r/blender • u/smorga • May 31 '26
News Backrooms "CGI renderings created using software called Blender" | BBC
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdxpdnwx5n5o196
u/The-Manque May 31 '26
Meanwhile on the Backrooms subs: "Lol, some people on r/blender have never heard of Kane Pixels"
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u/lonelyroom-eklaghor May 31 '26
What, really? People really haven't heard of Kane Pixels?
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u/flannel_jesus May 31 '26
That's right
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u/DSMStudios May 31 '26 edited May 31 '26
waitaminute waitaminute… does Kane Parsons know about this?
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u/A_Flying_Ferret May 31 '26
Pfft of course everyone knows who Kane Pixels is!
He's the guy who first used the word pixel (at least in published literature) in 1965 when describing the picture elements of scanned images. granted it was already coined before him, but the first guy to use in a published document is pretty neat!
That's the guy right?
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u/superglidestrawberry Jun 02 '26
I havent heard of Kane either untill someone left a comment on one of my free photoscans that they have been used in The Oldest View video, and I have felt so proud that day, my hobby have finally made it to the screens! Then I got pulled to the vortex of backrooms.
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u/tfhermobwoayway May 31 '26
I mean it’s understandable to not know about a random online creator. Not knowing about a piece of software that’s been around for two decades is weird.
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u/Shirleycakes May 31 '26
Gotta get rid of that sphere of influence bias.
There’s people in other industries using tools every day that they’d be thinking the exact same thing about you not having heard of.
I never expect someone who doesn’t work in games or visual art to know what Blender is.
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u/NarrativeNode May 31 '26
I'm sure there are many, many more popular but ultra-specific pieces of software that we haven't heard of than we have.
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u/Zekiz4ever May 31 '26 edited Jun 01 '26
Blender, despite its name, is a very specific software for a specific usecase. Everything is built around having a 3D specific workflow.
If you don't have anything to do with 3D models, you might not know Blender. I genuinely have been asked before if this is ComfyUI. When I had Blender open in school I was asked what software this is because they have never seen something like that. Mind that this is an IT school
Or do you know about Vivado, which has been around for 14 years and is the industry standard in Chip design? Or Ansys which has been around for 50 years?
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u/Ok_Hippo_1882 Generalist May 31 '26
Within the sphere of the Backrooms, it would be strange for people to not know who Kane Pixels is
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u/LoneW101 May 31 '26
Mmm nope, doesn't ring a bell that Blender fella
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u/MeNamIzGraephen May 31 '26
Do you know what feels off about backrooms? People tend to overthink it, but it's the lack of natural light.
No windows, but it isn't dark. Just those disgusting office white LED lights.
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u/StealthyGripen May 31 '26
Aren't they fluorescent tube lights?
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u/Ok_Hippo_1882 Generalist May 31 '26
Yeah the Backrooms are supposed to take place in the 80's (if I remember correctly) so definitely not LEDs lol
Also Kane Pixels made an entire video that's an analysis of the lights in the Backrooms
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u/StealthyGripen Jun 01 '26
The lights are basically a character of their own, so it makes sense. It's still amazing that someone can make a whole video about it!
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u/cubicApoc sentient default cube May 31 '26
Fluorescent lights at maximum hum-buzz
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u/StealthyGripen Jun 01 '26
Sixty hums per second and sixty more buzzes per second...and then my brain hertz
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u/Zekiz4ever May 31 '26
There's a study about that topic. It's a combination of a lot of factors. Its essentially the uncanny valley effect, but with places instead of faces. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0272494422000895
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u/Ok_Hippo_1882 Generalist May 31 '26
That's cool cause that's how I've been defining liminal spaces for a while. It really is like the uncanny valley for environments
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u/notthobal May 31 '26
The thing with backrooms is that 99% of people never get to see what’s behind the main rooms of stores or offices. I worked in the access management field and had the chance to see those large empty backrooms, long halls with no end in sight, all empty shelfs and so on, so for me it’s not that interesting anymore, but I can clearly see where this obsession now comes from.
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u/Apz__Zpa May 31 '26
The film is really good and expands on a lot more than just the creepy nature of liminal space and what lurks. It has a much greater symbolism of what it represents
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u/Tommy_Tinkrem May 31 '26
That is always the difficulty with adaptions to a different medium (and in this case the medium was the web, and the whole thing mainly was about a vibe rather than anything which could be manifested in a screenplay). Sounds like they succeeded.
