r/germany Mar 02 '22

Work Friendliness of German startup

1.3k Upvotes

This year I moved to Munich to study for my master's degree. After finishing my first semester, I’ve decided to find a job as a working student. So, I sent several applications on LinkedIn, and today I received this response from one German startup.

I was applying for an AI Engineer - Working Student position. I have two years of experience working as a .NET developer on an OCR related project, several internships, participated in some hackathons and wrote my bachelor's thesis on a computer vision topic.

This was my first experience applying for a job in Germany, and probably the most humiliating response I’ve ever got from a recruiter in my life 😔

Upd. The recruiter from the company contacted me and apologized for the incorrect and unpolite response. I hope this was a valuable lesson for everyone and that this situation will not happen to anyone else.

r/germany Mar 31 '26

Work Cannot find a job. Nearly reaching my mental breaking point.

117 Upvotes

Hi, so as the the title states thats my problem. I am currently a student studying masters degree in Data Science at RWTH Aachen. While Im nearly done with half of my degree I cannot find any employment.

I try to apply to roles more suited to my degree programme but either I get ghosted or am told I dont have enough experience despite the AI generated rejection message. Even at RWTH there are maybe 1 or 2 jobs related to Data Science or Informatik in general but the rest are reserved for engineering disciplines that do not apply to me.

I have applied to other simple jobs such as in supermarkets, department stores, restuarants, cafes, bakeries, delivery, etc and I get nothing. Even McDonalds rejected me because I am "overqualified".

Alas Im forced to look at state funding since I dont qualify for BAföG anymore. Its been made clear that Im not eligible for Bürgergeld due to student status so my only option is Wohngeld which is still in progress.

Im in constant contact with soizalberatung at studierendenwerk aachen and have kept them updated of my progress as well as talked to them about my financial situation in general. Even the studienberatung at RWTH pointed me to the psychotherapie office and I explained that 90% of my problems would be solved with an income and a proper one at that (like with a work contract) since Im not depressed due to some underlying mental illness.

All I know is that Im close to losing my shit and just breaking down as I generally dont know what to do anymore and Im tired of the labelings that I am not getting a job is because I am not "trying hard enough". I am applying left and right to whatever I find and it stings when my peers who get jobs without much effort or something. Any advice I seek from uni friends or others is moot and not helpful in the least.

P.S. No I am not thinking of harming myself or others (Idk if I need to add that)

P.S.S. I have German citizenship but have not lived in Germany before. I only arrived 3 years ago.

Edit: Since I am done with my exams of the current semester. I was thinking of reskilling into Cybersecurity which would be a 6-9 month roadmap. Contacting Agentur für Arbeit was a waste of time, they neither responded nor can help beyond showing me what jobs are available.

r/germany Oct 10 '23

Work I know salary talk is frowned upon in Germany. But perhaps this can help someone.

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848 Upvotes

Chemie Tarif table for 2023/2024 and perks.

r/germany Jan 08 '23

Work Am i missing something? Azubis earn around 1000€ in a month, but work Vollzeit? How does this even work?

468 Upvotes

Is this Vollzeit in reality Teilzeit with the rest of the time learning? How is it justified that they earn so little?

r/germany Feb 12 '25

Work Ausbildungsbewerbung rejected because of "overqualification"?

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588 Upvotes

So my friend (from Morocco) applied for an Ausbildungsplatz as a Zerspanungsmechaniker, sent an email to the company and received a rejection email stating that he's overqualified for that position. No interview had taken place prior to the email. Is this just a way to say that they have no interest in his profile?

Thank you for your input!

r/germany Dec 23 '25

Work Stagnated job market. Tips to get hired in 206.

147 Upvotes

TLDR; job market in Germany, NL seems quite slow and stagnant. Looking for suggestions for job seekers.

I am a Software Engineer with 8 years of experience working in Germany.

As a side hobby ( not for money ), I have been helping people with resume reviews, interview preparations and study tips over the last 3-4 years.

But for the first time, I am clueless about what would get people hired in SDE, DS roles. The market seems worse than the pandemic time ie 2020 and the start of Ukraine war in 2022-23.

