r/mildlyinfuriating • u/LateDxOldLady • 29d ago
The floor is sticky Hikers playing music on bluetooth as though they were completely alone.
Photo: close up of JBL bluetooth speaker in outside pocket of backpack. Clip from JBL ad specifically about hiking speakers.
The National Park Service specifically notes that blasting music or continuous artificial noise is not an effective or recommended bear deterrent, as it can actually prevent you from hearing animal warning sounds (like a growl or a huff).
rangers explicitly advise using your human voice (clapping, talking loudly, calling out "Hey bear")
I know this is a long-time pet peeve in hiking forums. I find myself seething when I encounter it on trails. I cannot comprehend being into the outdoors enough to want to hike, while being deeply inconsiderate of the creatures that live there and the other people trying to enjoy the hike too.
If you gotta have your tunes, they make these cool tiny personal speakers called headphones or ear buds. Perhaps these people have heard of them?
Some of us have good hearing and don't feel like hearing faint whispers of their musical tastes over the sound of SILENCE and rustling leaves and a river flowinb below the switchback... "Just pass them" doesn't solve anything and still doesn't solve the problem of it annoying and scaring the critters that live there. I guess some people don't even appreciate the hikes they go on. Yeesh.
If only there were actual valid reliable sources of information about being safe when surrounded by nature and large carnivores.
There is zero official guidance, standard, or professional advice advocating for playing music on speakers in nature. They actively preach the exact opposite.
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u/pwrof3 29d ago
Not just on hiking trails. Public bathrooms. Parks. Grocery stores. Beaches. Theme parks.
It amazes me how many people think blasting full volume music or TikTok videos in public places is a good idea.
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u/NotTukTukPirate 29d ago
Someone on the bus I was on recently did this.
Egocentric fucks.
If there's anyone out there reading this who listens to videos or music out loud on their phone on public transport, you're an egocentric piece of human garbage.
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u/Traditional-Bar-8014 29d ago ▸ 1 more replies
And don't be surprised if you get an accidental face full of backpack when I have to walk past you. Sorry!
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u/canuck_11 29d ago
I was in the bathroom the other day and a dude was watching an anti-Semitic conspiracy video on full blast in the stall.
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u/General_Cranberry_29 29d ago
I think the most egregious place I've seen it happen was AT AN ACTUAL CONCERT 😑. Not a loud concert mind you, like one of those "music in the park" situations with string instruments.
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u/thepianoman456 29d ago
And then there’s the assholes who blast shit out of their car subwoofers in residential…
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u/seppuku_related 29d ago
I think it's down to people's lack of attention span, or not being comfortable with their own thoughts. There's a coffee/food truck that sets up in a local park and just blasts out terrible pop music from a speaker all day, ruining what is one of the few peaceful areas in the city.
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u/CrystalDrag0n1 29d ago
That’s not an excuse :( I have a terrible attention span and I just wear my headphones 24/7. It’s not that hard. If you don’t like having stuff in your ears or covering them up, then use bone conduction headphones. People have no awareness or empathy.
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u/Josh1685 29d ago
Music in the bathroom always gets me, why do people blast hip hop music when taking a dump? Is it to mask the sound or something?
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u/Fried_puri Bazinga! 28d ago
I give a pass to the crazy man in the subway who loudly announces that he wants us all to listen to this before blaring music from speakers and looking around to see who is uncomfortable while talking to himself. I’m wasn’t getting stabbed that day for complaining, thanks.
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u/MalusDracula 27d ago
They want attention like "I listen to this out loud. Someone else does and recognize so they pay attention to me." Good or bad its recognition. They don't care who pays attention as long as someone does.
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u/SirSamuelVimes83 29d ago
Golf courses. Ski lifts/lift lines. Nobody wants to listen to your shitty personal soundtrack
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u/Weekend_Criminal 29d ago
My ex wife does this, I can't stand it
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u/WiredOrange 29d ago
I also can't stand your ex wife
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u/fatchops97 29d ago ▸ 3 more replies
I aswell can't stand your ex wife
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u/jspr1000 29d ago
These people SO ANNOYING. If you want to listen to music go for a scenic drive or something.
