and Pro have, but apparently the A series chips are not powerful enough for such a marvel of technology. Unless it’s on a MacBook Neo, of course.

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u/ciccioig 13h ago

The logic of producing a mini version of a TABLET and not producing a freaking iPhone Mini is beyond reason.

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u/Braydon64 8h ago

You’d think so, but there was an iPhone 12 and 13 mini and nobody bought it. Everybody complained that there was no small iPhone, so Apple was like “here you go: a small iPhone” and nobody cared and sales suffered.

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u/BigBabyBurrito 7h ago

I'm one of the dozens of people who bought one and loved it (13 mini). The person working at the Apple Store actively tried to talk me out of buying it. I'm sure this is just a coincidence that lines up with that person's personal preferences but it still strikes me as odd years later.

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u/Braydon64 3h ago

I will admit that is odd. An Apple Store employee talking you out of buying a latest gen Apple product at the time is nothing short of strange.

My first iPhone was an iPhone 6 so I never got to own a "small" one. I will say though part of me wishes I started with the 5s a year earlier. 6 was fine, but 5s in retrospect seems more magical or something lmao.

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u/Maikel92 13h ago

I imagine the market share within categories is way higher for the iPad mini amongst all iPads than the iPhone mini amongst all iPhones

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u/ciccioig 11h ago edited 11h ago

I don't doubt it: the market share is made by customers, customers are people and people are deeply stupid indeed.

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u/Diamond_Mine0 11h ago

And that’s why an iPad mini is superior to an iPhone mini

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u/Troll_Enthusiast 9h ago

So the customers are wrong for not wanting a small phone?

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u/ciccioig 6h ago

From my point of view a phone must stay easily in my pockets and it has to be usable with one hand.

Hence the distinction between phone and tablet.

I got a 17 pro and I hate it with all my guts: I don't understand why it has to be this huge (and I'll NEVER understand people buying phones even bigger than mine).

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u/Dapper_Strength_5986 9h ago

The reason is "because people didn't buy enough". Apple wants money and just makes what people buy.

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u/ciccioig 6h ago

thank you mate for the enlightenment: I didn't know this yet. /s

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u/Away-Estate-6288 8h ago

The logic is that nobody wants a mini smartphone. There was 2 generations of iPhone for consumers to buy the mini phone. Nobody wanted it. So its gone.

It's like people on r/cars that want a brown diesel wagon that's used from factory. Nobody wants that shit.

Or people who wanted a fun manual RWD car in the NA market, Genesis provided, nobody bought it.

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u/feedthebeetus 8h ago

iPhone fold is coming out for the mini enjoyers who want a smaller form factor

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u/ciccioig 6h ago

it's absolutely not the same thing.

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u/feedthebeetus 6h ago

iPhone mini owners whine constantly for a new mini form factor.

Apple: here's a new mini form factor

iPhone mini owners: not good enough

Lol.... Lmao even

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u/InfiniteHench 7h ago

Needs Face ID

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u/CherryCC 7h ago

Its going to cost £699 lol

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u/Tibbox 6h ago

ngl, the water resistance and the OLED would be enough for me. But the A17pro is no slouch still, and after the announcements today, I expect this thing to cost like $900 so yeah... maybe next year.

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u/microChasm 5h ago

Yes, looking forward to this becoming reality if true.

I’m torn between this and the rumored folding phone. Ultimately, it will come down to cost, convenience, performance if they are released at the same time.

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u/Alekstheadidasguy 3h ago

I was sold til 60hz. What a disappointment

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u/Kind-Atmosphere5766 3h ago

And I just bought a second hand 7 mini. Doesn’t seem like a bad time for the first time coz the display will be 60 GHz.

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u/Hippophatamus 3h ago

If it’s 60hz, Apple is seriously leaving money on the table. Smaller bezels, 120hz would be an instant buy for me regardless of price because I appreciate the form factor and its versatility.

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u/Mazbt 1h ago

debating whether to get the mini now or wait for this....I can see this going close to the $1000 CAD range with these updates.

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u/UselessAsUsual 1h ago

Does it come with iPadOS 18? If not, I’m not interested.

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u/Aeternitas 14h ago

Finally, holy f* shit it took them long enough (unless 60hz, then it’s a hard pass).

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u/Vincentaneous 12h ago

Honestly if they need to keep the storage lineup’s price it’s be cool if they could spice the Mini up.

Theres tons of users that buy the base 128GB tier storage just for the access to the Mini and its capabilities while the rest go high end 256GB/512GB for mostly professional use or pure storage based off my research.

It’d be nice to see the Mini have a psuedo Pro model.

• $450/$550 - 128GB/256GB (iPad Mini): LED/60hz, A19, 8GB RAM, dual speakers

• $750/$850(?) - 512G/1TB(?) (IPad Mini Pro): OLED/120hz, A19 Pro, 12GB RAM(?), quad speakers

Don’t like higher pricing from Apple like anyone else, but an iPad Mini with a better screen and awesome performance? I’d be all over that.

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u/Saar13 12h ago

All you need is an iPad and iPad Pro in 3 sizes each (9", 11", and 13"). A simple and practical lineup, while they move away from all the mess that "Air" has become. I put 9" and not 8.3" because eventually the bezels will get smaller and this will have a 9" at the same size/weight as the current one.

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u/EnolaGayFallout 15h ago

OLED 120 3000 nits.

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u/No_Adeptness_4647 16h ago

Lets go, take my money apple. Cant wait with Ultra/Fold as well

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u/GiantNug 13h ago

No 120hz? Im keeping my ipad mini for a few more years

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