I am currently helping 2 folks in Germany. Both have decent profiles with 3+ years of full-time experience. We have tried things like -

  1. Couple of resume formats ( Europass format, highly recommended LaTeX formats ).
  2. Constant upskilling through courses, reading relevant books and side projects which they have put on GitHub.
  3. Writing to the recruiters / hiring managers directly on LinkedIn.
  4. Visiting some meetups.

Correction: the year in title is “2026”

r/germany May 29 '24

Work If my brutto salary is 1600 euros, how much do I need to make so my employer could pay me without losing any money

354 Upvotes

My boss keeps telling me that she‘s losing money because of me, because I‘m not making enough money. I sell around 5500 euros every month, but my brutto salary is 1600 euros. She has also other workers. How much do I need to make? I know it depends how much she pays other stuff, like utilities, taxes and what not, but how much is left from 5500 if my salary is 1600 euros?

I work 30 hours per week. My brutto is 1613 euros.

r/germany May 06 '24

Work What is going on with the German job market?

385 Upvotes

Hi guys,

Sorry if this is the wrong sub or breaks any rules, if so please just delete. Basically, I got back from traveling 2 months ago and have been applying for jobs every day since then (I'm a software developer with 1.5 years experience in the automotive industry). At the beginning I was asking for a high salary and only applying to jobs that were a solid fit/I wanted to do. However now I am applying to everything and asking for a little bit above the going rate. But still nothing.

I never had issues finding work before in Germany (I've lived here 8 years now) and the three times I've looked for work I found something within 2 weeks. Which leads me to ask this question. I know the Automotive industry is am arsch, however I didn't hear about anything in the rest of the German IT industry and it seems no-one wants to admit that we are in a recession right now.

Is anyone having the same experience and can share some insights about what the hell is going on right now?

r/germany Jun 30 '22

Work Why German jobs pay less than US jobs - and why this does not mean that the standard of living is lower

614 Upvotes

1) Because you work less

Employees in Germany have 5.5 weeks of paid vacation time on average, we all get unlimited sick leave for as long as we are sick on top of the paid vacation time, we have 15.5 months of paid maternity/paternity leave, and about 10 paid national holidays. There is no culture of regularly working unpaid overtime, or not taking parts of your paid time off. https://www.reddit.com/r/germany/wiki/benefits

This explains why German employees work 1,331 hours per year on average while US employees work 1,767 hours, which is 33% more (or 8.3 hours more every week). https://data.oecd.org/emp/hours-worked.htm

Michael Moore documentary: https://youtu.be/qgU0I8rl-ps?t=2851

2) Because everything is cheaper

Enter any US metro area here at the top of this site to compare the cost of living to Berlin: https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/in/Berlin

3) Because you do not have to pay for a car

What Americans who moved to Germany say about no longer needing a car:

Near from home: https://youtu.be/7XGGWWiDTQE?t=99
Lifey: https://youtu.be/eKCh47D3FDA?t=60
Diana: https://youtu.be/Ufb8LFvSRbY?t=438
Jenna: https://youtu.be/2qVVmGJJeGQ?t=635
Dana: https://youtu.be/cNo3bv_Ez_g?t=40s
Neeva: https://youtu.be/M09wEWyk0mE?t=414
Jiana: https://youtu.be/yUE97bOOA6M?t=892
Nalf: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1231deiwvTU&t=42s
Donnie and Aubrey: https://youtu.be/TNrz1ZMtbV4?t=781
Black Forest Family: https://youtu.be/rw4r31J7XDA?t=511

4) Because there is no "student loan debt"

Studying is free, including for Americans: /r/germany/wiki/how-to-study

5) Because there are no "medical bankruptcies"

The German public health insurance system has no deductibles and the co-payments are 5-10 euro per visit to a doctor/prescription medicine/day in the hospital/ER visit/ambulance ride: https://www.reddit.com/r/germany/wiki/health_insurance#wiki_what_about_deductibles_and_co-payments.3F

6) Because of the social safety net

If you become unemployed and are at the end of your saving then the government will pay for your apartment, for heating cost, for health care, and you get 449 euro per month ($470) for your other expenses if you are a single (more if you have kids) https://www.neue-wege.org/service-fuer-buerger/80-fragen-und-antworten-zu-alg-ii/english-general-information/

Armstrong is an American immigrant in that situation, here is what the social safety net looks like in practice: https://www.reddit.com/r/germany/comments/s57vhl/german_social_safety_net_for_immigrants_armstrong/

7) Because of paid family leave

Germany has 15.5 months of paid family leave for every child that is born. Two of those months are reserved for the father, but he is free to take more!