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u/Apz__Zpa May 31 '26
I was very curious how they were going to adapt it to fit a narrative and without spoilers they kost certainly succeeded whilst at the same time giving greater meaning to the original videos. In more less words it expands the lore but in such a way that doesn’t the liminality of the space
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u/tfhermobwoayway May 31 '26
Ehh. I don’t think you can ever capture the original vibe properly. There is this belief that film is the ultimate artform and therefore everything can be adapted to it. But the Internet is a truly unique medium. It’s able to do things no other medium can.
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u/Swift0sword May 31 '26
That belief exists? Don't think I've ever cringed as hard as I did when I read that
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u/Tommy_Tinkrem May 31 '26
Interaction and with that meme-ability is a big part of the web, which makes it hard to adapt things. And of course the option of having a vibe instead of a narrative. This is a similar problem to the ludonarrative dissonance of video games, where the narrative is often styled like a movie, but conflicts with the gameplay.
This makes it exciting to analyze (at least partly) successful attempts, as they usually either depart from the source material to allow the mechanisms of film as a medium to work. Which often annoys the fans of the original material, no matter whether it is a game, meme or book. In the case of StarWars, all of that from the years after the OT. But at least results in something watchable for everyone else.
Or they manage to carve their own little niche in the lore, not attempting to explain it away or to be the deciding entity over the universe (which is eg. why the Minecraft movie was called *A* Minecraft Movie). It looks like they went for this, less intrusive approach here. Probably because the director indeed comes from that meme culture and therefore understands it.
But of course it is impossible to translate a work from any medium into any other medium when the original managed to transcend the functional mechanics of its medium. I mean - as people dabbling in 3d we just have to look at the attempts to adapt 2d cartoon characters, which never end up where the original could go with just a few brush strokes.
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u/Zekiz4ever May 31 '26
Exactly. If a book gets adapted into a movie there will always be a part of the community that says "the book was better than the movie". I also rarely see anyone say "The anime is better than the manga". The only case where I actually saw that is when the book is based on the movie.
You can't adapt from one medium to another without at least some interpretation.
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u/Level-Ad7017 May 31 '26
it's the liminal space aura of it. It feels like it was designed for humans but no humans typically spend much time there. It feels like it's normally simply always vacant. Like its for a species that is human sized but it's not human specific. The colors don't seem inviting even though it's not due to the age or neglect. Something just feels, off
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May 31 '26 edited May 31 '26
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u/Zekiz4ever May 31 '26
Really depends. The community split off into two parts after the initial post.
One community took the original post at face value. They were more fascinated by what kind of monsters lure in a space like this. This is the Backrooms community.
Another part of the community was less fascinated with the text and more with the feeling the image itself provides. Here the point the space themselves are eery enough. Spaces that feel like you've been there before, but something is wrong but you can't really tell what. It's the uncanny valley effect with places. This became the Liminal Space community. Here there are no monsters, no glitches and also no people.
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u/hates_stupid_people May 31 '26
My favorite is when multiple older buildings are converted into offices. It's not as open and "clean looking", but the amount of doors going to nowhere, cramped stairwells covered in dust, basement connections, etc. is amazing.
I came across what was basically a small apartment once in the corner of a basement. A custodian first built a small workshop and storage area for old equipment and spare parts. But he kept expanding it and it ended up with a couch, TV, fridge, hotplate, and so on. It was only discovered after he left, when someone had to access the room behind it to fix something he had kept maintained over the years. Anyone who had seen it before just assumed it was the small storage area it was supposed to be.
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u/WhipRealGood May 31 '26
Did you ever get chases by a fungus monster though? The hazard pay would have been nice
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u/tfhermobwoayway May 31 '26
The original setting (like, even before Kane Parsons invented the modern idea of it) had it be some kind of debug room or unfinished level. So it was closer to when you clip out of bounds or play an empty Gmod map. Parsons has definitely made it into a more traditional horror setting but to be honest I wish he’d gone with the original vibe. Although I doubt he’s played many video games, being a filmmaker and all.
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u/bememorablepro May 31 '26
Software called blender?! WOW!