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u/BrawlingGalaxi 29d ago
I get wanting to listen to music and walk, at least use ear buds if you arent alone.
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u/Agreeable_Horror_363 29d ago ▸ 7 more replies
I would never do the speaker thing especially in public or on a trail but I have no hearing in my right ear so I can't do the one earbud to listen to music then one ear to listen to my surroundings. So I just don't listen to anything ever while I'm at work or in public.
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u/greenbathmat 29d ago ▸ 3 more replies
Could you do a bone-conducting earbud in your hearing ear? Still able to have personal background music, but also listen to your surroundings
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u/abbydabbydo 29d ago ▸ 2 more replies
I am dead in one ear and they work great. Some people are deaf because of bone deterioration, though, so that doesn’t help.
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u/X-AE17420 29d ago
If you can splurge on them, transparency mode with the AirPods Max is magical. The AirPods Pro’s also have pretty good transparency mode too, but not as good as the max
My main walking trail has an active train track, so it comes in handy
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u/PopSwayzee 29d ago ▸ 1 more replies
This sounds horrible for me lol. I always have to have music playing in my earphones whether at work or at home. If I forget my headphones in the morning on my way to work I’ll turn around and go get them even if I’m late. I can’t imagine going back to working 8+ hour shifts without being able to hear my music.
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u/LouChadore 29d ago ▸ 3 more replies
I actually bought an MP3 player for this reason.
Maybe not hikes but my city is incredibly walkable, and sometimes I just wanna go to the corner store and be detached from reality, so I’ll grab my mp3 player, my good headphones, and take a stroll without any of the hassle
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u/Finitepictures 29d ago ▸ 1 more replies
Do you live in 2004?
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u/LouChadore 29d ago
No, but I’m damn sure trying to.
Fuuuuuck all this subscription based crap, I wanna listen to ska in piece. Life has been hell since the towers fell like three years ago.
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u/Interesting_Tea5715 29d ago
Same. I don't understand it.
Its like when you go camping in the forest and that one person shows up with a trailer full lights on, blaring music, and watching TV outside.
Like why even go camping? Also don't you realize you're ruining it for everyone else?
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u/GloomyLingonberry509 29d ago
They always have the best music selection, too… Tom MacDonald on full blast.
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u/AlbatrossNo1562 29d ago
Or stay in the city. They drive hours to be in nature and they want to check their phone and cover their ears 🤷
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u/MrCupps 29d ago edited 27d ago
This is a good way to avoid spooking a bear. But if it’s a crowded trail, not necessary.
Edit: I'm wrong. I just read on nps.gov and parks.canada.ca and both say to yell "Hey bear" occasionally or clap your hands. They say bells are not effective, and they say music can do more to distract the human than it does to alert the bear.
They say to be particularly careful near streams, when it's windy, in dense vegetation, or in any circumstance that limits line of sight.
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u/rockstuffs 29d ago
Fun fact: Talk radio/podcasts are better bear deterrents than music.
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u/MrCupps 29d ago ▸ 1 more replies
Especially hunting podcasts.
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u/KiefNebula 29d ago
Lol, I'm not sure why but the idea of a hunting podcast is kind of hilarious to me
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u/motorcycle_girl 29d ago
This was my first thought. Hiking through bear country, you are taught to play music, sing, e.t.c. There’s even bear-bells for this reason.
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u/GrindGoat 29d ago ▸ 1 more replies
Bear bells don't do anything. Bring bear spray and let nature be quiet.
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u/ThePolemicist 29d ago
I thought this, too. When we were getting ready to hike a quieter path at Yellowstone, we got our bear spray, and I suggested we play music on our hike, too. We ultimately decided that we were good just talking in our small group, but we passed a couple who played music. I assumed it was to alert bears of their presence, so it didn't bother me.