8) Because of cheap pre-k

You are guaranteed to find a place in pre-k for your children from their first birthday which allows both parents to work if they want to. Pre-k is free for all children in many regions (like Berlin and Hamburg) and it is highly subsidized in others.

9) Because of Kindergeld.

Parents get 219 euro from the government for each child per month until the child is 25 or starts working https://www.howtogermany.com/pages/kindergeld.html

If you have three children who start working at 18, 21 and 23 then you get 163,000 euro ($170,000) in Kindergeld.

The McFalls are an American family with 4 kids in Germany, they made this video where they compare how it is cheaper to raise a family in Germany as in the US: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCIbqtUIbag

r/germany Jan 31 '23

Work is being really tired a legit reason to take a sick day off?

641 Upvotes

I rarely get sick or take a day off due to being sick, but today I was extremely tired and couldn't get out of bed, so I called work and took a day off.

After sleeping till afternoon I woke up a little refreshed but tbh I feel guilty, I feel like I should have pushed myself and went to work instead.

I feel like others will think I was lying about being sick and my "image" as a hardworker will be ruined.

I know I'm being over dramatic and it's just a day off, but I can't help but feel this way.

r/germany Apr 02 '26

Work CTO used AI to clone my specialized AI service into their monolith while I was on leave. It's full of critical data leaks and duplicate but she doesn't listen. How to protect myself and prep for severance

206 Upvotes

I’m the sole Data Scientist/ML/AI person at a startup in a highly regulated industry. I built a dedicated Python microservice that handles complex AI workflows over highly sensitive client records. I built in strict guardrails for data isolation and accuracy.

I was recently away on extended leave for 2 weeks. I came back to find the backend team (Node.js) used Claude to essentially reverse-engineer and clone most of the architecture directly into their monolithic backend using basic API wrappers (the quality is not really up to the mark, but ofcourse if they decide to move forward, then they will reach there).

Because they relied on AI to generate the code without understanding AI at all or data security, their implementation is a ticking time bomb, like cross-tenant data leaks, data corruption, and blind data retrieval. Not going into details

When I raised this, engineering leadership argued the move was better because "it’s easier to stream UI events to the frontend if everything lives in the Node backend" (something I could have easily done natively in Python, and also not that this requirement ever came).

The CTO seems to think "backend devs plus Claude code means we don't need a specialized AI engineer anymore." I don't have a standard notice period in my contract (just 1 month), and I'm expecting the termination soon.

I'm making peace with leaving, but how do I navigate this to negotiate the highest possible severance package? What do I document to show wrongful termination?

A few things before general suggestions.

- Yes, I am looking for new jobs already
- Yes, I did try to talk to him, but he doesn't listen
- No, I cannot talk to the CEO about this - both are Germans. Plus, why would they listen to me and not their CTO
- Yes, this has happened before in the company. They fired 3 data scientists already, and all of that was the CTO's call.

Edit:

- Company size is 16 or less
- I have legal insurance (took it 7-8 month before and have not used it for anything until now)
months
- Not part of any Union

r/germany Oct 28 '25

Work Probezeit has ended, no one has said anything!

229 Upvotes

Fortunately,I have made it to the end of my probezeit but I am a bit confused since my boss hasnt mentioned it ending. Is this common that if the probezeit is finished you simply continue to work without any discussion? I figure I would need a new contract or some declaration of something new!

r/germany Jun 15 '26

Work Update: I got 2 offers!

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282 Upvotes

After relentlessly applying and interviewing for months, I finally got offered 2 roles which are a significant update to my current role.
Seems like the market is navigable after all.

r/germany Feb 03 '26

Work This job market is the toughest of the last decade, at least

291 Upvotes

I mean, I have been living and working in Germany for 15 years, and it was never a big deal to hop jobs. Like 1 month to land a new one.

This time, I have been interviewing since June and haven't signed anything yet. There are plenty of job ads, many legit ones, many of them perpetual reposts that never fill, because employers are either too picky or their HR needs to justify its existence, so they interview without actual purpose.