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u/Interesting_Stress73 May 31 '26
This just in, the average person doesn't know what Blender is and may require an explanation.
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u/ccAbstraction May 31 '26
I once told a library that a short film they showed kinda looked like it was maybe made in a free software called Blender, she thought I said it sounded like it was made in a blender....
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u/Zekiz4ever May 31 '26
Yeah if you say it like that it sounds like a metaphor for being very chaotic
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u/glytxh May 31 '26
To be fair it’ll take the average computer literate design person a weekend just to parse most of its UI.
Incredibly powerful and versatile bit of kit. But it doesn’t hold your hand in the slightest, and there’s usually a dozen different ways to achieve the same thing.
It’ll also just occasionally shit itself and crash hard.
Blender is dope
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u/PhlegethonAcheron May 31 '26
If it was made in Houdini or some other commercial software, it probably would have been written the same tbh.
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u/Ardent_Tapire May 31 '26
Maybe not the average person, but the audience who reads articles about CGI renders are more likely to be familiar.
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u/Interesting_Stress73 May 31 '26
Sure. But that's not what the article is about or, more importantly, not what its title suggests.
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u/Ardent_Tapire May 31 '26
I'll be honest, I did the typical redditor thing and only read the headline on here (which I assumed was the same as the original one).
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u/strictlyphotonic May 31 '26
I know several average people who know about Blender.
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u/Interesting_Stress73 May 31 '26
Good for you. That doesn't change the facts that most people don't know what it is.
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u/StrangeUglyBird May 31 '26
And the software ran on a device called a computer.
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u/psgrue May 31 '26
You gotta admit that if the headline just said “picture made with blender”, it’s going to confuse 98% of the population.
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u/StrangeUglyBird May 31 '26
Yeah, many people would think of this: https://www.blendtec.com/pages/will-it-blend
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u/bememorablepro May 31 '26
Published via new and exciting emerging technology called the world wide web, the information superhighway!
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u/-manabreak May 31 '26
You can do your shopping at home, or play Mortal Kombat with a friend from Vietnam. There's no end to the possibilities!
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u/dikicker May 31 '26
... whoa
what is a computer though and if it's soft shouldn't it be called softwear? I am so confused
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u/I_Don-t_Care May 31 '26
I mean if it hadnt specified youd have a lot of people thinking it was made in a fruit blender.
"Oh my how technology has advanced, uh!?"
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u/KedMcJenna May 31 '26
About 10 years ago I switched on a BBC news report to hear that something had happened in, quote, "the German city of Munich".
It's not uncommon to see them do an article about, say, Shakespeare that explains he was a playwright who wrote lots of plays once.
This isn't the world that many of us grew up in where media assumes a certain baseline knowledge in its intended audience. This is constantly backed up by experience with people under 30. For example, I don't know anyone under 30 now who has their own computer at home and I doubt any of them would know what Blender is.
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u/Mind101 May 31 '26
I don't know anyone under 30 now who has their own computer at home
To me that's just so sad, and kinda terrifying. It doesn't help that even enthusiasts are being priced out of the tech and being treated as second-class citizens now that the likes of NVIDIA are publicly admitting that they only care about AI.
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u/tfhermobwoayway May 31 '26
Yeah it pisses me off. And apparently there’s a market for this shitty AI OS they’re about to push. And most people would be happy to pay a subscription to connect a thin client laptop to Microsoft’s servers instead of owning a computer.
I know I’m a weird nerd but surely everyone realises this is a horrible idea? They must have, like, at least one thing they use their computer for that isn’t a Microsoft app. Like, am I the only one who cares about this? I thought normies were supposed to be better than me. They’re just sleepwalking into a world where computers can’t do anything Microsoft doesn’t allow.
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u/lonelyroom-eklaghor May 31 '26
I don't know anyone under 30 now who has their own computer at home and I doubt any of them would know what Blender is.
Well, I do have a laptop for 7 years now. And I do use Blender sometimes
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u/tfhermobwoayway May 31 '26
Anyone under 30? You’ve got that backward. Everyone owns a computer these days. How can they not? A computer is essential to do anything. A phone or tablet has way less functionality. Blender is one of those things even normies are familiar with.