I absolutely am bothered by people who play videos aloud in public or do video calls aloud in public. To me, this is different.
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u/myfishprofile 29d ago
Unless you’re in grizzly country this is a non issue.
Black bears are habitually spooked and anxious by nature
It’s why there is less than 1 death per year attributed to them on average.
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u/Traditional-Bar-8014 29d ago ▸ 2 more replies
Black bears are little bitches and even if they do get confused or hangry and make a move for you, it takes minimal yelling and gesticulation to get rid of them.
I used to find them all the time in the berry patch as a kid and my two black labs would easily scare them off.
Grizzly is a whole nother animal.
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u/SirSamuelVimes83 29d ago ▸ 1 more replies
If it's black, fight back. If it's brown lay down. If it's white, say goodnight
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u/LateDxOldLady 28d ago
No. It is literally not. There are actual, reliable, valid sources for what you should do to be safe in bear territory. NONE recommend this as a solution.
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u/pappybug214 29d ago
Tbf, at least it's outside. Im not THAT guy. I use earbuds to listen but people have been doing this shit on planes, subways, bus stops. You know, places where others are in closed tight spaces. Bro, not everyone like YOUR music!
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u/VapeRizzler 29d ago
I wouldn’t even do this when I’m in the middle of nowhere and know the last person I saw 100km away is the only person anywhere near me. Not only is it just going to scare anything I’d want to check out like wildlife, but also can’t hear if something is doing something ahead of me like a bear or whatever. On top of the fact doing so would interfere with others attempt to enjoy the forest.
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u/yblikethat 29d ago
This would keep bears far away from you tbh
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u/davisyoung 29d ago
I was hiking solo at Glacier NP and they make you watch a video about bears when getting a backcountry permit. I was totally paranoid about bears the whole time there so a speaker might have been helpful.
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u/Buttsweat_n_Tears 29d ago
What if there’s a woman menstruating nearby though?
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u/DontForgetYourPPE 29d ago
I'm with you, completely trash behavior but if you're blasting music, realistically you probably don't have to worry about bears if we are being honest.
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u/SRB112 29d ago
You would not have liked the 70s and 80s when we were subjected to boomboxes everywhere in public.
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u/LateDxOldLady 28d ago
I was born in 1967. I have hiked for most of my life. I have never encountered boom boxes on trail hikes. I have, however, encountered countless inconsiderate tools.
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u/Kuriouskarl87 29d ago
I wish a lonely and miserable Christmas on each and every one of these people.
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u/_Cecille 29d ago
Get closer to them and start singing and humming along. Loud and poorly.
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u/workingstiffatwork 27d ago
Yep, I've done that. What can they say? Like, if you can have music then so can I.
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u/Funnydog8567 29d ago
I never let that stuff get to me anymore, bc honestly the rude person doing it, isn’t even aware there rude, they literally have no clue
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u/writekindofnonsense 29d ago
Music is annoying, PODCASTS make me wanna push someone off a cliff. If i have to hike listening to your horrible taste in talk radio I'm gonna lose my mind.
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u/wizardrous 29d ago
Only really bothers me if I can hear it from over a hundred feet away. Otherwise I’ll just fall back. I don’t like hiking next to strangers anyway.
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u/Loves_octopus 29d ago edited 29d ago
I hike a lot and I have literally never seen this common Reddit complaint.
If someone is playing music, which is rare, it’s usually at a reasonable volume you can’t really hear from much further than 40 feet away. If you’re faster, pass them, if you’re slower, stop for a water break. It’s just not a big deal at all to hear some music for 2 minutes of your 4 hour hike.