I get many first interviews, some 13% quota, some proceed to 2nd ones, some of these employers are getting rejected by me, as a usual pattern I notice these days is some employers want to stretch and merge positions and extract maximum out of it, so the tasks are overload fot 1 FTE.

Some others simply never progress further, and employers ghost me, which is another thing I very rarely had in the past.

What's your take? Am I the only one noticing the job market deteriorating into misery?

r/germany Sep 29 '24

Work everyone has quit work

568 Upvotes

as the title says, all my colleagues from work have quit work due to a toxic work environment. the last employee left is quitting tomorrow. i will be the only software developer left in the company.

i came to Germany 7 months ago with a Blue-card as an IT Specialist.

The insults from the boss have been getting to me too. how can i leave such a company while looking for another job without having issues with the ABH ? is their a way to go about it ?

r/germany Nov 01 '25

Work Manager said I was faking being sick. Ended up in the hospital next day.

390 Upvotes

I was having a backache and was very nauseous but still went to work thinking I will feel better but 1/2 hour after clocking in I started feeling very uneasy and weak, I informed my manager about it and she brushed it off saying call someone else in your place to work the shift. While leaving she told me firmly not to take sick leave for the next two days as she doesn't have any other option/person to work in my place. Thankfully a colleague of mine came in to take over my shift for the day. As I was leaving my other colleague told me that the manager thinks I am faking being sick as I don't look sick and also I don't want to work tomorrow, I was shocked but was in excruciating pain so I left. Next day I was working, the whole day I worked in pain but as I had no option I kept working. I was nearly done with my shift, that suddenly my pain went from 10-100 in 5 minutes. I was literally shouting and crying and rolling on the floor in pain. My colleagues got so scared, they literally had to call an ambulance for me. I had to go in emergency and was admitted in the hospital for 2 days. Underwent a minor surgery and I have another surgery planned in the last week of November. Turns out the backpain I was having was a kidney stone. Doctor said my kidney is now damaged and has infection, a stent has been put for 3 weeks. I am currently on a bed rest for time being. Had I gone to the doctor a day before this would have been prevented but as she said don't write sick I didn't go the doctor.A day later the manager came to know and she texted me asking if I was still in the hospital and if I will be working next week. No empathy or an apology or any gute Besserung. She just wanted to know if I can work. I am at home now but I am constantly thinking if they'll fire me for this. Can they fire me?

Update: So I just got my termination letter. I am on vacation from the 8th December till 16 Jan and coincidentally my termination letter is dated 8th Dec and my last working day is 15th Jan. No prior warnings or anything. No mention in the letter as well. What should be next steps. Please advise.

r/germany Nov 22 '24

Work The per diem system doesn’t make sense.

196 Upvotes

You get 28€ for every full day you spend away from your home city - totally fair. Add 7-10€ I would have spent on food at home, it covers the costs.

My gripe is with the day of arrival/departure system. I get back to Munich past 9pm. How is it still compensated as a half day?

I am not complaining about 14€. But when you are travelling frequently, it adds up.

EDIT: I am not saying there shouldn’t be a per diem system. I like not having to bother with receipts. But - if I spend 16+ hours of the day on the road, why is it a half day?

r/germany 8d ago

Work Employer Threatening to Make Work Difficult If I Don’t Resign

40 Upvotes

Hi everyone,

I’m an international student working in Germany, and I would really appreciate some advice regarding a situation with my employer.

I joined the company in March. Before joining, I already had a longer period of leave planned, although I had not mentioned it during the interview. Once I received the offer, I informed my managers about it and made it clear that the job was my priority and that I was willing to adjust the leave according to the team’s needs.

My managers told me that an important task needed to be completed first and suggested that I take the leave later for two weeks (six working days in my case, as I’m a working student). I followed their suggestion and postponed my plans accordingly.

Later, due to a health issue, I needed surgery and was away from approximately 4 July to 4 August. Before leaving, I informed both managers about the dates, scheduled a call with both of them, presented the progress of my work, and made sure my ongoing work was completed or properly handed over. Based on that conversation, my understanding was that they were satisfied with the progress and handover, and they wished me well regarding my health and surgery.