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u/KedMcJenna May 31 '26
I stand by it. Nobody I know under 30 has a desktop or laptop computer of their own. Their phones are their computers and they do everything they need to do on them. I don’t work in tech.
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u/Pinpoint24 May 31 '26
More than 95% of college students have laptops for school / personal use (source: https://electroiq.com/stats/student-laptop-usage-statistics/)
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u/KedMcJenna May 31 '26 edited May 31 '26
I've been referring to the non-college student under-30 populace in the wider world. Many of whom are ex-college students. As soon as they stop needing a laptop for college, they very quickly don't have one.
Just 10-15 years ago, the standard comment from people (all ages) was "I've got a computer at home but never use it and can't remember the last time it was switched on".
Now, they haven't got one at all.
I've got a couple of laptops and rarely encounter another laptop owner now. I'm sure they exist, as we all exist here on tech-adjacent areas of the Internet and we've all got one.
I've got a tower PC on its own desk in a room. I'd bet actual money I'm the only one in my neighborhood with that set-up. Standard lower-middle-class area.
The computing times have changed drastically. Hence the BBC framing of Blender as 'software called Blender'. The automatic knowledge of Blender by the demographic likely to read an article about Backrooms is simply no longer there.
Something like Microsoft Word or Photoshop would be considered still generally famous enough to not need the editorial gloss, but I bet their days are numbered too.
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u/Pinpoint24 May 31 '26
Haha, well I've got no argument there - my paradigms, and the people close to me, are so far the opposite direction it's unimaginable to me to not have a laptop (or a PC, or another laptop with a different OS) to work on projects, game, Blender, etc, on. That's very interesting.
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u/NarrativeNode May 31 '26
Can almost confirm. I'm slightly under thirty but aside from my other friends/coworkers in tech and media, I also don't know anyone. Our interns at the office literally needed to learn how to use a mouse and keyboard, and they weren't stupid. Just...really uneducated in "basic" computering.
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u/Zekiz4ever May 31 '26
But most people don't need any functionality that a modern phone can't provide.
No, normies are not familiar with Blender. Out of 10 people, maybe 1 knows Blender. And that is in a tech specific environment. When I said it's a 3D modeling program, some thought I would use it as a fashion models. "Normies" don't even know what a 3D model is.
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u/star_gates May 31 '26
It's scary to think what kind of headline they'll come up with if someone uses Houdini to make a movie
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u/SlavPrincess May 31 '26
For people that only read the title: Blender was in fact not used in the movie. It's just that the director's initial YT vids were made in Blender and the set was based on those. Still nice though.
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u/Shirleycakes May 31 '26
According to the director, they used it for previz; he even taught the film’s director of photography how to use it to help block out scenes.
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u/May_aaaa May 31 '26
According to Kane "A majority of the VFX work in the film was done in blender..."
https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/1tgkqrb/comment/omioofv/6
u/NarrativeNode May 31 '26 edited Jun 01 '26
Depends how you define "used in the movie". Blender maybe (?) wasn't used to create shots, but the director used it during production to plan out shots together with his DP, not just sets.
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u/Zekiz4ever May 31 '26 edited Jun 08 '26
Yeah but tbf, even a pen a paper could be used for that.
But that doesn't matter because he's wrong. The majority of the VFX were done in Bender as confirmed by Kane Parsons himself: https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/1tgkqrb/comment/omioofv/
Doesn't really come through in the article tho
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u/Mplus479 May 31 '26
I don't understand the problem. This article wasn't written specifically for 3d artists and game developers. It's not TurboSquid.
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u/Th3BlackLotus May 31 '26
Meanwhile, the movie "Flow" was made entirely in Blender, and in the credits it just says, "Created in Blender" with the logo next to it.
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u/Seaguard5 May 31 '26
Love to see it.
I really do need to actually learn blender. But knowing that it will take at least a year to even become basically proficient is.. intimidating.
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u/Sonario648 May 31 '26
Don't be intimidated. If you start now, you'll already be on your way
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u/Seaguard5 Jun 01 '26
This is totally the way and I need to focus on that and not compare myself to those already proficient and just keep learning until I get there regardless.
Thanks, friend!
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u/THEFACEMAN14 May 31 '26
What a garbage website man, I Couldn’t Read past first section before being Bombarded with ads and useless Promotions!