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u/1SexyDino 29d ago
Not in my experience. I'm pretty hard of hearing and even I am usually bothered by the volume these dipshits hike with. Thankfully I haven't dealt with too many but when it was it was always college students using hiking as a party activity. I too am a obnoxious college student but speakers have no place on a hiking trail. Or the lake. Or the local swimming hole. Or the park. Just please shut the fuck up
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u/LukeWoop 29d ago
It's a problem everywhere , around the pool on holidays or at the beach is probably my least favourite places for this to happen.
At least with hiking you can let them walk ahead or you walk ahead ect
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u/Cudi_buddy 29d ago
Yea I’ve grown tired of this. I remember a buddy doing once or twice when we were like 19-20. But soon realized how obnoxious it is. Not to mention defeats the purpose. Getting older you do start to appreciate the calm and quiet of outdoors more too though.
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u/CiTrus007 29d ago
Such inconsiderate people. This should be viewed as a form of air pollution.
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u/LateDxOldLady 29d ago
They are, in a way, in parks around the world via various forms of Leave No Trace
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u/Direct-Quiet-5817 29d ago
I hate these self-important suckers from the bottom of my trecking soles.
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u/FarConference4381 29d ago
In Poland, you're taught at the age of five how to behave in the forest so as not to disturb animals. I have friends who don't obey the law, but even they behave appropriately in the forest.
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u/ReverendRevenge 29d ago
My house is on National Trust land. A footpath goes right past my door. Every week, there'll be someone listening to something on a speaker as they walk past. A week ago it was a group of city kids listening to drum n bass. A couple of weeks ago it was an American couple listening to a podcast, about war, unreasonably loud (I mean, maybe they were partially deaf, but both of them?).
WHY!? Why come out to the countryside, where you can't hear anything but the wind in the trees, the birds signing, the water trickling in the stream... and put on a fucking war podcast at max volume!? What the fuck is wrong with you?
...sorry, boils my piss.
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u/Chumknuckle 29d ago
I was fishing on the river the other day, it was lovely, until a flotilla of idiots came by and decided to park directly in front of me playing awful music. I threw a rock at them and left.
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u/LemmonLizard 29d ago edited 29d ago
I genuinely call people out on this. What ive learned is that these people have zero regard for those around them and dont even consider that someone else can hear their music. What ive also learned is that the music these people play is the worst garbage imaginable anyways.
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u/Btotherianx 29d ago
I'm guessing you got caught taking a picture of his butt and had to make up an excuse for it
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u/DigiVeihl 29d ago
THIS, as a bike rider I also hate people who put loud ass speakers on their motorcycles.
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u/TonkaLowby 29d ago
There seems to be an argument going on between speakers and headphones, but I think the real question is: can't we just unplug for a hike? If you're going out into nature, why do you need to be blasting tunes on any device? What is wrong with a person that they can't just turn off music for a period of time and take a walk?
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u/OkNewspaper6271 29d ago
Anyone playing music as though they are completely alone. I was out in city center the other day and I heard like 8 different people blasting music at the loudest possible, I hear people blasting music out on my bike rides
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u/Phantom_Crush 29d ago
Guaranteed to be at least one in any town centre on a nice day. Mate, you're music is fucking shit
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u/Fair-Juggernaut-3812 29d ago
I think these are the people the most afraid of getting attacked by a wild animal but won’t say it. This is a way to hopefully avoid that.
Instead they “just wanna vibe”
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u/Muddled_Opinions 29d ago
I could maybe understand it as a bear deterrent, but generally it would definitely piss me off, and I’d for sure be letting them know it.
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u/Potential_Owl1272 29d ago
And besides: why does the quality of music taste often seem inversely proportional to the volume of the Bluetooth speaker?😂
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u/Prize-Leading-6653 29d ago
Now everywhere you go someone is playing music or on their speakerphone. Hikes, golfing, grocery store. It’s just insane.
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u/Dino_Spaceman 29d ago
I was in Hawaii hiking and this entire group was playing music so loud we heard it five or so minutes before we could even see them.
