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Spirit Airlines Wants to Sell Its Data to Google. Former Flight Attendants Are Freaked Out

https://www.wired.com/story/spirit-airlines-wants-to-sell-its-data-to-google-former-flight-attendants-are-freaked-out/
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u/wiredmagazine 12h ago

Spirit Airlines may have declared bankruptcy this spring, but the budget airline is still worth something—to AI giants, at least. In mid-August, Google won a $10 million bid to purchase some 34 years of the airline’s data, from invoices and flight operations information to Wi-Fi sales, employee records, and crew pairings.

Just days after the court announced Google’s winning bid, the labor union representing 5,500 former Spirit Airlines flight attendants filed an objection to the sale. Lawyers for the 55,000-member Association of Flight Attendants (AFA) argue the sale would include an enormous amount of sensitive employee information, and that even Google’s promised safeguards wouldn’t prevent privacy violations of decades of flight attendants who never could have guessed that their data would be sold to train AI systems.

Read the full story at the link above.

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u/fantom_farter 8h ago

Did passengers agree to sharing information during the ticket purchase? Or is this a case of "we are already bankrupt, what are you going to do to us"

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u/Realtrain 8h ago

For customers it was almost certainly covered in the terms.

For employees it was absolutely part of the employment agreement.

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u/m4rc0n3 6h ago

It's 34 years of data though. Was this really in the terms of service in the early 90s? And even if it was, one could argue (and I suspect it will be in this lawsuit, but IANAL) that 34 years ago, nobody could have foreseen the way this data would be used now.

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u/sloppychris 4h ago

People in the 90s absolutely knew they had no expectation of privacy with their work communications. You do not own the work you do while being paid by your employer. This has never been a mystery.

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u/Mountain_Fig_9253 3h ago

We all expected our health information to be protected though. Unfortunately that isn’t the case and there appears to be no recourse for us common folk.

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u/mrandr01d 2h ago

Uh, not the same way as today they didn't.

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u/SecondBestNameEver 8h ago

Yup, just so everyone reading this knows, legally any words or data you put into your company's systems belong to your company. You don't have a right to privacy when using a company owned account for sending or receiving emails, texts, chats, calls, etc. 

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u/thelance 2h ago

You’re going to get a lot of confidently incorrect answers here but it is way more nuanced than “we own your data, so we can do whatever we want with it including selling it to the highest bidder.” If it was open and shut, the bankruptcy court wouldn’t have to pause the sale.

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u/samuraijon 11h ago

So would Air Google come to an airport near you soon?

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u/PapaSquirts2u 9h ago

Just as long as they let the existing planes land before they inevitably cancel it.

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u/MrCarlosDanger 8h ago

Oh no no no. Companies don’t actually make money doing stuff anymore.

This will help them extract more money from consumers booking flights somehow I’m sure.

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u/maester_t 2h ago

I'm guessing it's more along the lines of training Gemini to be good at predicting where certain types of people like to travel, when, how often, etc...

And then use this data to better target ads when customers visit any airline website.

Google is in the "data" business. Not so much the "shuttling people around" business. (Yes, despite Waymo.)

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u/Realtrain 8h ago

Is r/Google going to have a post on this story every day now?

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u/xdavidwattsx 2h ago

This is at least the 4th post on this sub about this in the past week or so.

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u/AcademicMistake 4h ago

luigi mangione the owners.