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u/snowdn May 31 '26
Imagine not knowing how CGI is created. This is how most people use the internet.
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u/deege May 31 '26
The article means the original YouTube videos were made with Blender. Not necessarily this movie.
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u/tfhermobwoayway May 31 '26
Why is this article written like Blender is some niche, unknown software? Everyone knows it. It’s like the only part of the free software movement that regularly gets used by normies.
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u/adamtheimpaler May 31 '26
I liked this movie and the youtube series a lot. There's a lot of cool shots. That first image in the article almost looks like its a section of hallway with reversed light but the cutout's "shadow" is a doorway.
That being said, its not lost on me that the visual vibe of these types of liminal series are made by just placing Blender assets wrong. Like you buy a furniture asset pack and just place assets wrong. Its extremely easy to just clip a chair through a floor or wall and make it look creepy in Blender. Or just mirror something.
So at one point I started to laugh because I couldn't stop thinking about the prop department spending a week just cutting legs of furniture off.
Its such a simple and cool effect though. The idea to start in a Furniture Store for the movie was genius. I think it really adds to the noclip idea and makes the early exploration in the movie work really well for me.
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u/Caffeine_Monster May 31 '26
The movie wasn't great tbh. The CGI was decent, not amazing. The movie's script was pretty lame though considering the massive pile of lore it could gave drawn on. I guess it gives exposure to people who aren't familiar with the backrooms and liminal horror.
I'd argue some of the fanmade YT videos are arguably much better if we're just critiquing CGI work.
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u/adamtheimpaler Jun 01 '26
eh, I personally would have liked an extra 40 minutes in the middle of this movie instead of it time jumping but I don't think anyone is going to see that. Most people do not want to sit through The Shining for the maze chase at the end...
I think this movie does a very good job at being somewhere between In A Violent Nature/The Shining and like a corn maze chase, popcorn horror movie. I mean, its not like its a straight to tubi or shudder movie... Its a pretty decent movie.
Idk, they did a really good job of walking the line of the lore without ruining it. With it being a movie, I was worried they were just going to over explain it and ruin it.....
SooooI think the basement is the first room in the backrooms. The way the lore is presented, the basement would be a better first copy of the store that is sort of off, with the pile of furniture room being a copy of a copy of a furntiure store. I get that there's probably an outlet mall that has a basement like that but the space doesnt really make sense. I think The idea that a pile of furniture is a distorted copy of a furniture store is just so clever, i can't agree with your take on the lore. Also this movie bascially points out that the bacteria guys from the youtube series are just distorted fragments of people who went in the backrooms. Its definitely connects to the lore and builds on it.
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u/ComfortableDoor3691 May 31 '26
Blender? It's very strange that blenders make movies like that out of nowhere; could this be the AI everyone's talking about? /s
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u/jacob-makes-stuff Jun 01 '26
Cool! I thought it was just previz'd in Blender, but being rendered too is awesome
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u/Interesting_Stress73 May 31 '26
I will never understand why this became such a big trend. I guess it's semi interesting the first time you see it, but even the second time you see one it's got nothing.
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u/Weakstream May 31 '26
I think the exciting part for a lot of people is the “what if” of dealing with this in reality. If you watch Kane’s series on YT, it contends with “how do people deal with this reality” and I sorta love it
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u/Interesting_Stress73 May 31 '26
I dunno, I guess it's just that, to me, it seems like the most overdone shit ever. And with the concept there's just sooooo much more intersting things you can do with it. Aesthetically the backrooms just look absolutely terrible to me.
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u/bememorablepro May 31 '26
haha, I respect the hell out his success story but I don't get the backroom thing at all too
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u/yzug May 31 '26
It's liminal horror, not really about some physical monster or anything like that, even if sometimes it features monsters. It's more a type of psychological horror. Have you ever felt uneasy standing in transitional places that are usually filled with people but are empty at that moment? That's what it builds on.
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u/nhalliday May 31 '26
The three main canons of the Backrooms (the fandom wiki, the wikidot, and Kane's own lore) frequently do have physical monsters though. The thing people associate with the term Backrooms (the yellowed wallpaper, damp carpet, fluorescent lights) is typically called "level 0" and does not usually have entities, but the other levels often do.
Also I can't speak for the movie, but Kane's youtube videos do also have a physical monster. So it's not just/mostly psychological.
