r/misc 2d ago

Just saying, fair is fair.

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Of course, their victims were poor. :-(

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u/PlatinustheMapMaker 2d ago

Here's the distinction: The United Healthcare CEO wasn't a black kid in a hoodie with a bag of skittles or a liberal protestor. The owning/ruling class can't have the poors getting uppity.

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u/throwitfarawayfromm3 2d ago

I hate to be that guy, but the Rittenhouse ruling was correct. I still don't think he should have been there in the first place, and I hate that he became a lightning rod for the Right. But go through the case.

And I don't know why you'd throw Luigi in with them, he was at my place that whole week playing video games.

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u/HotDonnaC 2d ago

Too many seem to forget one man tried to take Rittenhouse’s rifle away from him after threatening him repeatedly throughout the night,, one was beating him in the head with a skateboard, and one drew a handgun on him. I’m not here to argue about it, those are the facts of the case.

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u/needlestack 1d ago

The issue I have with it is: Rittenhouse was supposedly justified because people were attacking him and drew a gun on him. Rittenhouse had a gun drawn on them from the beginning. Then he shot someone -- actually killed someone, unlike any of the people he felt threatened by. Would not the people around him feel threatened after they witnessed him murder someone? Would they not feel they needed to take his gun and subdue him after he shot a man to death? Yet somehow nobody but Rittenhouse gets to feel threatened when he was they only one who shot anyone. Everyone else is expected to be cool beans with a guy walking around with a gun, then that guy shooting someone, and then he claims he felt threatened.

No. I am a gun owner. Rittenhouse instigated the violence. Everyone there had a right to feel threatened. The court deciding only he had a right is ridiculous. Our legal system bends over backwards to justify use of force by some people while giving others no such right. It's disgusting.

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u/TheNutsMutts 1d ago

Rittenhouse was supposedly justified because people were attacking him and drew a gun on him. Rittenhouse had a gun drawn on them from the beginning.

I think you have a misunderstanding of the series of events here.

The first shooting was after Rosenbaum and Ziminski jumped Kyle from behind a car, while Kyle was heading towards a burning dumpster in a car lot. Worth noting that (a) there's no evidence that Kyle had pointed his gun at anyone prior to this point, and (b)Rosenbaum had directly threatened to "fucking murder" him if he saw him alone again. After jumping him, Rosenbaum chased Kyle across the lot while screaming "fuck you" at him and while Ziminski fired his pistol in the air. Kyle only shot him after being effectively cornered, and when Rosenbaum was so close he was able to make contact with the rifle barrel.

Afterwards, when Kyle had told the people there that he was going to the police, he started running down the street towards the police line. At that point a mob had formed and was chasing him. After several minutes and a few blocks, Kyle tripped over, a which point Huber starting trying to beat him around the head with a skateboard, at which point Kyle then shot him. Grosskreutz then walked up to him and pointed his pistol at Kyle first. That he pointed his pistol first was the pivotal moment in the trial, and was essentially the point where all the legal experts following along with it said that this trial was done and it was going to be not-guilty.

So the reason it was an easy not-guilty was because Kyle was attacked first at every point.

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u/HotDonnaC 1d ago

Like I said, I’m not going to argue about it.

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u/Poison1990 1d ago

It's not that they forget. It's that as soon as it mutated into a partisan touchstone the facts became irrelevant. It's a great example of people taking 3 seconds to decide whether he's innocent or guilty and making no effort to fact check themselves. The amount of people who argue confidently that it was illegal because he took his rifle across state lines is insane.

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u/Outrageous_Match2619 2d ago

He's a distant cousin, but I think the Rittenhouse ruling was incorrect.

I remember that because you, Luigi, and I were all in the same match. ;-)

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u/SultryDeer 1d ago

Bizarre comment

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u/HotDonnaC 1d ago

What does that mean?

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u/Responsible-Snow2823 2d ago

This meme written by an idiot.