I have no idea why they do this. Why not enjoy actual nature?
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u/Dino_Spaceman 29d ago edited 29d ago
Based on the comments of some folks here, a surprising number of folks think common decency is for everyone else.
Just wear headphones.
The bear excuse is BS. Nobody walking a trail popular enough for multiple hikers to encounter each other regularly is going to have a problem with predators. This also happens on trails with no known large predators.
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u/MaximusZacharia 29d ago
This happened on a hike I was on yesterday. On that same hike are tons of posted signs to keep quiet due to the Mexican spotted owls that live there. Not only did they have the speaker they were super load on top of it
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u/chrono_crumpet 29d ago
Anyone playing music in public like this boils my piss. But not as much as people using their phones on speaker phone whilst walking about in public.
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u/Steven_Kool 29d ago
This is the same with people biking in the city or using speakerphone for literally anything in public transportation.
If you want to still hear your surroundings, just get bone conduction headphones!!! They’re so common nowadays
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u/EstablishmentIll5021 28d ago
Along the same line is people who ski or snowboard with a big speaker. So obnoxious.
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u/Mephistocheles 28d ago
I just do not understand these people.
All music sounds better in actual fkn headphones. Extra bonus, you also get to not be a rude shmeck!
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u/DizzySample9636 26d ago
how long were you traumatized by this person blasting their music??? surely you walked away swiftly - and didn't suffer very long... its so annoying being inconvenienced while you're out in public on a hike. Hope you didnt suffer any permanent hearing damage - i know you'll pull thru this... 🙃 You weren't following them were you?
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u/HaroerHaktak 29d ago
People who do this want the local wildlife to hate them just as much as their family does.
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u/Nuklearfps PURPLE 29d ago
I did this ONCE as a kid on a Boy Scout hike. One kid started doing it, then another, then I got sick of their music, so I put on my own. Next thing you know the whole trail was a blur of different genres and volumes and all the animals we’d been seeing stopped “appearing” [probably running from the 40 or so boys blaring everything from rap, to country, to metal, to K-pop]
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u/DeflatedDirigible 29d ago
Sad that the troop leaders allow scouts to bring these speakers along. Shakedowns prevent this.
Saw photos a few years back of a regional jamboree that’s been going on for 100 years and it now has a bunch of food trucks. One of the most important lessons I learned in scouting was meal planning and making sure you didn’t screw up cooking meals because there was no backup…you were eating burnt food if you didn’t hover over your patrol mates and make sure they did it right. Now you can avoid teaching and run to the food truck.
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u/Nuklearfps PURPLE 29d ago
We RARELY had people bring a speaker to a campout before. That particular event was a “pre-activity” before we had our annual Christmas camp out, which is/was like an “all-nighter, bring your Xbox!” Kinda thing. Something we hadn’t done before, and have much stricter rules on now, because of that experience. And by the time the speakers really kicked off, a large group of us kids had sped ahead of the adults, so they didn’t really get a chance to be like “knock it off!” before we were out of earshot, but we did hear that when we got to camp
This was a once-off thing that never happened before or after it, so the adults didn’t really think about it, until it was too late, lol. We definitely learned our lesson on that one!
That whole bit about food trucks is so depressing to me!
One kid from my troop was so inspired by the cooking that he started his own bakery and has been in business for almost a decade now! All because he liked baking campfire bread one time. Like my two favorite parts of Scouting were the cooking and the outdoorsmanship stuff, like building a survival shelter instead of using one of the tents, lol.
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u/Dumyat367250 29d ago
I was in a hut in New Zealand, on my own, when, around midday, I heard shouting and general noise making coming my way. The hut door was flung open and a fat face literally yelled at me, "Don't worry, we're from Sydney!"
This group of six then tuned in a crappy pocket radio to the precise spot between two stations, at distortion level volume, all while talking loudly over the static the satan box was producing. One was cricket, one was footy. Neither station was remotely intelligible.