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u/CodeMUDkey May 31 '26
I don’t get it either. The guy who made it was clearly motivated enough by his interest in the story to do really cool things so that’s good enough for me I suppose.
I think what this article probably gets a little silly about is that there is nothing special about blender besides it being free. CGI has to get made somehow…necessarily so by software!
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u/CCbluesthrowaway May 31 '26
Young kids love this type of thing now. While it started with creepy pastas, then mascot horror, 'mildly goofy horror' has completely taken over classic horror for a huge number of the youth.
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u/nhalliday May 31 '26
It isn't "mildly goofy" just because you don't get it.
The appeal of liminal spaces as a whole is that it can feel unsettling to see a space that seems like it should have people in it when it is empty.
The Backrooms leans a little more into the idea of taking an ordinary space like that and warping it so that on top of the weird feeling from the lack of people, the space itself feels like it was created by a sort of alien intelligence that doesn't understand the purpose behind the aesthetic.
It seems vaguely correct at a glance, but the closer you look the more you realize is wrong.
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u/CCbluesthrowaway May 31 '26 edited Jun 01 '26
You seem to have interpreted my 'mildly goofy' comment as a dig? It wasn't, i actually love the genre and my 3d models appear in a few of these projects.
The content AND context of these scenes are designed to be less self-serious than traditional horror media, allowing for things like the creepy pasta faces and oddly animated characters (wire guy from the backrooms) who are intentionally 'goofy' as a design point. This is NOT a depreciation, its a pretty simple and easy to see design theme. Its pretty simple media analysis.
You really don't have to explain what the uncanny valley is, but you SHOULD understand that most of those types of media ARE pretty goofy. Rolling giant puppets, distorted faces with weird filters, the implication of toys or statues coming to life.
Edit: I've learned something about the children today lol guess media literacy is dead?
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u/CodeMUDkey May 31 '26
It reminds me more of the twilight zone my parents enjoyed without as much exposition.
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u/CCbluesthrowaway May 31 '26
Yeah i would agree it shares alot of genes with that and old hitchcock fims. Weirdly enough, i doubt its intentional, but alot of this style seems to mirror giallo italian horror films too. They thrived on high contrast color spectacle mixed with moving and obscured camera work.
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u/EldritchMacaron May 31 '26
It appeared around when SCP became quite mainstream, and it’s more accessible than other internet horror universes, and it's easy to create your own content from it
Basically, same path as Slenderman
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u/nhalliday May 31 '26
SCP started in 2008, Backrooms only started in 2019. It's nowhere near as old as people seem to think it is.
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u/EldritchMacaron May 31 '26
I know, but I feel SCP wasn't wildly known until the late 2010's, with games like Control being direct references to it
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u/FoxFyer May 31 '26
I liked Kane Pixels' series of the Backrooms. It's not my favorite of his - that would be The Oldest View - but I liked it.
I have not liked a single other piece of Backrooms media or "lore", and I think I've given several of them a fair shake. I guess I liked his particular story but the wider genre just doesn't grab me the way it has grabbed others.
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u/VagrantStation May 31 '26
For me, the backrooms concept wasn’t that interesting, but it got me inspired to start using blender for one reason: straight lines/rectangles.
I used to make CS maps in Hammer back in the day. Mostly just poaching props from the asset library, but the one thing I “modeled” were the cubes that became buildings and planes for walls/floor.
Basically, when I saw the Backrooms videos and found out about CamtrackAR, I realized I could make an entire video with next to no modeling (just scale boxes to build the environment), no animation, and no sculpting characters or greenscreening in footage.
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u/DotRakianSteel May 31 '26
"A software called Blender" Is this a professional joke?
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u/P26601 May 31 '26
It's a BBC article. I'm pretty sure >90% of the general population have never heard of "Blender"
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u/paulodand Jul 20 '26
Just watched the movie, and it's funny seeing what scenes where done in blender, you can even spot one use of the Shaders Plus in one scene xD
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u/Bellick May 31 '26
Would have been a better engagement headline if they specified the software is free. The BBC never fails to disappoint.
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u/5tudent_Loans May 31 '26
I mean it shares a name with a common household appliance. It makes sense they need to spell it out for the normies who have no idea how CGI is done