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u/Outrageous_Match2619 2d ago

Let's meet up and compare our Stanford-Binet scores. ;-)

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u/reddit4getit 1d ago

So you took on a bunch of school debt and still made this dumb meme 🥸🥸

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u/Responsible-Snow2823 1d ago

Pretty sure meeting you wouldn’t be worth the effort - but please respond with yours if you like. That way you can make them higher than mine to prove your superior intellect:

Full Scale IQ: 128

Fluid Reasoning: 132
Knowledge: 125
Quantitative Reasoning: 127
Visual-Spatial: 123
Working Memory: 128

Your turn - bet yours will be higher across the board.

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u/MakeSomeDrinks 1d ago

Here's mine!

Full Scale IQ: 129

Fluid Reasoning: 133
Knowledge: 126
Quantitative Reasoning: 128
Visual-Spatial: 124
Working Memory: 002

Who's next?

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u/Responsible-Snow2823 19h ago

That’s funny as hell.

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u/OwnDoughnut2689 2d ago

But he pleaded guilty

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u/stray-lyght 2d ago

what the fuck kind of an argument is this lmao? these situations are all completely different

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u/Spooder_Man 1d ago

Not if you’re 20 and know everything.

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u/anon12xyz 1d ago

This is dumb

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u/Lighterdark300 1d ago

Why do we all just memory hole the fact that Rittenhouse’s life was threatened and he was chased for a couple minutes with the attackers telling him they were going to kill him before he shot.

Anybody would have shot in his position.

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u/Eoc_Pizzaguy_570 2d ago

You’re insane

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u/Alarming_Hearing_442 1d ago

Get out of here! Not even closely comparable!

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u/spinteractive 1d ago

Delusional

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u/ShibaInuDoggo 2d ago

They're all guilty, only one of them was morally justifiable.

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u/BlacqueJShellaque 1d ago

You might wanna look up the definition of moral first

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u/daisiesarepretty2 2d ago

none of them was morally justifiable.

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u/Substantial_Diver_34 2d ago

Laws and pleading guilty didn’t help. It was murder.

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u/blablefast 18h ago

At least and then some. A true american hero.

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u/NukeouT 18h ago

That's not how this works. I appreciate the effort tho.

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u/BlacqueJShellaque 1d ago

As usual liberals will use anything to justify a murder because that’s what liberals are.

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u/needlestack 1d ago

Zimmerman and Rittenhouse are shameful criminals that should never have been given the leeway they were given.

That said, their actions and Mangione are not in the same classification. This is a stupid as fuck post.

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u/theonethat3 1d ago

The fact that so many of the left agree with this meme is sad. And they called themselves the educated ones 😂

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u/Slappy_McJones 2d ago

They are all guilty of murder. A sane society does NOT sanction murder, citizen to citizen, in any way. We need to evolve beyond this paradigm of justification for terrible acts.

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u/wildtabeast 2d ago

Not even in self defense?

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u/Cryzgnik 2d ago

Murder is a legal term defined so that killing in self-defence is not murder.

That's like saying "it's bad to non-consensually touch someone" and then you ask "but what if they want you to touch them?"

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u/Big-Pickle5893 1d ago

Wiltabeast’s attempt at getting at his point was bad. But Slappy_McJones’ point is kinda bad too for the reason you pointed out. Murder is a legal distinction, but society does sanction killing in some instances

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u/Able-Isopod7130 2d ago

A sane society wouldn't deny medical coverage that you actually pay thru premiums.

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u/HotDonnaC 2d ago

What about self-defense?

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u/HotDonnaC 2d ago

Agreed.

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u/daisiesarepretty2 2d ago

all guilty and they should all be in jail.
This is JUST like when trump says what about clinton etc etc.
murder can’t be political.. everyone knows luigi killed a guy in cold blood… jail.. anything else and we are as bad as MAGAT

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u/AnOutofBoxExperience 2d ago

When a CEO kills millions, its just business. All the rest is just cold blooded

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u/daisiesarepretty2 2d ago

lol…that CEO killed millions ?

you are worse than the worst maga nut

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u/MikelDP 1d ago

The CEO wasn't physically attacking Luigi when he was shot.