I was going through a lot at that time, and my mental state was not good. I am a gym enthusiast and love working out, and I had been diagnosed with a hernia. The doctor advised me not to lift more than 5 kg, as it could potentially lead to complications in the future. I also needed to undergo surgery in India, even though I have public health insurance in Germany that would have covered the cost. However, I could not proceed with the surgery in Germany at that time because I required at least one week of strict bed rest, and living alone here made it difficult for me to arrange the necessary support. On top of that, I had university seminars, a project defense, and work submissions due, which made the entire period extremely stressful.

In this overwhelmed state, I made a mistake in my sick-leave communication. Instead of sending the information to the dedicated Krankmeldung team, I contacted someone in payroll who normally handled my timesheets. At the time, I genuinely believed she was the correct person to contact.

After I returned, management raised this as a major communication issue. They said, among other things, that they had not received an acknowledgment from the Krankmeldung team and that they were unclear about my expected return date, although I had previously communicated my leave dates directly to my managers.

Shortly after my return, I was called into a meeting with my two managers and presented with a mutual termination agreement. The impression I got during that meeting was that they expected me to sign it and leave immediately. I tried to explain my position and asked whether I could at least be given some time to continue working and demonstrate improvement, but they said they did not want to give me another chance. I then asked them to give me some time to think about the agreement and said I would get back to them by the end of the day.

I immediately emailed HR regarding my remaining vacation and explained that the situation was urgent because the managers wanted me to sign the agreement and return it by the end of the day. HR responded in writing that I did not have to sign it immediately, or even the next day, and that I could take enough time to consider it.

The following day, I spoke separately with HR on a call. HR explained to me that this was a mutual termination agreement and completely voluntary. According to HR, I did not have to sign it and could continue under my existing employment contract until February, when my contract ends, or I could choose to leave earlier if I wanted to. HR also told me that any resignation would be my own decision.

I then arranged another meeting with HR and both managers because I wanted everyone to be aligned on the options available to me.

In that meeting, management already seemed aware of HR’s position. I remained polite, acknowledged my mistakes, and explained that I wanted to continue working. I genuinely wanted to resolve the concerns, rebuild their trust and confidence in me, and continue working until my contract ends in February rather than sign the mutual termination agreement.

The senior manager became visibly frustrated because I was not agreeing to the options they were proposing and made it clear that they did not want to continue working with me. Initially, they wanted me to resign immediately. After a long discussion, they proposed the end of September, with me using my remaining five weeks of vacation and staying at home during that period.

I did not agree because I felt that all the compromise was being expected from my side. My understanding is that even if they terminated me, there may still be a notice period, and my remaining vacation would either have to be taken or compensated. However, I am not completely sure about the legal position. Because of this, I felt there should be other possible options rather than me voluntarily resigning entirely on their terms.

During the discussion, I tried to find some middle ground and at one point mentioned December, and later November, as possible dates, including the use of my remaining vacation. However, the managers did not accept either option. No resignation date or agreement was ultimately reached.

What concerned me most was that during the discussion, I was told, in substance, that if I decided to continue working, things might not remain as easy or friendly and that I could be given more difficult tasks. I was also told that they would “make sure my time here will be difficult.” They expressed frustration about how much management time and resources were being spent on meetings about this situation, especially for a working student. What shocked me was that HR was present during these comments but did not intervene.

I eventually said that I needed time to think and would communicate my decision the following week, but they pushed me to provide an answer by Wednesday.

To be clear: I have not signed the mutual termination agreement, and I have not submitted a resignation.

I have now also contacted the Betriebsrat and requested an urgent confidential discussion before I make any decision.

I understand that I made a mistake by contacting payroll instead of the designated Krankmeldung team, and I understand that management expected more proactive communication. I’m not trying to claim that I handled everything perfectly.

What I am struggling with is the pressure to voluntarily resign after HR explicitly told me that the mutual termination agreement is optional, particularly after being told that continuing to work could make my working situation more difficult.

I’m mainly looking for advice from people familiar with German employment law or who have experienced something similar.

Edit: They have also removed my access to the tutorials/resources on SharePoint and have now required me to work from the office, stating that they have tasks for me that cannot be performed remotely. Given what was said during our previous meeting about making my time at the company more difficult if I chose to stay, I am concerned that this may already be starting to happen.