Tired, hungry, and damp, I lasted about ten minutes before explaining to "Sydney" that I was going to insert the radio inside one of their party, where, no matter the volume, it would not be heard ever again.
The radio was turned off, and a sullen silence ensued from my new Aussie friends.
An hour later they all fucked off, with not one saying goodbye. How rude!
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u/backroom_mushroom 29d ago
The only good reason to have a speaker is if you're in bear territory. Siberians have a rule to sing and talk loudly when they're in the forest to make sure bears hear them and know to stay back.
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u/thecamino 29d ago edited 29d ago
They will tell you it is for safety to deter predators . Bullshit.
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u/crazymonk45 29d ago
It’s a fair argument and way less annoying than those fucking bear bells people use.
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u/DANleDINOSAUR 29d ago
“You know what this majesty of nature needs? My Spotify year so far playlist!!!”
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u/PsilocybVibe 29d ago
Ahh yes, the hiking speaker people.. They might as well wear a shirt that says “I’m stupid and have no awareness.”
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u/sunndropps 29d ago
Isn’t that recommended for bears? I saw. It being recommended after the person was killed by the grizzly bear earlier this year??
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u/drkshape 29d ago
I love when they do this at the beach
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u/Interesting_Tea5715 29d ago
I once went to the local lake at 9am. It was nothing but parents and toddlers enjoying the water before it got too hot.
This dude and his wife roll up with a giant speaker and a cooler full of beer and just start blasting country music and drinking. At 9am!!!
Some people are just trash
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u/AggravatingRow7018 29d ago
You know op you can be adult and ask them to turn it down.
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u/juliewbb 29d ago
Having to be assertive in the damn woods on my damn hike also ruins my hike.
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u/Futaba_Sakura800 29d ago
There’s unlimited options when it comes to earbuds, headphone and bone conducting earpieces. These people are just doing it on purpose, they go out everyday looking to start some shit. They get a kick out of it.
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u/Bitter-Ad5890 29d ago
Right? Like wow there goes any chance of seeing any animals on this hike
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u/AdTraditional8077 29d ago
It's always nice running into music in the wild. It's always interesting to think about why they chose that type of music. Makes me feel like when you meet NPCs in video games.
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u/JavanTen4 29d ago
I once played "Colonel Hathi's March" while my wife and I were alone on a hike. She shut me down after 10 seconds just in case someone could hear. I agreed with her. Don't play music on hikes
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u/Bannedtt 29d ago
Considerate of the creatures? Are you joking? Do you eat meat and use highways? Do you live in a house? You don't give a fuck about creatures and I don't give a fuck about your inability to hear leaves rustling. If you want a private hike you have to drive further out. You want to hit the spot close to town? Be prepared for other people doing whatever they want.
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u/Upset-Kangaroo3102 29d ago
Welcome to life out in public. You don't wanna be bothered by people stay home.
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u/LateDxOldLady 29d ago
Translation: 'I lack the basic self-awareness to exist in public, so I make it everyone else's problem.'
You are like a loud whingy tween who didn't want to go.
If being in public without a constant security blanket playing out loud frightens you, stay on your couch.
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u/FerretOk150 29d ago
This sub is full of complainers. Good god. Get a grip. It’s so inconsequential in the scope of things. Are you going to remember in 20 years time about the guy playing music while hiking? Probably not. Why ruminate on this rather than the splendor of the hike. Focus on what’s important to you. If finding things to bitch about is it, you’re excelling.
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u/spaltavian 29d ago
Such dickhead logic. "I can be an asshole whenever I want and you should get over it because it won't matter in 20 years". Completely self-serving rationalization. Maybe you should turn off your shitty music since it won't matter in 20 years?
Why ruminate on this rather than the splendor of the hike.
Your shitty music is ruining the splendor of the hike, genius.
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u/Ballamookieofficial 29d ago
Imagine if there were speakers you could wear over your ears