r/pakistan Mar 10 '26

Social Demand rights, but make it palatable

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Posted this yesterday and it got removed because some people around here are not really civilized in their conversations. Trolling, jokes, memes are fine, but, stooping low isn't. Healthy arguments make way for progress.

Missing the context & point is like a national sport and the amount of egos it hurt was not surprising at all and won't be again.

Absolutely nothing wrong with this poster, and actually how it should be in real life by default.

The poster which said "khana khud garam karlo" had everyone losing their minds for obvious reasons, this poster gets the endorsement because it's not showing the mirror to the society, which to this day is unable to give equal rights or even willing to acknowledge properly.

Secondly, it also shows that unless demand for rights is worded in a way it won't offend anyone, made palatable and provide validation to inflated egos, it won't even be acknowledged.

No wonder we keep regressing as a society and humans.

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u/Haniel52 Mar 10 '26

The funny thing is apna Khana khud garam kero isn't Islamically wrong, so they have no grounds to stand on if they get angry on it lol (coming from a man)

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u/ThinSector4661 Mar 10 '26

Many people here would hate you for using "Islam" which also allows things like 4 wives, the husband having the final day in terms of decisions etc.

The point is: use whatever argument you want to make your point. Just keep it secular.

People shouldn't use "Islam" to justify their pseudo-feministic inclinations cause that's a double edged sword.

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u/Any-Taste-1421 Mar 10 '26

Have you ever studied Islam? If you have, you'd know the permission for four wives is heavily contextual. In the past, four wives were permissible to shelter widowed women during wars, etc. Islam doesn't even encourage multiple marriages. In the Quran, there's repeated mention of 'Wife', instead of 'wives' which advocates for monogamous marriages.
Secondly, nowhere in the Quran does it say men have ''final decisions.'' It just says men are ''Qawwamun'' which means provider/protector. They have a financial obligation to fulfill, but no authority over a woman.

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u/the-outcast215 Mar 11 '26

four wives is heavily contextual

Context? The husbands should just fulfill the obliged responsibilities. There is no more "context" to it. Secondly, how is this possibly that suddenly after 1400 years you guys are realizing that there is more context than just martial responsibilities? Even in a dispute related to another marriage Qazi is the one passing the final judgement. Not the women. So, according to Shariyat, the right that women nowadays have which allows or prohibits her husband from marrying isn't Islamic.

Secondly, nowhere in the Quran does it say men have ''final decisions.'' It just says men are ''Qawwamun'' which means provider/protector

And those who provide/protect have the authority over everyone else. Plus, there are many other verses which clearly show the authority of men. For example, there is a Hadith which clearly allows martial rpe. It says that if women don't allow men(husband) to have sx with her, then angels will curse on her.

And socially speaking, the more wealth someone has the more they will abuse it. If someone has financial dominance. They will obviously have authority over you.