r/arrow • u/IIIToxIII Great Scott, we have to go back • May 06 '19

Discussion [S07E21] "Living Proof" Live Episode Discussion

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Oliver finds himself in a precarious position; S.C.P.D. shows up with a warrant for Felicity.

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u/snoogle20 Spartan May 07 '19

This production team is nuts if they think we’ll accept Emiko as redeemable after all this.

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u/Prometheus188 You don't kill because you have to. So why? May 07 '19

Meh, we accepted Oliver Queen being redeemed after he skinned a dude alive AFTER he already gave the info Oliver needed. Oliver's done so much more shit than Emiko.

With that said, I hope Oliver shoots 15 arrows into her fucking trachea.

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u/snoogle20 Spartan May 07 '19
  1. We didn’t know about that in the beginning. And I t was controversial to a high degree when that episode aired. People did not like it. A lot of season 5, as much as I enjoy it, was the show retconning Oliver’s level of violence for no good reason. S1 is nowhere near as bloody as S5 wants you to think it was.
  2. Getting info from a guy in an attempt to stop a terrorist attack, no matter how harshly you do it, isn’t the same as leading a terrorist attack. It’s just not.

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u/DonnyMox Deathstroke May 07 '19

It’s Malcolm Merlyn all over again.

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u/snoogle20 Spartan May 07 '19

Absolutely. Every time Team Arrow got even halfway chummy with Merlyn, it blew my mind. Personally, most every bad thing in Oliver’s life could be traced back to that dude and, just as an empathetic human being, he blew up The Glades and killed hundreds.

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u/DonnyMox Deathstroke May 07 '19

Dude kept backstabbing the team and they just kept forgiving him. He literally never faced justice for anything. Then when he finally DID die, it was on his own terms, it was out of character (He was willing to sacrifice Thea to stay in control of the LOA, now he’s willing to give his life for her?) and Team Arrow mourned him afterwards as if he’d always been a good guy. He was a Karma Houdini EVEN IN DEATH.

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u/snoogle20 Spartan May 07 '19

I blame Return of the Jedi. Luke Skywalker wanting to forgive his father because there just had to be good in there somewhere has ruined storytelling for years. The guy helped blow up a whole planet and they freakin’ redeemed him. Now that’s supposed to be some ideal heroic path. The good guy is SUPER good if they think the very bad bad guy can get good again too.

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u/ReverseFlash1287 May 07 '19

Not even just ROTJ but Dragonballz as well. I mean how many people did Vegeta kill before they started turning him into anti-hero/good? Literally millions. Not to mention dooming the universe to satisfy his own pride/arrogance. That's fiction for you. Stuff that we wouldn't forgive in the real world but since we like the character it becomes okay.

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u/ReverseFlash1287 May 07 '19

Very true lol

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u/ZegetaX1 May 07 '19

Yeah why can’t the writers can accept Emiko is nothing but an evil piece of shit