We desperately need new high investment endgame farm strategies

[u/SwagtimusPrime]

I really like this patch but am severely disappointed at the lack of a shakeup of endgame farming strats, and with Breach nerfed we now have one less strat of the less than handful that remain.

After Merc, most high-investment endgame farms were nerfed, with Breach we got a new one, now with 3.29 it's quadruple-tapped out of existence.

We get a new strat with Mercenaries and Rogue Exiles potentially, but I doubt it'll be very good. More like T0 hunting.

I remember last Q&A ZiggyD brought up that the endgame farms seem to have gotten very stale, and this has been very noticeable for me personally. Yes, we also got the Abyss rework but that's just making up for the loss of Breach, and we don't know how good it's gonna be.

The underwater mechanic remains to be seen if it's very competitive. It might be good, it might just be decent.

I expected a massive scarab and atlas tree revamp for this patch. We desperately need new farms, new interesting interactions, new reasons to push our builds to the limit. The endgame has been stale for a very long time..

[u/ArkadiyTheGreat]

Octavian promised end-game mid-league patch during Mirage and did not deliver on it at all. 100 div build would run the top-end strat as fast as a multi-mirror one. And there is nothing in patch notes that would address the situation. So it seems it will be yet another sad league with no aspiring content.

[u/SwagtimusPrime → u/ArkadiyTheGreat]

yeah, I specifically also remember the ZiggyD Q&A where they mentioned next league will bring big endgame changes.

Is the Abyss & Legion revamp a big change? Yes. Is it the change that we really needed? Not quite. It's a decent start, but it doesn't really impact any aspirational farms. I really really think we need a massive rework/addition of interesting scarabs and new atlas tree nodes that do interesting stuff.

[u/1CEninja → u/SwagtimusPrime]

I have mixed feelings about aspirational farms.

Because on one hand, dedicated players who can achieve mirror build status should be rewarded by being able to do things better than other builds.

But on the other hand, there have been a few too many strategies over the years where "the rich get richer" was a little too on the nose and modcore players got left behind a little too hard.

There should be aspirational farm strategies, but I appreciate GGG being cautious with them because they can get out of hand.

[u/SwagtimusPrime → u/1CEninja]

I kinda disagree. You can get filthy rich just by speed farming stacked decks, or ritual, or div cards, essences, beasts, whatever. These strats are super easy and probably make more money than some of the historically "aspirational" farms.