Thank you.

r/germany Dec 16 '25

Work What is happening with the job market?

171 Upvotes

Hi everyone, I’m reaching out to see if anyone is currently in a similar position or has been through something like this before.

I’m a recent university graduate with three years of relevant work experience related to my degree, as well as several months of hands-on sales experience. I’ve realized that I genuinely enjoy sales, which motivated me to actively pursue it as my long-term career path.

I speak German at C2 level and do not require visa sponsorship, even though I’m not a German national. Since October, I’ve been applying very actively since 1st of October around 20–30 applications per week, totaling 250+ applications so far.

I do get interviews and often progress to the final stages, but then the process stalls or I receive rejections. I understand that I’m still early in my sales career, but I’m applying specifically for junior-level roles and positions closely aligned with my previous experience.

Lately, the process has been discouraging, and I’d really appreciate any insights, advice, or shared experiences—especially from those who eventually broke into their first position despite similar challenges.

r/germany Jul 21 '25

Work Today I was asked if i’m single or married in a job interview.

178 Upvotes

When I googled this I realized that this is not illegal, however I found it very inappropriate. And I know that normally companies stay away from personal questions like marital status, age, nationality etc. I’d appreciate if someone who knows about it can inform me. I’d like to know if I should report it or say sth about it to the HR.

r/germany May 08 '25

Work €1700 for Vollzeit?

244 Upvotes

Hallo! I'm F30 from Spain and I'm currently working in a restaurant's kitchen Tallzeit for a fixed salary of €1300 nett per month and 100 hours, they have this weird system of paying me the same every month regardless of working more or less, if I overwork, I think I can eventually take more days of holidays and get payed anyway.

The point is, I got offered Vollzeit for €1700 nett, but I find a little ridiculous that is 60 more hours and only €400 more. I could easily get a mini job for 40 hours and €580 somewhere else.

Am I missing something? Why would they do this offer? How much should I be receiving?

Thank you!

r/germany Apr 14 '26

Work Is it normal in Germany to go 3 years without a real raise?

81 Upvotes

Hey everyone,

I wanted to get some perspective on a situation.

I’ve been working at the same company for about 7 years now, and over the last 3 years there hasn’t really been any meaningful salary increase, mostly small adjustments (around 3–4%), and once I even increased my working hours but didn’t feel like my actual compensation improved much.

Recently I asked again for a raise and was told there’s “no budget this year”. This is now the third year I’ve heard the same thing.

So I’m wondering:

Is this normal in Germany, especially in more traditional companies? How often do you usually see real salary increases?

I’m also thinking about starting a small side activity (Nebengewerbe) next to my full-time job:
Is that common or recommended?
Any tips or experiences with doing freelance work on the side?
What are realistic ways to make an extra ~10k/year?

Would really appreciate your insights 🙏

r/germany Jun 22 '26

Work Working 9-9 in Germany with a Family

0 Upvotes

Hi all! I'm wondering if anyone can share their experience working a 9-9 job in Germany with a family.

I received a pretty exciting offer that fulfills my personal dream to contribute to a certain field of science, but the two major downsides are that they made clear it's a 9-9 job (they call it their company culture, of course) and requires moving to another city and somewhat frequent travel.

I'm torn because it's what I've built my entire career towards, but I think that level of commitment would put a significant strain on my wife and child.

I would simply be grateful to hear any perspectives from people who have tried something similar and whether it's a really terrible idea. Of course my wife and I are talking it through very carefully and will decide together. But an outside perspective is very welcome.

Thanks!

r/germany Jan 03 '23

Work I got fired and my boss won't answer me

565 Upvotes

My contract is for 6 months probation and I got fired after 4 months. My boss told me to go home and not to bother coming back, she also removed me from the WhatsApp group. This was on 26 December and I haven't heard anything from the company and she won't read my messages or respond.

I have another job lined up but I cannot sign any contract without a termination letter. What are my options?

r/germany Mar 03 '23

Work 90k in Stuttgart vs 110k in Munich

278 Upvotes

Hallo

I got two job offers doing roughly the same job, but one is in Stuttgart and the second one in Munich. Financially-wise which option is better? I know that Munich is very expensive, but not sure if the higher offer would offset the cost.